Why aren't more people using Shutterstock?

Mark Bradley

12 years ago

Looks like a promotional post with an affiliate link?

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rhealy29

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Bradley

Looks like a promotional post with an affiliate link?

Did you even bother to hover over the link? There is no affiliate code. It's a clean, straight link to their subscription options page.

Please at least take the half a second necessary to examine the link URL before taking 40 seconds to write a post accusing someone of breaking forum rules.

I'm just trying to bring attention to something some people might not be aware of that could save them headaches in the long run.

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Blimeyoreilly

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rhealy29

Did you even bother to hover over the link? There is no affiliate code. It's a clean, straight link to their subscription options page.

Please at least take the half a second necessary to examine the link URL before taking 40 seconds to write a post accusing someone of breaking forum rules.

I'm just trying to bring attention to something some people might not be aware of that could save them headaches in the long run.

...& all Mark is doing is telling you what this thread looks like.

Anyway, by reading this thread it does actually sound like you are promoting this photoshop site & that being said, IMers know how to proof read, so why would they stick around to to play at detective especially if like me they aren't interested in spending hundreds for pics that cost peanuts to create.

I personally think spending hundreds of $s a month on some photo/image store is totally insane... but hey! we are all entitled to our opinion.

Each to their own as they say.

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Thomas Michal

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Blimeyoreilly

I personally think spending hundreds of a month on some photo/image store is totally insane... but hey! we are all entitled to our opinion.

Really?

For one shutterstock is a very well known site and for professional pictures $250 is CHEAP! I know photographers that charge over $500 per hour.

But yeah... you're totally right stealing other peoples work from google images and infringing on copyrights is such a better way of running a business.

I agree with the OP, even if it's not shutterstock there are numbers of other sites out there people should be using.

Running and growing your business ethically is what separates professionals from the rest.

When I land on a site that has spammy watermarked photos I clearly know they aren't making money with their business because they can't even afford to drop $250 to get some photos for their site...

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Blimeyoreilly

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Michal

Really?

For one shutterstock is a very well known site and for professional pictures $250 is CHEAP! I know photographers that charge over $500 per hour.

But yeah... you're totally right stealing other peoples work from google images and infringing on copyrights is such a better way of running a business.

I agree with the OP, even if it's not shutterstock there are numbers of other sites out there people should be using.

Running and growing your business ethically is what separates professionals from the rest.

When I land on a site that has spammy watermarked photos I clearly know they aren't making money with their business because they can't even afford to drop $250 to get some photos for their site...

I didn't say anything about stealing other people's images mister.
Personally I use stock.xchng
I also have a polish photographer I can turn to for any photo design (free).
If you pay that much for photos that's your business.
Don't insinuate I steal other's work!!!

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JohnMcCabe 12 years ago

It's simple math, really...

If you can plan your work and get 750 usable images in your month, that's less than 35 cents ($0.35) per image. Or three for a dollar, if you prefer.

Depending on your needs, it is possible to get high quality images for the price of an email - think "public relations office"...
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Mark Bradley

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rhealy29

Did you even bother to hover over the link? There is no affiliate code. It's a clean, straight link to their subscription options page.

Please at least take the half a second necessary to examine the link URL before taking 40 seconds to write a post accusing someone of breaking forum rules.

I'm just trying to bring attention to something some people might not be aware of that could save them headaches in the long run.

My bad,for which I apologise.

If you read my post again,then
you will see that I never made
an accusation,merely an observation...big difference.

Once again,my apologies to you.

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rhealy29

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Bradley

My bad,for which I apologise.

If you read my post again,then
you will see that I never made
an accusation,merely an observation...big difference.

Once again,my apologies to you.

My apologies as well! I was too quick to jump the gun and extrapolate what you actually wrote into what I assumed you meant!

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tami9191

9 years ago

Originally Posted by rhealy29

Did you even bother to hover over the link? There is no affiliate code. It's a clean, straight link to their subscription options page.

Please at least take the half a second necessary to examine the link URL before taking 40 seconds to write a post accusing someone of breaking forum rules.

I'm just trying to bring attention to something some people might not be aware of that could save them headaches in the long run.

No affiliate ID in that url. You're right. Why to open the link? Just move the mouse over the link to see the url!

