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Old 03-01-2009, 10:11 AM   #51
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Very good post, lots for new people to learn from on this one. Tommy, you are positioning yourself as quite the expert these days..well done.

I've got a few sites that do well, but my question is how do you have time to drive traffic to 200 sites? I struggle with a dozen.
Nathan, the truth is, and I think I kind of said it in the OP that all these websites AREN'T making me rich. I've had to go back and fix so many of them because of bad linking (not enough links or the wrong links), bad or no keyword research, etc. I am taking my time and working with these sites one at a time to get them all to where they should be. It will take a lot of time and patience. Eventually, we'll get there. I am just sharing my experiences before you guys get to the 200th mark the way I did! Oh, I should point out that some will have to go because I see that there are some duds that can't and shouldn't be fixed.

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Hi Tommy

I have a question about CTR.

My understanding is that if your CTR is too high then Google may see the site as MFA and penalise it as they do not like such sites.

Do you have a view, experience or data that supports this

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Awesome template! Thanks Tommy. Also to the Adsense naysayers I've one site with less than 120 pages that makes over $30 a day and I haven't touched it for 6 months. It's a matter of testing/tweaking ads and link building. Works like a charm.

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I have a question about CTR.

My understanding is that if your CTR is too high then Google may see the site as MFA and penalise it as they do not like such sites.

Do you have a view, experience or data that supports this

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I have had sites spike up to 100% CTR without any penalty. However, just make a legitimate site and you won't have to worry about penalties, really. Just follow Google's suggestions and you'll be fine.

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I am programming all my sites in shtml. Much easier to update if you use a general header and footer. I agree to your post, you can restore sites very fast and they load much faster. I had a site in Joomla (900 pages) and transformed it back to shtml (took me 2 month) but i am happy with the overall result. Here it is: Forex | Forex Trading | Forex Broker | Currency Trading

No database is used at all. This site is running on a shared host.
OK, I am really glad you posted this site. It is a good example of something I did early on. Don't take offense, this is just a critique. When I visit the site, I have no idea what to do. See, I think your visitor should have only one choice to leave your site. The choice on mine is clear. Click on the ads that have something you want. I believe that when the visitor has no idea what to do, your earnings fall. Oh, BTW, I could be completely wrong. If the site is working for you, then there is no reason to listen to me

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Thank you so much Tommy.
This post of yours is really very informative and inspirational.

One thing I would like to ask is how do you go about testing and tweaking the ads. I mean how do you test which ads are getting the clicks and which are the ones that should be tweaked. What sort of tweaking?
How do I go about finding niches where we get $0.40 or $0.20 per click? do we look at adwords costs for this but I have read a few people saying that a certain keyword which costs $10 per click doesn't mean that it is going to pay us $10. It will be much much less. How do I go about to find what it will pay for each click?

Sorry, these questions may seem very basic, but I have not done much with adsense yet. Only a few days ago I was thinking about getting started with adsense and I was sort of magically led to your post. Awesome!

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Thank you Tommy. That is such a valuable nugget. Most just throw the sites up and forget, hoping clicks and money will come.

In my opinion, with so much effort needed to get $10/site/day, for a newbie it would be better to start with Affiliate marketing instead, learn about driving traffic and then go after Adsense income.

I have a bunch of AdSense sites doing not much. Tommy, your insight will be very valuable to me and many others. Thank you for sharing.

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Faraz,

It is against Google's TOS to track individual ads. Having said that, I try one ad block for a week or so, at least 3-4 thousand visits, then I try another block, then another, always one block and vary placement. Then, I combine blocks to see if I get more clicks. If it climbs too high, I back off so I'm at around 5-10%. That is because I am conservative. Now as for the keywords, I look for keywords that land in the $1.50 - $2.00 range to be sure that I get my minimum $0.20 or so per click. I have niches that are worth over $3/click and many times G will give me $3 for that click. The reason for that is I don't get tons of traffic from Digg and others that are "trash" traffic. If you do that, G will pay you under $0.04/click because the advertisers are getting bad traffic. Use social bookmarking to get links before you put ads up on the site. People are much more likely to bookmark and share a site that has no ads on it.

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Thank you so much Tommy.
This post of yours is really very informative and inspirational.

