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16 years ago

dude, you could have made this a WSO.

People could pay to you to take out their frustrations on...you. Maybe a "rant-a-day" system where they pay you a dollar a rant.

I could probably spend about $5 a day easy!

Of course quitting smoking is a much better way, and healthier. Need to quit myself, but I only smoke abot a 1/2 pack a day.

keith

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tommyp 16 years ago

Thanks, man. I actually thought about that :-) but then I decided I wanted to go this route and I don't want money from anyone.
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- Tsnyder 16 years ago
  
  Tommy...
  
  Allow me to be the first.
  
  As far as I can tell you're a weak-minded slacker. You talk a good
  game about wanting to quit then you give us some cock-n-bull story
  about how you have a partial pack left so you'll just gradually wien
  yourself off the nasty weed.
  
  HA!
  
  SURE YOU WILL!
  
  I've seen it all before... you can bullshit yourself into believing your
  namby pamby excuse but you can't bullshit me!
  
  You'll buy another pack... then another... then another... and before
  you know it the credt card statement will come in the mail with Frank's
  charge on it.
  
  And you'll be oh so apologetic about why you couldn't just man up
  and do the right thing in the first place.
  
  Well... I'll have none if it!
  
  Besides that... Frank needs the money. How selfish of you to deprive
  him of the basics of survival all because you couldn't exercise a modicum
  of self control over your nasty vices.
  
  Get on with it... no excuses!
  
  Tsnyder
  
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  Adeel_Chowdhry 16 years ago
  
  You wont last more than 6 days...
  
  ...how's that for motivation!
  
  -Adeel
  
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jennstall

16 years ago

Originally Posted by tommyp

I have one already-open pack left and I intend on using what's left in it to taper off by only having one every hour, then one every couple hours, then one every few hours and in a day or so they will be gone - I dunno if that'll work but that's the plan.

So, I get to have a shot at not lighting up and in time bettering my health, brain, saving money and using most of it to stay in Frank's membership a little longer.

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You are already rationalizing why you aren't quitting cold turkey right now. If you really can't bring yourself to throw the cigarettes away right now, do yourself a favor and smoke them all immediately.

As in, start lighting them up, sucking in as much smoke as possible and then lighting the next one when that burns out. By the time you finish the pack you will feel so damn sick you will have a much easier time sticking to a commitment to quit

I want to keep Frank's membership too, but I quit smoking months ago so I can't use cigarette money to pay for it!

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JayXtreme 16 years ago

You pathetic excuse for a man...

Why the f*** are you wasting bandwidth on your negative, sad, lifeless, desperate postings of need and hopelessness?...

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.Ahhh.... you said later.. oooops..

Sorry dude... you just let me know when to start... I love spending time degrading folk

Jay
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Brian Tayler 16 years ago

Why not give up an unhealthy habit like TV or something? Ciggarettes promote lung excerise... everyone knows that
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- Paul Gram 16 years ago
  
  Here is an easy solution. If Kern's stuff is THAT good, you should be able to make $300 in the next three weeks to pay for the next month. If you don't make that money, it must not be worth it. Easy solution.
  
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  DaniMc 16 years ago
  
  What a loser:
  
  <little girl voice>
  
  "Oh its going to be so hard! Oh I need some gum and candy! Oh no what will I do! I need some junk food. Wah. Wah. Poor me. Everyone look and feel sorry."
  
  </little girl voice>
  
  Screw your last pack. Screw your taper off. Have some balls...throw it away and never again touch the nasty, disgusting, poisonus garbage.
  
  You might as well go suck on a piece of hot raw chicken.
  
  You pathetic, whiny, whimiscal, non commital weak minded fool.
  
  PS -You can do it man. I know....I quit after 12 years.
  
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AverageGuy

16 years ago

nobody can really help you much on this matter. it really depend on you.

good luck

david

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Ricky Parker

16 years ago

Tommy,

People yelling at you and you beating yourself up about quiting are seriously both destructive to what you want to accomplish.

