Frustrated, and can't seem to find success.

15 years ago

if you have tried other peoples products then why not sit down with a cup of coffee and try to think what type of things you have done in your life workwise hobbie wise is there any type of niche market in any of them and than go mad write an ebook on it make a audio book the ideas are in there thousands find forums that have somthing to do with that topic and get friendly then start trying to plug your product its all out there just go grab it!!!! Good Luck

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Jenni Mac 15 years ago

What you speak of happens to a lot of us, I understand fully what you're going through because up until a few months ago I was there too.

What I had to do was to stop buying stuff I didn't really need and I had to sit down and find a plan that I could work. I worked the balls off that plan and nothing else until I started to earn some money.

It took me the best part of nine months to get desperate enough to stop and think, but I did it.

Get a free website up - blogger or a lens. Find a couple of affiliate products from Clickbank. Write a ton of articles and submit them to Ezinearticles (don't forget keyword research!!!). Keep doing that without fail for 30 days and you will make some money.

Then get a domain name, get some hosting and do it all over again and keep on building.

There are so pretty crucial steps in between these main steps like backlinking etc, but you can ask about those steps when you get up and running.

Just start now! At this point, it's free!!!

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rafaelapolinario 15 years ago

Whatever you are going through there will always be someone who's suffering much much more. Just think of it as a passing cloud in your life. Well, I think what I just said sounds like a load of crap.

Here: Try to consider things you feel like doing, be an expert on that field, and work hard to achieve your goals. If you want to succeed in IM then do what you gotta do. Learn as much as you can. Here. You came on the right place. Warrior is my best resource as always and the big G.

Good luck, man.
Hope your wife gets better soon.

God bless,

Rafael
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CashResolution

15 years ago

I guess that is my main problem. I have 4 dif websites but no traffic. I understand about key word, and backlinks, and all the goodies...but there is a draw back. I have never done article marketing, and I think that is my main problem. I did outsource most of my seo progress for my cash gifting website, but all they did was spam the message forums and bookmarking communitites. I was not satisfied at all. I think what I need to do is find some GOOD article writing software. Then I guess I could begin....seeing success.

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dwshoup

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CashResolution

I guess that is my main problem. I have 4 dif websites but no traffic. I understand about key word, and backlinks, and all the goodies...but there is a draw back. I have never done article marketing, and I think that is my main problem. I did outsource most of my seo progress for my cash gifting website, but all they did was spam the message forums and bookmarking communitites. I was not satisfied at all. I think what I need to do is find some GOOD article writing software. Then I guess I could begin....seeing success.

Cash if you look into a niche that you know about,you don't need article writing software, you just need to write.

Just think about what you look for when you are searching for info and provide it. I think you touched on it in the OP.

Take some action. Sit down at your computer and start writing.

Good luck.

David

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Droopy Dawg

15 years ago

Cash,

I used to write articles until I came to the conclusion that I hated everything about writing them... its just my own personal feeling... I envy those that can sit down and crank out a 300-word masterpiece in 10 minutes (my older brother does this and I hate him

)

I've started outsourcing my article writing... its worked out pretty good. You can find some real good writers here at WF.

You doin't need software to write them for you just pay someone to wirte them. Use PLR articles (google "free plr articles) to submit to the other directories, and make sure you link to your sites.

DeShon

Originally Posted by CashResolution

I guess that is my main problem. I have 4 dif websites but no traffic. I understand about key word, and backlinks, and all the goodies...but there is a draw back. I have never done article marketing, and I think that is my main problem. I did outsource most of my seo progress for my cash gifting website, but all they did was spam the message forums and bookmarking communitites. I was not satisfied at all. I think what I need to do is find some GOOD article writing software. Then I guess I could begin....seeing success.

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helenaja

15 years ago

OMG Cash!!!

I really was trying to post the same message yesterday, but was having trouble with my connection.

I also would like to find something that really does work. I've had success in the past with real estate, but after 3 years of IM I'm still trying to taste a bit of success. If anyone out there has something that can show real success without losing time or your shirt, I'm listening.
Thanks everyone!

Good luck to you too Cash!!!

Helena

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penab 15 years ago

I am feeling the same way as well! Sometimes the weight of all our financial obligations causes us to think emotionally rather than practically. I just found last night that I was typing articles almost desperately, hoping this would get me a sale.

