How many niche sites do you set up a week? A month?

by Gunsblazen 57 replies
Just wondering, like how LONG do you work on a niche site before you set it and forget it and move on to the next shiny object lol

I'm still new, but I'm limiting myself right now to 1 domain per week. So I have to go full force on 1 site at a time.

or do you set thresholds like "20 pages and 10 backlinks...lets see what happens"

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
    I'm starting on my third, started the first back in January. So at the current pace, I'm putting one out every two months. Neither of my sites are ever "done" (fresh content added all the time), so there isn't really any arbitrary threshold I aim for before starting another site.

    I just plug away until I find myself with extra time to use and a new niche ready to enter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
    Started my second site one month ago (my previous site was a personal-esque IM site). I have just about 18 posts on it. I plan to work on this for another month or two before I start another site.

    I might look into autoblogs. That way I can create more sites instead of putting all my effort into writing for each of my sites.
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  • I only have two niches. I think you should only have one niche. Then be the best in that niche. Otherwise you are spreading yourself to thin.
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    I used to do a lot. Now I've totally fallen back from all of that 'super volume' type stuff.

    I do probably 2 or 3 new sites monthly.
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  • Profile picture of the author JDIZM
    Its all about quality not quantity. Niche sites aren't just landing pages and they need to be providing a decent amount of value to make any decent money or last long enough in the rankings. The hardest part can be staying focused with all the daily distractions, but once you focus your efforts you will only improve.
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    • Profile picture of the author the goat
      Originally Posted by JDIZM View Post

      Its all about quality not quantity.
      Who says you can't have both? I finished site #137 today and every one I build has unique useful content and a very nice design/graphics. I am proud of every one of them.

      One tip I do have is this: Start by just using a Wordpress default theme out of the box. Put 3-5 500 or so word articles on it. Just get it up as fast as you can don't worry about it being pretty. Worry about finding out if it will rank easily and then get it pretty later. Just get it up, let it sit and move on to something else.

      I have another #50 or so sites in this stage and as they get ranked I make them pretty, monetize them and add more content. Some sites just won't work. I have a bunch, but I only wasted about 15 minutes on each (I outsource my writing). No sense in wasting hours making the site all pretty if it is never going to rank right?

      Every day I either research keywords and buy domains, build a raw site, or finish and monetize a site. It is a continuous cycle.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
        Originally Posted by the goat View Post

        Who says you can't have both? I finished site #137 today and every one I build has unique useful content and a very nice design/graphics. I am proud of every one of them.

        One tip I do have is this: Start by just using a Wordpress default theme out of the box. Put 3-5 500 or so word articles on it. Just get it up as fast as you can don't worry about it being pretty. Worry about finding out if it will rank easily and then get it pretty later.

        I have another #50 or so sites in this stage and as they get ranked I make them pretty, monetize them and add more content. Some sites just won't work. I have a bunch, but I only wasted about 15 minutes on each (I outsource my writing). No sense in wasting hours making the site all pretty if it is never going to rank right?

        Every day I either research keywords and buy domains, build a raw site, or finish and monetize a site. It is a continuous cycle.
        Great idea outsourcing all your writing. That way, you can put up a bunch of sites with a small down payment and almost no time wasted and you can see which are gems and which will fail. It sucks to spend a bunch of time on a site that will never make you money. Your method is smart.
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        • Profile picture of the author the goat
          Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

          Your method is smart.
          Must be something in the Cape Cod air
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      • Profile picture of the author Gunsblazen
        Originally Posted by the goat View Post


        I have another #50 or so sites in this stage and as they get ranked I make them pretty, monetize them and add more content. Some sites just won't work. I have a bunch, but I only wasted about 15 minutes on each (I outsource my writing). No sense in wasting hours making the site all pretty if it is never going to rank right?

