How does anyone make money with Amazon?

by jodiesmitham 200 replies
Hi all,

I'm on my third Amazon affiliate website, yet I haven't made a dime. My other websites have been using Adsense and the general feeling on this forum is that Amazon affilate websites make more money than Adsense.

I thought I would give Amazon another go and although I get small traffic, many click through to Amazon, but NO SALES! The site is a month old and my other two sites are nearly a year old.

I've played around with copy on my website to emphasise the need to buy the product now, but I'm getting fed up of wasting my time on Amazon sites.

I have 10 reviews on my site, each around 500 words with images and YouTube embedded videos. I have a three links per review:

- an Amazon buy now graphic near the top
- a 'click here for reviews' link in the middle
- big buy now graphic to Amazon

I just don't get how anyone makes money with Amazon!
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  • Profile picture of the author masterjani
    When you targeting a product, Always write one to two follow up reviews and add the product rating as well. This will give more leads.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    The only way you'll make any decent money with Amazon is either with 100s of networked sites, hundreds of articles on each with some really hardcore SEO work done to them. I set up a 20 page site about computer monitors when I was starting 6 years ago with online junk, extremely well optimized, great reviews... 2 years later only made $10 off amazon. Got into buying traffic direct to CPA and that blew up so good bye seo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warrior X
    The biggest secret is just to send as much traffic as possible to Amazon's site. They are very good (maybe the best around) at converting visitors to sales, so just get them to the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    Jodie...

    How are you getting traffic to your sites? Is it all from organic google rankings?

    When you say small traffic, how many visits are you getting to your site?
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerherman
    Where is your traffic coming from. You may have a bunch of browsers not buyers, although your best bet is simply getting as many people to amazon as possible. They'll buy something.
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  • Profile picture of the author veheme
    It's all about traffic and a good enough page for clicks to happen. Keep it up!
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      it is a numbers game but it is also a time game, so keep waiting and keep checking those analytics.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreeMeal
    It's weird. I have some sites with hardly any traffic and they make really good sales. Then I have other sites which get loads more click throughs and make virtually nothing.

    I think it depends on the sort of traffic your pulling in. Exact product name search traffic converts brilliantly. That's what I've noticed with my own sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
      Originally Posted by FreeMeal View Post

      It's weird. I have some sites with hardly any traffic and they make really good sales. Then I have other sites which get loads more click throughs and make virtually nothing.

      I think it depends on the sort of traffic your pulling in. Exact product name search traffic converts brilliantly. That's what I've noticed with my own sites.
      Exactly.

      It sounds like the OP may be targeting "browsers", and not "buyers", by using the wrong keywords. You want to use "buying" keywords..such as exact product names and model numbers. When someone searches for a review of a product, and they use the model number, you know they are seriously looking to purchase.
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      • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
        Originally Posted by LegitIncomes View Post

        Exactly.

        It sounds like the OP may be targeting "browsers", and not "buyers", by using the wrong keywords. You want to use "buying" keywords..such as exact product names and model numbers. When someone searches for a review of a product, and they use the model number, you know they are seriously looking to purchase.
        I've just checked Google Analytics for my site and strangely I can see that exact product names/models have not generated clicks to Amazon. The clicks to Amazon are currently from those searching for the product category - the URL of my site.

        I suspect you're right - I am not targeting buyers, but I'll have to work on different keywords such as 'buy product x'.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

          I've just checked Google Analytics for my site and strangely I can see that exact product names/models have not generated clicks to Amazon. The clicks to Amazon are currently from those searching for the product category - the URL of my site.

          I suspect you're right - I am not targeting buyers, but I'll have to work on different keywords such as 'buy product x'.
          Anything with "buy" in it or "review" or "reviews" etc is a buying keyword. Once someone zones in on a specific model, he knows what he wants.

          My reviews aren't awfully long and I think that serves me well.

          How may Amazon clicks have you recorded so far?
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          • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
            So far, the clicks to Amazon are 110 and the traffic to my website is just over 400 unique visitors. Those that have clicked through have clicked on my Amazon 'buy now' graphic at the top of my reviews and have reached my website by searches in Google for my product category.
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            • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
              Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

              So far, the clicks to Amazon are 110 and the traffic to my website is just over 400 unique visitors. Those that have clicked through have clicked on my Amazon 'buy now' graphic at the top of my reviews and have reached my website by searches in Google for my product category.
              Yes you need a lot more traffic and clicks before you can really gauge how you are doing. but by the sounds of it you have chosen a good domain name if that is how they are finding you on Google.

              Keep building traffic and tracking it like you are and be sure you have contextual links also from within the text as those are the most productive I find.

              Kickin it on Amazon

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              • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
                Originally Posted by Gaz Cooper View Post

                Yes you need a lot more traffic and clicks before you can really gauge how you are doing. but by the sounds of it you have chosen a good domain name if that is how they are finding you on Google.

                Keep building traffic and tracking it like you are and be sure you have contextual links also from within the text as those are the most productive I find.

                Kickin it on Amazon

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                Thanks Gaz. How many links do you have to Amazon from your reviews?

                I am trying to drive traffic through keyword searches in Google, Yahoo answers, web 2.0 and article directories. However, I ONLY seem to be getting traffic from Google. I've tried forum posting for my niche, but most won't allow links in the signature. Is there any other way of getting targeted traffic?

                Thanks,

                Jodie
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    It is all about the traffic. You have to make sure the reviews feature links in the right places to get the traffic to amazon. After that, you just have to trust that amazon will do their job. It's not a quick process to make money with amazon, but you can do it if you put in the time and keep building traffic to your reviews.

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  • Profile picture of the author stevet563
    Hi,

    Please allow me to help with this matter.

    Please keep in mind that Amazon in this case is a supplier of goods.
    You are the seller of those goods.

    If you are not getting results you have to ask yourself the question " are other people making money selling this product?"

    Do a quick goolge search fro your product. Are there a lot of ads to the right?
    If there are that means people are paying for ads there and if there are more than 3 or 4
    there, somebody's making money.

    click on those ads. See what they're selling. How much? Can Amazon compete?

    Another thing you may want to consider is what I call the POWER OF ONE

    One product. One website. One target market.

    Think of who your ideal prospect will be. Go to Google adwords keyword tool. Search your keyword for more results.

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    Pm me and I'll be happy to help.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
      Originally Posted by stevet563 View Post

      Hi,
      Please keep in mind that Amazon in this case is a supplier of goods.
      You are the seller of those goods.
      Completly disagree with that, its your job to PREsell and Amazons job to sell, they are the absolute best at selling (conversions) so let them do their thing.

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      • Profile picture of the author stevet563
        Originally Posted by Andy Hart View Post

        Completly disagree with that, its your job to PREsell and Amazons job to sell, they are the absolute best at selling (conversions) so let them do their thing.

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        You're absolutely right, Andy. I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    "It's the keywords stupid!"

    That's what someone told me years ago when I was starting out and I'll pass it along to you. In some niches, "product name" + "ratings" or "reviews" works like gangbusters. In other niches, "what's the best" + "product" works wonders. Also, you indicated that you've got a big button at the bottom. That's not the way, people are much more savvy than that today. Talk about the product, in a natural way prompt them to click on the link to get that cookie. Do it like this: That comes in several colors, see them here. Or see what others are saying about the product. Or, I saw this at a discount here. That should help out a lot. It will make the difference between success and failure. ALSO, this is important, try to capture each visitor by offering a buyer's guide to those products (of course, you should have your affiliate links in there) to get them on your list. Then, you can send them reviews of new related products.
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    How do you know they are clicking thru to Amazon? Is this Amazon stats or some other site you are using to see stats? Because if you are getting a lot of clicks and have had no sales in over a year then it may be that your affiliate link is incorrect. Check your affiliate links and make sure you have it right and have included the country code on the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
    The key to any websites success is TRAFFIC and without traffic then any website is dead in the water.

    Additionally its no good attracting targeted traffic if when they get there you are not giving them what they are searching for.

    The key with Amazon sites is to provide IN DEPTH information on the product in question, be sure you have an really great informational review on the product try to make it entertaining and informative at the same time.

    Be sure you are using multiple methods of attracting traffic including review VIDEOS which can increase traffic dramatically especially if you make a nice video.

    Video is even more important after the latest Panda update when your site may of been slapped into oblivion because video is really easy to rank so you can still get traffic to your Amazon sites while you adjust to the latest changes within Google.

    For those that would like to see an article that give a rough idea of what might be a decent article here is one I made as an example

    Please note: This specifically provided as a guide on how a decent article can be put together using text and videos personalizing it, and how it can be laid out. I used a brand name quite by accident and I do not recommend you register a brand in your domain.

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    Amazon is something that takes time and effort but you have to realize once you start making sales and build up the Authority of your site the money and sales will start to consistently come in, most give up way before that happens.

    Kickin it on Amazon

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    • Profile picture of the author zonkow
      Originally Posted by Gaz Cooper View Post

      The key to any websites success is TRAFFIC and without traffic then any website is dead in the water.

      Additionally its no good attracting targeted traffic if when they get there you are not giving them what they are searching for.

      The key with Amazon sites is to provide IN DEPTH information on the product in question, be sure you have an really great informational review on the product try to make it entertaining and informative at the same time.

      Be sure you are using multiple methods of attracting traffic including review VIDEOS which can increase traffic dramatically especially if you make a nice video.

