Why Your Adsense Websites Aren't Making You Rich

[paul nicholls]

like i said i dont do things the hard way

i dont buy any domains, i dont buy any sub domains and i dont mess around trying to build a blog with wordpress. I have a blog on wordpress so i pretty much know how they work and i woildnt like to make multiple blogs on their platform

If you have say 5000 blogs you dont need to maintain them, you can simply make them and forget. Thats the great thing about building micro blogs. Some will do well and some will be flops but it does not matter

occassionally you may need to go in and do some maintnance its in your best interest though but you dont have to but do you really care because by that time you are going to makeing a good whack anyway

i use blogger.com to make all of my blogs and i can now make a new blog within about 5 mins.

i think people try to complicate things. yes there are all of these plugins that are about but u dont need any of them the way i do it with blogger

i also make some good money piggy backing on the back of season events like valentines, superbowl xmas etc etc

i have learned this whole strategy from a guy on youtube youtube channel - changeyourcoursenow and he makes between $10,000 and $30,000 a month from doing this. Im not earning that much yet lol but im getting there

its not my place to tell you how it all works as its jays info

i thought i would def let you know how you can gain access to this technique because i dont think many people are aware of this particular strategy

this is just another income stream that i am building and the best part is, its a residual so its cool

i hope this helps

[tommygadget]

Originally Posted by Christie Love

As always, awesome post. As you can see, this is a popular thread that many people want to know more about. I hope you plan on creating a product around this topic.

I could, but I already got one thread I really put a lot of effort into deleted. This thread hopefully will not disappear as all the information will be free and no product will be involved and it will not be a "watch me do something" type thread

Originally Posted by lacraiger

sorry homie but you dont know what you are talking about. keep building junk blogs for a few more months and learn the hard way.

La, automated blogs can bring you some link power. You just need to be smart and get good content and DO NOT use adsense on them. Creating garbage will sooner or later get you banned. Even your competitors might stumble onto one of your sites and report you to Google just to torpedo you. Always stay on the up and up and the results will come if you work hard AND work smart.

TomG.

[ripsnorta2]

Originally Posted by Colin Evans

And as you mentioned, website maintenance is minimal, the copy on your hard drive is your backup - Blogs are maintenance hungry and bandwidth hogs in every way.

There are a couple of ways to minimise the bandwidth requirements. Blogs are by nature dynamic web pages. They access the database and programatically generate the page -- but you know that -- that's where the resource usage comes in.

You can use a cache, Wordpress has Supercache I think it's called, which turn the dynamic page into a static html page. I'm not sure exactly how it works, I think it stores a static page on the server, but it does help a lot when a blog gets hit by a lot of traffic.

The other thing to do is to minimize the use of images, or make sure they're small files. A lot of bandwidth gets sucked away by images. And... make sure that the server is set up to not allow other websites to use your images on their sites. They get free pics while your bandwidth gets used.

Blogs will still use more resources than static websites, but with tweaking, it won't be that bad. For that cost, you get some neat content management tools.

[ripsnorta2]

Tommy,

I imagine that keeping track of 200 websites (let alone 3000) would be a huge chore. How do you manage this?

Do you use special software, or just do it the old fashioned way, in a notebook?

[Frank Ayres]

Tommy did you get PM i sent you?

Cheers

[tommygadget]

Originally Posted by ripsnorta2

Tommy,

I imagine that keeping track of 200 websites (let alone 3000) would be a huge chore. How do you manage this?

Do you use special software, or just do it the old fashioned way, in a notebook?

I keep them in a spreadsheet. I have all the sites on a review schedule. I review at least 2 per day so the sites get a real review about once every 3 months.

Originally Posted by SpudDS

Tommy did you get PM i sent you?

Cheers

Yes, and answered.

Warriors, please, a note here. I shared this information so that you can go ahead and make money with adsense. I really don't have time for individual site reviews. Many people have asked via PM and other channels, the information you need is right here in this thread. I already have several coaching students (blog flipping, not niche adsense) and they take up most of my time.

Thanks!
TomG.

[visit_faraz]

Originally Posted by Najat Engineer

I sometimes choose a big niche yet I just make 5 cents for a click

and sometimes I'd go with a small niche and get 50 cents for a click!!

it's really weird and I can't figure the rules of this game!

Actually, even i have seen this happen.

I would like to know if there is really a way or a service which helps us to know about how much we could get paid per click for different keywords?

Faraz

[tommygadget]

Originally Posted by visit_faraz

Actually, even i have seen this happen.

I would like to know if there is really a way or a service which helps us to know about how much we could get paid per click for different keywords?

