Hub Pages....And Why I Think There Are Better Options

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Let me start out by saying that what follows is my personal opinion of Hub
Pages from 3 months of using them. I think that's long enough to get a feel
for how effective they can or can't be in comparison to other platforms.

For starters, the rating system is a joke. For example, I went to one hub
page that had hardly any content on it at all that was rated a 62. Granted,
a 62 is nothing to write home about.

But then I went to another page that had the most comprehensive article
on the subject you'd want to read.

It too was rated a 62.

While I can't prove this, my gut tells me that the ratings are similar to
Squidoo lenses. It's not so much the content but how much traffic you
generate.

Which leads me to why I feel there is a better way.

As you may or may not know, Hub Pages is VERY strict with links to
outside pages. Don't even think of sending people to a commercial page
in the attempt to make a sale. They'll yank your page in a heartbeat and
may even close your account.

In a word, they're strict.

So, since you ultimately have to get traffic to your hub page in order to
get it ranked higher, why bother sending people to say, a review of a
product at Hub Pages when you can easily just direct traffic to another
medium where you don't have to worry about what links you have or don't
have on the page?

Yes, I have found that in the SERPs, hub pages DO rank higher than other
sites. But I feel the benefits of this are killed by the restrictions that hub
pages puts on your content.

In short, my hub pages aren't ranked any higher in my chosen niches than
my Wordpress blogs, Blogger blogs or Squidoo lenses...all of which allow me
to actively promote my chosen product. So why use them?

I am curious as to how others feel about Hub Pages.

Am I missing something? It's been 3 months and I have received absolutely
no benefit from them that I can see.

Of course maybe I've been too strict with my own self censoring of my
content there simply because of the horror stories I've heard of hubs
being trashed because of any kind of promotion.

Is it true? Is it made up?

If it is true, again, what's the point?

I'm a pretty bright guy but I just don't see the benefit of putting your
content on a medium where essentially the only thing you can do is have
your name.

I'm open to other opinions, ideas, ways to make hub pages profitable, etc.

So far...I just don't see the point.
#hub #options #pagesand
  • Profile picture of the author gpower2
    I would have to completely concur with you on this one Steven.

    Back in the day Hub Pages was quite similar to Squidoo regarding what was allowed with linking. They are WAY too restrictive now. In fact, I've had several Hubs that were ranking fine for over a year, linking to websites that I owned (mind you the links were fine before.) When I tried to add more content and refresh the HUB's, I was not allowed to put in ANY links at all (within the content.) Seeing this I tried to add links via their link add-ons and still I was not allowed to put them in there.

    I actually deleted a few hubs completely and started from scratch to try and figure out a way around it. With all the work that goes into internet marketing I have found Hub Pages to be too much a pain in the rear to bother with anymore.

    I used to get decent traffic from my Hubs but this too has seemed to dry up.

    Bottom line - Not worth it for me anymore. I haven't published or updated any of my Hubs in months.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by gpower2 View Post

      I would have to completely concur with you on this one Steven.

      Back in the day Hub Pages was quite similar to Squidoo regarding what was allowed with linking. They are WAY too restrictive now. In fact, I've had several Hubs that were ranking fine for over a year, linking to websites that I owned (mind you the links were fine before.) When I tried to add more content and refresh the HUB's, I was not allowed to put in ANY links at all (within the content.) Seeing this I tried to add links via their link add-ons and still I was not allowed to put them in there.

      I actually deleted a few hubs completely and started from scratch to try and figure out a way around it. With all the work that goes into internet marketing I have found Hub Pages to be too much a pain in the rear to bother with anymore.

      I used to get decent traffic from my Hubs but this too has seemed to dry up.

      Bottom line - Not worth it for me anymore. I haven't published or updated any of my Hubs in months.

      If that's the case, then I have to ask this question from the perspective
      of being a business person.

      As you know, in order to get somebody to buy our product or use our
      service, we need to always keep in mind one important thing..."What's in
      it for the customer?"

      If I were the owner of Hub Pages, I would be asking myself this, "If I am
      putting so many restrictions on people using my service, what's in it for
      them? Why should they use my service? What do they get out of it?"