      Video is even more important after the latest Panda update when your site may of been slapped into oblivion because video is really easy to rank so you can still get traffic to your Amazon sites while you adjust to the latest changes within Google.

      For those that would like to see an article that give a rough idea of what might be a decent article here is one I made as an example

      Please note: This specifically provided as a guide on how a decent article can be put together using text and videos personalizing it, and how it can be laid out. I used a brand name quite by accident and I do not recommend you register a brand in your domain.

      Galaxy Note Review

      Amazon is something that takes time and effort but you have to realize once you start making sales and build up the Authority of your site the money and sales will start to consistently come in, most give up way before that happens.

      Kickin it on Amazon

      Gaz Cooper
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      Gaz, I see you put a lot of affiliate links in this review.
      Is this still safe after penguin?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Jodie....

    I do very, very well with amazon. It's important that you target products that are easy to rank and that you catch people late in the buying cycle. What I do is promote products that are very low competition and variations that people use when they are ready to buy.

    What this does is allow me to rank with virtually no backlinking and the traffic I get converts very well due to the keywords that I target.

    So, in summary: target low competition products, rank easily, make money. Of course the devil is always in the details. My personal blueprint below explains how I choose products and shows a full-page diagram of how I structure my own reviews.

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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Jodie....

      I do very, very well with amazon. It's important that you target products that are easy to rank and that you catch people late in the buying cycle. What I do is promote products that are very low competition and variations that people use when they are ready to buy.

      What this does is allow me to rank with virtually no backlinking and the traffic I get converts very well due to the keywords that I target.

      So, in summary: target low competition products, rank easily, make money. Of course the devil is always in the details. My personal blueprint below explains how I choose products and shows a full-page diagram of how I structure my own reviews.

      Tom
      Nice Tom. Are you using all PPC or organic traffic?

      Just an FYI I took a quick peek at your sites at your signature links and did not see an FTC disclosure notice. You may want to add that unless I missed it.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

        Nice Tom. Are you using all PPC or organic traffic?

        Just an FYI I took a quick peek at your sites at your signature links and did not see an FTC disclosure notice. You may want to add that unless I missed it.
        I rely primarily on organic. Thanks for the heads up on the FTC stuff. I started the site and it kind of took off. Theres still much to be done with it, including disclosures and such.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Jodie....

      I do very, very well with amazon. It's important that you target products that are easy to rank and that you catch people late in the buying cycle. What I do is promote products that are very low competition and variations that people use when they are ready to buy.

      What this does is allow me to rank with virtually no backlinking and the traffic I get converts very well due to the keywords that I target.

      So, in summary: target low competition products, rank easily, make money. Of course the devil is always in the details. My personal blueprint below explains how I choose products and shows a full-page diagram of how I structure my own reviews.

      Tom
      Tom,

      What is your criteria for low competition products? Do you find high rated products on Amazon and then do something like an exact search on Google to see the number of competing pages?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

        Tom,

        What is your criteria for low competition products? Do you find high rated products on Amazon and then do something like an exact search on Google to see the number of competing pages?
        I do consider the number of competing pages to a degree. However, it's not my primary indicator as it is a very bad indicator when taken in vacuum. Low competition products are are products that very few people are promoting and those that are promoting them are doing so via very weak pages/sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author spen
      Hi wolfmmiii

      Can I ask a question?
      How to choose low competition amazon products, I have a amazon niche site for almost a year, but no earn money.
      many thanks

      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Jodie....

      I do very, very well with amazon. It's important that you target products that are easy to rank and that you catch people late in the buying cycle. What I do is promote products that are very low competition and variations that people use when they are ready to buy.

      What this does is allow me to rank with virtually no backlinking and the traffic I get converts very well due to the keywords that I target.

      So, in summary: target low competition products, rank easily, make money. Of course the devil is always in the details. My personal blueprint below explains how I choose products and shows a full-page diagram of how I structure my own reviews.

      Tom
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by spen View Post

        Hi wolfmmiii

        Can I ask a question?
        How to choose low competition amazon products, I have a amazon niche site for almost a year, but no earn money.
        many thanks
        I simply stick with a niche I know and pick out products from that niche randomly, search for them, and see what the competition on page one looks like. I don't bother with keyword research or keyword tools or backlinking. I also use my own tools to find products.
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        • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          I simply stick with a niche I know and pick out products from that niche randomly, search for them, and see what the competition on page one looks like. I don't bother with keyword research or keyword tools or backlinking. I also use my own tools to find products.
          Do you create a new site for each product or do you keep within one website i.e. www.mywebsite.com/productx?
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

            Do you create a new site for each product or do you keep within one website i.e. www.mywebsite.com/productx?
            My sites are niche-based and promote dozens, if not hundreds of related products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jasonsc
    Two things that I would make quick note of:

    Firstly, I've seen a few people in this thread saying that traffic is the key. I would focus on targetted traffic as you can offer these people more value, and as such they will be more likely to click through to Amazon and follow through with a purchase.

    Secondly, if none of your sites are making money ... then why have you three of them? In my opinion you should dedicate all of your focus to one website, practice and figure out what works for you, then perfect it and then you can replicate it with more websites if you like. But you have to focus and learn on one first ... if your focus is spread over several websites then you're less likely to succeed in the long run.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
      Originally Posted by Jasonsc View Post

      Two things that I would make quick note of:

      Firstly, I've seen a few people in this thread saying that traffic is the key. I would focus on targetted traffic as you can offer these people more value, and as such they will be more likely to click through to Amazon and follow through with a purchase.

      Secondly, if none of your sites are making money ... then why have you three of them? In my opinion you should dedicate all of your focus to one website, practice and figure out what works for you, then perfect it and then you can replicate it with more websites if you like. But you have to focus and learn on one first ... if your focus is spread over several websites then you're less likely to succeed in the long run.

      Good luck!
      Absolutely targeted traffic is key.
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  • Profile picture of the author CyborgX
    Thanks for the tips everyone. Its always nice to have someone else's way of making $ from . I have yet to be successful with amazon (over 300 clicks and no sales!) but hoping that will change soon. Thanks again!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
      Originally Posted by Tear Stalker View Post

      Thanks for the tips everyone. Its always nice to have someone else's way of making $ from . I have yet to be successful with amazon (over 300 clicks and no sales!) but hoping that will change soon. Thanks again!
      Tear Stalker....

      If you're over 300 clicks and no sales, it's time to start tweaking your site! I will send you a PM with some ideas....

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  • Profile picture of the author lukedidit
    Most of my sales come from people purchasing other items, so I have a few different sites all feeding into the same affiliate account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
    Tom is correct that by targeting very low competition products and buying keywords, will be a recipe for success, in fact I have a new software coming out very soon on a WSO that hunts out these exact products Tom is talking about, I am already using it and I am ranking products in 15 minutes to an Hour from scratch (all recorded) for low competition products works like a charm and is a good recipe to follow.

    Traffic is still the key (as Jason rightly said Targeted Traffic, but I don't know any other sort and by targeting these low competition products you can quickly slip into Google results and start building significant traffic leaving others to fight over the higher competitive products.

    I made an error on my first post with the example to a review article I posted as I put the wrong url it is now correct so for those that clicked it and thought WTF have another go

    Kickin it on Amazon

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  • Profile picture of the author Krisz Rokk
    Targetted traffic is key. I'm using Amazon Kindle (currently selling my eBooks). The market is growing at fast pace...
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  • Profile picture of the author WinstonTian
    Oh yeah, some people made a point.

    But the point is, Amazon has some assets you can use. It has incredible credibility...Which creates a form of security for the home prospect. The commission rate's really bad, but the main power lies in its "upsells".

    Amazon has this "Recommended for you" section that nearly always draws in extra purchases. You get this delightful payment... I once got over $2000+ worth in up-sells from someone who got crazy over purchases in Amazon.

    And, the real magic's in pre-selling. That's the magic. Conversions. If you don't convert, you don't get customers to the Amazon page. And, obviously, you won't get any money.

    Focus on that.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
    focus on keyword. Video marketing is also cool to generate traffic to your amazon website
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Some top affiliate marketers who are really banging it on Amazon often use alternative marketing methods such as building lists of buyers for promoting additional products, article syndication, offline advertising, direct mail, telemarketing, and even direct sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    amazing thread here.

    @ Gaz Cooper,the link to the galaxy mini site you have shown here, this is one product mini site.

    Is such a business model as amazon affiliate better, as when I have 1 website with 5 or 10 product pages?

    What is about the search volume for such a one page-one product mini site?
    If I have a niche product keyword say about 200 search volume in google tool like;

    xpro5000 crosstrainer, when I rank on spot 4-5 on google page one, I will get max.10% of this traffic who is 20 users. But from these 20 users I don't believe that I make 2,5 ore more sales with such a one page mini site?

    Or you can say that from this example of 20 users, the conversion rate would be higher than 2%???

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Marco...I'd focus on niche sites that target multiple products rather than sites that target a single product. What happens when that product goes away?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Actually, you are more likely to have much higher conversions with one or two products on a niche site. When given too many choices, most people simply choose to move on rather than make a decision. However, Amazon's excellent conversion system will provide a nice variety of other products for your buyers/prospects.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Actually, you are more likely to have much higher conversions with one or two products on a niche site.
        I would agree if you offered multiple choices on one page. However, building a niche-based authority site with each review focusing on one product is fine. Building fifty 1-product sites just isn't cost (or time) effective.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          I would agree if you offered multiple choices on one page. However, building a niche-based authority site with each review focusing on one product is fine. Building fifty 1-product sites just isn't cost (or time) effective.
          So your saying create a generic site that promotes multiple products, right? Like productreviews.com and on there it shows your articles for the products your trying to sell?
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by Sillysoft View Post

            So your saying create a generic site that promotes multiple products, right? Like productreviews.com and on there it shows your articles for the products your trying to sell?
            Well, not necessarily a generic site. If you are into home improvement or power tools, you could create a site like PetesPowerTools (or whatever) and provide reviews of power tools.