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TheArticlePros

12 years ago

Looks like the OP is getting bashed here for asking a legitimate question. Gotta love the Warrior Forum sometimes.

I don't use Shutterstock for the simple reason that I started using iStockPhoto first and haven't found a reason to move away from it. That, and I forgot Shutterstock existed LOL. Have you compared the two to see which is better? Since you've reminded me, I'll take a look tonight and see what Shutterstock is like.

I personally like being able to load my account on iStockPhoto for $10 and get up to 10 pictures for that price. I don't like sinking $250 into anything at all....

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rhealy29

12 years ago

Originally Posted by JaRyCu

Looks like the OP is getting bashed here for asking a legitimate question. Gotta love the Warrior Forum sometimes.

I don't use Shutterstock for the simple reason that I started using iStockPhoto first and haven't found a reason to move away from it. That, and I forgot Shutterstock existed LOL. Have you compared the two to see which is better? Since you've reminded me, I'll take a look tonight and see what Shutterstock is like.

I personally like being able to load my account on iStockPhoto for $10 and get up to 10 pictures for that price. I don't like sinking $250 into anything at all....

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Yep. I've been reading this forum long enough to know how it is sometimes. Thanks for the defense.

Shutterstock, as far as I know, is owned by Istockphoto, and many of the same images can be found on both, but often a good bit cheaper on shutterstock for whatever reason.

You're right that loading up can be great for time-to-time image grabbing, I've done it that way myself too. However, in the long run, the cost of getting 750 images on istock piece by piece is much higher than through a subscription.

With a little foresight and targeting based on what niches you're in/plan to be in, a single month of shutterstock images (750) can keep you going almost indefinitely.

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

For $249, you can get a one month subscription that allows you to download 25 images a day under their standard license. That means with a single month membership you could download yourself a library of 750 high quality, high resolution royalty free images, which you then have standard rights to use.

I can download the same amount from a different site for only $4.95 per month plus can download even more just by referring new members.

Most people here aren't going to want to spend $249 per month on photos.

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rhealy29

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

I can download the same amount from a different site for only $4.95 per month plus can download even more just by referring new members.

Most people here aren't going to want to spend $249 per month on photos.

Can you post a link to the site? If the quality is there, that's a great deal, but all the really low cost sites I've checked out just couldn't come close to matching the quality or selection from shutterstock/istockphoto.

Again, I'm not suggesting people spend $249 PER MONTH on photos, I'm suggesting they may be able to spend $249 ONCE and potentially have enough images to last them for years and years.

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TheArticlePros

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

I can download the same amount from a different site for only $4.95 per month plus can download even more just by referring new members.

Most people here aren't going to want to spend $249 per month on photos.

Don't tease us here! Which site?

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Andyhenry

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

Most people here aren't going to want to spend $249 per month on photos.

Why not?

I charge $50 per image for my clients websites - why wouldn't you pay a few hundred bucks as a marketer to give yourself a massive amount of revenue potential?

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Why not?

I charge $50 per image for my clients websites - why wouldn't you pay a few hundred bucks as a marketer to give yourself a massive amount of revenue potential?

Andy, if you'll notice I wrote people HERE... lol. A large portion of the membership here is lucky to be making any money at all, from what I can tell.

The site I use is Kozzi. I'll post both my affiliate and a straight link for those who hate using affiliate links for some strange reason.

http://www.kozzi.com/

I can't say that they're as good as Shutterstock because I haven't used that site. I can say that for the price, I've found a ton of great photos and vector images to use.

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Andyhenry 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

Andy, if you'll notice I wrote people HERE... lol.

That's what I thought was weird - it's a marketing forum where people are looking for ways to make money.

Having access to on-tap high quality images offers LOTS of ways to make money.

But I do get your point.
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BudaBrit

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

Andy, if you'll notice I wrote people HERE... lol. A large portion of the membership here is lucky to be making any money at all, from what I can tell.

The site I use is Kozzi. I'll post both my affiliate and a straight link for those who hate using affiliate links for some strange reason.

Affiliate link

Non-affiliate link

I can't say that they're as good as Shutterstock because I haven't used that site. I can say that for the price, I've found a ton of great photos and vector images to use.

Wow, free! I think I may be signing up, and I'll use your affiliate

Thanks.