        Every day I either research keywords and buy domains, build a raw site, or finish and monetize a site. It is a continuous cycle.
        So let me ask you this, what is your metric for moving to the next level of a site? If it breaks the top 100 after sitting for a bit? The top 50??

        I started a niche 3 days ago and its about to hit the top 100, pretty much on the keyword EMD alone. Think I should push this one a little more right now and see what happens?
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        Originally Posted by the goat View Post

        Who says you can't have both? I finished site #137 today and every one I build has unique useful content and a very nice design/graphics. I am proud of every one of them.

        One tip I do have is this: Start by just using a Wordpress default theme out of the box. Put 3-5 500 or so word articles on it. Just get it up as fast as you can don't worry about it being pretty. Worry about finding out if it will rank easily and then get it pretty later. Just get it up, let it sit and move on to something else.

        I have another #50 or so sites in this stage and as they get ranked I make them pretty, monetize them and add more content. Some sites just won't work. I have a bunch, but I only wasted about 15 minutes on each (I outsource my writing). No sense in wasting hours making the site all pretty if it is never going to rank right?

        Every day I either research keywords and buy domains, build a raw site, or finish and monetize a site. It is a continuous cycle.
        Does a site containing 3-5 500-words articles ever come up in the top 10 results of the Google SERPs?
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      • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
        Can I know if you rank in top 3 (not first page but top 3) for any of keywords or the $$ you make with 135 sites?

        Unless you are running a business with staff working, this model is doomed to fail. It may be misleading to people.

        The things scale up, outsource, rinse repeat will all work in bottom up approach not in top down (reverse engineering and depending on google)

        IF you can share enough proof, effort spent, $$$ invested, it will be helpful for people, else its misleading and can be read between lines easily.


        Jay



        Originally Posted by the goat View Post

        Who says you can't have both? I finished site #137 today and every one I build has unique useful content and a very nice design/graphics. I am proud of every one of them.

        One tip I do have is this: Start by just using a Wordpress default theme out of the box. Put 3-5 500 or so word articles on it. Just get it up as fast as you can don't worry about it being pretty. Worry about finding out if it will rank easily and then get it pretty later. Just get it up, let it sit and move on to something else.

        I have another #50 or so sites in this stage and as they get ranked I make them pretty, monetize them and add more content. Some sites just won't work. I have a bunch, but I only wasted about 15 minutes on each (I outsource my writing). No sense in wasting hours making the site all pretty if it is never going to rank right?

        Every day I either research keywords and buy domains, build a raw site, or finish and monetize a site. It is a continuous cycle.
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        • Profile picture of the author the goat
          Originally Posted by jaiganeshv View Post

          Can I know if you rank in top 3 (not first page but top 3) for any of keywords or the $$ you make with 135 sites?

          Unless you are running a business with staff working, this model is doomed to fail. It may be misleading to people.

          The things scale up, outsource, rinse repeat will all work in bottom up approach not in top down (reverse engineering and depending on google)

          IF you can share enough proof, effort spent, $$$ invested, it will be helpful for people, else its misleading and can be read between lines easily.


          Jay
          Don't be so concerned about rankings only. Traffic is what you should worry about. There is no correlation between rankings and money. Traffic makes money, not rankings.

          I mean sure, most of my sites rank on the first page of something, be it google, bing, yahoo, google images, youtube etc. but some are successful because they have garnered a bunch of social media "likes" or someone has used it as a reference in a forum post etc. etc. It's all about traffic, no matter where it comes from.

          Why would this model fail without a staff? That makes zero sense.

          The things scale up, outsource, rinse repeat will all work in bottom up approach not in top down (reverse engineering and depending on google)
          I have to admit, I have no idea what that means.

          Oh and share proof? I'm not selling anything. I have nothing to prove, anyone not selling a related product, who goes out of their way to prove something, is either lying or they didn't get enough attention from their Mommy.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            It's always been a work in progress for me for all of my niche websites. I've been averaging about one new niche every 2-3 months over the years. The websites generally are rather lean, with 5-12 pages of nearly static content.

