How Much Would You Pay for These Articles?

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I started writing for a content mill a few weeks ago and am currently being paid $8 for a 500 word article. I believe that my articles are worth more than $8, but how much would you actually be willing to pay for one of them?

Writing for content mills is soul destroying and I would like to move away from them as soon as possible. Therefore, does anyone have any tips on how I can break into freelance writing and start earning more money?


Article 1 (Keyword - How to find a profitable niche)

So, you've discovered that the internet is a fantastic way to earn some extra money and in time it could even hold the power to turn into a full time income. But before you jump into the world of internet marketing, one of the most important steps you need to take to make money on the internet is to know how to find a profitable niche. You could write the highest quality, most persuasive content in the world, but if you are in the wrong niche then all your efforts would have been for nothing.


How to Find a Profitable Niche


- Keyword Research

When you are just starting out and are looking to create your first website, you must keep in mind that you will be competing against much more established websites. A niche such as weight loss would be near impossible to break into. However, something like "dog clippers" will not have too much competition. Do not think that just because there is not much competition, the niche will not be profitable. There is money to be made in every niche and if you mange to corner the market, you will be earning a very healthy income. Yes, even from dog clippers!

Go to Google and type in "Google Keyword Tool." This is a free service offered by Google to analyse the competition on the internet. Type in your keywords, click on "exact" instead of "broad" and it will tell you whether the competition is high or low as well as the number of searches worldwide. It goes without saying that you want the results for the searches to be high and the results for the competition to be low.

- Ideas

You now know that correct keyword research is pivotal to your online success. However, you might be struggling to find some ideas. You can't wait for a great idea to pop into your head, you must be proactive instead.

Go to your local newsagents and look at the magazine section. Each magazine is a potential niche market. The publishers have carefully planned and created a magazine to appeal to a certain demographic that shares a certain interest in common. Here is the best part though; every single article in that magazine is a sub-niche of that niche market. For example, let's look at "dog clippers" again. If you flick through a magazine targeting dog owners and you find a headline stating, "The Best Dog Clippers on the Market," then you have found your niche. "Dog Toys Your Dog is Sure to Love" might be another heading which provides you with another niche.

How to Find a Profitable Niche only really comes down to these two things; find an idea and then do the necessary research to see if the niche is viable to go into to.


Article 2 (No keyword)


Hill Country, the endearing, enduring backyard of San Antonio and Austin is impossible to pass through in a hurry. The region, consisting of fifty five areas/cities, is both casual and natural, being the perfect destination for the outdoorsman thanks to the numerous creeks, rivers, and small lakes for swimming, boating and fishing.

Home to a breathtaking display of wildflowers in springtime along roadsides, lush green landscapes all year round, and the predominant sight of rolling hills, it's a place that Texans wish they could forget, only so they can experience the joy of discovering this beautiful place all over again.

You do not have to be an outdoorsman to truly appreciate all of what Hill Country has to offer as any of the five million annual visitors will tell you. While Hill Country might be in the center of Texas, it is also at the center of everything Texas has to offer with each of the 55 cities/areas worth visiting.

The area offers unparalleled diversity which can rival a region twice the size. If you are not in the state of mind for experiencing the great outdoors, there are a plethora of other activities which you can engage in. For example, you can spend your time shopping in one of the many antique shops found in Dripping Springs, Wimberley, and Burnet.

Bandera, the cowboy capital of the world, should certainly be on the top of the list of places to visit in Hill Country as it offers visitors all year round fishing, hunting for white tailed deer and wild turkey, horse races, rodeos, hiking, camping, and even Country/Western dances.

Towns like New Braunfels and Fredericksburg brew some of the very best Czech and German beer on the U.S side of the Atlantic, served in the exact same manner as in Germany, in large steins. Besides the expected Tex-Mex cuisine that you will find, foodies can indulge in the delicious tasting sauerkraut and schnitzel, or any other national cuisine you can imagine, with Texas-size servings guaranteed.

Fredericksburg is also home to the National Museum of the Pacific War, which features exhibits and displays of the Japanese and American battles which took place during World War II in the Pacific Ocean.


For those who simply want to relax, Frio Canyon is the perfect choice to relieve any stress or worries you may have as you bask in the sunshine. If your adventurous side suddenly decides to come out, camping, canoeing, and tubing are all on offer near the Frio River.

Thanks to Hill Country being a repository of much of the history of Texas and America, you can also visit a number of heritage and historical museums, as well as historic structures which can give you a glimpse into the way early Texas settlers lived.