            My preference is to do that and review one product per post.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Building fifty 1-product sites just isn't cost (or time) effective.
          It could be extremely cost (or time) effective for even hundreds of single product sites for example in the 3-5 figure price range. But, that depends of course on one's marketing and conversion model. See post #30.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            It could be extremely cost (or time) effective for even hundreds of single product sites for example in the 3-5 figure price range. But, that depends of course on one's marketing and conversion model. See post #30.
            Those marketing methods can be just as easily implemented with a single (or a few) authority niche sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
    The people that make big money off Amazon are the ones that create products on 'how to make money with Amazon' and sell them to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

      The people that make big money off Amazon are the ones that create products on 'how to make money with Amazon' and sell them to you.
      You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
      Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

      The people that make big money off Amazon are the ones that create products on 'how to make money with Amazon' and sell them to you.
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing.
      No, thank you for validating that opinion...

      Take a look at the signature link you're desperately pimping throughout this thread...
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

        No, thank you for validating that opinion...

        Take a look at the signature link you're desperately pimping throughout this thread...
        No desperation here. I'll be vacationing to California in July and it's paid for by my Amazon income. So, again, thanks for voicing your opinion. Appreciate it.

        Do you have anything useful to contribute to the thread or would you prefer to continue trolling?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post


          Do you have anything useful to contribute to the thread or would you prefer to continue trolling?
          People who are searching for product specific things are buyers... Amazon is all buyer traffic.

          Instead of promoting Amazon stuff for pennies...

          You're better off leveraging the amount of buyer traffic your site is receiving by pairing up that traffic with higher paying offers.

          For instance, your site is pimping drills or home improvement type stuff for sale on Amazon, use that buyer traffic to build a list and promote higher paying Clickbank products or promote a CPA submit offer for a free 'home depot' gift card.

          Or, with Amazon books, see if a particular author will fill out an extremely short questionnaire answering questions about the book and how they got started writing.

          The traffic that lands on your site are typically buyers... these people that buy books would love to learn how to create their own and sell them.

          Those are just two off the top of my head...
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

            your site is pimping drills or home improvement type stuff for sale on Amazon, use that traffic to build a list and promote higher paying Clickbank products
            ... or Amazon products in the 4-5 figure price range such as home decorations, appliances, gardening tractors, and home improvement equipment.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              ... or Amazon products in the 4-5 figure price range such as home decorations, appliances, gardening tractors, and home improvement equipment.
              glad that's working out for you...
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    So do you guys find amazon more lucrative or easier to use than clickbank?

    Is it like comparing apples & oranges? Was able to make a few bucks off clickbank but I think its time to move over to amazon after all the threads I see just on amazon.

    -Red
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      So do you guys find amazon more lucrative or easier to use than clickbank?

      Is it like comparing apples & oranges? Was able to make a few bucks off clickbank but I think its time to move over to amazon after all the threads I see just on amazon.

      -Red
      I've never done alot with Clickbank so take my opinion with a grain of salt. IMHO, Amazon would be the easier nut to crack because there are no cheesy sales letters that permeate Clickbank nor do Amazon products require a ton of pre-selling (Amazon does a good job of selling itself).

      Also, many of my Amazon sales are products I don't even promote. I wouldn't think you'd get those ancillary sales when promoting Clickbank products.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      You can effectively sell both Clicbank and Amazon products. What I do is use Clickbank mostly for generating buyer lists in several dozen niches. Then these lists are emailed with incrementally higher end Amazon product promotions. Even though Amazon has less percentage in commission, the wide variety, conversion system and high end price points (well into five figures or more) makes it a far more lucrative alternative in the long run.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        You can effectively sell both Clicbank and Amazon products. What I do is use Clickbank mostly for generating buyer lists in several dozen niches. Then these lists are emailed with incrementally higher end Amazon product promotions. Even though Amazon has less percentage in commission, the wide variety, conversion system and high end price points (well into five figures or more) makes it a far more lucrative alternative in the long run.
        Not bad...
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  • Profile picture of the author JayKnight
    Pretty good info in this thread. Been trying to come up with a game plan and kind of dismissed Amazon due to past experiences, but that was prior to finding WF and having a better idea of how everything puts together.

    My main concern is traffic, that it's always been my issue with any project I've attempted so far. On top of the low commission percent from Amazon, it just has seemed difficult for it to be worth while. Maybe I'll give it more thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      Originally Posted by JayKnight View Post

      Pretty good info in this thread. Been trying to come up with a game plan and kind of dismissed Amazon due to past experiences
      This is the same problem I have had. I've tried Amazon before on a few websites, then resorted to Adsense because I was sending traffic to Amazon but there were no conversions. That's why I started this thread - because I just can't see how anyone makes money via Amazon. I know people do, but I think it may be down to convincing the visitor that they MUST but the product straight away. This must be where I am going wrong. If it was my website or my copy, there would be no clicks to Amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author fenixpro
    Hello Op,

    Yes, if you are building sites and monetizing them with Amazon, I would encourage the following. Then again, this is no guarantee. Sometimes the volume or conversions we think should be there just aren't:

    - Solid KWR
    - Build simple sites with around 5 pages of content and one review article
    - Do not put Amazon on site for around the first 30 days of site
    - Do simple SEO (either one time or cheap monthly social stuff - it's not worth it in my opinion and experience to do too much until you know you have a converting site that can rank)
    - Add content at the rate and scale of 1 review article for every 3-5 content "info" articles. Have the review AND 'info' articles target longtail keywords.
    - Do this until you hit 50 content articles and 10-15 review articles and then reassess. This much content even with minimal or no SEO should bring good traffic.
    - If successful with traffic, continue to add content
    - If traffic coming but no conversions, well, you need to look at your site structure and review types. Your main goal is to get the visitor to the Amazon site itself where you will then get credit for anything they buy on that visit.
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    • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
      Originally Posted by fenixpro View Post

      Hello Op,

      Yes, if you are building sites and monetizing them with Amazon, I would encourage the following. Then again, this is no guarantee. Sometimes the volume or conversions we think should be there just aren't:

      - Solid KWR
      - Build simple sites with around 5 pages of content and one review article
      - Do not put Amazon on site for around the first 30 days of site
      - Do simple SEO (either one time or cheap monthly social stuff - it's not worth it in my opinion and experience to do too much until you know you have a converting site that can rank)
      - Add content at the rate and scale of 1 review article for every 3-5 content "info" articles. Have the review AND 'info' articles target longtail keywords.
      - Do this until you hit 50 content articles and 10-15 review articles and then reassess. This much content even with minimal or no SEO should bring good traffic.
      - If successful with traffic, continue to add content
      - If traffic coming but no conversions, well, you need to look at your site structure and review types. Your main goal is to get the visitor to the Amazon site itself where you will then get credit for anything they buy on that visit.
      This is a good plan, however, I take a different approach. Like fenixpro said, it's no guarantee that it will work, but it gives you another option.

      1. Buy domain name that fits the general idea of your review site/blog
      2. Create a homepage of 1,500+ words talking about the general subject of the products you plan to review
      3. Create 5-10 category page with unique content on all of them (if you use unique content you don't have to noindex these and google will rank them pretty well). I do 1,000+ words for these
      4. Create 5-10 reviews for each category. I do 3-5 a week and rotate through my categories.

      Linking

      I link my homepage only to my category pages, then my category pages to my reviews. Only within my reviews do I link to the amazon products. I don't use any banner ads or anything else at all!!

      5. Build a network of 30-50 Web 2.0 sites around your homepage and 5-8 around each category page. You can do 5-8 around your reviews as well.
      **I use all long tail keyword phrases for these to get them to rank here and there too.

      6. Social media link EVERYTHING
      7. Feed article links into EVERYTHING

      That is pretty much it and I have seen good success with this strategy.

      Benjamin
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Hi guys,

    Thanks for all your responses.

    I made sure I did my keyword research before putting the site together and found a low competition keyword with 2,000 exact matches per month, which the site is based on.

    I've written 10 reviews and a number of blog posts about the best products etc. I am now ranking 6th for my keyword in Google and have a number of long tail searches including 'product x review' etc so I know the traffic is really targeted.

    I am using Amazon's stats to see how many have clicked through.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Hi guys,

      Thanks for all your responses.

      I made sure I did my keyword research before putting the site together and found a low competition keyword with 2,000 exact matches per month, which the site is based on.

      I've written 10 reviews and a number of blog posts about the best products etc. I am now ranking 6th for my keyword in Google and have a number of long tail searches including 'product x review' etc so I know the traffic is really targeted.

      I am using Amazon's stats to see how many have clicked through.
      Awesome. The strategy definitely works.
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      • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Awesome. The strategy definitely works.
        Thanks, I really hope so. Problem is, after nearly 400 unique visitors and over 100 click thrus to Amazon, I am still not seeing any sales. Although this is not much traffic, statistically I should have seen at least one sale by now?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

          Thanks, I really hope so. Problem is, after nearly 400 unique visitors and over 100 click thrus to Amazon, I am still not seeing any sales. Although this is not much traffic, statistically I should have seen at least one sale by now?
          No necessarily. Remember, a solid 5% conversion rate would mean that you only should have 5 sales. You can make that up in your next 20 clicks.

