Ever feel bummed as though you're almost FORCED to throw in the towel?

What the heck is that kind of a post sitetalkscam?

Yes, I feel frustrated. If anyone says they don't feel that at some point in an entrepreneurial career, they're lying.

Genycis, what you're feeling is normal.

What you do about it is what will separate you from those who fail.

When I first started, I was overwhelmed because I took on way too many things. I narrowed it down and concentrated on one aspect of the biz at a time.

You might have to go back to the 9-5 and think about that. That should be a great motivator to make something work. You said yourself that the $14 an hour won't cut it.

I remember when my kid was 2. Wow was that hard. I couldn't get anything done. I waited for nap time and worked like crazy. The key to only having a few hours during the day to work is being organized.

Every night before I go to bed, I write a list of 5 things I will accomplish the next day. There's nothing like that feeling of being able to cross them off.

If you need to write down a specific schedule, do it. Hour by hour.

When a kid comes into your life, as I am sure you know, life changes. Completely changes.

Have you set goals? What are your short term and long term goals? And it's not good enough just to write down goals, you have to finish it by making a plan to achieve the goals. A blueprint of your own. To success.

Most people start small.

Figure out what made those CB sales and the hip hop sales and capitalize on that.

Reinvesting money back into the business is a common practice for start-ups. Maybe you can try to find another method (other than the banner ads) to increase revenue.

Yes, think about answering to some yahoo and growing his business 9-5 instead of yours. That would be one of my greatest motivators.

Yes. Write down a schedule. I know you're going to be dog tired by the time the kid goes down to bed, but that's the time you need to work for a few hours. You gotta put the time in now. Put that kid in bed early, roll your sleeves up and get productive.

What are you good at? Writing? Mixing music? Even if it's not something you enjoy but you're good at, outsource yourself to make some extra money.

We all have the feelings of despair. Failure. Fear.

You can conquer those feelings.

Get that "can do" attitude and make a plan. If you give it your all and you don't succeed, at least you can be satisfied knowing that you gave it everything you had.

I wish you the best.

Genycis,
Have you thought about ghostwriting to hold you over until the tide turns in your favor? I know you said time's limited, but you could post an offer in the for hire section and get some work pretty quickly. You could scale it to the time you have by only accepting as much work as you can handle.

Above all else, don't give up.

Wish you the best.

you'll feel like that no matter what you do, and I can assure you this you will never succeed in anything if you quit.

I can relate a bit.

I had my first sale a few weeks ago and today, over 2 weeks later, see that it resulted in a refund. Granted I've made more sales since then, but it still stinks.

Do things like that bring you down a little? Hell yes. Is it going to cause me to close up shop? Hell no.

If you research successful people, the mantra you will find common among a lot of them is this: "I became successful because I felt I had no other choice." Meaning, if you feel in your heart that your life is supposed to be a certain way, then that is where you find your drive.

One person in particular comes to mind, Robert Herjavec. I remember hearing or reading somewhere that he said, "For my own mental well being, I simply had to become successful." The most powerful moves can be made when your ships are burnt behind you. Or at least when you feel that they are. That you lack any other choice but to succeed.

The problem for a lot of people is they get comfortable, they don't have powerful emotions driving their need to succeed. So they quit and go back to whatever it was they were doing. This is why you hear so many stories of success that all start with the main character reaching rock-bottom. At that point in the main character's life, they finally have something happen to them that basically forces them to push up and beyond themselves to get to where they want to be. They have strong emotional force that pushes them. Such a mindset removes all obstacles.

Someone had posted a motivational video on here a while back that had a story in it. The summary is that a man wanted to be successful and begged this very successful businessman to teach him so that he could emulate the teacher's success. So, the man told the wannabe to meet him at the beach. Once at the beach, the successful man walked out into the water, up to his shoulders and told the wannabe to follow him. The guy thought he was crazy, but followed anyway. Once out there, the guru pushed the guy under the water and held him there... to the point he was about to start drowning. Then, he let him up for air and said, "When you want success as bad as you wanted air while you were under the water, then you will be successful."

I guess what helps is to find your true drive, the real reason why you want to be successful. Use that emotion and you won't have many days like this, because obstacles mean nothing to you if your drive is strong enough. GL.

In my opinion, if you have NOT ever felt this way then you aren't trying hard enough. I believe we all go through these ups and downs but it's how we deal with them that really counts. Just keep on soldiering on through and remember the reason you are in this business -- the type of lifestyle you are trying to create for yourself.