I tried to sell some photos to shutterstock once... I wasn't very successful, as none got accepted! But oh, well. As I'm not an IMer (yet, I may go into it in the future, perhaps), I don't really have use for hundreds of images, but having access to one or two select images that will not get me in trouble is great.

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valkerie

12 years ago

Free Images:

dreamstime.com (look in free image section)
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I've been using Stock Exchange for years, Dreamstime is something new I've found. When I could buy images for $1.99 to $10, I didn't mind paying for them. 3K a year for image access is a little pricey.

I do agree, that watermarked pictures are cheesey and lacks professionalism.

And, I found that most of the images I want to use are from Getty. Their prices for one image are astronomical. I stay away from celebrity niches for that reason.

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rhealy29

12 years ago

Originally Posted by valkerie

Free Images:

dreamstime.com (look in free image section)
sxc.hu

I've been using Stock Exchange for years, Dreamstime is something new I've found. When I could buy images for $1.99 to $10, I didn't mind paying for them. 3K a year for image access is a little pricey.

I do agree, that watermarked pictures are cheesey and lacks professionalism.

And, I found that most of the images I want to use are from Getty. Their prices for one image are astronomical. I stay away from celebrity niches for that reason.

I think this is where people are missing the value though. Again, you don't have to sign up for a whole year. You can sign up for a single month, for $249, and download 750 images in any and all available resolutions (downloading the same image in multiple sizes only counts as ONE download).

That's 33 cents per image! A hell of a lot cheaper than $1.99 to $10!!!

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SerenityEH 11 years ago

SS also has a pay as you go, $19 for 1, $49 for 5 etc. and you can google coupon code for discounts.
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Andyhenry

12 years ago

I love Shutterstock - been using it for years.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

I've never heard of it; and take all photos I use for my niche sites myself. I have no need for a service like this.

I'm wondering if the cost is really worth it. Never having bought stock photos myself, I don't have a good gauge on that.

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rhealy29

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

I've never heard of it; and take all photos I use for my niche sites myself. I have no need for a service like this.

I'm wondering if the cost is really worth it. Never having bought stock photos myself, I don't have a good gauge on that.

Hey Joe,
That's awesome. I've always wished I could do that but alas my camera is what you'd call garbage and my photography skills are even worse!

That being said, you might want to check out these sites, because if you're a talented photographer capable of shooting good stock quality photos, you can sign up to sell through these sites, and some people make a really pretty penny doing so.

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TheArticlePros

12 years ago

Thanks Tina. I just popped over to check it out and it looks like I'm leaving iStockPhoto when I drain my account this week. And I'll use your affiliate ID to register tonight as well.

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onSubie

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rhealy29

I'm still consistently amazed at how many people are doing this, especially when you can get your images, completely legit, from Shutterstock with their $249 one month subscription.

Seriously?

You can't figure out why people download from Google rather than pay $3,000 a year?

Mahlon

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Tina Golden 12 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

Seriously?

You can't figure out why people download from Google rather than pay $3,000 a year?

Mahlon

Of course he knows why. He just is amazed at how many stupid people there are. Use the wrong image and you'll pay a hell of a lot more than $3,000 per year. Just ask anyone that's been sued for copyright infringement on their photos.
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rhealy29 12 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

Seriously?

You can't figure out why people download from Google rather than pay $3,000 a year?

Mahlon

Once again for the umpteenth time for those that don't want to read, you can sign up for ONE month. That's a single payment of $249 that gets you 750 professional quality, royalty free images, with all waivers and releases taken care of, in massive resolution. Not $3000. $249.

All your image needs, potentially indefinitely for some, taken care of for one single payment of $249.

And once again, yes, I'm astounded people think this to be too much to pay.
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Ben Armstrong

12 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

Seriously?

You can't figure out why people download from Google rather than pay $3,000 a year?

Mahlon

I don't think he's suggesting you sign up for an entire year though. He's saying that a one month subscription will allow you to download 750 images. Assuming you can plan ahead and know what you need then that's pretty good value really.

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JohnMcCabe

12 years ago

Come on now, folks, let's be a bit more precise in our language...

Originally Posted by onSubie

You can't figure out why people download from Google rather than pay $3,000 a year?

You can't figure out why people use Google to steal rather than pay $3,000 a year?

