Is it allowed to offer your service in this section of the forum?

12 years ago

I'm afraid you can't. If you want to offer your service, you can post it in Warrior for Hire section, you must pay $20 to post. (Look, you already do that, why asking? lol

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OR....

you can have your own website, describe your service there and post the website in your signature.

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mindreaderwriter

Banned 12 years ago

Viramara,

Thank you for your response but I believe I should be more specific with what I am pertaining into.

For example, someone, in this section, is asking for help on how to find the best proofreaders in Warrior Forum. Being a writing service provider that I am, I can't help but to respond based on my quality control processes. I would be a hypocrite if I would just say "You know what, just read through this section of the forum and you'll see lots of content writing providers who can surely help you out."

Surely, I would be tempted to deliver that statement this way:
"You know what, just read through this section of the forum and you'll see lots of content writing providers, LIKE ME, who can surely help you out."

I am just really a very analytic person that I don't want to commit mistakes, as much as possible. I'm allergic to mistakes. I just don't want other Warriors to judge me for every single word that I make when I respond to threads. In most cases, these judgmental Warriors are the ones who provide the same services that you do. They feel they're being overtaken when you supply a very powerful information to the OP and at the end of your answer there's a little but unintentional touch of selling your services. You can't help it. That's an instinct coming from a provider's point of view.

Do I make sense in here?

By the way, I'm not new into IM. I've been doing this since 2005. Your second condition has been long time since met.

mindreaderwriter

Originally Posted by Viramara

I'm afraid you can't. If you want to offer your service, you can post it in Warrior for Hire section, you must pay $20 to post. (Look, you already do that, why asking? lol

)

OR....

you can have your own website, describe your service there and post the website in your signature.

Thanks
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Viramara

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mindreaderwriter

I am just really a very analytic person that I don't want to commit mistakes, as much as possible. I'm allergic to mistakes. I just don't want other Warriors to judge me for every single word that I make when I respond to threads. In most cases, these judgmental Warriors are the ones who provide the same services that you do. They feel they're being overtaken when you supply a very powerful information to the OP and at the end of your answer there's a little but unintentional touch of selling your services. You can't help it. That's an instinct coming from a provider's point of view.

Do I make sense in here?

By the way, I'm not new into IM. I've been doing this since 2005. Your second condition has been long time since met.

mindreaderwriter

If you're not new into IM, then you should know you gotta be thick-skinned enough to move on if this kind of people are trying to flop your reputation in the thread.

Some people could be judgmental, but not all (maybe few) Warriors here are like as zealous as you thought, afaik.

I knew a WSO owner banned only because he posted "hey, check out my signature, my WSO can answer your problem". Please don't let it happen to you. My only suggestion is to make your signature copy catchy and enticing to click.

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mindreaderwriter

Banned 12 years ago

Thanks Viramara. Well, I know a few people, not only in the IM arena, wherein being thick-skinned isn't always the answer to stand still on your reputation or, at least, on what you think is right. I can't always expect everyone to use my own scale of righteousness. I think that's the sad part to that - if the Warrior accusing me of self-promotion and the Moderator are on the same wavelength. One thing may surely happen. It's either you'll be warned or you'll get banned for being thick-skinned on what I think is right.

I am hoping I'm not giving everyone some headache in here.

Originally Posted by Viramara

If you're not new into IM, then you should know you gotta be thick-skinned enough to move on if this kind of people are trying to flop your reputation in the thread.

Some people could be judgmental, but not all (maybe few) Warriors here are like as zealous as you thought, afaik.

I knew a WSO owner banned only because he posted "hey, check out my signature, my WSO can answer your problem". Please don't let it happen to you. My only suggestion is to make your signature copy catchy and enticing to click.

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imagene

12 years ago

Could you respond to a thread knowing that someone could use your services and say, "Dude, check out my sig" or put a link pointing to your ad in the Warriors for Hire section? Good question OP

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mindreaderwriter

Banned 12 years ago

imagene,

Exactly my point! Well, what I'm saying is that you DON'T INTENTIONALLY promote your services but you just can't really ignore the fact that, if the needs or questions of the other OP is answerable by one or two of the services you provide, your responses will surely be leading to telling the OP to try your services because you know to yourself you can really help. It won't make sense to me if I were to promote other Warriors' service if I, myself, is providing the same service. Makes sense?

mindreaderwriter

Originally Posted by imagene

Could you respond to a thread knowing that someone could use your services and say, "Dude, check out my sig" or put a link pointing to your ad in the Warriors for Hire section? Good question OP

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by imagene

Could you respond to a thread knowing that someone could use your services and say, "Dude, check out my sig" or put a link pointing to your ad in the Warriors for Hire section? Good question OP

People who do this get their posts deleted. People who do it often, lose their signature privileges.

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datingworld

12 years ago

The proper section for such announcements is Warrior For Hire Section.