I honestly suggest thwarting off trying to use negativity as any motivator to make change in your life.

Either way whichever you choose. I wish you the best of luck at reaching your goals.

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DaniMc

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Ricky Parker

Tommy,

People yelling at you and you beating yourself up about quiting are seriously both destructive to what you want to accomplish.

I honestly suggest thwarting off trying to use negativity as any motivator to make change in your life.

Either way whichever you choose. I wish you the best of luck at reaching your goals.

Ahh c'mon...just have some fun with it.

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JasonKing 16 years ago

Congratulations on making the decision to be smoke-free.

You have just bought the one thing no amount of money can buy.

TIME.

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- Roy Carter 16 years ago
  
  Tommy - Don't be such a pathetic loser!
  
  Giving up is easy! Why, I myself have quit the Cubans hundreds of times. No problem!
  
  Seriously though, I wish you the best of luck mate.
  
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  Adeel_Chowdhry 16 years ago
  
  Yeh, he'll never make it in life.
  
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Ricky Parker 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel McCoy

Ahh c'mon...just have some fun with it.

I would in certain cases. I joke around about most things. And most of the time.

But I've done the "beat yourself" up routine many times in the past. And although it may seem light hearted and silly. It really does breed very negative results.

This just isn't one of those "joking" things for me.
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Scott Ames

16 years ago

My Dad quit smoking after years with pure willpower. One day he decided, and that was it. He did chew gum for a long time to help. As a kid I remember him putting a stick of gum in his mouth and out of habit trying to light it.

If you can't do it just cancel the subscription now.

It seems like a win win to me. Quit smoking and keep Franks materials which could ultimately make you lots of money. You'll be healthy, wealthy, and a bit wiser.

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Eric Johnson

16 years ago

This is the song that I listen to while I train...the "face the pain" repeated over and over and general message seems to work wonders.

YouTube - Face The Pain-By Stemme

Oh yea, and you are a piece of crap who doesn't even deserve to breathe the air that we are all sharing let alone muddying it up with your combination nicotine, tar and carbon monoxide exhalations.

Well, not really but I was trying to be like all the other cool kids

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davemiz

16 years ago

dude, if you actually USE whats in the package (the boomerang hint hint) you'll make a LOT more than the $297/month.

its no use if you don't apply what you're learning.

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entrepenerd

16 years ago

Originally Posted by davemiz

dude, if you actually USE whats in the package (the boomerang hint hint) you'll make a LOT more than the $297/month.

its no use if you don't apply what you're learning.

Right on Dave!

But, I also think it's a good idea for Tommy to quit smoking to pay for the program.

When I first got married at 18 I was in the Army and not making a whole lot of cash. I was smoking a pack and a half a day. I realized the I wasn't going to be able to afford the rent on an apartment for my lovely wife and I if I didn't give up the smoking.

So, I made a vow to myself that I would NEVER buy another pack of cigarettes. I've not broken that vow for 15 years.

You can do this, you just have to make a commitment to yourself, and REALLY mean it. Don't make some bull*&^%, half-assed attempt. Make a REAL commitment.

Oh, and then use Frank's stuff, and make an extra $300 a month (at least) and you'll really be doing well.

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Terry Hatfield

16 years ago

You could also take some of the info you been learning from your other memberships put it to use . . . and make some money to pay for your kern membership.

Terry

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JohnMcCabe

16 years ago

The last time I quit smoking (the one that stuck!) was the time I simply made up my mind I was no longer a smoker. I kept telling myself, I can't put that thing in my mouth and light it, I'm not a smoker and that's something only a smoker would do. The moment I believed that, the urge was gone (took about three days, and the withdrawal was almost painless).

Now, to fulfill your request...

If you really believe that taper-off and not start bullcrap, I'll know that if brains were gasoline, you couldn't propel a flea's motorcycle around a raindrop.

Throw the coffin nails away, dude, and stand up on your hind legs like a man...

<Andy Rooney voice>

Did you ever wonder what made that first caveman roll up a pile of leaves, stick it in his mouth, and set it on fire? It's a wonder the species survived...