Whenever I have a down day I always just think back to how I felt when my alarm went off at 5:15am every morning for work. It pretty quickly puts things back into perspective for me.

I was running a consulting business when the boy was 2.

Whever I got call, I had to RUN to the garage and lay down on the floor boards in the car so I could get those precious few minutes that would result in hundreds of dollars in sales.

I'll NEVER forget laying on the floor board in the car in the garage and hearing the kid come into the garage yelling "MA MAY!"

Now mind you before you parents read me the riot act, I am a good mom. It takes one helluva juggling act to be a stay at home parent and an entreprenuer.

One of the things I am most proud of - I RAISED MY KID. Not a friggin daycare. I didn't have some daycare attendant telling me that my kid did this or that for the first time because he was NOT in day care.

I was the one who watched him take his first steps, his first words, ... Yes, there were times throughout a day that I was not right there with him. Show me a daycare where the minimum hourly wage workers cared more than me and I'll shut up.

I DID take the few minutes it took to talk to a potential client. And I did tell them was a stay at home/work from home mom (especially when it couldn't be helped).

You would be surprised at the number of my clients who competely understood.

Heck yes, you are NOT in the quitters category. GIVE IT YOUR ALL. Sorry to shout but I have regrets and had I the opportunity do it again, I would eliminate some of the regrets. If I gave it my "all," I can live with that.

Glad to hear you're not suicidal but a typical response from someone who wants their signature in a high PR forum.

Please make sure you give this the necessary consideration. When it's a wash, why the heck would you go "to work?" I know you'll weigh the day care costs versus you staying home and eventually kicking butt.


There will always be blessings in disguise. I'm close to 50 years old and it took close to 20 years to realize that there are blessings in disguise. : ) It's the difference between knowing it's a blessing in disguse than a profit sucking machine where we determine what's in our best interest.




I cried like a baby when the naps ended. I'm not kidding. I cried like a baby. But I persevered. I KNEW I was destined for something better than the 9-5 grind helping someone else make a gosh damn fortune from ME!

Damn straight. I AM the yahoo! I made money for lawyers for over a decade. I billed my time at a measly hourly wage and they took advantage of it and billed it 10x what I made.

I think that's about the time I thought "Oh no you din't." And from that I grew a business that utilized the skills I learned working for lawyers.

Yang in there guy. Don't ever doubt your ability. YOU can do this! Tell yourself that every day, every minute of the day. You do NOT want to work for some yahoo! -- You want to be the yahoo! And you will be.

Ok. Sorry. Long winded. Reminds me of a quote from Will Smith. He always thought he would be rich. He never doubted it.

By God that means you can too! Don't ever doubt it!

Thanks Mark for that illustrative story, I appreciate it and the moral behind it! Guess after all the swearing, you reached that goal you had set out to get. Lol! Glad that worked out for you!


@ CajunCopy, thanks for the heads up. I have been given some compliments on my writing with the Fiverr gigs I've sorta been dabbling in a bit, so perhaps this may be something I can consider looking into once I outline a schedule of sorts for myself. Thanks for your help and uplifting as well. Not wanting to give up... maybe I won't have to.


@ Nicholasb, Thanks... trust me, I don't want to quit at all and not leaning to that as an option, but bills and child are first priority as well so if push comes to shove... though hoping no pushing and shoving come about. Lol!


@ Premier Plugins, bummer on the refund... yeah, that will always bring a bit of frustration out for sure, but as you did and I can relate, I won't let a refund or two shut me down. Lol! I'm not wanting to shut down at all for that matter.

What you said was also very deep and the scenario you told me about regarding the drowning man is beyond symbolic. Trying and trying harder more so now to keep my head ABOVE water and not below it. Thanks for the info and uplifting as well, I appreciate that!


@ Ben, Thank you for that... and trust me, I am always thanking God every moment I get for everything including and especially what you said.

That by itself has been what's kept me going so far... the accomplishments I've achieved in terms of researching and teaching myself some of the things I've learned about marketing in general that's helped me turn two sales a year into several a month at least.

I tell myself and try to remind myself when I'm feeling frustrated things like that, that I actually did make at least something on Clickbank, that I did at least manage to make some money every month from Adsense, even if it averages to about $50 or so a month, that I've managed to make two merchant sites and sell occasionally from each of them, that I've managed to write two ebooks and sell a few of them throughout the lifetimes of each of the sites, etc.