I have spent so much time reading this and that, buying different ebooks, etc and not focusing on one thing. That is now my goal. Stay focused....do just one thing, no dabbling in this or dabbling in that.

My mind has started spinning with ideas for ebooks, etc. I just need to get focused and get them started and finished.

Best of Luck to all of you!
Barb
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Corwinnx 15 years ago

CashResolution,
My own personal belief, which serves me well, is you need to pick a 'theme' for your site, and monetize every square inch of it. For example, I have blogs, probably close to 25 of them. On each one, I have several 'sources of income'

*list building system
*my own product
*Adsense
*Affiliate Products
*CPA offers

Once I have the blog set up, THEN, I start generating traffic by submitting articles. I submit one or two completely original, keyword optimized articles to eza, then I use PLR to submit to a few other secret article directories that publish immediately and let me put links in the article.

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Loren Woirhaye

15 years ago

I see a couple of people here who seem to want to have freedom
and a new career working from home but are confused about how
to get there.

There is no one opportunity or method. There are principles however.

This article-marketing and SEO stuff you write about here is slow
and painstaking work. Really if you want to have success and
a business with leverage those things should be part, but the
fundamental thing is to be able to run paid advertising and make
money from it.

Get out of the idea that IM is all about free advertising. It's
about converting visitors to customers. That's it. When you
have copywriting and an offer that converts browsers to buyers
you win. Some offers will never be profitable, some need tweaking
to work.

The magic formula to success is to get a skill people value and
advertise your ability to help them.

Most other things are just shooting in the dark. I'm making
really large generalizations here of course. You have to decide
if you just want the money and lifestyle or if you are going
to be PASSIONATE about finding needs and filling them for
people. I see strong motivations here, and good, sincere
people - but not much focus.

You really need to focus on a business that will work, not
the methods and gimmicks that people in IM write about. It's
not just traffic-getting, it's getting a compelling message
through to people. If you don't have that the traffic won't
do you much good at all.

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Jason Cunningham

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

I see a couple of people here who seem to want to have freedom
and a new career working from home but are confused about how
to get there.

There is no one opportunity or method. There are principles however.

This article-marketing and SEO stuff you write about here is slow
and painstaking work. Really if you want to have success and
a business with leverage those things should be part, but the
fundamental thing is to be able to run paid advertising and make
money from it.

Get out of the idea that IM is all about free advertising. It's
about converting visitors to customers. That's it. When you
have copywriting and an offer that converts browsers to buyers
you win. Some offers will never be profitable, some need tweaking
to work.

The magic formula to success is to get a skill people value and
advertise your ability to help them.

Most other things are just shooting in the dark. I'm making
really large generalizations here of course. You have to decide
if you just want the money and lifestyle or if you are going
to be PASSIONATE about finding needs and filling them for
people. I see strong motivations here, and good, sincere
people - but not much focus.

You really need to focus on a business that will work, not
the methods and gimmicks that people in IM write about. It's
not just traffic-getting, it's getting a compelling message
through to people. If you don't have that the traffic won't
do you much good at all.

Great advice here, sums up a few of my experiences with article/niche marketing. Key point for me is in bold.

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Sandor Verebi 15 years ago

Hi Cash,

I'm second on what David advices: "...you don't need article writing software, you just need to write."

I say this because of the so-called article writing softwares aren't perfect, your thoughts and your feelings are not given back faithfully, what your readers would expect. So you would not be successful with them.

Instead of them, chose themes in with you are familiarized: your friends, works, hobbies, skills, music, sports, travels, etc. a part your life or whatever in which you have interest. What the man touched onto he can write it down in that way that let it be interesting for other ones.

Good luck.

Sandor
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a2dsilva

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

I see a couple of people here who seem to want to have freedom
and a new career working from home but are confused about how
to get there.

There is no one opportunity or method. There are principles however.

This article-marketing and SEO stuff you write about here is slow
and painstaking work. Really if you want to have success and
a business with leverage those things should be part, but the
fundamental thing is to be able to run paid advertising and make
money from it.