One thing I would like to ask is how do you go about testing and tweaking the ads. I mean how do you test which ads are getting the clicks and which are the ones that should be tweaked. What sort of tweaking?
How do I go about finding niches where we get $0.40 or $0.20 per click? do we look at adwords costs for this but I have read a few people saying that a certain keyword which costs $10 per click doesn't mean that it is going to pay us $10. It will be much much less. How do I go about to find what it will pay for each click?

Sorry, these questions may seem very basic, but I have not done much with adsense yet. Only a few days ago I was thinking about getting started with adsense and I was sort of magically led to your post. Awesome!

Thanks,
Faraz
Ahh, Wiper, that makes sense now. See, my advice was strictly from an adsense point of view. I get $1.50 - $3.00 per click on my forex sites. They are competitive, but just a handful of clicks gets me past the $10/day minimum. In big markets like forex, patience and persistence are needed to climb the ranks. I have other techniques to get a leg up in tough markets, and those methods take 12-24 months to come to fruition.

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Thanks for your advice. I will work on that. But this is a forex trading portal and i am getting paid by advertisors.
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Thanks for the info,very much appreciated it's changed my views on what to look for.
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Hi Tommy... great post! You have made me go swimming in the Adsense waters again.

Some people pay WAY too much attention to the amount of money a site will make. It IS NOT about the money, it is "process" that is important.

If you find a process that makes you $12/day in a small, low cost Adsense campaign, just think what that same process will do in other more profitable niches. The process is what makes the money.

There are just too many people that will step over a dollar to pick up a shiny quarter. Too many people are attracted by the "shine" and they fail to see the bigger picture.

You're a great guy, Tommy, and I really appreciate the information!

Take care!

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Don't you guys get bored of making sites just for adsense purposes?

Why not build fewer but better sites and sell some real products? Could be even more money to be made...
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Hey Tommy,

Thank you very much for the information, it will be extremely helpful if I ever go back into Adsense... But my question to you is.. do you do any sort of SEO to any of your websites?


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Hi Tommy... great post! You have made me go swimming in the Adsense waters again.

Some people pay WAY too much attention to the amount of money a site will make. It IS NOT about the money, it is "process" that is important.

If you find a process that makes you $12/day in a small, low cost Adsense campaign, just think what that same process will do in other more profitable niches. The process is what makes the money.

There are just too many people that will step over a dollar to pick up a shiny quarter. Too many people are attracted by the "shine" and they fail to see the bigger picture.

You're a great guy, Tommy, and I really appreciate the information!

Take care!
Chris, thanks for the kind words, I am happy to share! I think that some people are still missing the big picture. In some niches, I'll say it again, my sites are on the first page in the search results without any effort AT ALL in several YEARS. They have been making me money month after month on true autopilot. You just have to remember to renew the domains! Keep adding sites and you'll be able to quit your job one day. It's like money for doing nothing. How can it get better than that?

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Why not build fewer but better sites and sell some real products? Could be even more money to be made...
You just said it yourself sell. I don't want to sell anything! That's my point! Don't you get it? I don't want to look all over for affiliate products, check my earnings, agree to ever-changing program rules, updating product links, etc., etc. Plunk down your adsense code and move on. Turn off the computer and go to the beach.

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Thank you very much for the information, it will be extremely helpful if I ever go back into Adsense... But my question to you is.. do you do any sort of SEO to any of your websites?
As I said, on-page SEO is important to an extent. I make sure that my title tag has at least 2-3 related keywords in it, my description tag has my main keyword in it and is written so that people actually want to visit my site, and my menu structure is such that my main page and the highest CPC pages get the most internal link juice.

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For those of you who asked about promoting my sites, I do this also: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...egy-i-use.html
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You just said it yourself sell. I don't want to sell anything! That's my point! Don't you get it? I don't want to look all over for affiliate products, check my earnings, agree to ever-changing program rules, updating product links, etc., etc. Plunk down your adsense code and move on. Turn off the computer and go to the beach.

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I didn't mention selling other people's products or acting as an affiliate.

You could create and sell your own products.

Perhaps, you could then buy the beach.
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I didn't mention selling other people's products or acting as an affiliate.

You could create and sell your own products.

Perhaps, you could then buy the beach.
He plainly said he DOESNT WANT TO SELL ANYTHING !!
"ANYTHING' more or less encompasses selling your own products also.

