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Attempting to Write for Hire

by earthmom22
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Hi All,

I've been reading here lately and my head is spinning - there really is a lot of information posted on this forum and I thank every person for their time and effort to give their experience and wisdom to others.

I'm struggling to make sense of it all and take out the most valuable pieces that will help me to get started (again) writing for money.

If any of you are in the mood to critique, I have some writings up at earthmomBooks.

They are NOT works I did for money. On the top menu bar (under the graphic) there are a few blogs - Cool Things - Xen and the Art of Bookselling (sorry but the last letter in the alphabet doesn't work on this laptop) and a movie review blog that was just for friends and family and for fun.

If you open up the Bookselling blog and look at the right under 'Sections' - down to 'The Magical Side' and 'The Beginning - The Layoff' - those tell my story. Worked for corporations for 20 years, Tech writer, Graphic artist, Sr. Web Programmer for the Olympics, got laid off and came home and started my own business selling books and other items online.

I've been running my own business for 9 years and playing around online everyday, contributing to forums, helping friends with websites, etc but not for pay.

An injury, surgery, bills - I'm now interested in increasing my income as much as possible and returning to writing seems like the way to go. I'm just unable to see the path back. Since I used to feed at the corporate trough, it's much more difficult to find ways to sell yourself alone in the world as a single entity.

I have been published, 12 times or more, in a paper computer mag. I signed up on iWriter.com after reading about it here, and have been playing with writing fast SEO content pieces for pennies. I thought, like others, that 'starting at the bottom and working up' was the way to go but other posts and messages on this forum have changed my mind about that. Especially since my requestor on iWriter said my article was too good and most likely stolen.

I think I'm rambling now. Thank you for reading - if you want to read and critique I'll try to not be thin skinned about it. Any suggestions or ideas or pointers or encouragement are welcome as I'm trying to find my footing.

Kind Regards, earthmom
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  • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
    PS I am now reading posts here about how badly I set up that website and why I'm not making any money with my Google ads.

    It wasn't set up for money, but for fun, and I can already see some things that have to be changed.

    This is a great forum - thank you all again.
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    • Profile picture of the author fluffythewondercat
      Are you the earthmom from the Amazon forums?

      EDITED to add: Yes, I see you are. There's that blog post I remember about how to make your own air pillows.

      Okay. So, don't believe everything you read here. There are lots of hidden agendas. Freelance writers hanging out their shingles here absolutely *loathe* the folks who write for $5 per article on Fiverr. You can probably guess why. But some people pay the bills at $5 a pop. It's really an individual decision.

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      • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
        Obviously from your posts you can write. I would suggest writing for revenue share sites like Squidoo, Hubpages and Infobarrel to build up residual income and writing for flat rates for immediate income. Also consider ebook publishing such as Kindle publishing and starting your own websites.

        There are some great Free forums for writers where you can get tips and ideas and I will send you a link to one of them.
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        • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
          Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

          Obviously from your posts you can write. I would suggest writing for revenue share sites like Squidoo, Hubpages and Infobarrel to build up residual income and writing for flat rates for immediate income. Also consider ebook publishing such as Kindle publishing and starting your own websites.

          There are some great Free forums for writers where you can get tips and ideas and I will send you a link to one of them.
          Thank you for your time and the tips! I appreciate it.

          Thank you for the private messages and pointers also that I received - I will be following up on those! I SO hope to be able to help others here like I have on that other forum. I do believe in giving back.
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          • Profile picture of the author James Gladwell
            Lilblackdress is absolutely right, go and write for revenue sharing sites.

            Also, put your blogs onto Technorati and then sign up as one of their contributing writers.

            Fundamentally, if you want to build a business that earns you good money, you need to be selling something.

            Selling your writing services at places like Elance.com (working as a ghostwriter for example) is one way to do it, but that means exchanging time for money, which is a model that I suggest moving away from as quickly as you can.

            Instead, why not create a great income on revenue sharing sites, get really good at writing for them, then show others how to create the same income via your own information product. Your USP is the fact that you're already a seasoned writer, so capitalise on that.