Faraz

My friend Faraz, I already answered that question. In Google's external keyword tool, there is a dropdown menu box that says: "Choose columns to display:" Pick the CPC. Now before you object, yes, it is search, yes it is for the top spot, but if you take roughly 25% of this value, you'll get a decent idea of your payout. Not bad for a free and easy to use tool, is it? So, in our birdhouse example a page or so back, you would get maybe 25% of the top keyword's $1.50/click or roughly $0.37/click. Now if you got the top spot (search gets 70% of the traffic figure, the rest leaches off to the paid results) 2400/month x .7 = 1680 (let's be realistic and say you get 50% of this or 840 visits). So, 840 visits with an average CTR of 10% yields 84 clicks x $0.37 = $31.08 for one month on one keyword. What do you think? Interested? Now get to work.

TomG.

[sega001]

I read the posting and it really make alot of sense. I have always had trouble with adsense but it is making more sense now. Thanks much

[cashcow]

This is a great post - like other posts of yours that I have read, you give people all the information they need to earn some money - they just need to take some action!

[ExRat]

Hi ripsnorta2,

I imagine that keeping track of 200 websites (let alone 3000) would be a huge chore. How do you manage this?

I have a few more than Tommy - domain dashboard is a useful tool for this.

Hi Faraz,

I sometimes choose a big niche yet I just make 5 cents for a click

and sometimes I'd go with a small niche and get 50 cents for a click!!

it's really weird and I can't figure the rules of this game!

It's called smart pricing, and it's not complicated. To learn more read the 2 blogs owned by Griz, linked to from this thread -

Who makes a living out of ADSENSE?

If you digest what he teaches, you'll be sorted.

Briefly - if the people paying for the adsense adverts don't get value for money from their clicks, then you get smart priced. You need targetted (ideally buyer) traffic clicking through and taking the right action once they get to the advertiser's site.

Key point - if one site causes smart pricing, ALL of the sites on that adsense account get smart priced.

It's ALL about sending people through your adsense who are going to take positive action after the click, on the advertiser's site. If they do - advertiser is happy, google is happy - therefore, you are happy.

[derekwong28]

There is a lot of things going on with Adsense at the moment and I wouldn't take anything for granted. For example, I have already received 6 warning letters from Adsense concerning the use of "Made for adverstising" sites. I am lucky that they haven't banned my account so far. But I have heard that others are not so lucky.

Like others here, I do have up to a thousand sites with scores of niches covered. I feel that is that this is no longer the way to make good money with Adsense. Instead, it is much better to concentrate on just one or a few sites, like plentyoffish.com and whateverlife.com and do your best to drive traffic to them.

Derek

[tommygadget]

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Instead, it is much better to concentrate on just one or a few sites, like plentyoffish.com and whateverlife.com and do your best to drive traffic to them.

Yes, that is kind of the point of the OP. Better research, better keywords, better results, fewer sites.

TomG.

[Bishop81]

Originally Posted by tommygadget

My friend Faraz, I already answered that question. In Google's external keyword tool, there is a dropdown menu box that says: "Choose columns to display:" Pick the CPC. Now before you object, yes, it is search, yes it is for the top spot, but if you take roughly 25% of this value, you'll get a decent idea of your payout. Not bad for a free and easy to use tool, is it? So, in our birdhouse example a page or so back, you would get maybe 25% of the top keyword's $1.50/click or roughly $0.37/click. Now if you got the top spot (search gets 70% of the traffic figure, the rest leaches off to the paid results) 2400/month x .7 = 1680 (let's be realistic and say you get 50% of this or 840 visits). So, 840 visits with an average CTR of 10% yields 84 clicks x $0.37 = $31.08 for one month on one keyword. What do you think? Interested? Now get to work.

TomG.

So, do you factor this in when deciding your keywords to target, or just go after the top CPC keywords?

I ran that equation on a list of keywords that I pulled, and it showed me I may be able to get more traffic from some lower paying keywords, resulting in much higher earnings. I know it's not an exact science, and all that stuff, but that would mean that while some people are targeting the higher CPC keywords and getting less traffic, I can target some lower CPC keywords, but get more traffic and come out on top.

[Bishop81]

Check this out.

I downloaded the list from the Google Keyword Tool. I actually downloaded the top list AND the bottom list of keywords. This gave me a total of 181 keywords to go through. I downloaded them in Excel format, which made it easier to work with. Anyway, I added a column to the list, which is for me to enter the Google Results.

I took each keyword and did a search in Google with quotes around it. The number of sites that returned got put into this new column.

I also added another column that holds a small equation that TommyG uses to figure the profitability of a keyword. Here it is (=(0.25 * "Estimated CPC") * 0.1 * (0.5 * (0.7 * "Average Estimated Search Results"))). This tells me about how much the keyword could earn me if I can get 50% of 70% of the average search results.