          Make sure the traffic you are seeing is targeted and that the visitors are looking to buy and not browse.
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  • Profile picture of the author fisomt
    I bought, and had a word-press blog set up for me, I don't know how advanced you are, however I used micro-soft ad-center to drive traffic, did pretty good in the busy month of December. I would not use paid ad traffic unless you know what you are doing, you could lose a lot. I used a brand name keyword, but had to alter my ads
    you can not use the brand name in your ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, yes when I make a 5 page micro amazon product site (summary 5 products) and each product has say 200 search volume and 2 page views, I will get 2000 traffic (on first spot in google) , on spot 4-5 on google page one it will be Ithink around 400-500 traffic in month, but with a good written review from this target traffic 2% conversions.

    This example is better as only a one page product site like the galaxy phone site, then with this I have only traffic from 1 keyword, with the model above I have traffic from 5 keywords.

    A strong focus theme I will use, the visitor does not have many choices, click to amazon or go,more choices are deadful for amazon affiliate business, like adsense there is the same-give them no choices.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    how I put the amazon 5star customer review image in my website?
    Is there a plugin?
    Copy &paste does not work correct.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author casablancas
    With Amazon just focus on getting the user to click on the link so you get your 30day tracking period. You will get most of your commissions from completely unrelated products.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by casablancas View Post

      With Amazon just focus on getting the user to click on the link so you get your 30day tracking period. You will get most of your commissions from completely unrelated products.
      Amazon cookies are only 24 hours, not 30 days.
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  • Profile picture of the author quickservice7
    fenixpro describe very good point to keep in mind. structure of your site and your keyword research and promotion techniques also has an impact.
    Embedded youtube video on your site and posting review articles are not enough to make your site as a income source. Social networking, bookmarking and authority backling to your site also very important but one thing also let me clear that do not go for quantity go with quality linking techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    I personally feel that it's sometimes best to take a step back and join a Amazon Coaching Program. There are some great guys in this forum who coach properly. We might think we have mastered it but when you go on this training, there are bits of the puzzle we missed out on. So having a coach/mentor can really help if you are struggling to make money
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    Have you checked your links with Amazons link checker to make sure they are working correctly? It may be obvious if you've had sites up for a year but you never know.
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      Originally Posted by alistair View Post

      Have you checked your links with Amazons link checker to make sure they are working correctly? It may be obvious if you've had sites up for a year but you never know.
      Thanks for the advice. I did check the links and all is well. Amazon identifies traffic from my site as I see the click thru figure climbing throughout the month, but just no sales.

      I reckon it must be the price when they get to Amazon (I'm not displaying prices on my site). Does anyone know if there is a free WP plugin to pull in just the price?

      Thanks,

      J
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  • Profile picture of the author Tropic
    Great thread...

    If someone clicks your affiliate link for 1 product but they don't buy it - instead they browse amazon and buy something else do you get credit?

    And if so how long is Your affiliate cookie active -- 1 visit, 24 hours etc.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Tropic View Post

      Great thread...

      If someone clicks your affiliate link for 1 product but they don't buy it - instead they browse amazon and buy something else do you get credit?

      And if so how long is Your affiliate cookie active -- 1 visit, 24 hours etc.

      Thanks
      This is exactly how I make lots of my sales. Regular Amazon cookies are 24 hours. Once a visitor clicks your link, you have 24 hours for them to buy whatever they like and you will be credited when those items ship.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tropic
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        This is exactly how I make lots of my sales. Regular Amazon cookies are 24 hours. Once a visitor clicks your link, you have 24 hours for them to buy whatever they like and you will be credited when those items ship.
        sweet!

        /random notes

        so maybe some people can have all the bells and whistles they want ... but at the end of the day you just want to get them "clicking" over to amazon and let big "A" do the all the work

        in fact, maybe being too specific and hung up on pushing 1 product might even hurt you (the decision becomes do I need this specific product or not) if no = NO click thru for YOU

        (whats your CTR from your site to amazon?)

        -instead ALSO promote the awesomeness of amazon - the benefits - the shipping - the holidays (fathers day anyone?) and then let the user get lost surfing the wave of products they might buy something you get credit for

        so the compelling "text links" idea - ie. link =- "see what Lady Gaga is getting her dad for fathers day" versus a played out - Buy Now button at the end seems good

        ----
        so my 1st goal is going to be push what i'm selling - and then 2nd sell amazon (because you always need a gift for someone)

        and in America there is always a holiday - or one coming soon - hey it's only june and I already see a xmas tree at my starbucks

        so don't forget to push Capitalism, push consumerism, push BUYING - not just your specific product or whatever you are "reviewing"
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  • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
    Can you post a link to your sites? I'm surprised that so much advice has been posted without anyone actually asking this. The answer could be right in front of your face and some feedback might help you see what you've been overlooking.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    What keywords are people finding your site with? Also, remember, basing anything on 100 or so clicks is very premature.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hasanabd
    I am starting my amazon product website , hope to make money
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Hasanabd View Post

      I am starting my amazon product website , hope to make money
      Target the right buying terms of products you can rank for and you should have no problems.
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  • Profile picture of the author miltonolave
    I have won some money with amazon. How to work with Amazon is not with banners, you must have a site and work hard to get traffic. First of all, the theme must be about something that people buy, for example, digital cameras, if people are looking for a camera or accessory and you talk about that and you have a link to amazon, people buy. It is advisable to place the links in the middle of the article, the banners and pictures work very little.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattBrighton
    Its a hit or miss. Make sure your aiming for good niches and your content is real quality stuff, no outsourced articles from fiverr!
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Can you promote ANYTHING on amazon?

    I think I want to promote music equipment because its so damn expensive yet producers are always buying new stuff. Plus its a niche I know a ton about.

    So if I want to target the Waldorf Blofeld, should I be targeting keywords like "waldorf blofeld reviews" or "buy a waldorf blodfeld now"?

    You guys are saying "long tailed", so maybe I can target something like "reviews on new waldorf blofeld synthesizer". Well its not that new anymore, but I know the day that synth was released there were videos all over youtube, all over music forums, basically everywhere.

    So I'm probably targeted a more competitive product.

    I find keyword research to be the hardest thing to understand in all honesty there are SO MANY keywords that I never know which to target. Like I can do a review targeting the keywords "which is better waldorf blofeld or novation xiosynth" I think I just need to start doing a crapton of keyword research and learn all the rules of the game.

    It doesn't seem that hard to make money off amazon because I've bought most my music equipment by watching product reviews off youtube. Then when I found this forum I got so pissed off realizing most the reviews had agendas behind them lol.

    That does it though, I'm getting tired of watching people make money off amazon I'm just going to go crazy making youtube video product reviews and we'll see what happens.

    -Red
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaymark
    The trick is to find a popular product and then create a page which ranks higher than most others. For example you can create a landing page for a new HDTV model and then direct the visitor to the Amazon affiliate page.

    It can be difficult but it also can be done. Getting your site to rank high for desired keywords takes time and effort but stick with it. There are plenty of free resources to help you as well.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author IMVIKING
    I have a very big market I promote and I am almost the only one, so yes you can make money with it
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      Originally Posted by IMVIKING View Post

      I have a very big market I promote and I am almost the only one, so yes you can make money with it
      Is there specific copy or layout that pushes the visitor to buy? I'm really interested to find out from those that are successful with Amazon what was tested on their sites and how conversions were improved.

      Someone on this forum suggested a few weeks ago that including a screen capture of an Amazon video (rather than embed the video within the review) improves the CTR, which is invaluable. I'm wondering if there are any other tips to help with CTR and conversion.
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      • Profile picture of the author Norman Smith
        Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

        Is there specific copy or layout that pushes the visitor to buy? I'm really interested to find out from those that are successful with Amazon what was tested on their sites and how conversions were improved.

        Someone on this forum suggested a few weeks ago that including a screen capture of an Amazon video (rather than embed the video within the review) improves the CTR, which is invaluable. I'm wondering if there are any other tips to help with CTR and conversion.
        Yes there are good and bad layouts, the idea is to get the visitor over to Amazon as quickly as possible. They have one of the best sales conversion funnels and spend tens of thousands of dollars to improve it. Is your traffic International do you have different buy buttons for them ?US traffic needs a US link, UK traffic needs the UK link etc.
        Look at it differently not how much money you have taken BUT how many visitors and the conversion rate, get these numbers improved and you will make money with Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    My noob question;

    its not easy to find specific product keywords who are profitable.
    When I type my keyword like panasonic tms 3000 or so in google insights (local USA,year 2011), its showing not search volume, no data (data is not enough google said).

    All specific product keywords I have found last week, shows in google insights, filter; usa, year 2011; "the data volume is not enough to show image"

    Example like such a buyer keyword like this;proform cross trainer 970
    google insights shows no data, not enough.

    I stand on my head to find specific niche product keywords who are profitable.

    So when this keyword in google external tool has a local exact search volume of 100 and nothing in google insights, this is not a profitable keyword?

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author keithotzkie
    All information were good..
    Ive been bothering the same question too..
    Thanks for all the people who replied..
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Same problem with herman miller chairs, popular items on ebay,

    Non one of them specific product named chairs has data in google external tool, no data in semrush and no data in google insight for search.

