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12 years ago

My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your daughter.

I know a lot of cynical people will think this is a hoax or a fix but I think you just need to put that to the side. If we all call bs on everything we see then nobody would ever help anyone, the world is built on trust.

I don't have any work for you, but I wish you all the best and hope you can make ends meet.

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Michael Meaney

12 years ago

You could start using your $500 a day Facebook guide that you've been selling in the WSO board?

But I will pray for your daughter incase this is legit.

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

If you're trying to steal thunder from this post, then you're the lowest form of scum-sucking pond slime I've ever seen in this forum.

The two parents are ashleybs18 and quest1426 - so who are you?

Edited - Okay, I just noticed that the other thread is dated after this one so something is not adding up right here. You were in Fresno, CA on May 10 according to one of your posts but the lady in the post I link to says they live in Nicaragua. Plus the story is a little different. Can you explain the discrepancies?

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Cool Hand Luke

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mick Meaney

You could start using your $500 a day Facebook guide that you've been selling in the WSO board?

But I will pray for your daughter incase this is legit.

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

If you're trying to steal thunder from this post, then you're the lowest form of scum-sucking pond slime I've ever seen in this forum.

The two parents are ashleybs18 and quest1426 - so who are you?

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Ken Strong

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

The two parents are ashleybs18 and quest1426 - so who are you?

ashleybs18 and the OP of this thread are posting from the same IP, so that matches up, at least. I'm not finding any Warrior member named quest1426 anywhere, so not sure where you're getting that from?

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Strong

ashleybs18 and the OP of this thread are posting from the same IP, so that matches up, at least. I'm not finding any Warrior member named quest1426 anywhere, so not sure where you're getting that from?

In Ashley's thread that I linked to above, she said her husband went by the name of quest1426. I assumed that to mean here on the forum.

Ken, if this is her husband, why did he order from her Warrior for Hire thread here?

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fitzpatg

12 years ago

I'm curious, how do you know what IP address a post came from?

Originally Posted by Ken Strong

ashleybs18 and the OP of this thread are posting from the same IP, so that matches up, at least. I'm not finding any Warrior member named quest1426 anywhere, so not sure where you're getting that from?

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Tina Golden 12 years ago

Originally Posted by fitzpatg

I'm curious, how do you know what IP address a post came from?

He is a moderator. They can see things we cannot.
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Benjamin Ehinger

12 years ago

I will also pray for your daughter, just in case this is real, however, this belongs in the warrior for hire section not here. Not to mention, I have never heard of a surgery only costing $500 or a hospital performing a surgery over such a small amount. You can get a payday loan, borrow from a friend, sell something you own, etc.

$500 really isn't a lot of money and if this was really the situation, you would have already figured out a way to piece the money together.

Just a guess, but this is probably not real, just a way to try to drum up business.

Benjamin

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MissTerraK 12 years ago

First and foremost, I will pray!

If this is indeed true, it strikes me as kind of odd that the majority of your post focuses on what you can do for pay while very little on your daughter's condition.

If it were me, I would give a detailed description of what was going on with my daughter, the odd things I noticed happening with her, the decline in her health or perhaps if it were an accident, they details of that.

I would have included a diagnosis along with prognosis. I would have poured my heart out with a few descriptions of how smart she was, a short story of a cute thing she said or did. I would have laid out my heart and emotions, bared my soul for everyone to see how precious my child was and how desperate her situation was, then give a quick list of what I could do for pay.

Yet, all you say is my daughter is extremely ill and needs surgery or she will pass away. I need 500 dollars by Monday. :confused: Sorry I'm suspect but what surgery only costs $500 or what hospital requires a $500 down payment before they will operate? :confused:

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you can see where I'm coming from, can you not?

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timpears

12 years ago

No doctor will let someone die for lack of money. Tell them to put it on your account, on account of you ain't got any money. You can make payments.

I have been in your situation with my own health problems. It never stopped me from getting the care I needed. Doctors take an oath. You can sell your services to pay the bill after the operation is done.