            Best wishes for a fabulous future.

            J
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            • Profile picture of the author James Gladwell
              Oh, and a quick 'mindset' note:

              Stop 'attempting' to write for hire and just do it. There's no need to try, you have all it takes to succeed. Just apply yourself consistently and you'll make it.
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              • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
                Originally Posted by James Gladwell View Post

                Oh, and a quick 'mindset' note:

                Stop 'attempting' to write for hire and just do it. There's no need to try, you have all it takes to succeed. Just apply yourself consistently and you'll make it.

                OH dang - you got me! You're right. Wow that says it all doesn't it. My self esteem in this area is way low!

                Yoda - There is no try only do.

                Thank you for nailing me on that one.
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            • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
              Originally Posted by James Gladwell View Post

              Lilblackdress is absolutely right, go and write for revenue sharing sites.

              Also, put your blogs onto Technorati and then sign up as one of their contributing writers.

              Fundamentally, if you want to build a business that earns you good money, you need to be selling something.

              Selling your writing services at places like Elance.com (working as a ghostwriter for example) is one way to do it, but that means exchanging time for money, which is a model that I suggest moving away from as quickly as you can.

              Instead, why not create a great income on revenue sharing sites, get really good at writing for them, then show others how to create the same income via your own information product. Your USP is the fact that you're already a seasoned writer, so capitalise on that.

              Best wishes for a fabulous future.

              J
              Thank you James - there's a LOT in that post. I'm taking your words line by line - not understanding most of it but will find out what each site has to offer! I appreciate all of the pointers!

              What is "Your USP " in the last line? I'd love to know what my best thing is that I should capitalise on! .... Unspoken power? Underneath Super Power?

              I keep thinking too "Dammit I can write - and I used to be paid to write" but I was paid by tech mags for programming articles when I was actively programming and right in the thick of things. I'm not there now and have lost the path for now. Gotta get my footing back on my own. Thank you!
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              • Profile picture of the author James Gladwell
                Originally Posted by earthmom22 View Post

                Thank you James - there's a LOT in that post. I'm taking your words line by line - not understanding most of it but will find out what each site has to offer! I appreciate all of the pointers...

                ...What is "Your USP " in the last line? I'd love to know what my best thing is that I should capitalise on! .... Unspoken power? Underneath Super Power!
                USP is Unique Selling Point or Unique Selling Proposition. It's the thing that marks you out as being unique as a writer.

                Originally Posted by earthmom22 View Post

                OH dang - you got me! You're right. Wow that says it all doesn't it. My self esteem in this area is way low!

                Yoda - Do, or do not, there is no try.

                Thank you for nailing me on that one.
                Haha, yes, sorry to 'catch you out' but using the right words is crucial to your success as it programs your mind. That Yoda quote is one of my favourites incidentally.
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      • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
        Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

        Are you the earthmom from the Amazon forums?

        EDITED to add: Yes, I see you are. There's that blog post I remember about how to make your own air pillows.

        Okay. So, don't believe everything you read here. There are lots of hidden agendas. Freelance writers hanging out their shingles here absolutely *loathe* the folks who write for $5 per article on Fiverr. You can probably guess why. But some people pay the bills at $5 a pop. It's really an individual decision.

        fLufF
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        HEY! Yes I am *waves* Nice to see you. That was fun - the how to make your own air pillows blog post And How to Pack a Book (the book burrito) Yeah, some 35,000 posts on the Amazon forums providing unpaid first level support to newbies but didn't receive a dime! It's now time to go out and look for my dimes!

        Well I don't want to be loathed, I also don't want to be giving away my life for $5 an article if there is a better way. Thanks for the post - I'm hoping to keep on learning until I Get This.
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  • Profile picture of the author WriterWahm
    There's so much good advice here already. I just want to add that you should consider taking out a warrior for hire ad; there are some really good gigs going on here. You are a great writer so price your work accordingly. You really don't need those who want to pay you peanuts for a thoroughly researched and well written article.

    Lil Black Dress mentioned above that you should consider Kindle publishing. You really should. Put together your own How To books (they do not have to be epistles) and upload them to the Kindle store...it's free.

