Anyone and everyone please read this post

mygigvault · 05-31-2012, 01:13 PM

Simply deleted because it doesn't have anything to do with hers. And you can simply delete my account entirely due to my choice of not wanting to be part of this community anymore.

petemcal · 06-02-2012, 03:28 PM

My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your daughter.

I know a lot of cynical people will think this is a hoax or a fix but I think you just need to put that to the side. If we all call bs on everything we see then nobody would ever help anyone, the world is built on trust.

I don't have any work for you, but I wish you all the best and hope you can make ends meet.

Michael Meaney · 06-02-2012, 03:37 PM

You could start using your $500 a day Facebook guide that you've been selling in the WSO board?

But I will pray for your daughter incase this is legit.

Benjamin Ehinger · 06-02-2012, 03:54 PM

I will also pray for your daughter, just in case this is real, however, this belongs in the warrior for hire section not here. Not to mention, I have never heard of a surgery only costing $500 or a hospital performing a surgery over such a small amount. You can get a payday loan, borrow from a friend, sell something you own, etc.

$500 really isn't a lot of money and if this was really the situation, you would have already figured out a way to piece the money together.

Just a guess, but this is probably not real, just a way to try to drum up business.

Benjamin

Tina Golden · 06-02-2012, 03:56 PM

If you're trying to steal thunder from this post, then you're the lowest form of scum-sucking pond slime I've ever seen in this forum.

The two parents are ashleybs18 and quest1426 - so who are you?

Edited - Okay, I just noticed that the other thread is dated after this one so something is not adding up right here. You were in Fresno, CA on May 10 according to one of your posts but the lady in the post I link to says they live in Nicaragua. Plus the story is a little different. Can you explain the discrepancies?

Cool Hand Luke · 06-02-2012, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Meaney

You could start using your $500 a day Facebook guide that you've been selling in the WSO board?

But I will pray for your daughter incase this is legit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

If you're trying to steal thunder from this post, then you're the lowest form of scum-sucking pond slime I've ever seen in this forum.

The two parents are ashleybs18 and quest1426 - so who are you?

MissTerraK · 06-02-2012, 04:07 PM

First and foremost, I will pray!

If this is indeed true, it strikes me as kind of odd that the majority of your post focuses on what you can do for pay while very little on your daughter's condition.

If it were me, I would give a detailed description of what was going on with my daughter, the odd things I noticed happening with her, the decline in her health or perhaps if it were an accident, they details of that.

I would have included a diagnosis along with prognosis. I would have poured my heart out with a few descriptions of how smart she was, a short story of a cute thing she said or did. I would have laid out my heart and emotions, bared my soul for everyone to see how precious my child was and how desperate her situation was, then give a quick list of what I could do for pay.

Yet, all you say is my daughter is extremely ill and needs surgery or she will pass away. I need 500 dollars by Monday.

Sorry I'm suspect but what surgery only costs $500 or what hospital requires a $500 down payment before they will operate?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you can see where I'm coming from, can you not?

Terra

timpears · 06-02-2012, 04:10 PM

No doctor will let someone die for lack of money. Tell them to put it on your account, on account of you ain't got any money. You can make payments.

I have been in your situation with my own health problems. It never stopped me from getting the care I needed. Doctors take an oath. You can sell your services to pay the bill after the operation is done.

Ken Strong · 06-02-2012, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

The two parents are ashleybs18 and quest1426 - so who are you?

ashleybs18 and the OP of this thread are posting from the same IP, so that matches up, at least. I'm not finding any Warrior member named quest1426 anywhere, so not sure where you're getting that from?

Tina Golden · 06-02-2012, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Strong

ashleybs18 and the OP of this thread are posting from the same IP, so that matches up, at least. I'm not finding any Warrior member named quest1426 anywhere, so not sure where you're getting that from?

In Ashley's thread that I linked to above, she said her husband went by the name of quest1426. I assumed that to mean here on the forum.

Ken, if this is her husband, why did he order from her Warrior for Hire thread here?

alistair · 06-02-2012, 04:30 PM

There is a quest1426 with the same thread here.

Edit: Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

fitzpatg · 06-02-2012, 04:37 PM

I'm curious, how do you know what IP address a post came from?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Strong

ashleybs18 and the OP of this thread are posting from the same IP, so that matches up, at least. I'm not finding any Warrior member named quest1426 anywhere, so not sure where you're getting that from?

Tina Golden · 06-02-2012, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzpatg

I'm curious, how do you know what IP address a post came from?