    Great when you found no popular items with a decent search volume, great very great
    aaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhh........

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Now I think I concentrate my niche search on amazon best seller, and look if there are related items showing, when yes, then its a market.

    Then I copy 10-20 product nich ekeywords and put them into the google tool to check their search volume.

    Then select the keywords with the highest search volume and check each keyword on soc;
    intitle:"keyword" + inurl:"keyword" + inanchor:"keyword"

    and then the keywords who has a soc under 10.000, I check the competition on google first page with firefox seoquake.

    Then I use the keywords who have a KPI under 1,9.

    This folks is damm hard work, I sit down a week or so to find one niche and subniche keywords.

    Are there recommend fiverrr gigs who do the work and find such niche and subniche buyer keywords for me?

    I will not buy in semrush or wordstream or any tool.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi

    my 2cents questions to the amazon affiliate professionals ;

    I think search for products who is almost selling in catalogs too,this products people will buying online. Products as office desks or so as an example not, people will see it before they buy it.

    Or expensive watches, I think people not buying these watches online, they will see it before???

    ???? Is that correct?

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi

      my 2cents questions to the amazon affiliate professionals ;

      I think search for products who is almost selling in catalogs too,this products people will buying online. Products as office desks or so as an example not, people will see it before they buy it.

      Or expensive watches, I think people not buying these watches online, they will see it before???

      ???? Is that correct?


      best wishes
      marco005
      Many high dollar purchases are made online, simply because the price is lower. ..and for many states, there's no tax on Amazon purchases.

      In the case of the buyer wanting to see an item first, they usually go to a retail store to look at the item, and then purchase it online. That's what I did for my latest TV, as I used Best Buy as my "Amazon Showroom".
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      • Profile picture of the author zonkow
        Originally Posted by LegitIncomes View Post

        Many high dollar purchases are made online, simply because the price is lower. ..and for many states, there's no tax on Amazon purchases.

        In the case of the buyer wanting to see an item first, they usually go to a retail store to look at the item, and then purchase it online. That's what I did for my latest TV, as I used Best Buy as my "Amazon Showroom".
        Did you buy your TV through someone's affiliate link or directly from Amazon?
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        • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
          Originally Posted by zonkow View Post

          Did you buy your TV through someone's affiliate link or directly from Amazon?
          I don't remember. I did read several reviews online, so it's quite possible that I used an affiliate link.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Folks...I've seen search volume mentioned a few times in this thread. Skip the keyword tool and search volume metrics. Most product-specific keywords are going to show no search volume. That's OK.

    My sites get hundreds of visitors per day and they are all looking for very product-specific info. According to the logic that says search volume is too low, I shouldn't be seeing any traffic. That's simply not true.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Folks...I've seen search volume mentioned a few times in this thread. Skip the keyword tool and search volume metrics. Most product-specific keywords are going to show no search volume. That's OK.

      My sites get hundreds of visitors per day and they are all looking for very product-specific info. According to the logic that says search volume is too low, I shouldn't be seeing any traffic. That's simply not true.
      I've heard you mention this a few times and I've also noticed that I've sold quite a few items that have no monthly searches quite consistently. I've decided that with my authority site I'm going to target a heap of low competition products alongside the more popular ones and track the performance. Could be interesting to see how they perform against each other.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong View Post

        I'm going to target a heap of low competition products
        This is virtually all I do. Sure, I don't get as much traffic as more generic, high-traffic terms. However, the traffic I do get converts. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense.

        The best part is that I don't have to break my back with all kinds of link-building schemes. My sites usually rank very well because of the lack of competition.
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        • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          This is virtually all I do. Sure, I don't get as much traffic as more generic, high-traffic terms. However, the traffic I do get converts. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense.
          It does make sense. What kind of structure do you use for the keyword i.e.

          - buy product x
          - review product x
          - product x

          Or all three? I've gone for 'review product x' but those that are visiting my site using those keywords are not converting.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

            It does make sense. What kind of structure do you use for the keyword i.e.

            - buy product x
            - review product x
            - product x

            Or all three? I've gone for 'review product x' but those that are visiting my site using those keywords are not converting.
            They are all late-stage "buying keywords". They should convert. I mean, they do for me. If they are generating clicks but not conversions, you should take a closer look at your reviews/content. My reviews are relatively short with strong calls to action. Make sure you don't come off too salesy - my reviews offer pros and cons to make them more balanced and real.

            Also, make sure you are considering your sample size. If you are basing your results on 100 or so affiliate clicks, the sample size is too small. Wait until you have several hundred to a thousand or so clicks and then start worrying if your conversions are poor.
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        • Profile picture of the author zonkow
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          This is virtually all I do. Sure, I don't get as much traffic as more generic, high-traffic terms. However, the traffic I do get converts. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense.

          The best part is that I don't have to break my back with all kinds of link-building schemes. My sites usually rank very well because of the lack of competition.
          Wolfmmiii, I did exactly what you advise here. I built a new site 15 days ago. Since then I have been updating it daily. I choose products that are easy to rank. So far I have uploaded 12 well written product reviews. I submit my articles to Digg and Stumbleupon to get some traffic and backlinks( I can't do more as I'm afraid of Penguin).
          However, only 2 of my reviews are ranking and they are on page 15 and 18 of Google. The others are all indexed but not even on the last page.
          Is it too early to get worried or should I change something?
          What do you advise?
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by zonkow View Post

            Wolfmmiii, I did exactly what you advise here. I built a new site 15 days ago. Since then I have been updating it daily. I choose products that are easy to rank. So far I have uploaded 12 well written product reviews. I submit my articles to Digg and Stumbleupon to get some traffic and backlinks( I can't do more as I'm afraid of Penguin).
            However, only 2 of my reviews are ranking and they are on page 15 and 18 of Google. The others are all indexed but not even on the last page.
            Is it too early to get worried or should I change something?
            What do you advise?
            I wouldn't panic quite yet. However, without knowing what products you are promoting and what terms you are targeting, it's hard to say.

            What does the first page of Google look like for your targeted terms?
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            • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              I wouldn't panic quite yet. However, without knowing what products you are promoting and what terms you are targeting, it's hard to say.

              What does the first page of Google look like for your targeted terms?
              When you look on page one what are some general things you look for that would help you decide if the product would be good to promote or not?
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              • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                Originally Posted by Sillysoft View Post

                When you look on page one what are some general things you look for that would help you decide if the product would be good to promote or not?
                I look for to two things. I look for number of competing sites and I look for lots of PR0 and PRNA sites with poor backlink profiles.

                Now, before anyone jumps in and tells me that number of competing sites is a poor metric, let me say I agree. That metric for me is far less important than the PR/backlinks of the top 10. However, I use the competing sites as a barometer of product freshness.

                Generally speaking, a product search term that turns up 4,572 competing results is more often than not newer (and less competitive) than a product with 4,567,321 competing results. That said, I do find easily rankable products that show millions of competing results so don't rely too heavily on that metric.
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            • Profile picture of the author zonkow
              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              I wouldn't panic quite yet. However, without knowing what products you are promoting and what terms you are targeting, it's hard to say.

              What does the first page of Google look like for your targeted terms?
              I use Traffic travis to analyze the top ten competitors. According to Traffic Travis, all my products are easy to rank.Most of the pages on Google 1 have 0 backlinks.
              When I look at these pages, I see that very few of them have real content. Some of them have only 3-5 sentences and some of them copied from Amazon.
              For example for one of the products, reviewscnet is on position 2 but there is nothing on this page except for the name of the product.
              I target product name and product name review.
              Two of the products are from the list which you sent your subscribers last week. So I guess it must be easy to rank. Maybe It's too early to get worried.
              I think I had better wait a little more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
    I have to agree with Wolfmmiii many times I build sites and videos on products that have NO MONTHLY searches and still get sales, in my next launch which will be soon I will be specifically showing you this method. Also if you have the work ethic the low search volum can also be very good traffic as nobody is targeting it (except me a Wolfmmiii by the looks of it. LOL

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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Lesliss289 View Post

      The biggest secret is just to send as much traffic as possible to Amazon's site. They are very good (maybe the best around) at converting visitors to sales, so just get them to the site.
      While this is certainly a viable strategy (it is a numbers game), you should send as much "buying" traffic to Amazon as you can. Your conversions will be much higher when you catch people at the right stage of the buying cycle.

      By targeting products that I can rank for, I do very, very well with Amazon every month by catching people who are ready to buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @ dear wolfmmiii, ok Im little philosophy about that again sorry please...you get sometimes a few hundred visitors from a buyer keyword that has no search volume in google tool???

    So I try to think logical....then where does this traffic came from??? From heaven (choke please )?

    Or does this traffic came from the google display network?

    Google shows no data for an high target buyer keyword,but a few hundred people search for them, why google ,semrush and so on show us no data?

    Mr.Sherlock Holmes to Mr.Watson.........." leave off all what is impossible and then you have the last result- the true" ( or so).

    Pity if I could not imagine like an Sherlock Holmes......so when I could it,I would be a millionaire.

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      @ dear wolfmmiii, ok Im little philosophy about that again sorry please...you get sometimes a few hundred visitors from a buyer keyword that has no search volume in google tool???

      So I try to think logical....then where does this traffic came from??? From heaven (choke please )?

      Or does this traffic came from the google display network?

