How do you trust the person you are outsourcing to?

Scofield · 03-01-2009, 06:36 AM

I can imagine sometimes when you outsource certain tasks you have to supply login information to certain accounts you have online to the person you are outsourcing to. How do you trust that the person you hire won't mess your stuff up, or worse?

Dannyboyonline · 03-01-2009, 06:38 AM

It depends what kind of accounts you're allowing the people you outsource to, if it's possible to create a separate acount for them it would be ideal but usually that is not possible, i think you just have to choose someone with a good reputation.

David Raybould · 03-01-2009, 06:55 AM

Hi Scofield,

I'd start by outsourcing simple stuff to build up some trust and a relationship with the person. You'll probably know soon enough if they're worth your time if you start this way.

Hope that helps

David

affilcrazy · 03-01-2009, 06:58 AM

i'm in total agreement with the_writer. Always start with simple stuff, such as basic article writing, etc. Over a short period of time, you will build trust and a working relationship with this person, which will allow you to look at meatier projects.

Harvey Segal · 03-01-2009, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by affilcrazy

Over a short period of time, you will build trust and a working relationship with this person, which will allow you to look at meatier projects.

This is ironic because it's exactly seven years to the day
that someone contacted me after I posted at a forum asking
for a way to do something at ClickBank.

Purely based on the content of his email I found myself
handing over the password to my site - to a stranger.

By a million to one chance I had stumbled upon someone
many of you may know as the most trustworthy and helpful
person on the Net.

It's been a privilege working with him as my partner on many
projects for these 7 years

His name is Adrian Ling.

Harvey

Teenage Genius · 03-01-2009, 07:37 AM

Use eLance - they offer a service where if your not 100% happy with the work which is done for you, you don't pay. It's the best way to find reliable people to outsource to.

Teenage Genius

wassim · 03-01-2009, 07:47 AM

Do not start such projects with a new guy. Try to give the coder that you work with mini-tasks that do not require login to the system, and through the time you will figure out if that person is up to the challenge or not. Also, through time you will figure out if you can trust this person or not...

I do not recommend that you give anyone your accounts details unless it's been a few months of successful and trustfully relationship.

Regards,
Wassim

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Originally Posted by Scofield

I can imagine sometimes when you outsource certain tasks you have to supply login information to certain accounts you have online to the person you are outsourcing to. How do you trust that the person you hire won't mess your stuff up, or worse?

Johnathan · 03-01-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scofield

I can imagine sometimes when you outsource certain tasks you have to supply login information to certain accounts you have online to the person you are outsourcing to. How do you trust that the person you hire won't mess your stuff up, or worse?

You sometimes have to take a risk. and of course, if that person proves to be worthy of your trust, then you can entrust them with more information. Also, if you are providing account information, simply make sure you have a backup of your website, such that if they screw anything up, you don't lose everything.

DominicTFY · 03-01-2009, 08:43 AM

I believe Timothy Ferris's book "4 Hour Work Week" has explored this issue. Several of the bigger outsourcing companies have "security measures" that your privacy be not abused.

For sensitive projects, get him to sign a NDA?

Justin Mandel · 03-01-2009, 08:52 AM

This is something that I talked about here a while ago:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/39114-7-tips-hiring-virtual-assistant.html

The fact is the more you trust your VA the more activities he/she can do for you unhindered.

Start slow and build a relationship. As you feel more comfortable with them give them access to more usernames/passwords that they need to use for your tasks.

Establishing trust is one of the most important parts of the relationship which takes...time.

myob · 03-01-2009, 08:53 AM

NEVER give sensitive login information to anyone. Even though they may be trustworthy, carelessness may lead to inadvertant exposure. Set up a restricted project area or FTP on your website for outsourced vendors to use. When completed to your satisfaction, then move it to your main site. For example, I assign employees to manage vendors and outsource projects with restricted privileges.

sushee · 03-01-2009, 08:55 AM

it is very difficult to trust someone in this world.
try to make friend first and see how that relationship growing.
stop when you feel danger..