</Andy Rooney voice>

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cypherslock

16 years ago

I find it amazing that even with all the cancer stories, all the knowledge out there that cigarettes WILL KILL YOU, people like the OP will still indulge. Not on ly that it tends to get expensive. Here's a thought DON'T f'ing start. and "peer pressure" or any pressure is no excuse. Now throw that pack out and start saving!

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Jason Moffatt 16 years ago

I watched both of my parents nearly die due to cigarettes before the age of 45.

Worst thing that I ever experienced in my life.

Don't be an idiot dude.
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- Shannon Herod 16 years ago
  
  I smoked for 12 years before I quit, and it took my father dying of lung cancer before I finally quit.
  
  My Dad died at 49 because he was a smoker and refused to quit.
  
  I quit because I don't want my son to go through the pain I am going through.
  
  I quit because I dont want my wife to go through the pain my Mom is going through.
  
  Quit being selfish and you will see the consequences smoking has. If you cant stop thinking about yourself you probably will never quit.
  
  Once I learned that I never looked back, just looked forward at all I had to LOSE!
  
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jennstall

16 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

I find it amazing that even with all the cancer stories, all the knowledge out there that cigarettes WILL KILL YOU, people like the OP will still indulge. Not on ly that it tends to get expensive. Here's a thought DON'T f'ing start. and "peer pressure" or any pressure is no excuse. Now throw that pack out and start saving!

It isn't indulging. It is an ADDICTION. It is also too late to tell someone not to ****ing start when they have already started.

Most people susceptible to peer pressure will deny that they are responding to it and may truly be unaware that it is affecting their decision-making processes. That's how persuasian works. Every marketer should know that already. I believe we call it social proof!

Every smoker knows that smoking will kill them. Believe me, when I smoked, total strangers felt obliged to share this fact with me every day. No shit, Sherlock, really??!

Like alcoholics and drug addicts, every smoker who finally quits eventually has to decide that they want to live and breathe freely more than they want to continue the addictive behavior. The decision can only come from within. Other people berating you to quit smoking will likely have no impact because the addiction is far stronger than the social stigma. Addiction is generally immune to social proof.

For some, sadly, the addiction is even stronger than the health consequences. My next door neighbor continues to smoke even though she's been diagnosed with emphysema and spent weeks in the hospital.

If the OP wants to stop smoking though, I do agree that he should throw the pack away immediately. "Tapering off" is just another way to make sure you will fail.

If you want some help quitting, I highly recommend "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking" by Allen Carr. I had already stopped cold turkey before I read the book, but I am certain it helped make my decision "stick" this time.

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CarlosGarcia

16 years ago

About 10 years ago, I used to smoke a pack a day, before I quit for good, it took
me a year of trying before I finally quit...

The day that I finally quit for good, was the day that I decided that I was no
longer going to smoke, due to all the signs my body was showing me about
how bad smoking was for me, and how it wasn't benefiting me in any way.

Have you thought about, what does smoking really do for you?

Besides bringing you one step closer to lung cancer, wasting money, and __________

If you really want Kern's membership, you'll figure out a way to buy it month after month,
getting people to rant at you, and put you down, is really not the way to go.

If you want people to call you a loser, moron, or a weak minded pathetic fool,
how will that bring you closer to accomplishing your goals?

At the end of the day, YOU are RESPONSIBLE for YOU.

YOU are the one who will make the DECISION, whether you'll quit, and be
able to pay for Kern's membership, or NOT.

No one else can really make that decision for you, or help you in that regard.

Negative motivators in theory may work, but if you watched The Secret, you'll realize
that you'll just be attracting more negativity into your life.

Sooner or later, your brain will say, yes, you are a loser, and you can't quit, you can't do it,
especially on the sub-conscious level, which is the most dangerous!

Take responsibility for yourself and your actions, be a man, GROW UP

Step up to the plate, quit smoking, launch a website, make money, pay for
the membership, and go about your day without wasting our time, and hearing
about how pathetic you really are.