Get out of the idea that IM is all about free advertising. It's
about converting visitors to customers. That's it. When you
have copywriting and an offer that converts browsers to buyers
you win. Some offers will never be profitable, some need tweaking
to work.

The magic formula to success is to get a skill people value and
advertise your ability to help them.

Most other things are just shooting in the dark. I'm making
really large generalizations here of course. You have to decide
if you just want the money and lifestyle or if you are going
to be PASSIONATE about finding needs and filling them for
people. I see strong motivations here, and good, sincere
people - but not much focus.

You really need to focus on a business that will work, not
the methods and gimmicks that people in IM write about. It's
not just traffic-getting, it's getting a compelling message
through to people. If you don't have that the traffic won't
do you much good at all.

I have to agree with Loren.

IM is not a magic bullet to money and success. I too started out with this "dream". It is work. Any IM that tells you they have everything completely hands-off on autopilot is selling you a dream. Successful IMs are still putting in full hour days...

I'm sure by now you have basic IM knowledge - enough to speak about it. Have you considered Offline Gold - search the forum.

I think it's a good business model. You will have to bank on your people skills and your communication skills, but guess what - you already have that. Leverage it.

If you spend an hour a day reading these forums you'll have more knowledge of IM tha most Offline Businesses - that makes you marketable.

Now, the next problem you're probably thinking - I don't know "how to do" all this IM stuff "myself". Well if you're doing all the talking to business owners and bringing in the business then you outsource it to "specialists" to do the work. David Preston has an offer at the back of his Offline ebook to accomplish this at really good rates.

You'll make money faster this way than trying to convince people on the Internet to purchase from your articles/blogs. Actually, one way to convince people to buy from you than other affiliates is to create a unique "Complimentary Bonus" which makes your offer irresitable.

Anyways, all the whining will not improve things for you unless you take some action. I know it's scary at first but trust me after you repeat the correct action a few times (as little as 3 times) you'll find it's soooo easy..

I know 'cos I'm doing the Offline thing. I had a lot of gaps in my IM knowledge so I took an hour to list all the gaps I had e.g.

1. How to Get on the first page of Google
2. How to identify keywords to help an Offline Biz Owner to rank highly for
3. How to indroduce my services to a Biz owner
4. How to quickly setup a wordpress Blog
5. How to quickly upload a template to the Wordpress Blog
6. Must needed SEO plugins for Wordpress
7. How to get maximum exposure to a Wordspress Blog
8. etc..
9. etc...

Now go make your own list. And a plan on how to get the knowledge to close those gaps. That will raise your confidence.

At the same time have a PLAN. Is it going to be online or offline? IM is a method and a means to an end.

Ask yourself how can I transfer this knowledge so that people will pay me for it.

ad Silva

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Jonathan Ferraro 15 years ago

Hi CashResolution,

I can certainly empathize with your situation. I think every single person in this forum has gone through what you are going through right now (business wise, not personal).

The beginning stages of a career in IM absolutely suck! Personally, I was incredibly anxious, when i was first starting out. All you hear left and right is how people were making 5 figures every month by doing this and that. It was just so overwhelming.

With the obvious exception of the warrior forum, IM is not newbie friendly at all. There are growing pains involved.

I'm a firm believer in starting slow, getting your feet wet, and learning the ropes.

While PPC is great, I don't think that's the way most newbies should start with IM.

It's the kind of thing that is great if it works, but when it doesn't......whoa boy!! It can really leave a sour taste in your mouth, and make you want to quit altogether.

I agree with some of the other posters. Article writing is the way to go. Use all your free resources that you can (especially if money is a little tight). Ezine articles, squidoo, hubpages, blogger. You don't need to spend money on software. All you have to do is write.

Believe me, when I first started, I HATED writing, but after a while it becomes part of your day.

It's not like you have to be an expert on anything. The internet is full of information. All you have to do is a little research, find some articles, and put them in your own words.

It's a lot easier than you think. All you have to do is try.
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Owen Mailer

15 years ago

these all sound about right go get that coffe take five stand at the start line and focus on the finish and you r there in no time!!!

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nicholl08

15 years ago

Cashresolution, if you want some free advice you can message me on MSN at uwochris at hotmail.com. I'd be happy to hear more about what you're doing and provide some thoughts.