      Google shows no data for an high target buyer keyword,but a few hundred people search for them, why google ,semrush and so on show us no data?

      Mr.Sherlock Holmes to Mr.Watson.........." leave off all what is impossible and then you have the last result- the true" ( or so).

      Pity if I could not imagine like an Sherlock Holmes......so when I could it,I would be a millionaire.

      best wishes
      marco005
      Marco....

      I gain traffic from all sorts of targeted and related terms. I'm telling you that the keyword tools are displaying incorrect data under many circumstances when it comes to many product-based queries. I know this for a fact.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    wolfmmiii, ok I will tryit!

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      wolfmmiii, ok I will tryit!

      best wishes
      marco005
      That's exactly what you have to do - just try it. Yes, some products will be duds no doubt. However, there will be others that do very well, especially if you do what I do and target newer products and low-competition products.
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  • Yes, the best bet definitely would be getting as many people to go to Amazon as possible. This would only increase your potential for earning.
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  • Profile picture of the author voidd
    my question is how much traffic is needed before i put the ads of links on my site and start trying to convert.. should i shoot for 25 a day? or 50? more?? i need a small goal to aim towards and try to hit before adding the affiliate stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Add the affiliate stuff right away. No need to wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @wolfmmiii, do you additional promoting your amazon money sites trough web2.0 sites like hubpage or squidoo or so?

    Question; When yes, on these web2.0 platforms you not write the same topic as your money site (that is stupid) you wrote in them on a more generic term like home im,provement tips or so (example)? Or does such hubpage and squidoo traffic not convert in expensive amazon products?

    Do you recommend a one coloumn theme, this is fully focused, when you have a 5 product page, the products you not have in the sidebar, you put it on the main navigation (thats for smaller sites with 5-10 pages). On a one coloumn theme the user Has absolut no choises max 2; click to amazon or go.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author peewhy
    It never ceases to surprise me where the money comes in from Amazon, I once did a Mother's Day piece and sold a fair bit of female intended gifts yet quite a lot of male stuff, and I can only assume he's shopping for her and treated himself too!
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      Originally Posted by peewhy View Post

      It never ceases to surprise me where the money comes in from Amazon, I once did a Mother's Day piece and sold a fair bit of female intended gifts yet quite a lot of male stuff, and I can only assume he's shopping for her and treated himself too!
      It must be very revealing when you look at what people buy lol.

      I am really hoping that those linking through to Amazon will purchase ANYTHING. I really don't mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Thanks very much. In general, how many sales do you get for every 100 click thrus to Amazon?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Thanks very much. In general, how many sales do you get for every 100 click thrus to Amazon?
      It depends on what I'm promoting. Some sites generate just a few sales per 100 clicks and others generate handfuls of sales. A lot depends on price, niche, content, etc. Lots of variables. The review system I released the other day is what I use to create consistent e-commerce type reviews.

      I stood up a demo site for folks who want to see how my system works and what my reviews typically look like:

      My Tool Review Blog › Log In
      username: demouser
      password password

      Go out and create a test review and see what the different formats look like. These are what my reviews generally look like.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikeb1
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        It depends on what I'm promoting. Some sites generate just a few sales per 100 clicks and others generate handfuls of sales. A lot depends on price, niche, content, etc. Lots of variables. The review system I released the other day is what I use to create consistent e-commerce type reviews.

        I stood up a demo site for folks who want to see how my system works and what my reviews typically look like:

        My Tool Review Blog › Log In
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        password password

        Go out and create a test review and see what the different formats look like. These are what my reviews generally look like.
        Thanks Wolfmmii you have contributed a lot of great value to this thread, and not just tried to pimp your wares as some have suggested, you have educated me a great deal. I will be looking at the price of your products for this reason with a defo view to buying, 2.am now will come back tomorrow. Thanks a ton for your honesty and integrity

        best Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by mikeb1 View Post

          Thanks Wolfmmii you have contributed a lot of great value to this thread, and not just tried to pimp your wares as some have suggested, you have educated me a great deal. I will be looking at the price of your products for this reason with a defo view to buying, 2.am now will come back tomorrow. Thanks a ton for your honesty and integrity

          best Mike
          Thanks Mike. I really appreciate the kind words. I'm glad that you find my information helpful. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to email or PM me. The blueprint provides an overview of how "I" do things. The review system is a framework for building a review site the way "I" do.
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          • Profile picture of the author mikeb1
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            Thanks Mike. I really appreciate the kind words. I'm glad that you find my information helpful. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to email or PM me. The blueprint provides an overview of how "I" do things. The review system is a framework for building a review site the way "I" do.
            Purchased from your website look forward to reading and putting in to practice, will review soon

            BEST Mike
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by mikeb1 View Post

              Purchased from your website look forward to reading and putting in to practice, will review soon

              BEST Mike
              Thanks Mike! Be sure to drop me a line with any questions.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveWarrior
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        It depends on what I'm promoting. Some sites generate just a few sales per 100 clicks and others generate handfuls of sales. A lot depends on price, niche, content, etc. Lots of variables. The review system I released the other day is what I use to create consistent e-commerce type reviews.

        I stood up a demo site for folks who want to see how my system works and what my reviews typically look like:

        My Tool Review Blog › Log In
        username: demouser
        password password

        Go out and create a test review and see what the different formats look like. These are what my reviews generally look like.
        Hi, I checked out the site. Looks nice. Do you find the gazpo max theme working well on your live sites?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by DaveWarrior View Post

          Hi, I checked out the site. Looks nice. Do you find the gazpo max theme working well on your live sites?
          Hi Dave...

          I use various themes (GazpoMag is just one of them). The theme, in my opinion, isn't critical as along as it is clean and easily navigable and professional looking.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Great share wolfmmiii!

    But how you make that these blue fields inyour post/page?
    Is there an plugin who do this?

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Great share wolfmmiii!

      But how you make that these blue fields inyour post/page?
      Is there an plugin who do this?

      best wishes
      marco005
      The blue Pros and Cons box is created by the review templates built into The Ultimate Product Review System, which I use to create my own sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    does shopzilla payout more than google?
    Can I check the shopzilla peyout per click with the spyfu tool too?
    (spyfu shows you the payout perclick you will earn for a keyword with adsense).

    Shopzilla has not a fix percentage of click payout like adsense they have vage options like this (from their website);

    Your earning is calculated about;

    Level, or type, of integration within your website
    Contextual relevance of the Shopzilla Publisher Program sponsored shopping content you have chosen to integrate within your website
    Nature of your website user activity
    Overall traffic quality of merchant leads, or redirects, that your website users generate to Shopzilla, Inc. merchants

    That can means anything.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    My PPC is usually $0.18 to $0.30 with Shopzilla. Much depends on the niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, not so ....I think the payout on product niches sites with adsense is higher,
    for most niche keywords I have found, spyfu shows me most 0,50-0,80, what spyfu shows ist the payout what adsense will pay you per click, I think, 0,50-0,80 is not so bad,spyfu should be reasonably accurate, many people say.

    To earn higher payouts per click like 1,50$ or more , I have found that these niches haves to heavy cometitions to heavy.

    Especially on your long tail product keyword strategie,for long product keywords like;

    Proform x5000 monitor elliptical trainer (is an example) spyfu shows no data.
    For most amazon longtail products spyfu shows no data, so that Im little uncertain to use these keywords with adsense, I think amazon is better for them.

    But a small detail with amazon, amazon pays always after 60 days (+10 days I live in europe) this is a long time.

    But I think when you make sales within these 60 days, the following checks you get the next month after the 60 day period, so your income and payout is monthly.

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      wolfmmiii, not so ....I think the payout on product niches sites with adsense is higher,
      for most niche keywords I have found, spyfu shows me most 0,50-0,80, what spyfu shows ist the payout what adsense will pay you per click, I think, 0,50-0,80 is not so bad,spyfu should be reasonably accurate, many people say.

      To earn higher payouts per click like 1,50$ or more , I have found that these niches haves to heavy cometitions to heavy.

      Especially on your long tail product keyword strategie,for long product keywords like;

      Proform x5000 monitor elliptical trainer (is an example) spyfu shows no data.
      For most amazon longtail products spyfu shows no data, so that Im little uncertain to use these keywords with adsense, I think amazon is better for them.

      But a small detail with amazon, amazon pays always after 60 days (+10 days I live in europe) this is a long time.

      But I think when you make sales within these 60 days, the following checks you get the next month after the 60 day period, so your income and payout is monthly.

      best wishes
      marco005
      If your preference is for AdSense, that's fine. For me, ShopZilla ads fit product sites much much better than AdSense, especially since I can choose what product ads to show. You can't do that with AdSense.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLeonard
    Have you considered publishing to amazon KDP? In my opinion it's a much faster way to make some pretty good money.
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  • Profile picture of the author abuhanifa
    didn't read the whole thread but i would suggest you to first get the feel of market , what is hot and then create lenses for that product . ranking a lens is much easier than ranking a web .
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, is web2.0 like squidoo a good platform to promote my own site with amazon products (direct link in the sidebar from the squidoo lense) or is the squidoo traffic worst and will not convert like 1-2% with amazon high itmes?

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Yaaay finally got a sale!
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Yaaay finally got a sale!
      There ya go. Just keep building. Once you get to a hundred or so clicks per day, you should start to see regular sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Yeah, if that's the case, I wouldn't worry yet. Provided you aren't over-SEOing your site, those kinds of sites will be easy to outrank. What I do is use Onlywire to bookmark each product page to 10-15 different sites. Once these links, no matter week, are indexed and counted, I usually see very easy rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author skeffling
    Very interesting thread. I am now having success selling Amazon on Squidoo, and am now starting some of my first ever niche sites of my own this month as I need to diversify now. So am on here, learning all I can!