He is a moderator. They can see things we cannot.

Cool Hand Luke · 06-02-2012, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alistair

There is a quest1426 with the same thread here.

Edit: Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

Yep, he not only asks for help here, but also on a forum dedicated to theft, deception, and the piracy of copyrighted content. I will NOT be donating anything because of that. It looks like members of other forums have already pledged MORE than the total of $500, so the daughter should be fine (if this is even legit).

Tina Golden · 06-02-2012, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alistair

There is a quest1426 with the same thread here.

Edit: Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

I have to admit that my opinion of BHW just shot up a lot, seeing the outpouring of pledges the people over there gave. I like that the admin over there asked for proof to be sent to them but it looks like the OP will have well over the funds needed once the admin verifies.

Not sure it was a very smart idea of his wife to reveal his BHW name, though, since he's shared at least 4 WSOs over there in the past couple months.

sbucciarel · 06-02-2012, 05:17 PM

This just doesn't add up. Even if you received $500 today via Paypal, you wouldn't have it in your bank account on Monday and what hospital or doctor is not going to give a child surgery for $500 that would save a life?

mygigvault · 06-02-2012, 05:20 PM

hi, so sorry I was not on the forum
YES ASHLEY IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT FRIEND.. I am so sorry that I let you guys carry on guessing. I apologize greatly.. her daughter is in dire need. I did post this the moment I heard about it and it was specifically for her.

The moment that I realized no one was even commenting (the first couple days) I advised her to post her own thread.. She did that and I totally let this one slip my mind. I met Ashley during a golf tour in Nicaragua AFTER I met her here.. Her little girl was not that big and that is her photo from her collection, not mine.

Please forgive me for not replying sooner I apologize so much.

mygigvault · 06-02-2012, 05:23 PM

The husband did post over there, I do not know how that goes, I think that you shouldn't hold anything against a little girl because of the mistakes of the father. I know that you guys are upset at blackhat people and the way they do things, but please, don't hold anything hard in your heart against them. I also know that Ashley herself has no affiliation with that site and DOES A GREAT JOB for warriors here who she works with ... Man I am so sorry to see you guys thinking this way. Maybe its just because she is my friend and I may be biased because I have SEEN the little girl before.. But I guess you all have your own opinions.

Tina Golden · 06-02-2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mygigvault

hi, so sorry I was not on the forum
YES ASHLEY IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT FRIEND.. I am so sorry that I let you guys carry on guessing. I apologize greatly.. her daughter is in dire need. I did post this the moment I heard about it and it was specifically for her.

The moment that I realized no one was even commenting (the first couple days) I advised her to post her own thread.. She did that and I totally let this one slip my mind. I met Ashley during a golf tour in Nicaragua AFTER I met her here.. Her little girl was not that big and that is her photo from her collection, not mine.

Please forgive me for not replying sooner I apologize so much.

I don't buy it. I read your post over at BHW and Ken has already confirmed that you and Ashley are posting from the same IP.

mygigvault · 06-02-2012, 05:26 PM

Man, I guess you guys are just way way out there. I understand that this post was posted before hers, and that her husband is affiliated with some junk, and that I myself had an issue with him over some things, but that doesn't mean I put my opinions over a little girl and her needs. Thank you very much for showing me how you feel though, it really is a wonder.

mygigvault · 06-02-2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

I don't buy it. I read your post over at BHW and Ken has already confirmed that you and Ashley are posting from the same IP.

Believe what you must, there is nothing anyone can say, I am not her husband, nor have I ever posted on blackhat. I appreciate it though. really, I do.

cashcow · 06-02-2012, 05:28 PM

What kinds of doctors let a little girl die because the parents don't have $500 to pay for an operation?

Benjamin Ehinger · 06-02-2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

This just doesn't add up. Even if you received $500 today via Paypal, you wouldn't have it in your bank account on Monday and what hospital or doctor is not going to give a child surgery for $500 that would save a life?

Well, if they had a debit card linked to their account they could use an ATM, but it's a scam anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashcow

What kinds of doctors let a little girl die because the parents don't have $500 to pay for an operation?

The kind that probably advised all the people involved in this scam on all the forums it has ended up on.

Benjamin

Tina Golden · 06-02-2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mygigvault

Believe what you must, there is nothing anyone can say, I am not her husband, nor have I ever posted on blackhat. I appreciate it though. really, I do.

Oh, really? So he is over there claiming to the owner of YOUR product and recruiting affiliates for YOUR product?