            These sites can never rank in the SERPS due to extremely heavy key word competition, so there is no practical reason to build them out. Traffic is generated almost entirely through article syndication and email marketing.
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          • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
            Originally Posted by the goat View Post

            Don't be so concerned about rankings only. Traffic is what you should worry about. There is no correlation between rankings and money. Traffic makes money, not rankings.

            I mean sure, most of my sites rank on the first page of something, be it google, bing, yahoo, google images, youtube etc. but some are successful because they have garnered a bunch of social media "likes" or someone has used it as a reference in a forum post etc. etc. It's all about traffic, no matter where it comes from.

            Why would this model fail without a staff? That makes zero sense.



            I have to admit, I have no idea what that means.

            Oh and share proof? I'm not selling anything. I have nothing to prove, anyone not selling a related product, who goes out of their way to prove something, is either lying or they didn't get enough attention from their Mommy.

            If you have other sources of traffic and not depend on google rankings, then its perfectly fine. Because all such models of building EMd and niche sites are towards free google traffic which is very unlikely going forward (it should bonus and not primary means)

            The reason i asked is - building so many sites can be juggling with too many glasses.

            Everytime you build a new site, you are stopping the growth of your older sites, it is a tricky part in running multiple sites without doing damage to older sites.

            Also building so many sites multiplies your risk by all means.

            Example:
            Adsense - everytime you build a new site, you increase the risk of doing things against Adsense TOS and hence getting banned.

            I heard this saying...
            Its better to work inch wide and mile deep and NOT mile wide and inch deep.
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            • Profile picture of the author fedor50
              Originally Posted by jaiganeshv View Post

              If you have other sources of traffic and not depend on google rankings, then its perfectly fine. Because all such models of building EMd and niche sites are towards free google traffic which is very unlikely going forward (it should bonus and not primary means)

              The reason i asked is - building so many sites can be juggling with too many glasses.

              Everytime you build a new site, you are stopping the growth of your older sites, it is a tricky part in running multiple sites without doing damage to older sites.

              Also building so many sites multiplies your risk by all means.

              Example:
              Adsense - everytime you build a new site, you increase the risk of doing things against Adsense TOS and hence getting banned.

              I heard this saying...
              Its better to work inch wide and mile deep and NOT mile wide and inch deep.
              I agree that you must try not to spread yourself too thin by making too many sites. It's best to focus on an authority site.
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      • Profile picture of the author dazzvision
        Are you talking about adsense autoblogs? I think 137 manual site for one day is unbelievable..
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          If you're talking about niche sites without regard
          for SEO traffic - mainly sites that sell a product...

          Then, I think I have probably over a few hundred
          under my belt. Some were shut down due to low
          profitability, some persisted, some were put on
          hold...

          Since 2006, I've been just writing products like
          a mad man, starting off by selling all those tiny
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      • Profile picture of the author dazzvision
        Originally Posted by the goat View Post

        Who says you can't have both? I finished site #137 today and every one I build has unique useful content and a very nice design/graphics. I am proud of every one of them.

        One tip I do have is this: Start by just using a Wordpress default theme out of the box. Put 3-5 500 or so word articles on it. Just get it up as fast as you can don't worry about it being pretty. Worry about finding out if it will rank easily and then get it pretty later. Just get it up, let it sit and move on to something else.

        I have another #50 or so sites in this stage and as they get ranked I make them pretty, monetize them and add more content. Some sites just won't work. I have a bunch, but I only wasted about 15 minutes on each (I outsource my writing). No sense in wasting hours making the site all pretty if it is never going to rank right?