    I totally agree with Wolfmmiii, you can get buying traffic when Adwords says there are no monthly searches. Adwords Estimator will give you more of a hint. Even when it says 30 or 50 monthly searches you get more visitors in longtails if you write a good review, specially with multiple items. I don't really backlink and have been coasting on Squidoo's strength to rank and ultralow competition buyer keywords.

    I never go product specific, clickouts are single digit and with barely any sales, and you have stale urls and products disappearing, so not worth the risk.

    Short 3-5 item lists of Best X X or Top X X do well, 20-40% click throughs to Amazon, and categorized lists with 3-5 products per category ortype in 3 or 5 groups or categories often get 50-70% clickouts to Amazon. Both earn about the same $ all things being equal (which they never are!).

    I am a bit nervous getting these websites going as the Squidoo is getting predictable, and I have a good idea of what works. I have had a sprinkling of organic search traffic an amazon clicks already, so no worse than the first few days of an article on Squidoo.

    I am trying a 25-30 products review site, each post with about 250-350 words. One site with 15 or 20 products and short reviews as posts. One with 5 items/posts, and 3 sites with one 1000 word article (longer than what I do on Squidoo) with 3-5 items on that one page. It's an experiment, do you guys have any pointers as what is likely to work best of these. All are mundane $50-$1000 items, some seasonal, some not.

    Jodie, your problem may be your products are a want, not a need. Needs get a higher buy rate by far, and less returns. Pick stuff people have to buy or all hell will break loose at home Well done on the sale BTW
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    but for europe people like me; I must wait 60 days before I get the amazon check and then 30 days again wgen my bank payout the check (Obligo time).

    My God absolutely impossible is that.
    It's better I promote a partner program who pays me after max.45 days per paypal; after 45 days timeout for an customer credit card cancelling,so I have not the risk of it.

    45 days is ways better than 90 days.......

    What on the Hell is so complex on a oversea bank transfer with iban and swift?
    Google adsense a big concerncan make direct bank transfer payment to my oversea bank account, any company can that. But amazon a big concern too,is not capable of it?

    How does walmart pay his worldwide suppliers-with checks???

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      but for europe people like me; I must wait 60 days before I get the amazon check and then 30 days again wgen my bank payout the check (Obligo time).

      Yes, this sucks. However, it only sucks for the first few months. Once you are earning consistently, you are paid regularly and don't even notice the delay anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, yes I have overlook this, its only in the first few months,then when I make regular sales every month, the following checks will become month after month after between these first 60 days and max 30 day waiting obligo with my bank, so I have cash bimonthly.

    I have overlook this, sorry please.

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Yeah,

    when I can have a usa bank credit lets say 5000$ mini credit fast, without bank collateral, I can make a hugher invest in this business modell and return more cash, and faster......... ........... yupp

    But I build 3 such amazon niche sites every month with 8,10-15 pages.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author equanto
    Repeat and rinse
    1 site just got you as tiny as $1 perday, then multiply it like naruto
    just got 30 site
    and then you will get almost $1000 per month
    look funny,, but that's i do
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by equanto View Post

      Repeat and rinse
      1 site just got you as tiny as $1 perday, then multiply it like naruto
      just got 30 site
      and then you will get almost $1000 per month
      look funny,, but that's i do
      There are so many other, more effective, ways to make $1000 per month that do not require dozens or hundreds of sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie123
        This may upset some people...and if it does I don't care, but the Amazon affiliate program is difficult to constantly make money on. I know when i purchase from them i go straight to the Amazon website itself and do not bother with any affiliate site. my 2 cents.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by paulie123 View Post

          This may upset some people...and if it does I don't care, but the Amazon affiliate program is difficult to constantly make money on. I know when i purchase from them i go straight to the Amazon website itself and do not bother with any affiliate site. my 2 cents.
          Why would it upset people? What I will say is that I know for a fact that not everyone is like you. I get TONS of traffic everyday to my Amazon sites and I am certain that most of it has already been to Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

    Hi all,

    I'm on my third Amazon affiliate website, yet I haven't made a dime. My other websites have been using Adsense and the general feeling on this forum is that Amazon affilate websites make more money than Adsense.

    I thought I would give Amazon another go and although I get small traffic, many click through to Amazon, but NO SALES! The site is a month old and my other two sites are nearly a year old.

    I've played around with copy on my website to emphasise the need to buy the product now, but I'm getting fed up of wasting my time on Amazon sites.

    I have 10 reviews on my site, each around 500 words with images and YouTube embedded videos. I have a three links per review:

    - an Amazon buy now graphic near the top
    - a 'click here for reviews' link in the middle
    - big buy now graphic to Amazon

    I just don't get how anyone makes money with Amazon!
    Just get plenty of traffic to your site, without spending a fortune set up a YouTube account and create a few videos with good content related to what you are trying to sell, then make sure they are well optimised and have a link to your Amazon affiliate site plus a call to action on the end of each video to click on the link, and then if they are good videos worth watching they should get plenty of views, rank high in searches and gain plenty of follow up traffic to your site, gaining high numbers of sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author spen
    Hi Gaz,
    a question
    low competition product is low price product?

    thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by spen View Post

      Hi Gaz,
      a question
      low competition product is low price product?

      thanks.
      I know this is directed at Gaz but I can answer in his absence.

      No. Low competition does not mean low price. I promote low competition products all the time and virtually all of them cost several hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars each.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    has anyone a tip for me? It's not easy to find good high product items on amazon bestseller, the most who are in price range from 800$-3000$..... they have no customer reviews, perhaps 2 or 3, ideal are 10 or more customer reviews.

    Lower price products (100-200$)in the jewelry categorie too,they have often more than 10 customer reviews for an product.

    But with 100-200$ your commission is not to high as affiliate.

    Any tip here?

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      has anyone a tip for me? It's not easy to find good high product items on amazon bestseller
      Forget the bestseller lists. Everyone and their grand-mom is promoting them. Target the things the masses aren't. It's the secret nobody wants you to know.
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  • Profile picture of the author ttdub
    Volume volume volume. How does Mcdonalds make money on their $1 menu? Lots and lots of volume.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by ttdub View Post

      Volume volume volume. How does Mcdonalds make money on their $1 menu? Lots and lots of volume.
      Actually, I think the $1 menu is actually a loss-leader. I could be wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii; not promote best seller and popularity (mass)???

    So I should look on new products/ btw. products who has more than 10 reviews (they are hard to find in the 500-1800$ price range).

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      wolfmmiii; not promote best seller and popularity (mass)???

      So I should look on new products/ btw. products who has more than 10 reviews (they are hard to find in the 500-1800$ price range).

      best wishes
      marco005
      I personally stay away from popular stuff. I'd rather target things that others aren't promoting.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    ok thanks wolfmmiii, but when I sort products from high to low, the most not have customer reviews.........pain in head ist that, you will promote high amazon tickets and most of them has no customer reviews, this means, not people buying these products on amazon.

    In the price range from 100-500$ max. there you will find more products who has 10 or more reviews, but the affiliate commission from such products are so lala, so lala......

    10 sales from products who costst 500$ I made ~200$ in month with amazon, I must scale up this to 10-20 such product sites to make 2-4000$ in month as amazon affiliate.

    2-4000$ with 10-20 amazon micro niche sites are much far better than earnings from 20 adsense micro nichi sites, who brings you perhaps 3-400$ 10 times lesser than amazon.

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii you have email from me.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author oniram
    I've built several Amazon niche sites. But before I decide on a niche I Google it and review the competition. If I find that Google is saturated with Amazon ads and Google ads on the side bar, I keep doing this until I find a niche that has very few Amazon ads and Google side bar ads. Most niches are of beat with low searches but convert well.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    oniram,how you selected your product you will promote?
    When I have products selected from high to low they have zero custoner reviews, nobody buying them.

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      oniram,how you selected your product you will promote?
      When I have products selected from high to low they have zero custoner reviews, nobody buying them.

      best wishes
      marco005
      Zero customer reviews doesn't mean nobody is buying them.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, but I know how which amazon products people buy?
    I have seen now I can select in the left menue in amazon the customer average, price range etc and so on I have overlook this.

    But I can see that many many expensive products have zero reviews max 2-3, yes amazon has products in price range from 300-700$ who has more than 10 customer reviews, I think this is a sweet point.

    Products over 700$ I found not have reviews.

    So when I pick a product I type it in google insight to see if this product keyword is little bit popular also people search for them, when it shows a number over 45 for a keyword I think this is a good indicator not going under 45,be more then better.

    But does products who has 10 or more customer reviews are easier to ptomote/sell?

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I do very little if any research. As I mentioned in my blueprint guide, I simPly target products that very few others are promoting. Some products will get no traffic. I'm okay wih that because many others will.
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  • Profile picture of the author skeffling
    Well said, Mike b. I will be picking up the Blueprint too and a couple of other Squidoo/Amazon WSO guides when my Squidoo pay comes in. There are always more things that work, more to learn. I want to get some awesome Amazon sites set up. I already sold a $340 item this week on one of my week old niche websites! Looks like this is going to be fun!

    marco005, it seems you have a lot of reservations. It may be worth just picking something, jumping in and seeing how you d, and evolving your plan based on that. Squidoo for Amazon is free and Amazon earnings are paid by paypal. Also there are less concerns about paying for a website that doesn't work too. You can always use Squidoo to see if it is worth buying the domain for your squidoo article Kw if you are really risk averse.