Perhaps this is the kind of motivation that you need?

I really doubt it.

You're in charge of your own reality, no one else can really do it for you.

Whether you think you can, or can't, either way you're right, ( Henry Ford )
surely you've heard that before, right?

Now live by it!

Peace out.

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Sean A McAlister 16 years ago

I would quit smoking but

IM NOT A QUITTER!
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Janet Sawyer

16 years ago

Originally Posted by CarlosGarcia

About 10 years ago, I used to smoke a pack a day, before I quit for good, it took
me a year of trying before I finally quit...

The day that I finally quit for good, was the day that I decided that I was no
longer going to smoke, due to all the signs my body was showing me about
how bad smoking was for me, and how it wasn't benefiting me in any way.

Have you thought about, what does smoking really do for you?

Besides bringing you one step closer to lung cancer, wasting money, and __________

If you really want Kern's membership, you'll figure out a way to buy it month after month,
getting people to rant at you, and put you down, is really not the way to go.

If you want people to call you a loser, moron, or a weak minded pathetic fool,
how will that bring you closer to accomplishing your goals?

At the end of the day, YOU are RESPONSIBLE for YOU.

YOU are the one who will make the DECISION, whether you'll quit, and be
able to pay for Kern's membership, or NOT.

No one else can really make that decision for you, or help you in that regard.

Negative motivators in theory may work, but if you watched The Secret, you'll realize
that you'll just be attracting more negativity into your life.

Sooner or later, your brain will say, yes, you are a loser, and you can't quit, you can't do it,
especially on the sub-conscious level, which is the most dangerous!

Take responsibility for yourself and your actions, be a man, GROW UP

Step up to the plate, quit smoking, launch a website, make money, pay for
the membership, and go about your day without wasting our time, and hearing
about how pathetic you really are.

Perhaps this is the kind of motivation that you need?

I really doubt it.

You're in charge of your own reality, no one else can really do it for you.

Whether you think you can, or can't, either way you're right, ( Henry Ford )
surely you've heard that before, right?

Now live by it!

Peace out.

That kind of says it for me

I'm going to print that out, read it digest it and hopefully give up with it.

I think we all are looking for the new way of life, but don't want to change anything we are comfortable with. Well, change doesn't happen when things stay the same.

Does that make sense?

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Elevoution

16 years ago

Much has been written/spoken/recorder/filmed on quitting smoking. There are a lot of methods and tips, but here is the backbone of my method.

As with anything life, sometimes you fall off the wagon. The best way to counteract this is to GET BACK ON AGAIN, right away!

I like many smokers had many failed attempts at quitting smoking. But here is how I finally did it.

First, I decided that I wanted to stop, I made tat DECISION. And so the quitting process started. I was doing well, (this happens to all of us), but then I FELL OFF THE WAGON and went out, bought 10 cigarettes and smoked one.

At this point, what do most smokers do? Anwer, they finish the packet. BY WHICH TIME THEY HAVE STARTED SMOKING AGAIN!

So what did I do? After smoking the one cigarette, I destroyed the rest of the packet, AND CARRIED ON IN MY QUEST TO STOP SMOKING FOR LIFE.

"Isn't that a waste of money?" Well, if you continue to smoke, you will waste a hell of a lot more, not to mention destroy your health.

The point is, if you fall off the wagon and give in to your cravings, it is a bump in the road, a temporary hiccup, DO NOT LET IT BECOME A FAILURE.

Destroy those cigarettes, do not carry on smoking them and "then start quitting again".

KEEP QUITTING. DO NOT GIVE UP GIVING UP.

I think I fell off the wagon about three times before that was it for good. I have never smoked since. And I can sit in a group of smokers and not crave cigarettes. As a matter of fact I find it quite unpleasant (they say ex-smokers are the worst).

I hope that helps.

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CarlosGarcia

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Elevoution

KEEP QUITTING. DO NOT GIVE UP GIVING UP.