        Every day I either research keywords and buy domains, build a raw site, or finish and monetize a site. It is a continuous cycle.
        Do you build it with autoblog software? I think 137 manual site is unbelievable.. even if you outsource it
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        • Profile picture of the author the goat
          Originally Posted by dazzvision View Post

          Do you build it with autoblog software? I think 137 manual site is unbelievable.. even if you outsource it
          I have a couple of autoblogs left over from when they could rank, but I don't even count those in the 137 (I'm up passed 140 now).

          I outsource all the content writing. How is that unbelievable? All the design/layout only needs to be done once. The rest is just adding the content I have written for me. I could handle hundreds more before I even got anywhere near having to work 40 hours a week.
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    Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

    Just wondering, like how LONG do you work on a niche site before you set it and forget it and move on to the next shiny object lol

    ....

    Thanks!
    It depends...

    Roughly 0 minutes a week.
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  • Profile picture of the author jakecoop79
    I used to do this more than I do now, just because I have a lot of other stuff going on now, but I would buy domain names, put some content, 5 to 10 unique posts, and then just let them age.

    Then maybe around 3 months to 6 months I would start paying more attention them and usually work on 2 or 3 at a time. I would focus on site 1 for a week (design, content, backlinks), then move to site 2 for a week, then site 3 for a week.

    Then i would come back see what was happening with site 1 (check rankings, find any long tails I'm getting traffic for, etc). I would just rinse and repeat over and over. Works great.

    A lot of the waiting you can bypass if you have cash and can buy some good aged domains. Say you bought a 3 year old site that was a pr 4 or 5, that baby would rocket up the serps.
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  • Profile picture of the author the goat
    More like top 10. But I don't really go by that alone. Once a site consistently gets around 50 unique visitors a day I will move it to stage two. Rankings don't make money, traffic does.

    What is the search volume of the keywords on your site? Mine all have a minimum of 2,500 exact local searches for the main keyword.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
      Originally Posted by the goat View Post

      More like top 10. But I don't really go by that alone. Once a site consistently gets around 50 unique visitors a day I will move it to stage two. Rankings don't make money, traffic does.

      What is the search volume of the keywords on your site? Mine all have a minimum of 2,500 exact local searches for the main keyword.
      Would your sites be classified as "sniper", micro-niche-esque sites or more as authority sites? I'm assuming micro sites because you only add a couple articles for the first stage, but how many more articles do you add on later stages - how much do you develop the sites?

      Also, for those initial articles, do you usually add pure informational content or affiliate review articles?

      And, it must be something in the air haha
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      • Profile picture of the author the goat
        Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

        Would your sites be classified as "sniper", micro-niche-esque sites or more as authority sites? I'm assuming micro sites because you only add a couple articles for the first stage, but how many more articles do you add on later stages - how much do you develop the sites?

        Also, for those initial articles, do you usually add pure informational content or affiliate review articles?

        And, it must be something in the air haha
        I let the site decide what it wants to be. Some become very successful traffic wise from people searching for information. In this case I will keep adding a few articles a week and develop them into authority sites with adsense and other advertising.

        Some I realize are getting most of their traffic from keywords that suggest people are looking for reviews and I will go that route and monetize them with amazon links.

        Some keyword analysis suggests that people are looking for a service in the niche and I will find a good person to outsource the service with and advertise double their price then outsource to them and make a profit.

        It is all about analyzing your traffic sources and their keywords. For instance I have a product site that is for a very popular product that is yet to be released. Most of the keywords are things like "When is xxxx launching" or "xxxxrumors" So I attack those keywords.

        After the product is released I will probably switch to reviews and sell accessories for the product via amazon etc. I let the site morph into what it wants to be by studying the traffic instead of being arrogant and pre-determining what a site should be.

        Maybe you and I should develop a site or app for residents to get real time up to the minute updates on Sagamore and Bourne Bridge traffic. I bet it would be pretty popular around here.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
          Originally Posted by the goat View Post

          I let the site decide what it wants to be. Some become very successful traffic wise from people searching for information. In this case I will keep adding a few articles a week and develop them into authority sites with adsense and other advertising.