    I figure if something is on Amazon, it is selling, but if you want to know what lots of people are buying, look at the sales rank of the item. Amazon tells you the popularity rank based on how many are selling.

    I find, generally the ones with low numbers of reviews are unglamorous everyday items, that are valuable but boring, a chore to buy, and either people take for granted or the reviewer won't get the "star" status they will get from doing a snobby Espresso machine review. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, what does it mean when google insights shows for a long tail keyword only 1 or 2 local states? It shows only california as example, so onlx people from california search fot this term and people in other states no?

    Should I go for another search term who has far more local states in google insights?
    Sorry for my doubled post, warriorfoum was little bit hangup.

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      wolfmmiii, what does it mean when google insights shows for a long tail keyword only 1 or 2 local states? It shows only california as example, so onlx people from california search fot this term and people in other states no?

      Should I go for another search term who has far more local states in google insights?
      Sorry for my doubled post, warriorfoum was little bit hangup.

      best wishes
      marco005
      I've used insights in the past but really haven't touched it in quite a while. As I mentioned before, the stuff I target very rarely shows any search activity in any tools. Since I know I'll rank highly for a multitude of product variations, I don't worry about search volume a a specific term anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, what does it mean when google insights shows for a long tail keyword only 1 or 2 local states?

    Should I go for another search term who has far more local states in google insights?

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, with your method, I have to leave everything else what the others make.
    Ranking with long tail buyer keywords.

    Must see that my domain-main keyword has less competition under 100.000-better 30.000 and a KPI under 1,9 ( I look for that).

    Picking longtail products from amazon is what I must doing with your method,who shows very less competition and search volume in any tool.

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
      Wolfmmiii, This is a great thread. Very informative and inspiring.

      My one question concerns backlinks...somewhere up the thread you said you use onlywire for backlinks. Can you please say a little more about this? Do you only do this once for each site to get it ranked, and then that's all?

      Is there anything else you do from time to time?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

        Wolfmmiii, This is a great thread. Very informative and inspiring.

        My one question concerns backlinks...somewhere up the thread you said you use onlywire for backlinks. Can you please say a little more about this? Do you only do this once for each site to get it ranked, and then that's all?

        Is there anything else you do from time to time?
        Thanks CatherineMay. The only backlinking I do is to auto-bookmark (using OnlyWire) and auto-ping each new post (product review). Since I target low-competition products, I usually don't have to do much more than that once that's done.
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  • Profile picture of the author WishfulDoing
    Wolfmmii, I think your approach is very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Two questions if you don't mind--

    1. When you say low competition keywords, how many searches/mo are you talking about?
    Double digits, single digits? That low?

    2. You say you go after actual product name keywords even if there are no searches listed. How do you know when there really are no searches, as many low competition products will have no search volume?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by WishfulDoing View Post

      Wolfmmii, It think your approach is very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Two questions if you don't mind--

      1. When you say low competition keywords, how many searches/mo are you talking about?
      Double digits, single digits? That low?

      2. You say you go after actual product name keywords even if there are no searches listed. How do you know when there really are no searches, as many low competition products will have no search volume?

      Thanks

      I don't even look at keyword tools when researching products to promote. I know going in that some percentage of products will be busts, others will take off, and yet others will bring in average traffic.

      For the products that bring in traffic, I also know that the traffic will come from dozens, if not hundreds, of keyword variations. The products that are "duds" are still not a total loss because they serve as good internal links to my other product pages on the site.

      When all is said and done, I put in less time than those who obsess over backlining do and I get to spend most of that time actually creating content tat people come back to read.

      For example, one of my sites was just recently referenced on Woot as a source of info for a particular product that was featured on the site. My site saw over 300 visitors in one day to just that single product alone.

      As such, I'd rather spend time getting reviews up rather than backlinking. The results are just as good (if not better) and I expend less effort.

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  • Profile picture of the author pauls_pad2002
    Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

    Hi all,

    I'm on my third Amazon affiliate website, yet I haven't made a dime. My other websites have been using Adsense and the general feeling on this forum is that Amazon affilate websites make more money than Adsense.

    I thought I would give Amazon another go and although I get small traffic, many click through to Amazon, but NO SALES! The site is a month old and my other two sites are nearly a year old.

    I've played around with copy on my website to emphasise the need to buy the product now, but I'm getting fed up of wasting my time on Amazon sites.

    I have 10 reviews on my site, each around 500 words with images and YouTube embedded videos. I have a three links per review:

    - an Amazon buy now graphic near the top
    - a 'click here for reviews' link in the middle
    - big buy now graphic to Amazon

    I just don't get how anyone makes money with Amazon!
    what are your traffic stats like. no trafiic means no money
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    • Profile picture of the author skeffling
      Wolfmii, great approach. Loved the ebook. Cheers. I think you do even more backlinking than I! Onlywire looks like a good time saver idea though. It's certainly better to spend time on good content that informs and sells.

      I think I will try your approach for some domains. What I do for Squidoo is different and not product model specific but it's still lower competition and traffic with decent ctr usually 20-70%, but sales certainly vary between product types! Sometimes you only need a handful of traffic to have buyers though. I think it depends what the item is and what they typed in to get to it!

      As I loathe the back linking, and am really not that familiar with how domains rank in comparison to Web 2.0, I may as well take a little more guesswork out of it and try a few sites with your approach!
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by skeffling View Post

        Wolfmii, great approach. Loved the ebook. Cheers. I think you do even more backlinking than I! Onlywire looks like a good time saver idea though. It's certainly better to spend time on good content that informs and sells.
        Thanks alot. Glad you liked it. You know, I say I do no backlinking but I guess in reality I do quite a bit if you consider automatic bookmarking backlinking. I always equate backlinking with manual actions. OnlyWire is definitely a time saver.
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        • Profile picture of the author pro31lady
          One thing is that you want to make sure that you have plenty of links to Amazon. I did not look at your whole site, but I did land on your Fisher Price Rainforest Gym Review and I did not find one link on that page to Amazon. So if someone is interested in that product, they will not be getting it through your link!

          Get some Amazon guides to learn what others are doing. That is what I did and I am starting to make money. Don't give up.
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  • Profile picture of the author ResearchQueen
    Some great advice and tips here. I've bookmarked the page so I can continue reading another time. Has prompted me to check my Amazon links on my site. Appreciate all contributors.
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  • Profile picture of the author NinjaIncome
    I make avg $100 / day with videos to amazon. I know other people who have multiple yahoo answer accounts and setup question-answers. Just try find all the top free places you and post content to, and get busy. I like to have a little tool I used that creates several layouts from a single amazon item Id and just copy paste that to free website builders...
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
      Originally Posted by NinjaIncome View Post

      I make avg $100 / day with videos to amazon. I know other people who have multiple yahoo answer accounts and setup question-answers. Just try find all the top free places you and post content to, and get busy. I like to have a little tool I used that creates several layouts from a single amazon item Id and just copy paste that to free website builders...
      Video marketing with Amazon is huge...no doubt about that. There's a lot of keywords that have low competiton.

      I have tried at various times to implement and even outsource Yahoo Answer campaigns to drive traffic but never had luck. It always seemed very short lived. I would love to hear how to do it correctly! It just seemed more hassle than what it's worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author AKY66
    This question may have been already asked, but if some one buys something from your amazon site that is used, or is sold by a reseller do you still get payed?
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  • Profile picture of the author toyo05
    Amazon seems like a cool venture, Ill give it a shot. Thanks for valuable info!
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  • Profile picture of the author freebuys
    Hello. that's great for you. I want to make money from Amazon and i'm trying my best to do it.
    But i think i have need to gather some knowledge about this and the easiest way to make money to carry.
    I hope after completing those things and i will be reached on my target.
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    Dont give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author keebeng90
    Traffic is definitely the main cause why people fail in their online businesses. Below are some of the ways you can get traffic:

    1. SEO - Google, Yahoo and Bing
    2. Articles writings - article directory, Emule
    3. Press release writings - if your products are proven to be effective
    4. link exchange, traffic exchange programs
    5. forums, newsgroup, community website
    6. PPC - Google Adwords, Yahoo Search Website

    They can help you to get more traffic to flow to your websites!
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Simpson
    Amazon's affiliate program is working out great for me. I found that, instead of deciding between high-end or low-priced products, try to find some of your own passions and interests and write about them. You probably know a lot about certain topics that very few others do, and of the people who do know, very few are able to write about it. Like camping? Set up a camping gear website. I wouldn't know the first thing to say, but maybe other people could go on for hours about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Ljant View Post

      How you get traffic for your first website?
      Each new website that I build usually starts seeing traffic within a few days because I target lower competition stuff and rank quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
    I haven't had much success either with the Amazon Affiliate Program but I am not seeing the traffic that I could potentially be getting. More traffic means more sales, it's not a hard equation. What is your content like? Maybe add some fresh content, the more content you add, the more your website will get indexed by Google. That I do know and you will eventually begin to rank for material you had no plans on ranking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author redeyegirl
    Amazon is still No.1 place to buy/sell things at there. I believe your main concern is traffic,
    and comment or review you post about the product, maybe you can try building your list first before converting it to sales.
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