Thank you Ben for that reminder again, and yes indeed, I am very grateful for the invaluable things I've learned and am still trying to learn more of now as well.

Thanks a lot again Ben for your reply. It really is a solid reminder, and trust, I don't want to give up either and hopefully won't have to.

I've always found this video to be very inspirational on so many levels.


Never give up on your dreams Genycis.

You are closer to success than you think.... keep plugin away at what works for you.

Dave

I blame the Panda.

That is certainly one thing I love about the Warrior Forum, there are definitely some very giving individuals who pride themselves on helping others. Threads like this are pure proof. Happy to be among all of you, as well.

Best of luck Genycis

Every time I feel like my marketing is plummeting I just release some stress at the nearest strip club, usually this helps and I will be back on top in no time. I may be there more often if Big G keeps slapping my affiliate sites.

Im glad you posted it cause im ready to quit cause i think im just overwhelmed and don't know where to start.....I had some success but lately that has been far and few between....so your are farther then i am. I had a really turbulent past with lockup and everything because of my career as a drunk. But im sticking to it because one of my keywords jumped 28 spots in google....I would love a sale but right now rankings are great too....but keep it up im sure you will be successful.

I've been there often enough too. I have three kids, with the youngest 3 years old, and it's not easy at all. She doesn't nap anymore, and because the older kids are at school, I'm her only entertainment during the day. It's rough getting enough work time.

One thing I do is try to declare one day each weekend my day to work. The other is for family time. When I do this, my husband handles the kids so that I can get as many hours as possible in on that day. It doesn't work out every weekend, but it's sure wonderful when it does.

It can take a long time to reach your goals. There's nothing wrong with that. It's utterly frustrating and exhausting, but normal. I've been at this for years, but I'm finally at the point where I have a good shot at outearning my husband this year. It's not a guarantee certainly, as I've had plenty of financial ups and downs doing this stuff, but things are looking promising.

Success can happen, but if you give up, that's not where it will happen for you. Keep working at it, even if you have to go back to work. With enough persistence and maybe a little luck, you'll find something that allows you to make the money you're after.

Only if you can handle frustration can you hack it in this game. On Monday I had my worst AdSense day for a couple of years.

On Tuesday I worked on and released my new membership site.

On top of persistence you need a niche you are 110% passionate about.

How do I get through it?

-Remember past successes
-Remember why Im doing IM
-Remember the potential that IM has

Few days ago I had one the strangest and unluckiest days I remember. Without going
into details I'll just say that nothing seemed to work. Some things happened that have
never happened before, and that I thought were impossible to happen. On every step
I made there was an unforeseen problem.

It was incredibly easy to fall into trap and give up, cry, despair, curse the destiny and whatnot.

Did I do or feel like doing any of those things during that strange day?

Not For A Single Second.

I have trained myself to accept such things as minor obstacles, as pebbles on the
road if you will, and I don't allow them to stray me from my road. When problem occurs
I consider them a normal thing in life and immediately look for solution. To get to that
point wasn't easy, it wasn't fast, but I feel I'm at the stage where no thing in the world
could make me quit.

I've been through plenty of similar situations and I've learnt to just keep going even if it means hanging in there by your finger nails. I hope things improve for you soon, but if they don't remember that the experience will make you stronger when you do finally come through it

@ Exel, wow... sorry to hear you had such an off the wall day... hopefully those don't come for you too often at all and that you've made it through that particular one with flying colors as well. I completely understand that obstacles will indeed come, and I've tried my best in tackling them on as well when they do. Guess I had a moment of intense frustration this time around. lol.

@ Paid Surveys, I'm hanging on by my pinky fingers' nails at this time. Lol! I'm sure and have faith and confidence that things will get better... just overwhelming at times when you want to get things done but almost feel like all the odds are stacked against you to do so. When all else seems dismal, I always have my faith in God to lead me through, even if I'm overwhelmed within my own feelings. Thank you for your uplifting words as well... and yes, I am definitely going to learn a lot from my experiences and pursuits, whether I succeed or not (though succeeding is my only desired option Lol)

@ Stephfoster, I completely understand where you're coming from, and I think that's part of what I feel. Granted, I don't expect to make 10k by the end of this month (though the thoughts would be nice and very helpful for finances and bills), but that feeling of trying to get things done and almost feeling like time ran out before you even began is what floored me even further. The thought "how can I succeed if I can barely find the time to get things done or take action?" is what came about, and that's where I got frustrated. Having a child and trying to do IM related stuff is definitely intense, so I can imagine 3 kids as well. I applaud you for your constant strive even with 3 kids. I can imagine the juggling act you have to do, but you do it, and I admire and respect that. I'll definitely continue trying to push ahead.

