please settle an $50 bet between me and my dumb ass boyfriend....

Dan C. Rinnert 15 years ago

I agree with the others.

You owe your boyfriend $50.
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jennyuk

15 years ago

uh oh...this is not good.....

so watching a youtube vid does use some of my RAM? I thought everything was done at their servers???

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JamesFrancisIM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

uh oh...this is not good.....

so watching a youtube vid does use some of my RAM? I thought everything was done at their servers???

You're both right - it depends on how you define the term "memory".

If you're referring to RAM (i.e. in simplistic terms, the speed at which things go at), then YES, youtube uses this, as does everything else.

However, if you're referring to memory as HARD DRIVE SPACE, then no, as you are not downloading the video and it is hosted on their servers.

So give each other $25.

Hope i've helped ;-)

- James.

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Michael Oksa

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesFrancisIM

You're both right - it depends on how you define the term "memory".

If you're referring to RAM (i.e. in simplistic terms, the speed at which things go at), then YES, youtube uses this, as does everything else.

However, if you're referring to memory as HARD DRIVE SPACE, then no, as you are not downloading the video and it is hosted on their servers.

So give each other $25.

Hope i've helped ;-)

- James.

EXCELLENT answer!!!

Hmmm....looks like we were typing our answers at the exact same time.

I agree James, it sounds like jenn and her boyfirend are both right.

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MikeWords 15 years ago

typing that post used some of your RAM. Pay the man
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Jay Moreno 15 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesFrancisIM

However, if you're referring to memory as HARD DRIVE SPACE, then no, as you are not downloading the video and it is hosted on their servers.

thats not strictly true - empty your temporary internet files, watch a handful of youtube videos then check your temporary internet folder and see how many files are there and what type of files they are...
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tommygadget

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesFrancisIM

You're both right - it depends on how you define the term "memory".

If you're referring to RAM (i.e. in simplistic terms, the speed at which things go at), then YES, youtube uses this, as does everything else.

However, if you're referring to memory as HARD DRIVE SPACE, then no, as you are not downloading the video and it is hosted on their servers.

So give each other $25.

Hope i've helped ;-)

- James.

Actually, you are wrong. The computer is using RAM in the rendering and streaming of the video AND is using hard disk space to buffer the incoming video stream so it does not stutter during playback (even though is does often anyway). And yes, I was a software developer.

TomG.

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JamesFrancisIM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by tommygadget

Actually, you are wrong. The computer is using RAM in the rendering and streaming of the video AND is using hard disk space to buffer the incoming video stream so it does not stutter during playback (even though is does often anyway). And yes, I was a software developer.

TomG.

Haha, i tried!

Damn my limited technological knowledge! :p

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Floyd Fisher

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesFrancisIM

You're both right - it depends on how you define the term "memory".

If you're referring to RAM (i.e. in simplistic terms, the speed at which things go at), then YES, youtube uses this, as does everything else.

However, if you're referring to memory as HARD DRIVE SPACE, then no, as you are not downloading the video and it is hosted on their servers.

So give each other $25.

Hope i've helped ;-)

- James.

Not true.

Everything is downloaded to something on your hard drive called a browser cache. I'm still trying to break into mine on this new machine, but trust me it's there.

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Steven Fullman 15 years ago

Correct..but, your computer still has to process the incoming info.

Guess what it uses to do that...? Its processor, memory and hard-disk.

Sorry, but maybe get your b/f back from the yard and apologise...

Steve

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uh oh...this is not good.....

so watching a youtube vid does use some of my RAM? I thought everything was done at their servers???
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jasondinner

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

uh oh...this is not good.....

so watching a youtube vid does use some of my RAM? I thought everything was done at their servers???

You're boyfriend definitely is a DUMBASS for sure!!!

I would have offered you the $50 if you won, but would have asked for something else if i won.

I'm just sayin ;P

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Steven Fullman

15 years ago

Smooth

Jason, you're definitely East Coast.

Am I right?

EDIT: Course I'm right...Long Island, right there in your profile. My bad.

Originally Posted by jasondinner

You're boyfriend definitely is a DUMBASS for sure!!!

I would have offered you the $50 if you won, but would have asked for something else if i won.

I'm just sayin ;P

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jasondinner 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Smooth

Jason, you're definitely East Coast.

Am I right?

EDIT: Course I'm right...Long Island, right there in your profile. My bad.

Aside from seeing it under my name, what else gave you that idea? LOL
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Steven W Johnson

15 years ago

Assuming your on a PC, open up Win Task Manager (Ctrl-Shft-ESC) and click the performance tab

Now move it so you can see the available physical memory (line under Total)

Start and stop the youtube video.

Just SHOW HIM what happens (smiling)

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Michael Oksa

15 years ago

Yep, it sounds like it depends how you are defining 'memory'. Does it use RAM? Yes. Does it use up space on your hardrive (which many people think of as memory)? I don't think so.

Call it draw and play nice.

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jennyuk

15 years ago

Ok I guess he may...you know....kinda be sorta right......

but I did clean up the dishwasher two days in a row so that's gotta earn me some points back.....