There is a tremendius amount of headache in developing, marketing and selling your own Product. Some of us do not want any part of it.
I don't care if it enables me to buy the Beach and the Ocean along with it !!

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Hi Tommy,

Any chance you can share one of your sites?

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Hi Tom

Is there any chance your would show us how the layout of your sites are ( that give the best CTR?) not expecting you to expose your sites but perhaps a glimpse of the layout would be great.
Also, do you use more blogs or static sites? Which is better for adsense?

This is a very inspiring thread, btw and thanks for sharing.

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Great post Tommy.

Never really done much with Adsense, but you're making me think that perhaps I should outsource to have some of these sites created along the lines that you have discussed.

Quick question if I may? How long or how many backlinks would you get before then putting Adsense on your sites?

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Hey Thom,I am kind of new to this forum and was surprised to know that you have about 200 sites. You must be a robot.Are you? I benefited from your post anyway. That was an eye opener. I won't be surprised if you come up one day with program like adsense.
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Damn, I thought getting $10/day was a failure. Not anymore now, thanks for bringing me back to reality ;-). After reading this post and many others, one common critical point that always crops up is testing and tweaking.

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When Adsense was in it hey day, some of
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At one point (in the goold old days..back in 05 2005 not 1905!) had over 1.5 million pages indexed and was making $4000 a month without doing anything which was peanuts to what some people were earning...but it sure as hell beat working for a living!!

I have a love hate relationship with adsense

I pretty much gave up on adsense a couple of years ago and reduced my sites to about 50 small sites with only 4 or 5 pages each that I never touch.. I still made $1600 from them in December. Thats the bit I love...


The bit I hate is that I know for 1000 clicks to clickbank i make about $440 the same number of clicks on adsense ads I am lucky to make $100. Having said that It's easier to get 1000 adsnse clicks that 1000 clickbank clicks.

You should have several income streams and adsense is one of the easier ones to build and maintain.

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Thank you for the informative post tom....
but i would like to say tht u have it all wrong...

its not the niche that matters... its the quality of the traffic that gets you the $$.....

people say the IT niche is crap. have u ever seen that on adwords' end?.. there are countless bidders and advertisers for that niche... meaning you should get really high ppc... but you dont, cause well.. the high ppc is for the american and british visitors only....

you could get a nice law firm keyword to stick on ur site but wouldnt get even 10 cents if the click is from asia.....

target quality traffic and you will make good money....there is money in every niche!
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Hi Tommy,

Great thread - loads of info.

I tried an experiment to test whether a website or a blog earns more with Adsense. The blog was easier to get traffic to but earned way less than the site did. I left the blog running for about six months (and kept adding articles) but it never earned as much as the original plain website did (I had an untouched control site to check what Adsense was up to, so it wasn't Adsense playing games).

Just to be certain I tried it on more than one site and the results were the same (even if the url's on the blog were the same as for the site).

I think it comes down to the linking structure you mentioned. Blogs have way to many links and they all compete for visitor attention. It is possible to create simple themes, but simple websites are easier to put together (and edit) and much quicker to get online (plus they don't need robust hosting accounts).

And as you mentioned, website maintenance is minimal, the copy on your hard drive is your backup - Blogs are maintenance hungry and bandwidth hogs in every way.

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He plainly said he DOESNT WANT TO SELL ANYTHING !!
"ANYTHING' more or less encompasses selling your own products also.

There is a tremendius amount of headache in developing, marketing and selling your own Product. Some of us do not want any part of it.
I don't care if it enables me to buy the Beach and the Ocean along with it !!

Thanks but no thanks.

Each to his own I suppose.

Part of the danger though is that you rely 100% on Mr Google not doing anything too funky.

The old saying "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" springs to mind.

Adsense can be wonderful I know, but as someone else said, "develop more than one source of income".

"It's too late when it's already raining".

(I can't think of any more suitable puns right now).
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Hi tommy,

you are an inspiration for newbies like me, I really find your post amazing, I have few blog myself that make an everage of $5 a month from adsense. I am always looking for differeny stream of income, and you just give me another one.

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Hi Tommy,

Thanks for this great post. It's one of the most useful threads I've read since joining the WF.