When finished, I sorted the whole list by Google Results in Ascending order. There were 112 keywords that stood out in this sorting. I then sorted these results by Average Search Estimate in Descending order. This gave me the highest searches with least competition. I took the top 50 of these keywords and sorted them one more time. This time they were sorted by the new possible earnings column, calculated by the equation above.

The final results?
My top 20 keywords have total competing sites of 5,000 - 20,000 with Average Search Results of 1,600 - 12,000. Each keyword should earn me around $16 - $215 per month, if I can get the results that TommyG predicts in his equation.

To average it out, if I can write an article or two for each of those 20 keywords, get them ranked high enough to pull 3800 visitors each, with each one competing against 11,000 pages, then I should be able to earn an average of $50 per keyword per month.

It may seem like a lot of work, but in the end it should pay off. Some of the keywords that I would be targeting aren't necessarily the highest CPC keywords, but with the traffic that they have, as well as the ability to rank easier, they should be more profitable in the end.

What do you think?

[tommygadget]

Originally Posted by Bishop81

Check this out.

I downloaded the list from the Google Keyword Tool. I actually downloaded the top list AND the bottom list of keywords. This gave me a total of 181 keywords to go through. I downloaded them in Excel format, which made it easier to work with. Anyway, I added a column to the list, which is for me to enter the Google Results...

What do you think?

I think that you should try 5 of those keywords and see if your results pan out. You should be setting up simultaneous experiments on another 10 sites. The ones that show the most promise should get most of your continuing efforts.

TomG.

[Bishop81]

Yeah, I just have to find 5 more niches that I want to target. How do you like to find new niches to work on? I find a lot of things interesting, but it's so difficult sometimes for me to find ideas.

I'm going to do the same extensive research on each niche, to see if it holds any water.

[tommygadget]

Originally Posted by Bishop81

Yeah, I just have to find 5 more niches that I want to target. How do you like to find new niches to work on? I find a lot of things interesting, but it's so difficult sometimes for me to find ideas.

I'm going to do the same extensive research on each niche, to see if it holds any water.

I'm sitting in my kitchen. Let's look around. Hmm.... I see:

1) Water filter
2) Cookware
3) Convection toaster
4) Blender
5) Plastic containers a la tupperware
6) Coffee maker/coffee grinder
7) Countertop, granite countertop
8) LCD Television
9) Washer/dryer
10) Answering machine/cordless phone
11) Cell phone
12) Fine china
13) Marble tile floor
14) Kitchen table/furniture
15) A deck
16) A lawn
17) My gas barbecue grill
18) Pella/Anderson glass windows
19) Carpet
20) Fireplace
21) Vacuum cleaner/vacuum cleaner bags
22) Carpet steamer

Are you sure you can't find any niches? Really? Imagine if I actually went outside and talked to a few people...

TomG.

[MizzCindy]

Originally Posted by Bishop81

...I also added another column that holds a small equation that TommyG uses to figure the profitability of a keyword. Here it is (=(0.25 * "Estimated CPC") * 0.1 * (0.5 * (0.7 * "Average Estimated Search Results")))...What do you think?

What do I think? I think my head just exploded!

For the mathematically challenged amongst us (I'm sincerely hoping I'm not the only one), could either you or TomG. plug in some example numbers so I can see how this works? (I'm not asking that anyone expose their niches or actual numbers, I'm just looking for something I can follow through so I can replicate the process.)

A big thank you for the added guidance!

Cindy

[Robert_Rand]

Originally Posted by derekwong28

There is a lot of things going on with Adsense at the moment and I wouldn't take anything for granted. For example, I have already received 6 warning letters from Adsense concerning the use of "Made for adverstising" sites. I am lucky that they haven't banned my account so far. But I have heard that others are not so lucky.

Like others here, I do have up to a thousand sites with scores of niches covered. I feel that is that this is no longer the way to make good money with Adsense. Instead, it is much better to concentrate on just one or a few sites, like plentyoffish.com and whateverlife.com and do your best to drive traffic to them.

Derek

I definitely agree - it's just a lot more challenging to produce a site like that.

How does Google determine your site is a "made for advertising site" anyway? Sure, I'd imagine the sites are obviously lower quality but is there some kind of determining factor?

[Bishop81]

Originally Posted by tommygadget

I'm sitting in my kitchen. Let's look around. Hmm.... I see:

1) Water filter
2) Cookware
3) Convection toaster
4) Blender
5) Plastic containers a la tupperware
6) Coffee maker/coffee grinder
7) Countertop, granite countertop
8) LCD Television
9) Washer/dryer
10) Answering machine/cordless phone
11) Cell phone
12) Fine china
13) Marble tile floor
14) Kitchen table/furniture
15) A deck
16) A lawn
17) My gas barbecue grill
18) Pella/Anderson glass windows
19) Carpet
20) Fireplace
21) Vacuum cleaner/vacuum cleaner bags
22) Carpet steamer

Are you sure you can't find any niches? Really? Imagine if I actually went outside and talked to a few people...