      If somebody can answer that question, maybe we can get at the bottom
      of why anybody would put content on Hub Pages...if in fact there is any
      reason at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Hetherington
    Steven I think they've gone too far down the "mustn't let our service be abused route" that they've lost site of the customer.
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    • Profile picture of the author kphsax
      I agree completely. I also just realized recently that an RSS Feed from HubPages comprises all of your sites, you can't just isolate one or a few related ones.

      Only positive I can think of is a note I saw earlier today where someone wrote Hubs exclusively, and was making 5k per month with Adsense. Based on my experience, believing that # is a stretch
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    There are people making good money from HubPages ad revenue, but most have been posting hubs multiple times per day for a couple of years now.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    Huh, HubPages.

    Out of 5000+ uniques to one of my blogs this month...

    ONE solitary visitor was referred by my super-keyword-optimized HubPage (which includes a link back to my site)

    ONE!

    Must be because my HubScore is a shabby 66

    AND my blog ranks way higher for my targeted keyphrase than the hub...AND I've done very little backlinking...

    HubPages...I'm not overly impressed.

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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Crim
    Why are you focused on page rank when it comes to hub pages or for any of your site's?

    I find it weird that so many are focused on page rank, are your primary efforts using SEO tactics? My personal view of page rank is that it only matters when you are flipping sites or selling one. Am I wrong? What am I missing here?


    Thanks,

    Terry
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      If I were the owner of Hub Pages, I would be asking myself this, "If I am putting so many restrictions on people using my service, what's in it for them? Why should they use my service? What do they get out of it?"
      Hubpages is something I think of as an "editorial arm" of marketing a site. I do get traffic from hubs but there is a community of users there who don't want hubs used for purely commercial purposes. The more a hub seems to be "selling" something, the lower it will be ranked from what I've seen.

      The first time I asked a question on the hub forum, I was roundly flamed because the question (which was an honest effort to understand) was taken as a criticism of a hub policy. It was funny because the criticism was "once you know how to get more than a rating of 60 for your hubs"... When I replied that the hub in question had a rating of 92, the tone changed considerably on the forum. I thought it was hilarious.

      The ones doing best for me are on topics outside the IM make money or that type of niche. My dog site gets a good amount of traffic just for one or two links on two hubs that have been up for quite some time.

      It's a good link back, takes 15 minutes to get a hub going and sends some traffic to sites "hubbers" find of interest. Not bad for a freebie.

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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Crim
    Ah... After reading through the thread again and paying attention to context I take it that you are talking about some sort of service called hub pages and not actual "hub pages" in the way I know of them.

    Ignore my last post.

    Thanks,

    Terry
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  • Profile picture of the author CameraNews
    Steven makes a good point. We only have so many hours in a day so what is the best use of our time for link building?

    For me posting comments on high PR sites with dofollow links is the best use of my time. Hub pages require writing articles and promoting your site. You need to develop the Hub Page PR which is just another task on your link building to do list.

    Angela Edwards Warrior Offer is the best deal for $5/month for 30 high PR links. She does all the leg work and documents step by step how to build links. She taught me a lot. Plus for the meager $5/month she answers email questions. Can't believe what she provides to this community.

    I now browse using Firefox NoDoFollow add on and use Angela's insights to add to my own list of links. Big thumbs up to Angela.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Another interesting point - if your AuthorScore drops below 75 (easy to happen if you don't log in for a while), your links become nofollow, completely killing any SEO benefit.

    So it's not really set-and-forget, from an SEO standpoint.

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  • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
    Hmmm. Seems like a thumbs down then?

    Thanks for posting Steven, I was going to add this to my armoury. Don't think I'll bother now.

    Cheers.

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  • Profile picture of the author shainemorris
    I understand your sentiments and I felt exactly the same way. I have been building backlinks for my niche blogs and I created hubpages for starters and some squidoo lenses with targeted keywords for each. I have gained enough positive results from working on it. Even if I comment and vote for other hubs. The system is as unpredictable as major SE's algorithms. :p
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