@ Justin, thanks for the bullet points... they will definitely help keep me focused.

@ brettb, wow.. sorry to hear about the worst adsense day ever. I can't say my adsense is high at all, but even with the $2.00 - $5.00 range I average a day, I understand what you mean when I see those $0.09 days that come out of nowhere. Hoping and dreaming of a day where I can make other websites that will help with making my Adsense look like $2.00 - $5.00 an hour instead of a day. Lol! Hope things have gotten better again since that downward day you had.

@ Spider222, I need to look into that book and finding the time to read it. I've heard a few people say that it's helped them a lot in terms of getting their thoughts together and having a positive attitude that has taken them to great success. I like to think of myself as a positive person as my faith keeps me geared there, but we're all normal and have our days. But I may need to look into that book for added uplifting as well.

I thank you for your compliments and uplifting and suggestions as well. I'm trying my best with the ideas that come to mind, and I guess I just need to see the monetary aspect of things pick up a bit more to give me that added boost.

I am very grateful though indeed nonetheless, as I feel I was beyond Blessed to take my musical talent and make a website out of it geared to rappers and singers needing instrumentals to make some money from it and build relationships from, and the ability to make a "spinoff" site from that and to focus the other site towards those that make instrumentals as well, which has been a surprise and blessing as well.

Now if I can manage to venture into some other sites that will build me some great passive income while I focus on my two main sites, that would be great! Lol! I do need to do more visualizing as you suggested.


Again, thank you all for the uplifting and compliments and help and suggestions! I know it's a bump in the road as there will be others as well, but with a great forum like this full of helpful warriors, and keeping my faith strong and pushing forward, I can succeed.. may take more time than I'd prefer, but I am confident that I can do it... I just need to find the time to make it happen. Guess God heard me too last night as I wound up with three sales in my inbox this morning, a $15 sale, an $18 sale, and a $6 sale. Now if I can make May reflect what April looked like or better, that'll be a nice confidence boost as well! lol

Thanks again to you all!! I more than appreciate it!

Genycis, you have every reason to throw in the towel. You could convince most people that was the smart, sensible route.

But, every reason can be turned upside down, and be made as incentive to succeed. "That which does not kill you, makes you stronger." When you establish your incredible success story, you will be a magnet that people will want to learn from.

There are tons of stories out there about people who never should have kept on keeping on. They needed to get sensible and work their day job until... But they had a dream and they succeeded wildly, because they would not quit!

@ David, thanks for the pep talk. I'm definitely NOT trying to convince anyone that it is the smart sensible route though as I don't actually want to give up either. LOL! You're right though with the quote, and I've tried to take every negative experience or moment and let it build me stronger. I'll keep pushing forward.

@ Kevin, Thank you for your reply as well, and no problem on the long reply, sometimes I get into a mindset and start typing away myself.

Sorry to hear of your rough hits as well this past March. Hoping that everything has gotten a lot better since then and that it continues to push forward as well.

I completely feel where you're coming from regarding being spiritual as well, and some of the rougher moments of my business pursuits, or just life in general, have ben overcome because of my faith in God, so I feel where you're coming from.

I'm always in prayer, not just for myself or my business pursuits, but just in general. I'm not religious in a manner of speaking, but I have been very spiritual especially since I dodged a hefty bullet back in 1995 from a friend's car accident to which I could've been killed if I had jumped to the front seat as I had wanted to. God spared me a MAJOR bullet with that one, and that day has strengthened my faith in God 10x over.. I already had faith, but something like that will definitely bring you close... it's what I can honestly consider in my life to be the equal of "being saved".

Nice way of putting success... I guess it is a journey indeed. I like the farmer analogy as well, definitely true when you put it into context with business.

I can also see your point regarding most successes being the rags to riches story. I think that's not uncommon because those that either were in 'rags' to begin with, or lost things and landed in 'rags', learned the struggles of being at or near rock bottom, and having those rough moments mold them into appreciating things much more and striving more as well. Whereas (majority of) the trust fund babies who always had mom and dad do everything for them and pay for everything tend to go the opposite route, party, splurge, buy fancy things, and lose all of their money at a younger age, not know what to do with themselves, and take drastic downfalls as a result.