          Some I realize are getting most of their traffic from keywords that suggest people are looking for reviews and I will go that route and monetize them with amazon links.

          Some keyword analysis suggests that people are looking for a service in the niche and I will find a good person to outsource the service with and advertise double their price then outsource to them and make a profit.

          It is all about analyzing your traffic sources and their keywords. For instance I have a product site that is for a very popular product that is yet to be released. Most of the keywords are things like "When is xxxx launching" or "xxxxrumors" So I attack those keywords.

          After the product is released I will probably switch to reviews and sell accessories for the product via amazon etc. I let the site morph into what it wants to be by studying the traffic instead of being arrogant and pre-determining what a site should be.

          Maybe you and I should develop a site or app for residents to get real time up to the minute updates on Sagamore and Bourne Bridge traffic. I bet it would be pretty popular around here.
          Thanks for the info! Really helpful.

          Just wondering: do you ever monetize a blog with both adsense and affiliate offers?
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          Originally Posted by the goat View Post

          I let the site decide what it wants to be. Some become very successful traffic wise from people searching for information. In this case I will keep adding a few articles a week and develop them into authority sites with adsense and other advertising.

          Some I realize are getting most of their traffic from keywords that suggest people are looking for reviews and I will go that route and monetize them with amazon links.

          Some keyword analysis suggests that people are looking for a service in the niche and I will find a good person to outsource the service with and advertise double their price then outsource to them and make a profit.

          It is all about analyzing your traffic sources and their keywords. For instance I have a product site that is for a very popular product that is yet to be released. Most of the keywords are things like "When is xxxx launching" or "xxxxrumors" So I attack those keywords.

          After the product is released I will probably switch to reviews and sell accessories for the product via amazon etc. I let the site morph into what it wants to be by studying the traffic instead of being arrogant and pre-determining what a site should be.

          Maybe you and I should develop a site or app for residents to get real time up to the minute updates on Sagamore and Bourne Bridge traffic. I bet it would be pretty popular around here.
          Really true and interesting words about letting the site develop with the traffic instead of 'pre determining.' I guess this format reflects the prevelance of social media as one main source these days.

          Good post!
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          • Profile picture of the author the goat
            Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

            Can you show us maybe one or two sites?
            Sorry but no. Public forums are no place for links to money making niche sites, hope you understand.

            Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

            I'll definitely add Adsense to my niche site.

            What service do you use for text link ads? I would be interested in using them.
            Don't use a service, they all suck and pay next to nothing. Get affiliate accounts and create your own text links. Since you are a fellow Cape Codder I took a minute to give you an exact example from your site.

            In your post "Looking For A Free Wordpress Theme" you said the following...

            "During these couple days, I seriously considered paying for a premium WordPress theme. The main theme I was looking at was the Thesis theme. Honestly, everything about this theme looks amazing."

            See how I turned "thesis theme" into a link? Click it, it goes to the Thesis affiliate program page. Sign up and create a link there. Now you may not be getting much traffic and maybe won't get any sales out of it, but what can it hurt right?

            That is an example of taking natural text and monetizing it. And that was from looking at your site for less than 2 minutes.
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            • Profile picture of the author Gunsblazen
              Originally Posted by the goat View Post


              Don't use a service, they all suck and pay next to nothing. Get affiliate accounts and create your own text links. Since you are a fellow Cape Codder I took a minute to give you an exact example from your site.
              affiliate program page.

              That is an example of taking natural text and monetizing it. And that was from looking at your site for less than 2 minutes.
              I also do this in PDF's and ebooks. Like, if you do a swim training manual or something, at the bottom of the page I always throw some kind of "check this out" gear and link it BACK TO MY SITE which has a product page for this specific product. I also link to text in the PDF. I figure it gets me a return visit and maybe a commission after already selling/distributing my ebook.

              I've tried linking in text but find it tedious. I'd love a good program that does it. What are the best? Or the least worst lol.