I don't sell any coaching, or have any pitch to give you about any service.. but I have been doing this for about 6 months now, with what I think is a unique model, and there is money to be made.

I wrote a Warriorforum post a couple days ago about a couple problems I think most people have with IM. You can search for it if you want more info about my opinions.

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Jenni Mac

15 years ago

Originally Posted by wjisitt

i too have been having the same problems - recently lost job and have mortgage so have to get money fast - have written articles and squidoo lenses all of which i have not yet made a cent. keep researching and unsure what niches to target and how to

You target where the money is! Where they're already buying!

I used to be scared of high gravity on Clickbank products until someone told me that at least you know there's traffic there and they're buying. Go for the obvious markets, yes there's hefty competition, but there's always a little under belly of a market that you can find an in into and then you exploit the hell out of it.

Go work them long tails and stand in front of the traffic!

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Sticky Articles 15 years ago

Definitely keep your job. I think your issue is that you're looking for those
make money quick opportunities as opposed to something that is
a long term strategy. I've been through the same road.

Do what you can with your finances and work on the IM thing with
your spare time.
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Saul

15 years ago

not sure it will help but here's my experience.
mmh... I was writing a novel almost... here's the short version

I started studying webmarketing in 1998, did a ton of different things until I learned
that webmarketing and MARKETING are two very different animals, and it's MARKETING
that helped me the most.

I applied marketing principles to improve my job offline and I've moved from being an
unqualified carpenter, from job to job, working hard on my interviews and even harder
to prove what a good employee I was, to managing the call center for an international
scooter producer (anyone knows the Vespa??

)

I carried on "playing" online, working on my websites as a hobby, but I can tell you I've
made more money by working harder on my offline professional profile than I ever did
online. In fact, just this week, by sheer chance, I've made more money (600 dollars)
by selling 1 domain than I ever done in all my online "business"!

Sure persistence is a good thing, great advice, hang on, try harder and all that stuff,
but really... really really... not everyone is cut for online marketing. Surely not everyone
is cut for the cut-throat, technologically constanly evolving, "make money online" arena.

Maybe the other niches are easier... the ones without (or with very little) competition.
But good luck finding them - again you have to study all the ways and tools needed to
identify them (keyword analysis etc).

I don't mean to kill anyone's enthusiasm for working online, don't get me wrong: people
ARE getting rich online, even during this very difficult economic period. Just on this
forum I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of people making just as much money as last
year - if not more! (how many more people without a job are looking for a way to make
money online??)

But not everyone has what it takes to make money online. I don't. So I started working
harder offline and now I have a better job, and a LOT less stress and frustration from
online failures.

So all my failed online experiences were very helpful to teach me how to focus more on
my offline world. It's a shame I've spent so much (both in terms of money and time) on
ebooks and software that I never got round to using... I was ADDICTED to internet
marketing (those salescopy are written so well that it actually makes you feel good
to buy all that stuff) and I was drowning in MASSIVE information overload.

JUST SAY NO: don't buy any more ebooks and software until you've actually read and
used all you have. Most tactics are very short term and don't work for long. Study more
"classic marketing" and apply those principles offline as well as online.

but that is my own experience, everyone is different and certainly everyone's situation
is different. If you really need to make money online and there's no other way to
make it offline, go ahead and work hard on it. Follow the advice you'll find on these
forums but always make sure to avoid buying stuff you don't really need (and most
ebooks and software I can assure aren't necessary...).

Write a big sign and put it next to your computer: AVOID INFORMATION OVERLOAD.

Internet marketing is a dangerously "borderline" business - it's so easy to spend more
than you're making... and that's obviously not good!

well... I deleted a long post and wrote an even longer one... lol, sorry about that... but
I feel it's important to voice a different opinion: everyone and their sister will tell you to
keep trying, persistence and all that. I don't know you and I don't know if you will make
money online. Maybe it's better, maybe easier, to make it offline, depending on your
local situation.

Best wishes and Good luck!
Saul

Ps. I hope this isn't a "downer" for too many people... I don't mean to rain on anyone's
parade... but I bought literally (really) hundreds and hundreds of ebooks and software,
and I ended increasing my income by changing jobs offline - and now I have a great job.
So... take the lesson you prefer from my experience

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keyaziz 15 years ago

I would write a business plan.

