is the money just in the "make money" niche?

There's "big" money to be made in any "niche" with a large group of passionate people. It really is as simple as that. You won't see too many people talking about the money they make in other niches, because people who aren't in the "make money online" niche usually don't sell info products on how they make money. Quite the opposite in fact - they prefer NOT to draw attention to themselves.

Why would you think that? Not everyone that has an internet connection are interested in making money online.

Every conceivable product and service in the world is available online and you can make money in all of them.

No, absolutely not. Actually, there's 90%> of the money earned in non-IM niches. When you combine the health, fat loss, fitness, dieting, beauty, self-help and other giant niches, then the IM niche looks like a dwarf.

Choose your passion other than IM and the money will follow, if you put in a reasonable amount of work and time.

Cheers,
Ray

This tells me that the types of products you are looking at are not the right ones. Stay away from anything that makes an income claim. They have nothing to do with you and nothing to do with the potential of the product.

Your. Experience. May. Vary.

Anyways, it's easy to be cynical about where the money is made if you are looking at the newbie products pretending to be something they are not.

I know of quite a few marketers who don't operate in the IM niche at all. I don't, and yes there is real money to be made.

Just have to find out what the people are looking for and you can find a way to help them find it. That's where you get your profits.

Hey Nicole,

Everyone in here is correct in that there is money that can be made in just about any niche. If people need it or want it, then you have a shot.

Case in point, though I'm not one of the big timers, in my niche of hip hop, I am a beat maker (I make hip hop instrumentals) that I sell for artists, singers, and even businesses for that matter, who are looking for hip hop instrumentals. There is a high demand for it because let's face it, in the music industry period, there are always people that are aspiring to sing and/or rap, and there are hobbyists who want to impress their friends with music or just putting something together. So, with that said, there is a market for it.

I'm no millionaire out of it, but I do sell a decent share. And I do it because I taught myself some of the IM methods and basics some years ago which helped me to make money off of my talent and enjoyment, something I hadn't done until I learned about IM methods.

I even took it and spun it a bit further thinking outside the box, and decided to create sounds for people that also make their own beats, to which I probably sell more of than I do the instrumentals themselves! Guess there's more people in the market to make their own instrumentals that are willing to buy than there are artists who are wanting to buy instrumentals.

And in my hip hop niche, there are other people that sell a LOT more instrumentals on a regular basis and made a career out of it, implementing IM techniques of course to their niche. And in the end, that's what IM is all about... applying techniques to your own niche and making it work for you.

Sure, in this forum, you'll probably see a large percentage of WSOs focused on how you can make money and they make their money by teaching you things to help you make money, but there is money to be made though in other niches indeed.

You just have to find an interest you like, that gears and focuses to something you can offer to people in need. If you love painting and are good at it, trust me, there will be people that will buy what you have to offer as there are lots of painters out there who want to paint a wonderful Bob Ross type picture (he was an awesome painter) but don't know how... and you can create videos and sell a course teaching them how.

If you're good at gardening and have prize growing flowers, there are LOTS of people out there that want to know how to stop their flowers from dying so you can get into it as well and make an ebook and teach them how and sell it for cheap.

Biggest thing with any niche is finding an angle of it that you enjoy and that also has a following of people interested in doing what you enjoy, and of course learning all the methods you can to build more and more traffic to your site to join your site via email opt in and/or buy what you have to offer after they enjoy your free offer.

Best of luck and success to you... just know that there are many markets out there that are waiting to be fed something to help them... and that's where you need to be.

The Make Money Online (MMO) market is a very tiny, tiny market in the big scheme of the online e-commerce world. There are far too many markets, niches, and sub-niches that have nothing to do with the MMO market. In my experience, that's where the real money is.

RoD

Sure, money can be made in lots of different niches. What does "make money" niche include?

Business consulting?
Marketing training? (not those "write guest post" kinda products, but actual marketing)
Helping with taxes?
Running day-to-day business operations (and automating them)?
SEO for corporations?

There is more to "make money" than the traditional IM.

If you stay on 'just' this forum, then you will definitely suffer from some confirmation bias. What ties most of us together here IS the desire to make money (generally) and for some, to 'make money online' more specifically. The majority of intelligent marketers are able to analyse trends and cater to the audience (in any niche) and so, here, we are more apt to see products (and successes) geared towards 'make money [online]'.