              Also, what is peerfly?
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    • Profile picture of the author Gunsblazen
      Originally Posted by the goat View Post

      More like top 10. But I don't really go by that alone. Once a site consistently gets around 50 unique visitors a day I will move it to stage two. Rankings don't make money, traffic does.

      What is the search volume of the keywords on your site? Mine all have a minimum of 2,500 exact local searches for the main keyword.
      2000 per month. Exact local.

      And the page ranks are awful on page one. #1 is a 3, a couple 2's, a 1, a zero, and the rest no PR.

      The first time it ranked it was 125 with just the name and an about page up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

    Just wondering, like how LONG do you work on a niche site before you set it and forget it and move on to the next shiny object lol
    I never completely do that.

    I continue to add an article to each of my sites, three times per month.

    Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

    I'm still new, but I'm limiting myself right now to 1 domain per week.
    I have 8 niche sites, all started over the last three and a half years. That's about one 1 per 5 months, on average. A bit different from your rate of progress.

    Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

    do you set thresholds like "20 pages and 10 backlinks...lets see what happens"
    No, not at all: I already know fairly confidently before setting up each of mine that I won't need anything like 20 pages to attract floods of highly targeted traffic through article marketing. 4 or 5 pages and no backlinks at all are plenty for me (to start with, I mean - they do gradually grow, of course).
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  • Profile picture of the author the goat
    So far for me, 137 have done so. 17 have failed to do so. 50 or so are on their way to doing so.

    If you do your keyword research and get good domains with high exact local searches and low competition then it is sure as rain.
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    • Profile picture of the author schttrj
      Originally Posted by jakecoop79 View Post

      I used to do this more than I do now, just because I have a lot of other stuff going on now, but I would buy domain names, put some content, 5 to 10 unique posts, and then just let them age.

      Then maybe around 3 months to 6 months I would start paying more attention them and usually work on 2 or 3 at a time. I would focus on site 1 for a week (design, content, backlinks), then move to site 2 for a week, then site 3 for a week.

      Then i would come back see what was happening with site 1 (check rankings, find any long tails I'm getting traffic for, etc). I would just rinse and repeat over and over. Works great.

      A lot of the waiting you can bypass if you have cash and can buy some good aged domains. Say you bought a 3 year old site that was a pr 4 or 5, that baby would rocket up the serps.
      Isn't that how any authority site is born anyway?

      Originally Posted by the goat View Post

      So far for me, 137 have done so. 17 have failed to do so. 50 or so are on their way to doing so.

      If you do your keyword research and get good domains with high exact local searches and low competition then it is sure as rain.
      Can you show us one or two of your websites? Just to get an idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author the goat
    Sure do. I have sites that have any combination of adsense, amazon, peerfly, commission junction and paid advertising links all on the same page. Whichever one, or combo of many, works is what I do.

    My ultimate weapon is text links embedded in content, they convert like crazy.
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    • Profile picture of the author schttrj
      Originally Posted by the goat View Post

      Sure do. I have sites that have any combination of adsense, amazon, peerfly, commission junction and paid advertising links all on the same page. Whichever one, or combo of many, works is what I do.

      My ultimate weapon is text links embedded in content, they convert like crazy.
      Can you show us maybe one or two sites?
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      Originally Posted by the goat View Post

      Sure do. I have sites that have any combination of adsense, amazon, peerfly, commission junction and paid advertising links all on the same page. Whichever one, or combo of many, works is what I do.

      My ultimate weapon is text links embedded in content, they convert like crazy.
      I'll definitely add Adsense to my niche site.

      What service do you use for text link ads? I would be interested in using them.
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      • Profile picture of the author BTbuzz
        Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

        I'll definitely add Adsense to my niche site.