There are good templates you can find online. Do it just like you would if it was an offline one.

Get the plan down (you can also see figures which will get you excited) and start working on it.

Pick something you enjoy and are passionate about that has a hungry audience. If you are passionate you will want to give your customers great value and great information.

If you can outsource I would outsource some of the stuff on the plan - especially when first setting up - like web design, branding etc.

Just write the plan..get everything you need to do down and work through that.
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Clark

15 years ago

Read this article by Seth Godin:

Seth's Blog: Get rich quick

...and when I say read it, I mean absorb it then change your mindset from being an opportunity seeker into a business builder for your family.

Here's the jist of his short article:

It seems that being an opportunity seeker is about seeking, not finding.

To your success!

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earlkohn

15 years ago

If you cannot find success through marketing a replicated website, then I would definitely consider writing your own ebook or creating your own program. Hope you find success man.

-Earl

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jblack

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CashResolution

I have been watching this forum for quite some time now. Been studying and seeing what is working and what is not. I know I have not been active but I really envy the post that I read in here. I am just so frustrated right now. I feel like the weight of the world is on my shoulder due to not being able to understand this IM stuff and not taking action. I've spent countless of dollars on things that I thought would get me out of this rat race of a job. Nothing has worked so far. I am really interested in learning IM and desperate right now because of my wife's recent medical problem that will not let her work for several months. I have 3 children, and I need to be able to provide for them better than I am now. I have done the mlm and cashgifting thing, but nothing seems to work. Any suggestions on where I should go now? Please help..

First of all....you are not the Lone Ranger. So don't feel bad. I am sorry to hear of your situation, but I have also been there.

Here is what I did to finally turn things around.

I spent some money on training. Then I took the training seriously. I worked on it everyday and I learned through the system how to drive traffic.

It souds like you have sites but you need traffic. After all without traffic you have nothing.

So find a training system so that you can start to learn from it.

You can do this! It just takes dedication. Don't give up!

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paully 15 years ago

I would have to say to agree with Loren that lack of focus is one of the main causes for failure in online business. There are so many things to catch your attention when you are on the net that most are so hyped up. They suck you in. I believe once you have found a good business and stick to it without being detoured. Then you may reach your goals.

But first you have to set goals. Then have a plan of action to reach them. Short term, and long term. Then take baby steps to success.
Doing one thing each day consistantly will bring you better results than trying to do everything at once.

Most believe they will get going very quickly.
I have heard of and spoke with many people that took years to reach some success. For one person it was 14 years.
Jonathan Bud, a now successful networker spent 2 years hardly ever leaving his house, learning to be successful. Your not alone as you have seen in the other posts.

Don't Give Up.
You will find the most successful people have also overcome the most failures to get there.

Find the appropriate training and find your niche or opportunity and stick with it.
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  I know what you mean because I am there too. I have found some mlm stuff that can work and some mlm systems that have great training that will work too. Lust dont give up and you will find success. Hang in there
  
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  I love when people post about how they can't find success at this and need help, yet their sigs claim to have all the answers.
  
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swayman

15 years ago

a lot of people in your situation just give up, so you need to stay focus and believe in your dreams, I'm sure that everything will turn up fine.

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jasonl70

15 years ago

I have done the mlm and cashgifting thing, but nothing seems to work

Some people do not like to hear this, but opportunites are not joined - they are created.

Several different approaches to successfull IM are discussed daily around here - pick one and get cracking

You already have identified "not taking action" as something you are struggling with. Think about this.. I see people chase after the latest scheme's, and joining the latest 'opportunities' one after the other. They are looking for the quick and easy money, and before they realize it a year has passed and they have nothing to show for it.

Now, what if they had taken a more 'long term' approach from the start?

What would they have to show for their efforts after a year? I would wager that they would most likley have a nice and growing income. In my case, I have built several lists, some of them with over 10,000 opt-ins. I sent an offer to one yesterday, and made an extra $1500 on top of the $2,000 I usually make from it each month (and that is just one of my lists/niches).. I have these lists because I was willing to concentrate on longer term strategies.

This is why I have avoided the IM niche

What people want to hear, and what they need to hear are usually 2 very different things.

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