    You already are passionate about writing so that's good. Use this forum to get ideas on how to really market your services and your products, when you start creating those.

    I hope this helps even a little bit.
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    • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
      I hadn't considered Kindle books but if it's free to get one started, what is there to lose? That is a really cool idea. Thank you for the kind words and that great tip, Sharon!
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      • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
        Sorry LilBlackDress - I didn't mean to ignore your Kindle suggestion. For some reason it clicked when Sharon seconded the notion. Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Velant
    You can post your copywriting service in warrior for hire section, creating a nice catchy title and offering a few (3-5) FREE review copies to reputable warriors (say those having at least 100 posts, >=10 thanks and registered for at least 6 months) in exchange for review on your thread. I would add "Free Review Copies" to your title to attract a lot more viewers.

    Then do the orders quickly with the best quality you possibly can, so that not only your writing skills get assessed, but also your speed and punctuality. You may then get some paid orders and start building your database of loyal and (hopefully) repeated clients.

    P.S. It cost $20 to post on WFH, but it's a great exposure and worth every cent of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
      Thank you Velant. I have seen this suggestion and have wondered "Is it worth it?"

      Thanks for the recommendation and advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
      I have to add to this thread that you all have been very fast with overwhelmingly positive and helpful replies. What a group! Thank you all! I have a lot of delicious ideas to plunge into!
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      Velant - your warrior for hire ad is WOW!
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  • Profile picture of the author ProAffiliate01
    I think you would be great at creative non-fiction. You should set up a blog if you haven't done so already, and keep pitching samples. Keep up the good work. Writing online is not as hard to get into as people think.
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    • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
      Thank you for the words of encouragment! I have some blogs, all pulled into earthmombooks.com They were for my own entertainment to share interesting things, not for hire.

      I think in the space of a couple of days I've gone from "How do I even start doing this?" to "OMG there are so many different ways to go with this!"
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    1. Raise your prices.

    2. Pick a niche.

    3. Show that niche how you create value for them.

    4. Expect that writing for pay instead of free will now make writing a bit of a chore. Speaking from experience.

    5. Figure out ways to keep yourself motivated to write.


    But #1 is most important. And insist on 100% payment up front to get money off the table in anything but the most comfortable situation, so that you can concentrate on creating the best possible product for your client.

    As an example, I write technical articles for scientific and testing equipment firms. The value I create for my clients is high-octane SEO content that explains technical applications in an easy-to-understand way, and this drives targeted leads to them.

    It's a small part of my revenue, but I earn $100 for a 600-word article. I'm probably still underpaid. One of my clients just sent me a request for 6 X 50 word articles for $200. These aren't big totals to me, but for those who struggle pounding out articles for $5 they sure are. My reaction is actually "Oh no. When am I going to fit these in? Ugh." The motivation for me is in learning about the equipment and its applications.

    Got the original client by answering a craigslist ad. The first writer they had made a dog's breakfast of it, and then they came to me. That was over two years ago. Loads of repeat business and I don't have to do a thing to attract it. But first, I raised my prices. I wouldn't work for under $30/hr. Then I picked the niche. Technical and gourmet food/wine items only. I really don't want to write about anything else. Then I determined the "pain points" for those fields. Got some marketing out there and pursued some leads, and presto--more good-paying writing work than I honestly care to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
      Originally Posted by kaniganj View Post

      1. Raise your prices.

      2. Pick a niche.

      3. Show that niche how you create value for them.

      4. Expect that writing for pay instead of free will now make writing a bit of a chore. Speaking from experience.

      5. Figure out ways to keep yourself motivated to write.


      But #1 is most important. And insist on 100% payment up front to get money off the table in anything but the most comfortable situation, so that you can concentrate on creating the best possible product for your client.

      As an example, I write technical articles for scientific and testing equipment firms. The value I create for my clients is high-octane SEO content that explains technical applications in an easy-to-understand way, and this drives targeted leads to them.