However, that is not all the region has to offer. Spectacular underground caverns can be found, wineries offer visitors the opportunity to experience tours of their wine making facilities and vineyards, dude ranches ensure that those looking for an authentic cowboy experience can do so, and there are numerous venues which specialize in quintessential Hill Country music and cuisine.

Whether you love the great outdoors, or prefer to explore the historical and cultural background of a region, Hill Country is the perfect destination come spring, summer, winter, or fall.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

    A very common question which is asked by anyone who has an interest in medicine is, "How long is medical school" It is a very important aspect to consider if you are planning to go into medicine and want to dedicate your life and career to helping others.
    I got stuck here on the first sentence. You've already gotten a grammar error. There should be a "." after school within the quotation marks, but there's not.

    After I saw that, my eyes automatically started scanning for more errors, so admittedly I didn't really read a lot of the content, but it's not my style. I much prefer to read something written in a conversational tone on a website. If I want facts, I go to Wikipedia or an offline encyclopedia.

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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      I was thinking the same exact thing. I found the first grammar error immediately in the first sentence and then continued to find more throughout. I also prefer to read conversational style articles and not factual ones like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      I got stuck here on the first sentence. You've already gotten a grammar error. There should be a "." after school within the quotation marks, but there's not.

      After I saw that, my eyes automatically started scanning for more errors, so admittedly I didn't really read a lot of the content, but it's not my style. I much prefer to read something written in a conversational tone on a website. If I want facts, I go to Wikipedia or an offline encyclopedia.

      -- j

      Thanks for pointing that out. However, I should probably mention that writing for a content mill is a numbers game so I do not spend much time proofreading.

      I have now replaced the first article with one that is more conversational in tone.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
        Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

        Thanks for pointing that out. However, I should probably mention that writing for a content mill is a numbers game so I do not spend much time proofreading.
        I know what causes you to feel this way, but it is still a horrible, horrible habit to fall into. Online you have nothing but your typed words to show, and if you fail to do anything, it's recorded forever.

        "Start acting now like the person you want to be tomorrow or you'll stay the person you are today forever." -- JaRyCu, May 2012. (All rights reserved, but you can quote me freely whenever you like. )

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      • Profile picture of the author harveyronn
        Good try. In this article I don't thing so any major error is presented. You can continue with your skill of writing new content on new topics. Great effort, I really appreciated your talent here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elion Makkink
    I outsource article writing and pay about $5 per 500 word article, but these are really high quality and very well written. So depends!
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  • Profile picture of the author greenleaf5
    Whether you write for a content mill or a client, you should proofread your article at least once. That way, you can catch any errors. More importantly, proofreading becomes a habit and an essential task to deliver content that makes the customer happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      Therefore, does anyone have any tips on how I can break into freelance writing and start earning more money?
      Write for people, not content mills.


      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      I got stuck here on the first sentence. You've already gotten a grammar error. There should be a "." after school within the quotation marks, but there's not.

      After I saw that, my eyes automatically started scanning for more errors, so admittedly I didn't really read a lot of the content, but it's not my style. I much prefer to read something written in a conversational tone on a website. If I want facts, I go to Wikipedia or an offline encyclopedia.
      -- j
      1. Pay attention to grammar and spelling.
      2. Stop writing boring, keyword-stuffed junk.



      Originally Posted by cashp0wer View Post

      I was thinking the same exact thing. I found the first grammar error immediately in the first sentence and then continued to find more throughout. I also prefer to read conversational style articles and not factual ones like this.





      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      Thanks for pointing that out. However, I should probably mention that writing for a content mill is a numbers game so I do not spend much time proofreading.

      I have now replaced the first article with one that is more conversational in tone.
      You are a Warrior now, No Excuses.
      Just do it right the first time.



      Originally Posted by Elion Makkink View Post

      I outsource article writing and pay about $5 per 500 word article, but these are really high quality and very well written. So depends!
      LMAO! This BS never fails to amuse me... :rolleyes:



      Originally Posted by greenleaf5 View Post

      Whether you write for a content mill or a client, you should proofread your article at least once. That way, you can catch any errors. More importantly, proofreading becomes a habit and an essential task to deliver content that makes the customer happy.
      Very well said, although I prefer the ole'
      "Measure twice, cut once" approach.
      Either way, proofread your work, no excuses.



      Another tip: Get yourself a copy of the
      Writer's Market and go to the Appendix
      that lists the best publications for new
      and unpublished writers... Start building
      your reputation with them. Also, some
      pay $25 or so up front... Not much but
      it's a start.