What you choose to DO with that knowledge is largely applicable towards ANY niche. I have started to help businesses be successful (any niche, really) by providing SEO services using methods I've learned here and modified to suit myself.

There are people that make money selling physical products, as well as digital products and ebooks where the products have absolutely nothing to do with making money at all.

You can learn a lot from this forum that is certainly applicable to any niche.

Money is definitely in the smaller niches. The question is do you want to run and create a full business in one of these niches? There is money to be made in the internet marketing and make money online niche, but you will see lots of sales faster in small obscure niches.

There is a lot of money in any money-making product - it could be online, restaurant marketing or starting a gym.

For many people it feels as if this is the biggest place to make money - but look at Google, Amazon and Facebook. They are making money in other markets - much more money than any IM guru.

Im starting to think there's money only to be made in the make money online niche alone, I have a youtube music video that gets around 10,000-20,000 video views daily and I tried marketing a more targed product and i only get about 2-3 clicks to my squeeze page daily and i offer them the opportunity to download the music video free, put up ringtone ads, beat making software, beats and the only money I've made is with make money from home clickbank offers. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, I've listened to the Warriors advice and it has gone ass-backwards.

Why is the "make money" niche profiable? Because, people want to learn how to make money. Just think about it. The Guru's want you to find a hungry market, right? Well, what better way to think of a hungry niche than internet marketing, especially in this ecomony.

thank you all for your responses... very helpful and inspiring!

Any area or niche that has a gap and able to solve people's problem will be a make money niche.

There are just too many people that do not have enough money, or simply need more money. If there is anything that can help this people, the niche can make money! Same goes to any niche that can solve A LOT of people's problems.

It can appear so, because this is the Internet Marketing forum and IM and MMO niches
are some of the most popular and profitable. However, as others have pointed out, you
can make money in any niche where there are people willing to spend money. It comes
down to tactics and techniques how to do it.

The make money niche is over loaded in my opinion.

You should do some proper research to find a good niche that there is not many people in and this should bring some good results.

There definitely more money to be made outside of mmo. I make 100% of my income outside of mmo via software and ebooks in various niches.

Health, wealth, and relationships are some of the most lucrative niches out there. Just follow where the money is...

Self improvement, video games, mlm, dating, just to name a few. Also try breaking it down into mirco niches. There are alot of lucrative niches. It all depends on your approach towards it.

Many people start with a Niche their passionate about, learn the ropes, and the teach others. It seems to be a natural progression! In answer to your original question, money to be made everywhere if you do it right!

No, the IM niche is overcrowded and full on me2 products which create a high percentage of refunds. If I was starting out again I would grow my list in another niche!

I don't blame you it seems like it.

Forget the Make money niche , to much competition , too much work , too much of everything exept money !!! Go to 45 thingh and see what peoples need , go to yahoo answer , go to furum and check for problems to solve . Dig deeper , more deep ( i mean keyword search , competitons and so on ..) and then when you find the niche search for a product or build yourself one . Plenty of niche , very or medium profitable , create more website , rinse and repeat , remember little drop of cash here and there is adding up to quite a big bag of cash. Promote CB , CJ , AMAZON and any product you can immagine , create content constantly ping , social ,aticle directory , press relaese , and so on , THE CLASSIC WAY ...., results will come .

Any niche is a profitable niche, the best ones are the ones people don't use.. Its all in the keywords..

There's money to be made in plenty of non "Make Money" niches. Just go in to any store or even Amazon and see what people are buying. Look over at eBay and see what people are bidding on.

The thing with the "make money" niche is that it is usually a "rabid" and "desperate" crowd. So they buy and buy a lot. You don't get that in a lot of other niches.

The other thing is that most of the products that you buy that teach you how to "make money online" use techniques that are proven and tested on the "make money" niche and don't necessarily work the same (or at all) in other niches.

Lee

There are many..many...options you can choose to get passive income or active income from internet. I have a friend that focus to what interesting on him and he has the skill on that niche. And hey...he even didn't care about SEO or everything, but traffics come like a flood because he have royal reader's from his blog and he made a smart decision with creating and selling his own product ( physical )...and know what?. Money will come automatically....

You can make money out of any product on the Internet because it's the biggest marketplace on the planet.

You only thing you need to decide on is demand (see Google KW Tool) and check competition. Less competition means a greater chance of success for you!

Of course not.

I make money in health and beauty niche.