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alistair

12 years ago

There is a quest1426 with the same thread here.

Edit: Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

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Cool Hand Luke

12 years ago

Originally Posted by alistair

There is a quest1426 with the same thread here.

Edit: Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

Yep, he not only asks for help here, but also on a forum dedicated to theft, deception, and the piracy of copyrighted content. I will NOT be donating anything because of that. It looks like members of other forums have already pledged MORE than the total of $500, so the daughter should be fine (if this is even legit).

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

Originally Posted by alistair

There is a quest1426 with the same thread here.

Edit: Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

I have to admit that my opinion of BHW just shot up a lot, seeing the outpouring of pledges the people over there gave. I like that the admin over there asked for proof to be sent to them but it looks like the OP will have well over the funds needed once the admin verifies.

Not sure it was a very smart idea of his wife to reveal his BHW name, though, since he's shared at least 4 WSOs over there in the past couple months.

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

This just doesn't add up. Even if you received $500 today via Paypal, you wouldn't have it in your bank account on Monday and what hospital or doctor is not going to give a child surgery for $500 that would save a life?

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mygigvault

12 years ago

hi, so sorry I was not on the forum
YES ASHLEY IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT FRIEND.. I am so sorry that I let you guys carry on guessing. I apologize greatly.. her daughter is in dire need. I did post this the moment I heard about it and it was specifically for her.

The moment that I realized no one was even commenting (the first couple days) I advised her to post her own thread.. She did that and I totally let this one slip my mind. I met Ashley during a golf tour in Nicaragua AFTER I met her here.. Her little girl was not that big and that is her photo from her collection, not mine.

Please forgive me for not replying sooner I apologize so much.

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Tina Golden

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mygigvault

hi, so sorry I was not on the forum
YES ASHLEY IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT FRIEND.. I am so sorry that I let you guys carry on guessing. I apologize greatly.. her daughter is in dire need. I did post this the moment I heard about it and it was specifically for her.

The moment that I realized no one was even commenting (the first couple days) I advised her to post her own thread.. She did that and I totally let this one slip my mind. I met Ashley during a golf tour in Nicaragua AFTER I met her here.. Her little girl was not that big and that is her photo from her collection, not mine.

Please forgive me for not replying sooner I apologize so much.

I don't buy it. I read your post over at BHW and Ken has already confirmed that you and Ashley are posting from the same IP.

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mygigvault 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

I don't buy it. I read your post over at BHW and Ken has already confirmed that you and Ashley are posting from the same IP.

Believe what you must, there is nothing anyone can say, I am not her husband, nor have I ever posted on blackhat. I appreciate it though. really, I do.
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- Tina Golden 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by mygigvault
  
  Believe what you must, there is nothing anyone can say, I am not her husband, nor have I ever posted on blackhat. I appreciate it though. really, I do.
  
  Oh, really? So he is over there claiming to the owner of YOUR product and recruiting affiliates for YOUR product?
  
  So why is YOUR post here (the OP to this thread) identical, as in copy and paste, from HIS post over at BHW, where you have never been?
  
  And HIS post there was posted at 3:21 pm est on May 31 on BHW while YOUR post here was posted at 3:13 pm est on May 31?
  
  Oh, and by the way, for the record, at least two of those WSOs that were shared over there by THIS OTHER GUY were run through WSO Pro. That means that the buyer's Warrior Forum username was recorded.
  
  What is Ashley's husband's WF name so we can check? One of those WSOs was put out by a very good friend of mine and he's standing by to check his records for your username, Ashley's and Ashley's husband's username. Let's see who bought it, shall we?
  
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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by mygigvault

I know I am not anybody here, but I just found out at this moment my daughter is extremely ill and she needs surgery or she will pass away

Originally Posted by mygigvault

hi, so sorry I was not on the forum
YES ASHLEY IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT FRIEND.. .

So it comes down to two things here. Either you fathered the child with Ashley and the husband doesn't know

or

One of these posts is a lie.