So why is YOUR post here (the OP to this thread) identical, as in copy and paste, from HIS post over at BHW, where you have never been?

And HIS post there was posted at 3:21 pm est on May 31 on BHW while YOUR post here was posted at 3:13 pm est on May 31?

Oh, and by the way, for the record, at least two of those WSOs that were shared over there by THIS OTHER GUY were run through WSO Pro. That means that the buyer's Warrior Forum username was recorded.

What is Ashley's husband's WF name so we can check? One of those WSOs was put out by a very good friend of mine and he's standing by to check his records for your username, Ashley's and Ashley's husband's username. Let's see who bought it, shall we?

Joseph Robinson · 06-02-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mygigvault

I know I am not anybody here, but I just found out at this moment my daughter is extremely ill and she needs surgery or she will pass away

Quote:

Originally Posted by mygigvault

hi, so sorry I was not on the forum
YES ASHLEY IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT FRIEND.. .

So it comes down to two things here. Either you fathered the child with Ashley and the husband doesn't know

or

One of these posts is a lie.

We aren't "out there" at all, just a hell of a lot better at finding inconsistencies then you thought we would be.

lovboa · 06-02-2012, 05:46 PM

If it's your daughters life "at risk of death", I would have posted every document you have available to prove the validity of your claim. Not a giant picture of your daughter.

Benjamin Ehinger · 06-02-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

So it comes down to two things here. Either you fathered the child with Ashley and the husband doesn't know

or

One of these posts is a lie.

We aren't "out there" at all, just a hell of a lot better at finding inconsistencies then you thought we would be.

Well said and I believe #2 is what I am ordering.

Benjamin

Curtis2011 · 06-02-2012, 05:55 PM

I find it outrageous that the moderators have not already closed this obvious scam thread.

Joseph Robinson · 06-02-2012, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mygigvault

I met Ashley during a golf tour in Nicaragua AFTER I met her here..

Just a golf tour through Nicaragua, or do you live there? I assume this profile is yours, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

I find it outrageous that the moderators have not already closed this obvious scam thread.

They're probably investigating themselves, and giving things a chance to play out. Get the whole story, you know?

R Hagel · 06-02-2012, 06:09 PM

Tip o' the hat to Tina for her investigative work.

I believe we can refer to the OP's story as Swiss cheese, no?

Benjamin Ehinger · 06-02-2012, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Hagel

Tip o' the hat to Tina for her investigative work.

I believe we can refer to the OP's story as Swiss cheese, no?

Only if it is mostly holes and very, very little cheese.....thanks, now I am craving a grilled swiss cheese and have to go to the store....lol.

Benjamin

mygigvault · 06-02-2012, 06:30 PM

This was my attempt to do something for them since they hadn't thought of doing it on their own until after that. If you want to call it BS I feel sorry for you and them. I hope that everything goes great for them regardless of what you are saying, and I know God will be there for them. What her husband did has nothing to do with this, and that is water under the bridge between me and him at the moment.

Paul Myers · 06-02-2012, 07:12 PM

Note: mygigvault was banned for the WSO "sharing." Not this thread.

Alistair,

Quote:

Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

We generally don't allow linking to threads in other forums. We don't often ban people for it, though. The only times I can recall doing that are when people linked to pirate downloads.

Tina,

Quote:

I have to admit that my opinion of BHW just shot up a lot, seeing the outpouring of pledges the people over there gave.

This is one of the reasons we don't allow forum-bashing. Every group has its good and bad sides, and things that are just different from others. These things are rarely as black and white as people want to believe.

mygigvault,

Quote:

And you can simply delete my account entirely due to my choice of not wanting to be part of this community anymore.

Done. You were stealing from our members. You were never a part of this community to begin with.

Paul

05-31-2012, 01:13 PM	#1
mygigvault Banned War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 28 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Anyone and everyone please read this post Simply deleted because it doesn't have anything to do with hers. And you can simply delete my account entirely due to my choice of not wanting to be part of this community anymore.