The fact is, you can make money in any niche if you know how.

Some great advice above.......be encouraged!


all the best,
Jerry K

That's a very common misunderstanding by
tons of people starting off in marketing
online. I think you might agree if I say that
if you take a look around you in the real
world... You will see tons of marketing
attempts. Magazine ads, newspaper ads,
direct mail letters and ads, salespeople,
gimmicks, advertisements, radio ads,
billboards...

You see it everywhere, and that's just the
same online as it is offline. Granted, some
things can't be sold online (or are harder
to), like an expensive car.

But the internet's grown... You can sell
physical products, you can sell digital
products, experiences, and even lines of
CODE!

The online world has ezines to replace
magazines, email to replace mail, banner
ads to replace space ads and billboards,
popups to replace brochures, etc...

It's the exact same thing!

And I'll say this too. The "make money"
market exists offline too. It usually starts
with genuine offers, and then tons of
clueless people start jumping on the
bandwagon and RESELLING these ideas in
crappy packaging, without expanding on the
information.

Most of the time, the info gets bloated,
diluted and less genuine, because time has
a habit to change and update things.

I myself make a living with easily over tens
and tens of niches. Money CAN be made
outside of the "make money" niche.

Think of it this way...

To someone else, they might have a certain
desire that is of a higher importance than
making money. Do you think she/he'd buy
it?

Certainly!

Winston Tian

ya every service is available hare online but you can make money when you want in niche or other whenever you want

No.

And I have two points to raise here:

1. In terms of raw numbers, health and weight loss is a bigger industry than money advice (that INCLUDES internet marketing, trading and real estate COMBINED)!

2. Do YOU have any interests outside of making money online? Just wondering because I have a lot of them, and I can tell you there are people selling e-books, training courses, seminars and audio recordings in just about every subject I read about. There's a guru for basically everything human beings do these days. The really obvious ones are fitness (GET RIPPED GURUS), mental health (visualization and meditation gurus), and conspiracy theories (end the fed 2012 aliens nuke-proof bunker gurus), and religion (end times gurus). Those are just the really obvious ones that play to common fears and insecurities, but I bet you a million dollars you can find a farming guru or a chinese checkers guru if you look hard enough.

Just off the top of my head, here's a list of topics that I know people are making money in:

- Dating advice.
- Travel advice.
- Religion.
- Supplements.
- Trading.
- Real estate.
- Programming.
- Freelancing (well I guess this is kind of MMO but not in the traditional sense, the market would still be there if there was no internet).
- Marriage advice.
- DIY home repairs.
- Alternative medicine.

There's money to be made in almost every niche. You can promote various Amazon products, info products, etc. As long as the demand is there, there's money in the niche.

There are probably countless niches to 'make money' in. But it really depends on your interest and expertise in those areas as well.

The MMO niche probably isn't a top 100 niche. The number of people involved in the buying and selling is just way too small. It's a small pond with small fish. Even the biggest guru fish in MMO aren't all that significant in the scope of the business world. Regardless of them being labeled marketing superstars in these parts, it's unlikely that any of them could land a job as the head of marketing for a Fortune 500 company. When you look at it that way, it puts things into perspective.

There is money to be made from the money making niche but there are so many other niches that make money online.

I have 100's of sites online that make money through adsense, affiliate offers, and CPA

Just a few niches which are profitable for me are:
weight loss,
finance
debt control
embarrassing health issues
sports
betting and gambelling
pet problems

If someone have back pain sick, buying digital product is not curing but go to a doctor is the solution.

There are millions of niches out there. Sell something that solves a problem, meets a demand, or something that people generally find interest in.

This could be ANYTHING. And I mean ANYTHING.

BP

It took me a long time to start making money, and it only happened for me when I moved away from the make money niche! best move I ever made!

Who are working in other niches are not marketing their income and showing their big cheques. Making money online is one of the attractive one, but people are earing from many other niche as well. But, What you said is true in a sense that those people who are making money online through their making money online niche, most of the time earning from that niche only.

The IM Niche is probably the only niche where folks plaster their screenshots of income (Photoshopped or not) all over the web. (This is due to the fact that their product is about how to make money, thus they need to show you that they are making money). Other niches such as our Music And Multimedia Niches do not need to show income, as our products are not directly showing you how to make money. That's probably why you don't notice that other niches are making money as well. Short answer, the money is not just in the making money niche.