My view of adsense has definitely changed after reading this and I'll be adding it as one of my income streams from now on (now that I know what's really involved), just wish I had been doing it a few years ago.

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I agree with the multiple streams of income being the most secure. But I also think the best approach to that is to start off your sites as an adsense site and see how it does. Also, the kinds of topics you target with adsense generally aren't the kinds of topics you target with affiliate income. Affiliate income (not all but some) tends to be in competitive markets that takes a long time to get rankings in the SERPs.

With an adsense site you can make some decent money by writing about trailer hitch covers and koi fish. If the niche performs well, then you broaden out into possible affiliates (if you can find any) but until you get thousands of uniques a day, you're not going to make much of a sale with affiliate income. All you need is a couple hundred a day to make $60-$100 a month on a properly done adsense site. So it makes sense to start with adsense, and expand you income horizons on your high performing websites.

On WF you read all the hype about building a list and selling affiliate products, but there is a genuinely good reason to hit up adsense and put some effort into it to start out.
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Never really done much with Adsense, but you're making me think that perhaps I should outsource to have some of these sites created along the lines that you have discussed.

Quick question if I may? How long or how many backlinks would you get before then putting Adsense on your sites?

Thanks Tommy.

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I have a quick question. When you set up Adsense on the blog, how do you know which pages get the higher earning ads? Do you set up a channel for each page and determine it that way, or just go on the CPC Estimates from the Keyword Tool?

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I have a quick question. When you set up Adsense on the blog, how do you know which pages get the higher earning ads? Do you set up a channel for each page and determine it that way, or just go on the CPC Estimates from the Keyword Tool?
If you really want to know, disable the ads and enable one page at a time. That way, you can see which pages earn more per click. Then you can make sure that you work on those pages more to optimize profitability of the site.

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Tommy: you know what you're doing. A lot of people using AdSense don't. Great post.

Have you ever been sandboxed for trying to climb the SERPs too fast? How do you stay out, or get out once you get in?
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Tommy: you know what you're doing. A lot of people using AdSense don't. Great post.

Have you ever been sandboxed for trying to climb the SERPs too fast? How do you stay out, or get out once you get in?
OK, the funny thing about this is I have too much work to do to link to a site so fast that I get sandboxed. Here is the issue: if you go after the spammer infested niches like loans, credit cards, insurance and the like, you need to be more careful. If you are putting together a niche site on making birdhouses, it is unlikely that Google will sandbox you. Of course, you will be sandboxed whatever the niche if your new website gets 1,000 links all from social bookmarking sites. Do you think that Google does not recognize 30 links from digg to your 30 site articles and 30 other sites like propeller, etc.? Oh please! Diversify the link portfolio and try to get at least one high pr link to get your site up there.

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Thanks for the advice you gave me way back there somewhere. This thread has gotten really busy since my question. A lot of good info here, it's threads like these that make the WF what it is.
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Hey Tommy, that's a nice one. I know of someone who owns well over 2000 Adsense niche sites and clock $10K per month. But nowadays, the price of clicks seem to have watered down quite a bit. I agree that it is the choice of niche that is very important.

Niches like credit cards, debt, finance-related tend to pay much better per click. But ranking for these sites are not so easy unless you go for long tails.

Frankly, I only use Adsense as a secondary source of income and will not rely on it totally. I prefer to have affiliate products or my own as the main source.

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hi tommy,

great thread you have here. just like to comment on the use of google external tool to determine cpc. the data provided by this tool reflects the cpc on the search network and not on the content sites. i find that the actual figures vary a lot is there a way to determine the cpc for the content network?
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I totally agree with your post Tommy, i have a few Adsense sites and my best on is the the one that has the highest payout per click.
I built a big site with approx 100 unique articles on it and 100 unique articles sent to article directories, it has a good amount of clikcs per day but a very low click payout, so next site i set up i will try and chose a higher paying niche

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hi tommy,

great thread you have here. just like to comment on the use of google external tool to determine cpc. the data provided by this tool reflects the cpc on the search network and not on the content sites. i find that the actual figures vary a lot is there a way to determine the cpc for the content network?
It does not really matter to me what network the CPC is referring to. As I said in another post, advertisers are able to set different bids for the content network. The CPC is still very useful as a RELATIVE comparison, not for actual values. Let me explain: let's take a very harmless niche like birdhouses.