DominicTFY · 03-01-2009, 08:59 AM

Your question is hinting that you're more concerned with security over trust? After all, we can develop "relationships" with our VAs and still have them compromise our privacy?

If the VA has any intention to scam you in the first place, no matter how slow the relationship building is, it still is going to happen? If you wish your VA to handle sensitive information, then it be best to look for Outsourcing Companies that offer a certain kind of security guarantee.

GreatBiz · 03-01-2009, 09:16 AM

Always test out the person with something that is expendable. If you have to rely on certain accounts for your livelihood, don't risk it. After the testing, you should be able to gauge if he or she is dependable and trustworthy.

I will often test my outsourced guys out first with something simple and only entrust them with more important accounts (nothing to do with money) later on.

DominicTFY · 03-01-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatBiz

Always test out the person with something that is expendable. If you have to rely on certain accounts for your livelihood, don't risk it. After the testing, you should be able to gauge if he or she is dependable and trustworthy.

I will often test my outsourced guys out first with something simple and only entrust them with more important accounts (nothing to do with money) later on.

Definitely. This is the way to go. The only way to know "How do you trust the person you are outsourcing to?", is to entrust them with a small project first, test them out, and decide if you want to continue using them.

And again if you're talking about 'trust', I'm still sticking to my suggestion of looking for Outsourcing Companies that offer a certain kind of security guarantee.

dennis19601 · 03-01-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Teenage Genius

Use eLance - they offer a service where if your not 100% happy with the work which is done for you, you don't pay. It's the best way to find reliable people to outsource to.

Teenage Genius

also scriptlance and rentacoder are good established sources!

plexpert · 03-01-2009, 11:21 PM

I've used rentacoder on a few occasions and each one turned out to be great. You just need to make sure you look at the freelancer's rating and portfolio before accepting the bid.

I've used them mostly for php and ajax work when I was too busy to do it myself (or too lazy)

lavaleekathy · 03-02-2009, 01:03 AM

Would agree that you need to start with some small sourcing tasks first to build up some trust with your employee. There are some highly reccomended outsourcers mentioned in other threads on the warrior forum, so my advice would be to check out if other warriors trust these people and then think about offering them jobs! All of the information you need is right here on this forum, and the more experienced warriors are always willing to help you out!

03-01-2009, 06:36 AM	#1
Scofield Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How do you trust the person you are outsourcing to? I can imagine sometimes when you outsource certain tasks you have to supply login information to certain accounts you have online to the person you are outsourcing to. How do you trust that the person you hire won't mess your stuff up, or worse?

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DominicTFY Dominic Tay War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 223 Thanks: 10 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking	Re: How do you trust the person you are outsourcing to? I believe Timothy Ferris's book "4 Hour Work Week" has explored this issue. Several of the bigger outsourcing companies have "security measures" that your privacy be not abused. For sensitive projects, get him to sign a NDA?
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03-01-2009, 08:59 AM	#13
DominicTFY Dominic Tay War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 223 Thanks: 10 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking	Re: How do you trust the person you are outsourcing to? Your question is hinting that you're more concerned with security over trust? After all, we can develop "relationships" with our VAs and still have them compromise our privacy? If the VA has any intention to scam you in the first place, no matter how slow the relationship building is, it still is going to happen? If you wish your VA to handle sensitive information, then it be best to look for Outsourcing Companies that offer a certain kind of security guarantee.
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03-02-2009, 01:03 AM	#18
lavaleekathy HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 106 Thanks: 35 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: How do you trust the person you are outsourcing to? Would agree that you need to start with some small sourcing tasks first to build up some trust with your employee. There are some highly reccomended outsourcers mentioned in other threads on the warrior forum, so my advice would be to check out if other warriors trust these people and then think about offering them jobs! All of the information you need is right here on this forum, and the more experienced warriors are always willing to help you out!