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    I should probably charge a lot more for my own articles lol

    I write mostly for Warriors on here, and from time to time a few of the big sites. As others have said, polish up your grammar and punctuation, then you'll find it a lot easier to pitch your work at a higher price.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      It doesn't matter if you work for a content mill, a private client, or a magazine, as a writer you have to proofread your work! Content mills have editors don't they? Don't they send your articles back to be fixed if they find grammar or spelling errors in them? Proofread them first and they will pass through the first time.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      I agree with what the others have advised you concerning your grammar and punctuation, as it could actually deter many would be clients.

      Personally, I also like to see a bit more flavor or zest if you will, while reading articles whether it be a bit of humor, a clever analogy or perhaps a short story example, for instance.

      I would like to add though, that your writing is far better than others I have read from writers just starting out. If you work out the mentioned things in this thread, I think you could do very well.

      Success to you!

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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Hi dreamtoreality,

      Good attempt.

      But, yet the first paragraph in your first article seems boredom for me. Why?

      Because I need to read complex sentences, contain 32, 35, 29 words. I've to say, such writing doesn't encourage me to further reading. By the end of such sentences I forget the beginning. So, please, loosen the rigid style a bit.

      Perhaps you know, your writing is all about your readers. Applying the conversational style in your writing makes your work much effective. Why?

      You need to grab their attention, already from the start. The conversational voice serves this purpose. This way they'll understand your message more easily. And that's the point, you want your message to go across.

      As you know, writing in conversational style means one friend talking to another. Of course, it isn't easy to everyone. Hehe, learn and acquire a conversational "voice" takes some work. And not everyone is able or willing to do so.

      But I hope, you're an exception.

      Me, as a reader like to read short sentences. As they say, 'less is more'. When I edit writing, I try to keep sentences to 10 - 15 words max.

      I hope, you can use my 0,02 cents in some way.

      Many successes,

      Sandor

      PS: Re your question: I write for myself.
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      • Profile picture of the author Racquel_McFarlane07
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        Mastering the art of quality writing takes time and it is important that you treat your work like the reflection of you that it is. As other have said whether you are writing for yourself, a client or a mill, you should proofread your writing.

        That being said, in terms of advertising, you can use article marketing to find clients, set up an ad in the warriors for hire section or also contact SEO companies directly to see if they are in need of writers.

        Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

    Thanks for pointing that out. However, I should probably mention that writing for a content mill is a numbers game so I do not spend much time proofreading.
    I think that this mindset illustrates that you aren't ready to write at a level that would command premium prices unfortunately. Writing is anything but a numbers game, so drop the mindset that the content mills have instilled in you now.

    If you don't, you can expect to keep spinning your wheels at the content mills forever.

    Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

    =Personally, I also like to see a bit more flavor or zest if you will, while reading articles whether it be a bit of humor, a clever analogy or perhaps a short story example, for instance.
    This. Personality is key when it comes to great writing. I was so bored reading through the sample. I'm easier to entertain than most, so this is an issue.

    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Nothing. That's what they add to the worth of the internet as a whole.
    Sarcastic, but true.
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  • Not bad but there is plenty of scope for improvement. Sandor has given you some excellent advice. Follow it.

    According to me, all writing is rewriting. Your articles seem to be kind that were written in one go. Professionals do not write like that, they probably spend more time proofreading and editing an article than writing it.

    You definitely have talent, just work on honing your skills.

    All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    I want to thank everyone for their feedback - it is much appreciated. At first, I was unable to spot the mistakes I made, but having spent the past few hours reading up on grammar and punctuation, the mistakes are now clear to me.

    I have heard that it is necessary for every writer to write 1 million words of crap before he/she is able to produce something of quality. As I only started writing a few weeks ago, I have a long way to go. However, this sounds like good advice. After I have written 1 million words (I am currently on 130,000), I will re-evaluate my writing skills and see what my next step should be.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      I want to thank everyone for their feedback - it is much appreciated. At first, I was unable to spot the mistakes I made, but having spent the past few hours reading up on grammar and punctuation, the mistakes are now clear to me.
      That's a good first step. Keep cleaning up your work, and eventually most of the mistakes stop happening. And you'll know which ones are particularly stubborn, so you'll be able to watch for them when you edit/proofread.