Originally Posted by alfid

I think that might be a good idea if you are making lots and LOTS of money, but for most of us $500 is a lot for something we can just get for free.

I think that might be a good idea if you are making lots and LOTS of money, but for most of us $500 is a lot for something we can just steal.

Let's take this to an extreme - why would anyone actually pay for anything at a store when they can just shoplift it? I suppose there is the odd duck who looks forward to the body cavity search...

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Don Schenk

12 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Come on now, folks, let's be a bit more precise in our language...

You can't figure out why people use Google to steal rather than pay $3,000 a year?

I think that might be a good idea if you are making lots and LOTS of money, but for most of us $500 is a lot for something we can just steal.

Let's take this to an extreme - why would anyone actually pay for anything at a store when they can just shoplift it? I suppose there is the odd duck who looks forward to the body cavity search...

Exactly. And why pay for IM products when you can just steal them from warez sites, or buy an IM product, download it, and immediately refund?

I wonder how these guys feel when someone steals their IM products?

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DoubleOhDave 12 years ago

Some people download from Google Images out of pure ignorance and some do so with full knowledge of the consequences - but like smoking - they think "no one will know - it will happen to someone else" (being caught out).

People can get caught and often do - it's SO MUCH EASIER than you could ever imagine for a copyright holder to find out who is using his or her image than you could ever imagine! And so much more damaging for you if you are caught.

Why do people do it? Because not everyone can afford those "stock" sites - specially when they need quite a large number of images.

I always recommend the Public Domain - it's almost limitless and is free for any reason you can imagine with no threats of copyright owners suing you!
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alfid

12 years ago

I think that might be a good idea if you are making lots and LOTS of money, but for most of us $500 is a lot for something we can just get for free.

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roddyfonline

12 years ago

Ive just seen Kozzi | EXCLUSIVE FREE IMAGES | High-quality Photos and Illustrations., the cost is a no brainer.....cheap and quality images

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rhealy29

12 years ago

One thing to watch out for with the really low cost/free stock sites is that a lot of them don't require uploaders to have proper releases, and the burden is on the end user to ensure they have all the necessary permissions for any given image.

This won't be true for every image, but just something to watch out for.

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

Originally Posted by roddyfonline

Ive just seen Kozzi | EXCLUSIVE FREE IMAGES | High-quality Photos and Illustrations., the cost is a no brainer.....cheap and quality images

Yeah, back in post #16. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by rhealy29

One thing to watch out for with the really low cost/free stock sites is that a lot of them don't require uploaders to have proper releases, and the burden is on the end user to ensure they have all the necessary permissions for any given image.

This won't be true for every image, but just something to watch out for.

With Kozzi, unless they're lying to us that is, their images are done for their site and they have all model releases on file. They have a staff of photographers and graphics people so it's not just random people uploading their photos. I agree with you, though, if you use a site like that, I highly recommend not using photos of people.

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GuruGazette

12 years ago

Shutterstock and istock are actually big competitors. Istock is owned by Getty if I remember right, and SS bought BigStock a year or so ago. Photographers own the copyrights on their images so they often license them through multiple channels if they don't have an exclusivity agreement anywhere. I've sold through all of them for ~6 years and ShutterStock is my favorite. Dreamstime is a close second. SS seems to attract more high end clients.

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lingster

12 years ago

I've never heard of it until 249 to download some pitchers seems like an awful lot.
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GMT

12 years ago

Lot of free alternatives to shuttershocks overpriced images, that's why I personally don't use them, but whatever works for the person is the way to go.

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Robert Bleach

12 years ago

I'm currently using iStockphoto, but I'll give Kozzi a look, as well. I do wonder how iStockphoto would know whether a website bought its images or just stole them, as they have no idea what websites I put their photos on.

Of course, as a lawyer I'm a bit more cautious about copyright infringement than most. If I get a nasty e-mail challenging my use of the images, I know my butt is covered.

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Freedom66K

12 years ago

I use photodune now (part of envato). Inventory isn't as good but cheaper than istockphoto, especially for larger sizes.

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WeavingThoughts

11 years ago

Nobody mentioned this:

Nobody knows which 750 images one will need over the course of a year. You don't usually plan projects several years in advance.

So chances are that most images will go waste. You really need to take the subscription yearly to actually benefit from it and $250 a month is only doable for a 7 figure marketer.