        What service do you use for text link ads? I would be interested in using them.
        There's no rush on adding anything yet , work them , but i disagree on looks of sites, I think you should have a nice looking site out the gate if your posting on blogs in that niche you can pick up allies if you look good. It's amazing how so many people rely so heavily on outsource services when most of it is substandard, then wonder why googles stepping in to clean house.
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  • Profile picture of the author fenixpro
    Wow, lot's of people talking about how they work on their sites in different ways. I dig it! Lot's of action being taken!

    I'm very good at action, but not always at action on the same things. I have around 50 sites that I have established and am working towards getting them 'authority' status via lot's of targeted quality content.

    Problem is I also do offline SEO services for small businesses and email marketing/list building on my own. Not to mention the occasional weekly dabble in some sort of other campaign or IM learning experience.

    So for me it really is time and focus. I have the KWR done and the bases covered and everything set up and on the way, but there's no hurry in my mind. Some sites will do well and others won't. I can sell both or at least sell those that don't do as well.

    These days with things like content curation and auto syndicating your posts to get links and traffic, you really just have to build the machine and press start.

    There's some stat like 80% of IMers never build their first site. Kudos to all of you for not being in that 80%.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Ox
    I started out from nothing (the only thing I knew about computers was how to write a text in word and how to check my email) around 40days ago. I have been testing my sales page in this week and I think I would move on the next product after I decide what to do with the first one.. either keep it or let it go it.
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  • Profile picture of the author the goat
    I really can't recommend a text link program as I abandoned them a long time ago, I'm a bit of a control freak and I like to do it manually so I can set it up exactly the way I want. I also like to know my sites inside and out.

    Peerfly is a CPA network.

    Oh and from what you said about your site it sounds like you did some good keyword research, you should be able to rank that top three and earn from it in no time at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Rockey
    There is a warning sign here.

    I do not move onto to another site, another niche etc until I have squeezed every drop out of the one I am working on.

    Really I believe that we need to be working in a niche that best suits our strengths and abilities. If this is in place you stand a far better chance of making significant money because you enjoy it have and have a big advantage over your competition.

    I practically guarantee that moving on to another site without doing all the marketing and strategies you need to become super successful in the first one will lead to disappointment and frustration.

    Unless of course, you have most of the activities in your site, such as list building, value to the customers, backlinking etc etc automation via outsourcing. Perhaps then we should move on?
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  • Profile picture of the author payment proof
    I'm actually focused on my existing niche sites and doing SEO for them.
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      I think it's my 50 one...the seo work is boring
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  • Profile picture of the author the goat
    I feel like you guys have too much of a black and white veiw of this. An authority site can be a niche site, most are as a matter of fact, it does not have to be one or the other. Just because someone builds a bunch of sites does not mean they aren't quality. I would call more than 50 of my sites authority sites and they are all niche sites.

    They are also very well built and visually appealing. I don't understand why you think that it is impossible to have both quality and quantity. If you know what you are doing it is not that hard. Really the only important thing to have in order to develop and manage hundreds of high quality, money making websites is affordable talented writers to outsource content creation with. Graphics, layout and all the other aesthetic aspects of site development only have to be done once, content is the only ongoing work and there are plenty of talented writers out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ayesha F
    Very informative discussion !I also believe in quality instead of too many to manage.
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  • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
    Niche authority sites are the way to go, with backlinks and traffic from niche specific sites. I am doing this in three of my most passionate niches. I stick with niches that I am thoroughly interested in. Whilst not an instant success, I build my sites up over time until they have gone viral. I would therefore recommend anyone building niche authority sites to offer great content and a reason for visitors to return time after time.

    There is a great WSO called 'Viral Traffic Case Study' that is a pretty cool method for generating niche specific traffic and backlinks from a variety of niche specific sources. This is currently $10, its definitely a good investment...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ts-inside.html

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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

    Just wondering, like how LONG do you work on a niche site before you set it and forget it and move on
    I never set it and forget it. I own maybe 12 active sites or so and do 4 figures per month as an Amazon affiliate. I try to build at least one per month but that doesn't always happen. However, I do only spend an hour or two per day maintaining my sites so that's about as close to set and forget that you can be.