      It's a small part of my revenue, but I earn $100 for a 600-word article. I'm probably still underpaid. One of my clients just sent me a request for 6 X 50 word articles for $200. These aren't big totals to me, but for those who struggle pounding out articles for $5 they sure are. My reaction is actually "Oh no. When am I going to fit these in? Ugh." The motivation for me is in learning about the equipment and its applications.

      Got the original client by answering a craigslist ad. The first writer they had made a dog's breakfast of it, and then they came to me. That was over two years ago. Loads of repeat business and I don't have to do a thing to attract it. But first, I raised my prices. I wouldn't work for under $30/hr. Then I picked the niche. Technical and gourmet food/wine items only. I really don't want to write about anything else. Then I determined the "pain points" for those fields. Got some marketing out there and pursued some leads, and presto--more good-paying writing work than I honestly care to do.
      This is really good stuff - thank you so much. Frankly I think that 100 for a 600 word article is a LOT! I've just written 5 of those this week for less than $3 each! :p

      Congratulations on your success - you obviously produce a quality product that keeps the client coming back.
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  • Profile picture of the author zuberr
    Is it not possible that you contact some tech mags to write as a freelancer?

    If not, contact some popular tech blogs, guest posts a few articles, if they like what
    you write, ask them to hire you.

    In fact, there are so many works a writer can find work at decent pay.

    I wish you all the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I would also suggest running a "Warrior for Hire" ad in this forum. Then link to it from your signature. Writing for others is a good way to bring in money while you work on your own books and blogs.

    Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author JerryKuzma
    I agree that there is a LOT of great advice here already. But I will throw this into the mix...

    There is a difference between these two things:
    1. what you do to get some cash into your hands in the short-term, and
    2. the long-term goal--your desired business model--that you want to aim for.

    It may take some time to narrow down your desired business, but the best advice I can give is to do no.1 as much as you need to, AS LONG AS YOU ARE MOVING TOWARDS NO.2.

    Be encouraged....good writers will always have a place--you just need to carve out your place....

    All the best,

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  • Profile picture of the author Kristen Brooks
    I am learning about the same thing (I am also an Earthy-type Mom who writes!) and I am finding there are lots of ways to write and earn online.

    Check out:

    www.freelancer.com
    There is whole section on writing - copywriting, ghostwriting, blogging, etc - in which you can bid on jobs. Bid low at first to build reputation.

    SBI - This has been my training ground for learning (the slow way) of how to build niche sites by creating content that can someday incorporate affiliate links.

    Start a blog so people can find you, market yourself with social media, and call yourself something catchy that shows that you are available for hire to write.

    Develop a niche - do you write sales page copy? Fiction? Articles?

    Also check out writing eBooks and PLR eBooks that you can sell yourself.

    Best of luck! There is a ton out there!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marx Vergel Melencio
    Hi,

    Hope these motivate you:

    Jon Morrow

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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      I don't know if that motivated him but it sure motivated me. wow, that is a great video. I love reading these posts on this site!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
    Since I haven't seen it recommended yet, Constant Content is a fantastic website for making money. Judging by the style and quality of your posts, I think your articles will be just fine, though expect a few rejections at first.

    I've got an ebook on how to succeed with CC that I keep meaning to sell, but I still haven't put up anywhere. Silly me. :rolleyes: PM me and I'll send it for free.

    The short version: it isn't guaranteed money, but I have about a 1 in 2 shot of selling an article within a year after posting them on CC for non-request (any topic you like) articles, and about a 2 in 3 shot if it's for a request. The pay is significantly higher than most "article grind" sites, and though CC takes a 35% chunk, you set your own pricing. I set mine so I make somewhere around my usual rate per word, and the customer pays for the extra 35% cut (for hiring me through CC and getting the editor service, plagiarism checker, uniqueness guarantee, etc).

    I have a good feeling about you. With your prior writing experience and your determination, you'll do well.
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    • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
      Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post

      Since I haven't seen it recommended yet, Constant Content is a fantastic website for making money. Judging by the style and quality of your posts, I think your articles will be just fine, though expect a few rejections at first.