      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      I have heard that it is necessary for every writer to write 1 million words of crap before he/she is able to produce something of quality. As I only started writing a few weeks ago, I have a long way to go. However, this sounds like good advice. After I have written 1 million words (I am currently on 130,000), I will re-evaluate my writing skills and see what my next step should be.
      While you are working on that million words, spend some time reading a variety of popular fiction - romances, thrillers, whodunits, whatever. When something really grabs your attention, like a description or an action scene, examine it to see WHY it grabbed your attention.

      Try the same technique in an article. Even if you end up toning things down to fit a subject, you'll inject more life into your writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
    Content mills can be soul destroyers, but look at them from a positive perspective: Writers who have no online (or even offline) credibility have to start somewhere. Content mills allow you opportunities to gain experience and hone your skills. Depending on the setup, some editors will provide feedback to help you improve.

    Run your articles through a free spell checker/grammar checker to see where you need to improve. These tools aren't foolproof though. If something is questionable, Google it. The English forums always have the correct answers. Reference relevant style guides. Don't rush to get to the next assignment.

    When you give your best, even though you are writing for peanuts, you just might score some long-term clients who will pay you what you're worth.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I know you need to aim for numbers on content mills, but it really makes articles sound crap. You should probably take more care writing and aim for better clients.

      You need to cut out junk. Something like:
      When you are just starting out and are looking to create your first website, you must keep in mind that you will be competing against much more established websites.
      Could easily be made better if you cut it down to something like:
      If you're starting out and creating your first website, keep in mind you'll be competing against much more established competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
      Originally Posted by Elluminati View Post

      Content mills can be soul destroyers, but look at them from a positive perspective: Writers who have no online (or even offline) credibility have to start somewhere. Content mills allow you opportunities to gain experience and hone your skills. Depending on the setup, some editors will provide feedback to help you improve.

      Run your articles through a free spell checker/grammar checker to see where you need to improve. These tools aren't foolproof though. If something is questionable, Google it. The English forums always have the correct answers. Reference relevant style guides. Don't rush to get to the next assignment.

      When you give your best, even though you are writing for peanuts, you just might score some long-term clients who will pay you what you're worth.
      Respectfully, I have to disagree with you regarding the content mills. I think they are abominable waste of space for any writer to start out on. When I was a writing newb, I actually started by perusing the listings on Craigslist and managed to score a gig that paid $1,000. So it can be done. You just need to set your bar a little higher and make plans to go over it.

      In fact I wrote a short post about writing content this afternoon regarding my thoughts on creation of the written word.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...g-content.html
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      • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
        Originally Posted by Charlotte Jay View Post

        Respectfully, I have to disagree with you regarding the content mills. I think they are abominable waste of space for any writer to start out on. When I was a writing newb, I actually started by perusing the listings on Craigslist and managed to score a gig that paid $1,000. So it can be done. You just need to set your bar a little higher and make plans to go over it.

        In fact I wrote a short post about writing content this afternoon regarding my thoughts on creation of the written word.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...g-content.html
        To each his/her own. I started out with a content mill as a top writer because I didn't really know what else to do to establish online cred as a writer. I received more direct orders than I could handle and still work with 4 of those clients who pay me what I require. So, while you found your luck on Craigslist, which is great, I've found it to be extremely competitive. What worked for you may not work for me or the next person and vice versa...He needs to up his writing game if he stands a chance on Craigslist with respectable pay...
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        • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
          Originally Posted by Elluminati View Post

          To each his/her own. I started out with a content mill as a top writer because I didn't really know what else to do to establish online cred as a writer. I received more direct orders than I could handle and still work with 4 of those clients who pay me what I require. So, while you found your luck on Craigslist, which is great, I've found it to be extremely competitive. What worked for you may not work for me or the next person and vice versa...He needs to up his writing game if he stands a chance on Craigslist with respectable pay...
          The fact he needs to get on board with his style/format/grammar etc is a given of course. I just want to put it out there that you don't have to be stuck writing for the content mills, and that is my opinion. I'm not trying to rub anyone the wrong way over this, rather offer some valuable information that they can take to heart.
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          • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
            Originally Posted by Charlotte Jay View Post

            The fact he needs to get on board with his style/format/grammar etc is a given of course. I just want to put it out there that you don't have to be stuck writing for the content mills, and that is my opinion. I'm not trying to rub anyone the wrong way over this, rather offer some valuable information that they can take to heart.
            I totally feel and respect what you're advising, dear. I failed to mention that I only contributed 4-5 months to the content mill I worked for before establishing a full clientele. So, you are right about not having to be stuck there.
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    You can check out Textbroker and oDesk to help market your services. Good luck! Don't get sucked into taking peanuts for your panache!
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