Birdhouses-> winter birdhouse, solar birdhouse, robin birdhouse, all $0.05/click
Birdhouses-> martin bird houses, backyard bird house, window bird house, all over $1/click

Now if we were writing about bird houses and we chose the first 3 keywords and ones like it, we would be seeing clicks of a few cents max. This site would be a total loser, especially considering the traffic figures of under 500 clicks/month. If we wanted to try and make a go of this and targeted all the best keywords over or near $1/click, maybe we would do OK. Now this is not an example of a niche I think is hot or anywhere near hot, so don't waste your time writing about bird houses unless that is your passion, it is only and EXAMPLE!

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I totally agree with your post Tommy, i have a few Adsense sites and my best on is the the one that has the highest payout per click.
I built a big site with approx 100 unique articles on it and 100 unique articles sent to article directories, it has a good amount of clikcs per day but a very low click payout, so next site i set up i will try and chose a higher paying niche
Spud, that would be wise. See, as in my example above, niche research is CRITICAL to your success. When I examine niches, I look for $4 - $10+ per click. They really can be found in niches outside of credit, bankruptcy, loans, etc. With decent traffic, all you need is 4 clicks a day to make $10+/day. If your site is performing poorly, here's what you can do: go back and see if you are targeting the better paying keywords. If not, edit the articles to include them, you can do it if you try. Look to see the traffic numbers of your keywords. If you are in a low traffic niche and are getting a big chunk of the available traffic already, move on and choose another niche.

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Tommy,

On average how many pages does each site consist of? Do you keep it at a manageable tight niche, like say 10 articles of different birdhouses as your example... or do you just keep building onto one site as long as you feel each article can bring in additional revenue?

I ask because if you have a niche that you can potentially write dozens of articles on do you keep writing for that niche or do you get tired after awhile and just do 5-10 articles for each subject?

Also... do you submit a google sitemap for each site?

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Tommy,

On average how many pages does each site consist of? Do you keep it at a manageable tight niche, like say 10 articles of different birdhouses as your example... or do you just keep building onto one site as long as you feel each article can bring in additional revenue?

I ask because if you have a niche that you can potentially write dozens of articles on do you keep writing for that niche or do you get tired after awhile and just do 5-10 articles for each subject?

Also... do you submit a google sitemap for each site?

Thanks,

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OK, in my bad birdhouse example, I try out 5-10 articles. I look at the traffic that I am able to generate. Now, as I said before, Google rockets your site up to the top of the results initially if your site is properly targeted. This is the period to watch. If you cannot get decent traffic, move on because you probably hit a dud. If I see a strong surge of traffic, I get to work and mine those extra keywords, especially if I'm getting a high CPC. This will all become second nature to you eventually. Just don't sit on the fence doing nothing because doing nothing is a sure way of making nothing. I have a weight loss site with over 65 articles on it. I have not even scratched the surface of that niche. Yes, I know what I said about high-competition niches, I am in the money niches for the long term. This site will get to page 1 of Google in around 6-9 more months. It is about a year old and is finally starting to climb the ranks. Oh, and yes, I submit my sitemap to Google webmaster tools.

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The key to adsense is not to focus on a dozen or so sites. Its to build hundreds of micro blogs and then when you eventually have say 500 (and hopefully you will make many more than this)blogs out there all you need is 50 cents a day from each blog then you have a great little earner

Too many people think that you need thousands of people to a blog to earn money.

You dont..

Rather than try and make 5 great blogs that get traffic, build about 5 new ones everyday and get them out there on google then all u need is a couple of clicks per day from each blog.You may not get clicks from every blog u make but its a numbers game and some blogs u make will make up for the blogs that are flops

ive been using adsense now for a month or so and my adsense is slowly building up nicely

i only have about 50 blogs. they dont all get traffic after all its a numbers game

if you do research on niches b4 u make that small blog then u will do better. some of the bogs will be hits and some will be misses but if you keep making blogs and keep putting them out there then you are going to get results

Now i know what your thinking, " how do i get traffic to my blogs" well its simple - i use a special google tactic which def works, i do it after every blog that i make

And no i dont spend 5 hours on making a blog like some people ive heard.