06-02-2012, 03:37 PM	#3
Michael Meaney Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,020 Thanks: 412 Thanked 867 Times in 252 Posts Social Networking	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post You could start using your $500 a day Facebook guide that you've been selling in the WSO board? But I will pray for your daughter incase this is legit.
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06-02-2012, 03:54 PM	#4
Benjamin Ehinger Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denton, TX, USA Posts: 1,684 Thanks: 145 Thanked 347 Times in 235 Posts Social Networking	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post I will also pray for your daughter, just in case this is real, however, this belongs in the warrior for hire section not here. Not to mention, I have never heard of a surgery only costing $500 or a hospital performing a surgery over such a small amount. You can get a payday loan, borrow from a friend, sell something you own, etc. $500 really isn't a lot of money and if this was really the situation, you would have already figured out a way to piece the money together. Just a guess, but this is probably not real, just a way to try to drum up business. Benjamin
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06-02-2012, 03:56 PM	#5
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06-02-2012, 04:07 PM	#7
MissTerraK The Terra-izer War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 1,585 Thanks: 2,489 Thanked 2,656 Times in 1,611 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post First and foremost, I will pray! If this is indeed true, it strikes me as kind of odd that the majority of your post focuses on what you can do for pay while very little on your daughter's condition. If it were me, I would give a detailed description of what was going on with my daughter, the odd things I noticed happening with her, the decline in her health or perhaps if it were an accident, they details of that. I would have included a diagnosis along with prognosis. I would have poured my heart out with a few descriptions of how smart she was, a short story of a cute thing she said or did. I would have laid out my heart and emotions, bared my soul for everyone to see how precious my child was and how desperate her situation was, then give a quick list of what I could do for pay. Yet, all you say is my daughter is extremely ill and needs surgery or she will pass away. I need 500 dollars by Monday. Sorry I'm suspect but what surgery only costs $500 or what hospital requires a $500 down payment before they will operate? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you can see where I'm coming from, can you not? Terra
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06-02-2012, 03:28 PM	#2
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06-02-2012, 04:10 PM	#8
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06-02-2012, 04:30 PM	#11
alistair HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: England Posts: 343 Thanks: 24 Thanked 102 Times in 82 Posts	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post There is a quest1426 with the same thread here. Edit: Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

06-02-2012, 05:17 PM	#16
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06-02-2012, 05:20 PM	#17
mygigvault Banned War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 28 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post hi, so sorry I was not on the forum YES ASHLEY IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT FRIEND.. I am so sorry that I let you guys carry on guessing. I apologize greatly.. her daughter is in dire need. I did post this the moment I heard about it and it was specifically for her. The moment that I realized no one was even commenting (the first couple days) I advised her to post her own thread.. She did that and I totally let this one slip my mind. I met Ashley during a golf tour in Nicaragua AFTER I met her here.. Her little girl was not that big and that is her photo from her collection, not mine. Please forgive me for not replying sooner I apologize so much.

06-02-2012, 05:23 PM	#18
mygigvault Banned War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 28 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post The husband did post over there, I do not know how that goes, I think that you shouldn't hold anything against a little girl because of the mistakes of the father. I know that you guys are upset at blackhat people and the way they do things, but please, don't hold anything hard in your heart against them. I also know that Ashley herself has no affiliation with that site and DOES A GREAT JOB for warriors here who she works with ... Man I am so sorry to see you guys thinking this way. Maybe its just because she is my friend and I may be biased because I have SEEN the little girl before.. But I guess you all have your own opinions.

06-02-2012, 05:26 PM	#20
mygigvault Banned War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 28 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post Man, I guess you guys are just way way out there. I understand that this post was posted before hers, and that her husband is affiliated with some junk, and that I myself had an issue with him over some things, but that doesn't mean I put my opinions over a little girl and her needs. Thank you very much for showing me how you feel though, it really is a wonder.

06-02-2012, 05:28 PM	#22
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06-02-2012, 05:46 PM	#26
lovboa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 312 Thanked 145 Times in 128 Posts	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post If it's your daughters life "at risk of death", I would have posted every document you have available to prove the validity of your claim. Not a giant picture of your daughter.

06-02-2012, 05:55 PM	#28
Curtis2011 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 467 Thanks: 250 Thanked 69 Times in 62 Posts	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post I find it outrageous that the moderators have not already closed this obvious scam thread.

06-02-2012, 06:09 PM	#30
R Hagel Copywriting and More... War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where it's cold, USA Posts: 3,470 Thanks: 1,825 Thanked 2,375 Times in 852 Posts	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post Tip o' the hat to Tina for her investigative work. I believe we can refer to the OP's story as Swiss cheese, no?

06-02-2012, 06:30 PM	#32
mygigvault Banned War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 28 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Anyone and everyone please read this post This was my attempt to do something for them since they hadn't thought of doing it on their own until after that. If you want to call it BS I feel sorry for you and them. I hope that everything goes great for them regardless of what you are saying, and I know God will be there for them. What her husband did has nothing to do with this, and that is water under the bridge between me and him at the moment.