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Star69

15 years ago

Give him the fifty bucks and tell him to take the two of you out for a nice dinner, that way you both win...

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ss61288 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Star69

Give him the fifty bucks and tell him to take the two of you out for a nice dinner, that way you both win...

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cgj1981

15 years ago

I think he also has you on a technicality as RAM is random access MEMORY so if this was a court of law..I think he would win. You could always blackmail him in other ways

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1bad55

15 years ago

I think you may have to treat your boyfriend really well tonight!

As mentioned above it is all in the terminology.

Ram is used for every action on the computer so I think you have some major sucking up to do.

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Cherilyn Woodhouse

15 years ago

You're both right, unfortunately (I know how much fun it is to win an argument!)

Really, it does use SOME RAM because the video "preloads" while you're watching it. And the process of loading the web page, and storing the video in your computers cache DOES use memory.

But not nearly as much as downloading it for viewing would, and not for nearly as long because it doesn't download the whole video - it just downloads enough to minimize the "skipping" effect.

Then again, every web page you view uses a tiny bit of RAM as it downloads and stores that site in your computer's cache, so...

Really, just don't let him see this thread.

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jennyuk

15 years ago

Right....I'm quitting WF....

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Cherilyn Woodhouse 15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

Right....I'm quitting WF....

Oh don't do that! We need people who ask questions and have opinions here. Just admit defeat, he'll probably gloat (he is a man, after all) but just make sure to point out how much more you know now about the process than he does and you'll get your own victory.

Or, tell him he's acting just like his father... That's a hot button for most guys. But thats only if you want to... Well, make him "pay" for being right. LOL

- Cherilyn

P.S. I don't do that to my own man, but there are times I've thought about it... LOL
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laurelwachtel

15 years ago

I could be wrong but I think that when watching youtube it buffers to the ram on your computer, so the quicker your ram and interent connection speed, the faster you can watch videos! You might owe $50 by the sounds of it!

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sannyman

15 years ago

Dear GUYS and LADS, WWWWAAAAKKKKEEEE UUUUUUP!

What a disappointment... Where do you think you are? Jenny posted a question in the WF forum and not in the MIT one! Also, not in the Ferengi one, as well: "There's nothing more dangerous than an honest businessman...." But what should have in common the latter and WF? The "What's in it for me?" !!!

If I have a question about cosmos, do you think that I expect Carl Sagan to answer on WF? Wrong, my dear friends, in the best case, a fellow warrior ( I would have typed in a name, but I skip it, just in case). So, Jenny, let me wrap up: is there something in it for me? I am modest, so let's say 35%, case in which I will come up with a theory about parallel computing and we get the 50 bucks for us. What do you say?
No? Hmmm, then the rest are right.

Cheers!

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Steven Fullman

15 years ago

Blimey.

So, you're saying we should've invented some crazy world where computers run on fairy dust, and the OP is always right?

Looks like we missed the boat...but that means there's a seat waiting just for you...!

Steve

Originally Posted by sannyman

Dear GUYS and LADS, WWWWAAAAKKKKEEEE UUUUUUP!

What a disappointment... Where do you think you are? Jenny posted a question in the WF forum and not the MIT one! Also, not in the Ferengi one, as well... But what should have in common the latter and WF? The "First rule of acquisition" aka "What's in it for me?" !!!

If I have a question about cosmos, do you think that I expect Carl Sagan to answer on WF? Wrong, my dear friend, in the best case, a fellow warrior ( I would have typed in a name, but I skip it, just in case). So, Jenny, let me wrap up: is there something in it for me? I am modest, so let's say 35%, case in which I will come up with a theory about parallel computing and we get the 50 bucks for us. What do you say?
No? Hmmm, then the rest are right.

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ChristianM

15 years ago

Check here

While using an ActionScript 2.0 file, the video begins playing as soon as the first segment has been downloaded and cached to the local disk.

I believe youtube uses progressive download...

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Eric Stanley

15 years ago

And this helps other warriors make money how exactly?

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Kidding.. I don't care. Funny thread lol..

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Glenn Leader 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Eric Stanley

And this helps other warriors make money how exactly?

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Look at it like this. The OP didn't do her research, and as a result of this, it cost her (or her business) $50.

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sannyman

15 years ago

@ Steven: Rule 189: Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money.

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Mangozoom

15 years ago

Pay him ... of course it downloads from their servers to your so you can watch it!!!

GIVE UP GAMBLING OR BUY AN EBOOK ON IT FROM CB

LOOOL

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Kurt

15 years ago

I say pay him $100. $50 for him being correct, and $50 more for calling your mate a "dumbass" in public. What kind of BS is that?

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zampire 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I say pay him $100. $50 for him being correct, and $50 more for calling your mate a "dumbass" in public. What kind of BS is that?

Make it a $150 since the title tried to imply you're right.
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sevenish

15 years ago

Jenny,

Yeah, as others have pointed out already, you owe your "dumb ass" boyfriend 50 bucks. But look on the bright side -- he's not such a "dumb ass" after all!

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Johnny Slater

15 years ago

Quite a few people get confused about exactly what "memory" in a computer really is. There is an old analogy that does a pretty good job of explaining it.