We aren't "out there" at all, just a hell of a lot better at finding inconsistencies then you thought we would be.

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Benjamin Ehinger

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

So it comes down to two things here. Either you fathered the child with Ashley and the husband doesn't know

or

One of these posts is a lie.

We aren't "out there" at all, just a hell of a lot better at finding inconsistencies then you thought we would be.

Well said and I believe #2 is what I am ordering.

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Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by mygigvault

I met Ashley during a golf tour in Nicaragua AFTER I met her here..

Just a golf tour through Nicaragua, or do you live there? I assume this profile is yours, right?

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

I find it outrageous that the moderators have not already closed this obvious scam thread.

They're probably investigating themselves, and giving things a chance to play out. Get the whole story, you know?
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mygigvault

12 years ago

The husband did post over there, I do not know how that goes, I think that you shouldn't hold anything against a little girl because of the mistakes of the father. I know that you guys are upset at blackhat people and the way they do things, but please, don't hold anything hard in your heart against them. I also know that Ashley herself has no affiliation with that site and DOES A GREAT JOB for warriors here who she works with ... Man I am so sorry to see you guys thinking this way. Maybe its just because she is my friend and I may be biased because I have SEEN the little girl before.. But I guess you all have your own opinions.

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mygigvault

12 years ago

Man, I guess you guys are just way way out there. I understand that this post was posted before hers, and that her husband is affiliated with some junk, and that I myself had an issue with him over some things, but that doesn't mean I put my opinions over a little girl and her needs. Thank you very much for showing me how you feel though, it really is a wonder.

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cashcow

12 years ago

What kinds of doctors let a little girl die because the parents don't have $500 to pay for an operation?

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Benjamin Ehinger

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

This just doesn't add up. Even if you received $500 today via Paypal, you wouldn't have it in your bank account on Monday and what hospital or doctor is not going to give a child surgery for $500 that would save a life?

Well, if they had a debit card linked to their account they could use an ATM, but it's a scam anyway.

Originally Posted by cashcow

What kinds of doctors let a little girl die because the parents don't have $500 to pay for an operation?

The kind that probably advised all the people involved in this scam on all the forums it has ended up on.

Benjamin

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lovboa

Banned 12 years ago

If it's your daughters life "at risk of death", I would have posted every document you have available to prove the validity of your claim. Not a giant picture of your daughter.

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Curtis2011 12 years ago

I find it outrageous that the moderators have not already closed this obvious scam thread.
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R Hagel

12 years ago

Tip o' the hat to Tina for her investigative work.

I believe we can refer to the OP's story as Swiss cheese, no?

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Benjamin Ehinger 12 years ago

Originally Posted by R Hagel

Tip o' the hat to Tina for her investigative work.

I believe we can refer to the OP's story as Swiss cheese, no?

Only if it is mostly holes and very, very little cheese.....thanks, now I am craving a grilled swiss cheese and have to go to the store....lol.

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mygigvault

12 years ago

This was my attempt to do something for them since they hadn't thought of doing it on their own until after that. If you want to call it BS I feel sorry for you and them. I hope that everything goes great for them regardless of what you are saying, and I know God will be there for them. What her husband did has nothing to do with this, and that is water under the bridge between me and him at the moment.

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Note: mygigvault was banned for the WSO "sharing." Not this thread.

Alistair,

Removed link, but if you just google quest1426 and click the link under blackhatworld.com - I will probably be banned for this thread, then it is the same as this thread.

We generally don't allow linking to threads in other forums. We don't often ban people for it, though. The only times I can recall doing that are when people linked to pirate downloads.

Tina,

I have to admit that my opinion of BHW just shot up a lot, seeing the outpouring of pledges the people over there gave.

This is one of the reasons we don't allow forum-bashing. Every group has its good and bad sides, and things that are just different from others. These things are rarely as black and white as people want to believe.

mygigvault,

And you can simply delete my account entirely due to my choice of not wanting to be part of this community anymore.

Done. You were stealing from our members. You were never a part of this community to begin with.

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