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laurencewins

12 years ago

You also have the option of pming someone and telling them you may be able to help.
If I see someone needing help and I can help them, I usually either PM them or suggest they check out my website or sig links.

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FredJones 12 years ago

I've read through the responses and there seems to be a suggestion of asking actively to look at your sig file.

I'm not a moderator so the below is just my 2 cents - feel free to ignore.

As far as a service is concerned, it needs to be in the Warriors For Hire section. If there's something special in your service for Warriors only (such as the price or the deliverable to name a few) then you could also run it as a WSO in the Warriors Special Offers section.

Having said that, surely, you cannot open a thread here in the main marketing forum and offer your service. You also cannot open a thread in the main marketing forum, and keep saying there "look at my sig" or "look at this link pointing to my service thread on the Warriors For Hire section" now and then and bounce the thread up.

At the same time, I think it is okay on the main marketing section to ask the permission of someone to do a PM or to suggest someone looking for a solution to PM you if you really have the solution. That's not as a service. That's to create awareness about your service towards an Warrior who requires it and is asking questions (so may not necessarily have a solutoin to the problem already).

Please note that the above are my two cents from what I know. They may not necessarily be accurate - the above is written just on my best belief. If you really want to know the official words then you could think of raising a Support Ticket and ask your question from the right angle with the right details.
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KelticWarrior

Banned 12 years ago

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FredJones

12 years ago

Oops, its slightly different from what I'd meant.

I'd meant that one could ask right here on the forum (public) in response to the person posing the problem and mention something like - "I have a suggestion/solution (whatever applies) for you, may I PM you?" or "I have a suggestion/solution for this case, feel free to PM me" - something to that effect.

Originally Posted by KelticWarrior

I agree with Fred,

I don't think it's against any rules to PM Fred(example) like this.

"Hello Fred.

I accidentally noticed your new thread on the discussion section and wanted to let you know about my cheap and professional service which you might want to take a look. I thought it would suit your needs.

Thanks
TKW."

Just my 2c.

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Gail_Curran

12 years ago

Originally Posted by FredJones

I'd meant that one could ask right here on the forum (public) in response to the person posing the problem and mention something like - "I have a suggestion/solution (whatever applies) for you, may I PM you?" or "I have a suggestion/solution for this case, feel free to PM me" - something to that effect.

That could still be considered self promotion, and doing too much of it could get you into trouble. It just depends on how you are perceived by other members, and how much value you offer in other posts.
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mindreaderwriter

Banned 12 years ago

I agree with Gail_Curran, too. We just really can't have everyone work and play on our own scale of beliefs and righteousness.

Originally Posted by Gail_Curran

That could still be considered self promotion, and doing too much of it could get you into trouble. It just depends on how you are perceived by other members, and how much value you offer in other posts.
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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by mindreaderwriter

Fellow Warriors,

I've read the sticky notes in this section of the forum. However, I just want to ask the tenured members of this forum to make sure that I am not violating any policy.

While most people are asking questions in this section, is it okay if I will be offering my service to that person if I feel that what he needs fall into one of the services I offer? Or, I can only respond to anyone by giving self-help or DIY instructions without the need for them to avail any of my services?

Sincerely,

mindreaderwriter

NO. It is self promotion and is not allowed in any of the discussion forums. There's plenty of advertising forums here, plus your signature lines to get your sales message across.

Originally Posted by mindreaderwriter

Viramara,

Thank you for your response but I believe I should be more specific with what I am pertaining into.

For example, someone, in this section, is asking for help on how to find the best proofreaders in Warrior Forum. Being a writing service provider that I am, I can't help but to respond based on my quality control processes. I would be a hypocrite if I would just say "You know what, just read through this section of the forum and you'll see lots of content writing providers who can surely help you out."

The answer is still no. Self promotional posts are reported and deleted and if it's consistent, members are sometimes given a little forum vacation.

Originally Posted by KelticWarrior

I agree with Fred,

I don't think it's against any rules to PM Fred(example) like this.

"Hello Fred.

I accidentally noticed your new thread on the discussion section and wanted to let you know about my cheap and professional service which you might want to take a look. I thought it would suit your needs.

Thanks
TKW."

Just my 2c.

You may get a warning from a mod if you do it often enough or to the wrong person. I personally don't care much for members pm spamming me and will report it.

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Jeff Lenney

12 years ago

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mindreaderwriter

Banned 12 years ago

I appreciate all your responses, guys.

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mindreaderwriter

Surely, I would be tempted to deliver that statement this way:
"You know what, just read through this section of the forum and you'll see lots of content writing providers, LIKE ME, who can surely help you out."

Assuming that the original poster was actually asking for a service, there is nothing wrong with an answer such as you gave above. Just keep the link to your site or ad for your service in your signature.

Be careful to only do that when it's requested, though, or you could definitely end up in trouble.

It's been said before by moderators that you can do that when someone asks for a particular service or product. I know I've responded to people who ask about PLR and told them that I have it available, as well as many others.

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