It takes me about 30 mins from start to finish thats making the blog and promoting it then thats it, i leave the blog and i dont touch it ever again then i move on to the next one

there are some exceptions though, if some of your blogs are gold mines then you could do extra things to promote it and get even more traffic to it but that will be up to you

hope this helps

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The key to adsense is not to focus on a dozen or so sites. Its to build hundreds of micro blogs and then when you eventually have say 500 (and hopefully you will make many more than this)blogs out there all you need is 50 cents a day from each blog then you have a great little earner

Too many people think that you need thousands of people to a blog to earn money.

You dont..

Rather than try and make 5 great blogs that get traffic, build about 5 new ones everyday and get them out there on google then all u need is a couple of clicks per day from each blog.You may not get clicks from every blog u make but its a numbers game and some blogs u make will make up for the blogs that are flops

ive been using adsense now for a month or so and my adsense is slowly building up nicely

i only have about 50 blogs. they dont all get traffic after all its a numbers game

if you do research on niches b4 u make that small blog then u will do better. some of the bogs will be hits and some will be misses but if you keep making blogs and keep putting them out there then you are going to get results

Now i know what your thinking, " how do i get traffic to my blogs" well its simple - i use a special google tactic which def works, i do it after every blog that i make

And no i dont spend 5 hours on making a blog like some people ive heard.

It takes me about 30 mins from start to finish thats making the blog and promoting it then thats it, i leave the blog and i dont touch it ever again then i move on to the next one

there are some exceptions though, if some of your blogs are gold mines then you could do extra things to promote it and get even more traffic to it but that will be up to you

hope this helps
Wow, what can I say? There is a thread on the WF which details "autoblogging" and there are lots of wp plugins to create a blog and forget it forever. You can add the sitemap and all-in-one seo plugin and the content plugin and away you go! You can get crazy and buy up 100 domains in bulk and create 50 subdomains on each of these domains and have one niche per subdomain and then after creating the 50 original blogs, go ahead and use the backup and restore functionality on cPanel and restore the blogs to the remaining 99 domains. After this, just spend a month promoting the 5,000 blogs a little and if you get just $2 per month each from these sites, there you have it, $10,000/month. I know of some people who have done this, and even more. They won't share their earnings with me, but I am sure it works for them. I am trying to give you a much more reasonable way of creating and managing sites. After all, who wants to manage 5,000, 10,000 or even 100,000 blogs? I don't. BTW, you have to get a dedicated server because the shared hosts will kick you off their shared hosting for doing this.

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great stuff, gotta find that good niche first
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I have several sites (blogs, actually) and it hasn't make me rich yet. However, it gives me enough income for a living
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Gee, thanks for sharing.

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As always, awesome post. As you can see, this is a popular thread that many people want to know more about. I hope you plan on creating a product around this topic.

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sorry homie but you dont know what you are talking about. keep building junk blogs for a few more months and learn the hard way.

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The key to adsense is not to focus on a dozen or so sites. Its to build hundreds of micro blogs and then when you eventually have say 500 (and hopefully you will make many more than this)blogs out there all you need is 50 cents a day from each blog then you have a great little earner

Too many people think that you need thousands of people to a blog to earn money.

You dont..

Rather than try and make 5 great blogs that get traffic, build about 5 new ones everyday and get them out there on google then all u need is a couple of clicks per day from each blog.You may not get clicks from every blog u make but its a numbers game and some blogs u make will make up for the blogs that are flops

ive been using adsense now for a month or so and my adsense is slowly building up nicely

i only have about 50 blogs. they dont all get traffic after all its a numbers game

if you do research on niches b4 u make that small blog then u will do better. some of the bogs will be hits and some will be misses but if you keep making blogs and keep putting them out there then you are going to get results

Now i know what your thinking, " how do i get traffic to my blogs" well its simple - i use a special google tactic which def works, i do it after every blog that i make

And no i dont spend 5 hours on making a blog like some people ive heard.

It takes me about 30 mins from start to finish thats making the blog and promoting it then thats it, i leave the blog and i dont touch it ever again then i move on to the next one

there are some exceptions though, if some of your blogs are gold mines then you could do extra things to promote it and get even more traffic to it but that will be up to you

hope this helps

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I sometimes choose a big niche yet I just make 5 cents for a click

and sometimes I'd go with a small niche and get 50 cents for a click!!

it's really weird and I can't figure the rules of this game!

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