I may have to check out that movie "Badass". My favorite failure to success story so far of those I have seen still has to be "The Pursuit of Happyness". I'm a father of a 2 year old, and I cannot even begin to imagine some of the things he went through taking care of his child while trying to get to where he needed to not for himself, but for his son. Man he had a MAJOR rough patch, but it made him stronger and appreciate everything he gained and earned for his hard work, determination, and accomplishments. I'm still floored each and every time I watch that movie.

Ahhhh, the Big G. Yeah, I never try to rely on all of my eggs in that basket... mainly in part for two reasons: 1) Doing so can crush your dreams if you rely only on them and they get Slap happy and deindex your sites completely, shut down your Adwords (as I managed to get mine), and just overall shut you out. Or 2) The day that the Big G collapses (not sure it'll ever happen but hey, Germany DID topple over too even though they thought they wouldn't back in WW2.) which will basically impact tremendously as well.

I try to rely on Bing PPC, Banner Ads from other sites like BuySellAds, forum marketing, email marketing above all of them, Twitter, Facebook, SEO (though for my niches, it's not the easiest option as there aren't many keyword options... you either go with the major ones that everyone's used, or the minor ones or long tails which you'd be lucky if they even had 100 keyword hits a month) and several other angles. Not easy and that's why the work can be a bit overwhelming at times with so many angles to tackle or try to put work into, whether outsourcing or not. But it'll be worth it if when Pandas and Penguins and Polar Bears (that'll be their next update. LOL) run loose and try to stomp down all of your hard work if you relied on Google's ZOO before their Animal Kingdom wreaks havoc.

Thanks for all of your suggestions and insight though, as I do very much appreciate it. The prayers will get me through along with my undying and everlasting faith in God, even if at times I feel like I'm near forced to throw in the towel. I'll also try to envision the dream to reality a bit more... closing my eyes and imagining seeing my Adsense account at $657.14 or more a month, seeing my Clickbank account with $140.67 or more every week, and ultimately, seeing more sales to where I make $100 or more a day on my instrumentals, another $100 or more a day on my soundkits, another $100 a day from each of my eBooks, and so forth.

Thanks again for all of the kind words, motivations, upliftings, and suggestions and help! It is beyond appreciated and I'm glad that I'm here at the forum... to think, I heard at another membership forum (I won't mention the name) that people gave WF a bad rap, saying that everyone here were nothing but scams and cheats and so forth. I only wish I had joined here sooner instead of paying 3 months of membership for stuff I already knew, and waiting and waiting for stuff that was supposed to be released (the reason I had remained).

Thanks again!! Hope this post motivates anyone else that may be on the brink of feeling like they want to quit or forced to. Don't! Thanks again!

In October 2010, my kidneys failed and I went on dialysis. I felt like crap, washed out and used up. Everyone around my at the dialysis center looked washed out and used up. Would have been easy to give up and figure I'm disabled, and that's that...

So I bought a used laptop, and every day, while watching my blood run into a machine, I worked on articles, blog posts, pr submissions, wrote a book for Kindle and Amazon, and build Wordpress sites to support my main site, which had gone dead with the increased grips of the recession.

Last summer my kidneys recovered and I went off dialysis, subsequently lost 60 pounds and completely changed my health habits.

My main commerce site is coming back, and Kindle/Amazon sales are increasing monthly.

I credit internet marketing with keeping me engaged and alive, and spent more than a few sessions browsing the Warrior Forum for inspiration.

Regardless of the obstacles, and how you feel, keep working, and it will get better.

Yep been there myself. Never bet your rent money on IM. Keep that regular job and pay the bills. Only spend money you can online to build a business.

I know I have learned the hard way, spent money I should have not for 4 years.

Lost thousands of dollars and only recently in last 2-3 months started making consistent money online.

Hang in there bro

Dear Genycis,

Everyone here have done a great work lifting up your spirit.

I dont have much to say because everyone have spoken what I might have told you, but let me remind you again if you have forgotten.

Quitters are not Winners and Winners are not Quitters as well. If you quit here, it is very likely that you are going to quit in other fields you may venture into in the nearest future.

So, do not think of quitting at all because the moment the thought comes to the scene, your entire attitude towards success will definitely change!

Wishing you all the best Genycis.

And thanks to all who God have used to lift up your spirit. The good Lord will keep you all from failure and mishap.. Amen.

Kennedy.

stay focused on one path...it is like school, jjust keep at it till you master one aspect and succeed, then expand