      I've got an ebook on how to succeed with CC that I keep meaning to sell, but I still haven't put up anywhere. Silly me. :rolleyes: PM me and I'll send it for free.

      The short version: it isn't guaranteed money, but I have about a 1 in 2 shot of selling an article within a year after posting them on CC for non-request (any topic you like) articles, and about a 2 in 3 shot if it's for a request. The pay is significantly higher than most "article grind" sites, and though CC takes a 35% chunk, you set your own pricing. I set mine so I make somewhere around my usual rate per word, and the customer pays for the extra 35% cut (for hiring me through CC and getting the editor service, plagiarism checker, uniqueness guarantee, etc).

      I have a good feeling about you. With your prior writing experience and your determination, you'll do well.
      The bold is the reason why I never bothered with CC. After reading the forum + looking at the "approved" articles, didn't seem worth all the hassle.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
        Originally Posted by absoluteallen View Post

        The bold is the reason why I never bothered with CC. After reading the forum + looking at the "approved" articles, didn't seem worth all the hassle.
        There's a huge "difficulty myth" surrounding CC, mainly perpetuated by people who just plain can't write. To them, it feels unfair and anal-retentive and silly. But if you're a decent writer, it's really not that hard to have your articles approved, especially once you get used to their style requirements. I get about one rejection for twenty submitted nowadays.
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        • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
          The criticisms on the grind mill sites are astonishing. I have heard micro critique on my tone or exact grammar, etc., for a 300 word article that paid $1.65! Really? If you get one that is in English, that makes sense and is readable, that follows all of your instructions including all of the keywords the correct number of times, doesn't that make for a 5 star ONE dollar and sixty-five cent article?

          This adventure into the mills has been very interesting, to say the least. I will never read a website or blog posting again without skepticism.

          Another thing I'm noticing is the requestors who cannot speak/write English but insist the writers do. I just read an article request that insists the EXACT keywords need to be used a certain number of times and stresses EXACT spelling and EXACT keyword used. The keyword phrase was "women leather vest" Since the keyword itself is not correct English, it's very difficult to work it in (especially organically!)

          I guess I have the feeling that I should be thanked for devoting my time to their cause and making almost nothing in return. To be criticized for the effort is tough!

          There are many different paths and I thank all in this thread who pointed me to them. It takes time and energy to go down each one and find out what is there! I'm wandering down several different ones at the moment.
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          • Profile picture of the author fin
            Originally Posted by earthmom22 View Post

            The criticisms on the grind mill sites are astonishing. I have heard micro critique on my tone or exact grammar, etc., for a 300 word article that paid $1.65! Really? If you get one that is in English, that makes sense and is readable, that follows all of your instructions including all of the keywords the correct number of times, doesn't that make for a 5 star ONE dollar and sixty-five cent article?

            This adventure into the mills has been very interesting, to say the least. I will never read a website or blog posting again without skepticism.

            Another thing I'm noticing is the requestors who cannot speak/write English but insist the writers do. I just read an article request that insists the EXACT keywords need to be used a certain number of times and stresses EXACT spelling and EXACT keyword used. The keyword phrase was "women leather vest" Since the keyword itself is not correct English, it's very difficult to work it in (especially organically!)

            I guess I have the feeling that I should be thanked for devoting my time to their cause and making almost nothing in return. To be criticized for the effort is tough!

            There are many different paths and I thank all in this thread who pointed me to them. It takes time and energy to go down each one and find out what is there! I'm wandering down several different ones at the moment.
            If you write for textbroker you automatically get put up to a higher level if you write a good sample.

            Much more than Iwriter.
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            • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
              Thanks Fin. I joined Textbroker also and have 3 accepted articles there so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
      Well that didn't work - it says I don't have enough posts to be allowed to send a PM!

      I hope you see this here, Zabrina. If not I'll post some more and work up to the PM threshold!


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      Hi Zabrina,

      I would love your ebook about Constant Content writing success! If you send it along I will find a way to repay you somehow!

      Thank you for such kind and encouraging words. They mean a lot. As we know, to some people words are just words but to some of us (writers) they're more important than that. Yours are appreciated.