I think I fell off the wagon about three times before that was it for good. I have never smoked since. And I can sit in a group of smokers and not crave cigarettes. As a matter of fact I find it quite unpleasant (they say ex-smokers are the worst).

I hope that helps.

You're right, after I quit smoking as well, I can't stand to be around smokers,
it's almost like I'm allergic to smoke now. Have you ever talked to someone up
close after they just smoked a cigarrette? YUCK, makes me sick to my stomach.

I like the part where you said that you made a DECISION, that's something
Tony Robbins would say on your quest to quit.

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jennstall

16 years ago

Originally Posted by CarlosGarcia

You're right, after I quit smoking as well, I can't stand to be around smokers,
it's almost like I'm allergic to smoke now. Have you ever talked to someone up
close after they just smoked a cigarrette? YUCK, makes me sick to my stomach.

I feel the same. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that we can finally SMELL again. Every smoker has always smelled that disgusting, but when you smoke you totally deaden your sense of smell so you have no idea how revolting the stench is.

It's amazing how much much I can differentiate odors from each other now. When I smoked I never could.

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Zach Booker

16 years ago

Why don't you try exercising?
One day when I got my credit card bill I relized I was 10 000 in debt.
First thought that came to mind was F*** I'm gonna die -_-
Than the angryness came. I threw my toaster threw my patio doors...yes my toaster sadly...I havent made toast since.
Than I decided before causing more debt by destroying my apartment I should cool down a little.
So that night I went for a 15km run/walk. And I was 20 pounds overweight.
I didn't even relize I ran so far!
Everything happens for a reason...since that day when I was 20-30 pounds over weight I have run 3 half-marathons(still working on running a full one

)

So what do you do

Go running buddy, seriously, or hit the gym. Get your ipod and blast that music!!
Go now...run!
You'll get in shape and maybe get your lungs a little stronger!

Seriously try this, Every idea I have ever had has come to me while working out.

So go try it

Zach

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tommyp

16 years ago

WOW. I was thinking nobody would care but look at all these replies. *sob* I am really touched.

Thanks for all the replies, I thought some of them were helpful and the others, well, I'll just say thanks because you probably had good intentions and some of you said things as if you hadn't really read my post but that's okay. A lot of you went bashing me pretty early but that's okay, too, hehehe :-)

Okay, the tapering off thing. Well, those are long gone and I believe that was Saturday. The update is I've stuck with it and I promise I did not buy or bum any Sunday or today. So that's two days and I'm gonna keep going.

I'll keep you updated.

Thanks again for all the replies and I am still studying the Frank Kern stuff.

See you later!

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Joseph Then 16 years ago

Quit smoking, whether your target is to keep the subscription or not.

I saw how my father died at the age of 55 years old due to smoking. The route to his death is not peaceful one, but one that is struggling before death.

My advise: Quit smoking, do it slowly.
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- Jose Delgado 16 years ago
  
  keep smoking!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  Oooops, i mean QUIT Smoking!!!!
  
  you can do it!
  
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- SunTzu82 16 years ago
  
  "I'm gonna get one of those tracheotomies. So I can smoke two cigarettes at the same time. I'm gonna get nine tracheotomies all the way around my neck. I'll be Tracheotomy Man! "He can smoke a pack at a time! He's Tracheotomy Man!"
  
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JohnMcCabe

16 years ago

Originally Posted by tommyp

WOW. I was thinking nobody would care but look at all these replies. *sob* I am really touched.

Thanks for all the replies, I thought some of them were helpful and the others, well, I'll just say thanks because you probably had good intentions and some of you said things as if you hadn't really read my post but that's okay. A lot of you went bashing me pretty early but that's okay, too, hehehe :-)

Okay, the tapering off thing. Well, those are long gone and I believe that was Saturday. The update is I've stuck with it and I promise I did not buy or bum any Sunday or today. So that's two days and I'm gonna keep going.

I'll keep you updated.

Thanks again for all the replies and I am still studying the Frank Kern stuff.

See you later!