    It works for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    All I will say is that if you're new, then I would limit yourself to one! Yes... JUST ONE!

    Spend time on it, get to learn the ins and outs of it all, get it making money.

    If you can't get 1 making money then you won't get 10 making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tania Edwards
    I have just set up my first site ever..
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    These days I set up around 2 a year...

    It's not how many you got, but what you do with them that counts.

    I've got over 30 sites out there and they are all profitable to some degree but I've discovered it's more profitable (in my experience) to spend time building a solid funnel and backend on a handful of sites instead of jumping from one site to the next without a strong strategy for each.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I used to have 275 sites at the peak, but scaled it down to 100. Of those, 20 are being actively promoted. I don't see much advantage to many small sites these days.

    However, building them in batches of ten is not a bad way to see their potential. Some domains/sites seem to do a lot better than other ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattBrighton
    I guess it depends on what people are aiming for. You can either create lots of small websites or 1 big website.

    Personally, I prefer the bigger websites, In the time it takes me to create 10 adsense sites earning $10 each a month. I could create 1 website which earns $100 its self, and I could work even harder to target more keywords to make that figure grow. I'm actually doing that at the moment. I sold off all of my adsense sites and sticking to only a few that I thought will do well.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    Why is it given seems to be Gospel online bizz you need to run 1,000 web sites in 100+ niches?

    Yet FB, paypal, Google, Martin Money saving site....all concentrated on one business. See the link?

    For some strange reason everyone follows like sheep and thinks you hve to run in dozens of niches, you know very little about, to be successful online.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    Yep agreed 100%. EVERY site and business i have ever woked on/in has frankly been a pain in the a*** at some stage. I wouldn't put my-self through that frustraton ever again. Do one. Do it well. Get a life off the Net and out of biz. Enjoy.

    I guess it is al lthe "multiple Streams of passive income" B*S* peddled that now has become gospel.

    Personally, I prefer the bigger websites, In the time it takes me to create 10 adsense sites earning $10 each a month. I could create 1 website which earns $100 its self, and I could work even harder to target more keywords to make that figure grow. I'm actually doing that at the moment. I sold off all of my adsense sites and sticking to only a few that I thought will do well.
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  • Profile picture of the author faisalmaximus
    I have setup total 5 so far, only 2 are providing me good profit, other 3 are providing zero.
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  • Profile picture of the author DannyDisco
    It all depends. I never really forget them. I try to add at least 1 article per month for all my sites. You'd be surprised how much traffic your long tail keywords will bring. Even without backlinking.

    Generally, I put out as many sites as I can afford per month (however, what I can afford is a comlex calculation. haha). More, like I put out however many I can afford to work on timewise.

    Take a look at the guide in my sig. It pretty much details the exact process I follow when setting up MNS sites. I usually get most sites making $50-$100/month within 2-3 months.

    I keep working on the bigger earners, and "set and forget" or sell the ones that don't have as much potential. It's been working out pretty well for me so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

    Just wondering, like how LONG do you work on a niche site before you set it and forget it and move on to the next shiny object lol

    I'm still new, but I'm limiting myself right now to 1 domain per week. So I have to go full force on 1 site at a time.

    or do you set thresholds like "20 pages and 10 backlinks...lets see what happens"

    Thanks!
    My advice, work on three at a time and work on all of them until at least one of them starts to make you money. Too many people, including myself at one point, quit on sites too soon. Sometimes it takes 100 or even 200 good pages or posts to really see the traffic necessary to make good money from a site and other times it only takes 5 or 10.

    It usually takes me 2-3 months to get one set of 3 sites where I want them to be, but that is still 12 or so sites a year. However, if I have one that starts to make me money that wasn't before, I will go back and try to build it up.

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