      :> earthmom (Linda)
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  • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
    Can you write fiction? If so PM me, I'm looking for ghostwriters.
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    • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
      Apparently I can't PM you yet, Billy. I will go post around the site some and try again later. Or you can email me through my website. It's earthmombooks
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  • Profile picture of the author usmantech
    I think you can write at Freelancer. If you earn some good reviews, you might start to charge more. But initially it is a steep walk upwards. Personal Experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author fluffythewondercat
      How would you feel about your work being edited?

      I've hired many freelancers at a little over 3 cents a word but few stick with me for very long. They don't say so, but I've gotten the impression they didn't like their article being changed.

      The problem is that most people are writing straight copy and I need to punch it up with some jokes or edit for flow. (You know, that annoying woman who does the Progressive commercials.)

      When I write for pay, I honestly don't care what they do with it as long as they pay me. If you feel the same way, you can contact me through the Best of Fiverr blog.

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  • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
    I am human so my first reaction is that anything I write is, of course, PERFECT and the BEST THING ANYONE HAS EVER READ But I get over that quickly.

    I believe there are times to feel your work should not be changed, like when you're giving your opinion and writing as yourself for a purpose. And there are times when you've hired out to put the words together and they can do whatever they like with them after you're done.
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  • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
    I haven't done an ad yet, despite many who have suggested it. I realize it's too soon. I don't know exactly what I offer or how to present myself. For that reason I've been getting back into this by practicing. The article sites, reviews, blog posts, etc. It's frustrating because I want to earn more for my time but it's also rewarding as I'm forcing myself to be a bit more disciplined and practice being more succinct. I tend to use too many words to say something simple.

    James, I share the love of that Yoda quote. And I've been feeling a bit desperate but that's not good energy. I will do this but it has to be a step at a time, not a leap and just forget all the details.

    I don't know if anyone else can benefit from that reminder but today I will do, and I will do as much as I can do. And tomorrow I will do more.
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  • Profile picture of the author earthmom22
    UPDATE!
    There is so much info here and I'm reading reading learning learning (Thank You All!). In the meantime I am happy to say that FluffytheWonderCat has pounced upon me and I'm happily writing for her at Fiverr Reviews : Best of Fiverr.com : Fiverr for Small Business

    I don't know the best way to include samples here, or if that's even allowed but here goes:

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    It’s a bird … it’s a plane .. it’s ME! In a comic!

    May 21


    By Linda Jones, aka EarthMom

    My dreams are finally coming true. Not the part about the Jetsons’ flying car maybe, but my other dream of starring in my own comic is real thanks to mr_47!

    Mr_47 likes to draw comics and people like to read comics. Remember the other day when you walked into work and saw your boss bending over the water fountain, spraying the front of his pants all the while, and then straightening to see the Big Boss coming toward him? You may have been the only one who witnessed his high-pitched squeal as he darted in the opposite direction, but why let that go to waste? Have mr_47 make it into a cartoon so the entire office can enjoy it over and over again.

    He will also draw a caricature of you. Probably not of YOU (that nose is adorable, really. Don’t let anybody tell you different. It has character.) but let’s think, what ex- would be delightful if made into a caricature? It’s exactly the right touch for your “Just Divorced” announcements that you’re having printed up. Martha Stewart would give you a “Like.”

    Mr_47 is a student, and clearly a talented one, at the Milwaukee Institute of Art and Design. He does serious photo restoration work (and offers that gig on Fiverr as well) but I bet he has way more fun with the comics and caricatures.

    See ya in the funny pages!


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    Also the article from May 23 - "She's the Nyquil of Fiverr" at www.bestoffiverr.com and a couple in the works.

    If you like what you read and are interested in friendly (possibly funny) writing, please let me know as I need work!

    I still cannot PM yet but please post here or find my site - earthmombooks.com (there is a Contact link under the top graphic)

    Onward and Upward! or Write On!
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    I'd like to remind folks that although I appreciate the Private Messages, I cannot send any back (yet)! It's tough to be the New Kid!
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