Tommy, I'm one of the guys that hammered you early, and fair's fair...

Way to go, man! The toughest part is almost over. A few more days, and the physical effects should be gone. Now that you've quit, just don't start again.

The really good news is that if you stay off the cancer sticks, the damage starts to repair itself and the risks go down. Now there's a goal to shoot for...

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Kay King 16 years ago

Great - keep it up. In three weeks you'll have a feeling of freedom that will amaze you!
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- testaccount1234567 16 years ago
  
  lol this is actually quiet entertaining.
  
  Good luck man..... wait I mean umm you suck!
  
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  Scott Ames 16 years ago
  
  Imagine if cigarettes did not exist. Some guy comes to a venture capital firm with an idea.
  
  VC: So tell us your idea
  Guy: Ok.. so.. I have this product. Its basically paper and a plant
  VC: Tell us more
  Guy: We grow these weeds, then we harvest the leaves and dry them, then we roll those in paper.
  VC: What good is that?
  Guy: Here's the good part. People buy them, light them on fire, and inhale the smoke into their lungs
  VC: Are you nuts? That will never sell
  Guy: I think there is a market for them.
  VC: Good luck, NEXT...
  VC: That guy was an idiot. Who would buy weeds, light them on fire, and inhale the smoke. People are not that stupid that they will destory themselves. Let's get out of here and get a beer.
  
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  seasoned 16 years ago
  
  Aw, GO AHEAD! SMOKE! If you are one of the kids I knew in school, GO TO TOWN! MAYBE you'll get emphysema! HECK, they laughed at my quiting THIS site and, after almost 3 years, I'm BACK! I'm STILL close to the #1 poster.
  
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  zapseo 16 years ago
  
  Frank's stuff is good, but $297 is simply too rich for me at this time.
  Anyone know how I cancel?
  
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  seasoned 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by zapseo
  
  Frank's stuff is good, but $297 is simply too rich for me at this time.
  Anyone know how I cancel?
  
  If worse comes to worse, there is ALWAYS the chargeback! He should be willing to simply disable the account, stop charging, and MAYBE even refund the last month or so payment. At LEAST prorate it! You'd think Frank Kern, of all people, would be sensitive to that.
  
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  zapseo 16 years ago
  
  Thanks, Steven...
  Silly me, I kept looking for a link to Frank's helpdesk on
  the sales site (no, at least not without sitting thru a video) or on frankkern.com ... didn't find it, at least easily.
  
  Found it on my shipping notice -- Customer Support Center
  
  Thanks!
  
  Judy
  
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CarlosGarcia

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Janet Sawyer

That kind of says it for me

I'm going to print that out, read it digest it and hopefully give up with it.

I think we all are looking for the new way of life, but don't want to change anything we are comfortable with. Well, change doesn't happen when things stay the same.

Does that make sense?

It does make sense, most often than not, people are looking for a quick fix to their problems,
when it's them that requires changing from the inside out.

If Tommy really wanted to quit, he would've done it already, without telling the
whole world about it. If he wanted to pay for the membership, he could easily
figure out a way to do so, perhaps by applying some of the info Frank reveals?

Only you're responsible for your decisions, your actions, and of course your destiny,
no one else can do it for you, you're in charge of your own reality. ( Oh boy, now I
sound like Joe Vitale, but he's so right in this regard, and until people truly get that
what you think about, comes about, they'll always be chasing the pipe dream. )

Change isn't easy, because it requires looking at yourself, and accepting responsibility
for your actions, but everybody is looking for the "Magic Pill" and instant gratification,
that rarely ever comes, because they're not wiling to change, or take the action necessary.

Sound familiar Tommy?

Heck, I wonder if he's even reading this thread.

He wanted the harsh reality, well there you have it. It doesn't have to be mean,
just constructive criticism to get you to WAKE UP!

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Dhira

16 years ago

The hing you really need to ask yourself is... what are you paying $300 dollars a month for... Really.. I mean what?

And is it earning you at least $600 dollars back every month?

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