TomG.

Lol, just chalk it up to being lazy, I guess.

Thanks for the slap in the face.

[Bishop81]

Originally Posted by MizzCindy

What do I think? I think my head just exploded!

For the mathematically challenged amongst us (I'm sincerely hoping I'm not the only one), could either you or TomG. plug in some example numbers so I can see how this works? (I'm not asking that anyone expose their niches or actual numbers, I'm just looking for something I can follow through so I can replicate the process.)

A big thank you for the added guidance!

Cindy

Look back at post #112.
Why Your Adsense Websites Aren't Making You Rich

[ripsnorta2]

Originally Posted by tommygadget

I'm sitting in my kitchen. Let's look around. Hmm.... I see:

1) Water filter
2) Cookware
3) Convection toaster
4) Blender
5) Plastic containers a la tupperware
6) Coffee maker/coffee grinder
7) Countertop, granite countertop
8) LCD Television
9) Washer/dryer
10) Answering machine/cordless phone
11) Cell phone
12) Fine china
13) Marble tile floor
14) Kitchen table/furniture
15) A deck
16) A lawn
17) My gas barbecue grill
18) Pella/Anderson glass windows
19) Carpet
20) Fireplace
21) Vacuum cleaner/vacuum cleaner bags
22) Carpet steamer

Are you sure you can't find any niches? Really? Imagine if I actually went outside and talked to a few people...

TomG.

I'm glad you weren't sitting in your toilet/bathroom.

[ripsnorta2]

I'm not sure if it's been asked/answered, but how do you avoid Google's Smart Pricing?

My understanding is that if just one of your sites performs poorly, then Google will smart price your entire account downwards. That would surely seriously affect your entire income.

[tommygadget]

Originally Posted by ripsnorta2

I'm not sure if it's been asked/answered, but how do you avoid Google's Smart Pricing?

My understanding is that if just one of your sites performs poorly, then Google will smart price your entire account downwards. That would surely seriously affect your entire income.

My method avoids this. I said that if you were using social bookmarking, things like that which bring in low quality traffic, then keep adsense off the sites until you get the rankings. Alternatively, you can do anything you want to supplemental sites which you can use for the right link juice. This would come under the heading "advanced strategies". The supplemental sites can have any monetization method OTHER than adsense.

TomG.

[dndoseller]

I can confirm what you say.

There is a HUGE difference in amount you get per click based on the niche.

For instance, Adwords "web hosting" keywords are 10x the cost of "Free mp3" keywords.

Also, you need to stick adsense in people's faces. I have seen over and over again that 1 simple large rectange above the fold and above the content can triple CTR.

[Chris Kent]

So Paul what is your special tactic? You still haven't posted it.

btw I would love to hear any Adsense experts tips for keyword research, not just using the CPC tool.

[tjk1058]

Tommy,

Do you do coaching? I am having a serious block lately... ever since my last endeavor that dried up I can't seem to get back into a groove.

Had the same problem the last time and I broke through it by hiring a coach for a few sessions that walked me through some techniques that made the light go on in my head on how to do certain things.

I'm more of a show it to me step-by-step guy... so if I can pay someone to give me 1-2-3 steps to follow then it really makes a difference to me.

If you do coach then PM me and give me some rates...

TedK

[MizzCindy]

Tommy, excellent thread. Thank you! I've been using your suggestions while building my first adsense blog. This thread has clarified a number of things I had questions on. Nicely done!

Are you still working on Valerie's adsense sites to increase her earnings? Has she seen some improvement? I'd love to hear an update.

Originally Posted by tommygadget

PM me as many urls as you want me to look at. Start with the worst performers.

TomG.

Again, thanks for the informative thread. I'm taking action on several of these suggestions.

Cindy

[Bishop81]

For those of you who think Adsense is too cheap to worry about, I had a $2.55 click in the exercise niche just the other day. Unfortunately, I don't know which page on my site generated the click, but there's definitely money to be made.

[cookies]

I'm just starting down the path that many of you are already on. Thank you, Tommy, for the lessons...!

I'm really looking forward to future posts!

[SebastianJ]

Just found this thread by random luck - great tips and pointers in here!

[Lucas Adamski]

Really good tips!
I use CTR theme and it seems to increase my adsense CTR quite dramatically. Click bump is another good theme for adsense sites.

[c4822]

That's amazing...200 Sites? do you have a life Are all of them producing?