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9 years ago

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Martin Salter

9 years ago

LOL, seems like this post was dug out of the archives (jumps from 2012 to 2015), but the same is still true now. Paying for images is the RIGHT thing to do. It amazes me how many Graphic Designers still try to work around the image issues, but ultimately, you should only use licensed content in your work.

The prices have changed too since this thread first appeared. $4.95 for images per month is no longer available on the site mentioned by Tina.

There are many great and free resources if you look around, but if you want to have a paid for solution where Royalty Free means just that, then it is worth checking out https://www.graphicstock.com/join/.

You pay $99 for the year with unlimited downloads. You get Vector, Illustrations and Photos included in the pricing.

The link is NOT an affiliate link, just sharing a resource I have found useful. The same company has audioblocks and videoblocks which I also use (again, $99 per year each).

Enjoy!

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koolphoto 9 years ago

This thread is why I don't license my work to online marketers. To many believe that they are entitled to get something for nothing. Yet, when it comes to their jobs, they want raises, health insurance, and retirement plans.
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MikeMizOne

9 years ago

Why pay something when you can get it for free? There are a multitude of websites that offer stock photos for free under the cc0 license. Here are some of my favorites:

Pixabay

Freeimages

morgueFile

Wikimedia

Magdeleine

Public Domain Archive

Kaboompics

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baotram 8 years ago

You can download cheap photo on shutterstock, istockphoto, fotolia, depositphotos by online reseller tools cheaper shutterstock
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Regional Warrior

8 years ago

This is a 3yr old thread please do not post let it die

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superowid

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Regional Warrior

This is a 3yr old thread please do not post let it die

You see now? I was not the guy who brought this thread up. I was trapped too before. I put my post here just to let you know. Now let this thread die.
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Originally Posted by Martin Salter

LOL, seems like this post was dug out of the archives (jumps from 2012 to 2015), but the same is still true now. Paying for images is the RIGHT thing to do. It amazes me how many Graphic Designers still try to work around the image issues, but ultimately, you should only use licensed content in your work.

The prices have changed too since this thread first appeared. $4.95 for images per month is no longer available on the site mentioned by Tina.

There are many great and free resources if you look around, but if you want to have a paid for solution where Royalty Free means just that, then it is worth checking out https://www.graphicstock.com/join/.

You pay $99 for the year with unlimited downloads. You get Vector, Illustrations and Photos included in the pricing.

The link is NOT an affiliate link, just sharing a resource I have found useful. The same company has audioblocks and videoblocks which I also use (again, $99 per year each).

Enjoy!

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art72

8 years ago

Why you ask?

Cause http://Pixabay.com has several quality images for free with 'commercial use' permissions.

Also, if you search the threads here, I'm sure you can find a few threads that list more 100% free images with, and without any attribution required.

3rd, cause if you provide proper attribution, many, many more photos are available on the web, and through public domains.

And lastly, cause I am too damn cheap to pay $249 for pics, and too honest to steal anything from Google or the likes. (and quite frankly, I am deathly afraid of judges, lawyers, and prison rapists, not my thang.)

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jonmoss

8 years ago

Originally Posted by art72

Why you ask?

Cause http://Pixabay.com has several quality images for free with 'commercial use' permissions.

Also, if you search the threads here, I'm sure you can find a few threads that list more 100% free images with, and without any attribution required.

3rd, cause if you provide proper attribution, many, many more photos are available on the web, and through public domains.

And lastly, cause I am too damn cheap to pay $249 for pics, and too honest to steal anything from Google or the likes. (and quite frankly, I am deathly afraid of judges, lawyers, and prison rapists, not my thang.)

I agree. Why pay so much money for images (despite their high quality) when you can download them from Pixabay for nothing? I have used a number of these - one of which was so stunning I sent them a donation (or 'bought them a cup of coffee'). I was happy to upload a dozen of my own images taken on holiday in Australia which I hope other Pixabay users will like and use on their own websites.

I've just run a quick Google for 'free high quality images' and found plenty of options so take a look and see what you can find.

Thanks

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jogunn

8 years ago

I would second the advice to stay away from photos with people included if you are using free image sharing sites. I think for most people they don't think about the risk and just scrape the image and post without thinking twice.