Imagine your computer is a business desk that has a built in 3 drawer file cabinet. When you have a lot of papers you don't use very often you need somewhere to store them while not being used so you place them in the file cabinet. That would be your computers hard drive. This is where all files are stored on your computer. Anything you put there stays there until you remove it.

When you need to use some paper thats in the file cabinet you bring it out and place it on the desk top. This would be the computers memory. Computer memory (RAM) is the workspace where your computer does tasks. When a computer needs to process a program it needs room to freely work. It pulls the program into the memory so that is has free use of it without having to search all over the place for bits and pieces of what it needs. In essense both hard drives and memory store data, but the difference between the two is the fact that hard drives store data until you remove it manually and memory deletes the data from itself when it is done with it.

Being a techie and someone who thinks in logic processes 24/7 I know I'm not the best to try to explain things but hopefully this will help some people understand the difference.

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GarrieWilson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Johnny Slater

In essense both hard drives and memory store data, but the difference between the two is the fact that hard drives store data until you remove it manually and memory deletes the data from itself when it is done with it.

Being a techie and someone who thinks in logic processes 24/7 I know I'm not the best to try to explain things but hopefully this will help some people understand the difference.

Unless of course you use Virtual Ram as most modern systems do. You know, where the OS uses part of the hard drive and lets it pretend like it's RAM. of course it is deleted once its done just like normal RAM but it still uses the hard drive and it doesnt stay until you delete it like a hard drive.

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keithdougherty

15 years ago

All applicaiton you run on your computer take up RAM some form of memory. Technically, you browswer window is utilizing the memory to watch the video, not necessary YouTube itself.

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RichOnlineCEO

15 years ago

In any case the BF is right, regardless of if we are talking about HARD DRIVE memory or RAM memory as the youtube video is using RAM while its being played AND its now on your computers hard drive 'memory' in the temporary internet files. Even if you don't keep the files for the moment its being played the video is going SOMEWHERE and its not magic fairy land.

PS. This thread greatly amused me

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mandyg33

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

Hello warriors,

So I have $50 waging on this.

My boyfriend says that when you view a youtube video - it uses memory on your computer.

I'm saying he's talking a load of mother-board rubbish - as the video is hosted on youtubes servers.

It's getting nasty now - he's sulking in the yard.

There's even $50 riding on this.

Please tell me I'm right? Does watching a video use any of your computers memory (I'm NOT talking about downloading - I'm just talking about going to youtube and viewing). Please tell me it doesn't

Thank you

jenn x

This is too funny

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AndrewCavanagh 15 years ago

Yes you owe your boyfriend $50 and an apology for calling him a dumbass.

It uses memory to watch a video on YouTube.

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WinsonYeung

15 years ago

You own your bf $50 because everything is store in your cookies and cookies need memory as well

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plexpert

15 years ago

Sorry you lost the bet. Technically he is right it is using memory but it isn't much. Just having a tab open on your browser uses memory and as the youtube video is being played it uses a small amount of memory to push the images and sound from the server to your screen and speakers.

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lavaleekathy

15 years ago

Sounds like your question has been answered extensively! You owe him $50 for sure, and I hope he's not a member of the Warrior Forum, you don't want to break up over a thread do you! Just kidding!

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Craig McPherson

15 years ago

I would tell him he is right but make him stay out the backyard anyway.

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jennyuk

15 years ago

Thank you guys for all your replies.

And may I apologize if I upset some by calling my boyfriend a dumb ass.

I'm sorry.

He's not a dumb ass.

He is an idiot though. He thought the London Underground was a terrorist movement.

Jenn x

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Steven Fullman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

Thank you guys for all your replies.

And may I apologize if I upset some by calling my boyfriend a dumb ass.

I'm sorry.

He's not a dumb ass.

He is an idiot though. He thought the London Underground was a terrorist movement.

Jenn x

SPLORF!

Too funny

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Glenn Leader 15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

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He is an idiot though. He thought the London Underground was a terrorist movement.

They are a terrorist group. They hold tube users to ransom when they hyke their prices.
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philleep 15 years ago

yes watching videos use memory
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sladezer0

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

Thank you guys for all your replies.

And may I apologize if I upset some by calling my boyfriend a dumb ass.

I'm sorry.

He's not a dumb ass.

He is an idiot though. He thought the London Underground was a terrorist movement.

Jenn x

lol dumb ass to idiot? Wheres the luv :p

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dpelliott

15 years ago

It probably is now. lol.

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Clark

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jennyuk

My boyfriend says that when you view a youtube video - it uses memory on your computer.

jenn x

He's DEAD WRONG and here's why....

Sit together with him at HIS computer.
Watch a video, any video from YouTube.
Then, point to your computer in the next room mentioning that YOUR computer is turned off thus, isn't utilizing any resources whatsoever when watching a You Tube video.
Collect $50.

(He didn't say, when you watch a You Tube video "on your own computer" - it uses memory on your computer.

Have a nice day!

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Sam Rodrigo

15 years ago

Jenn,

Time to read up on geek stuff and DOUBLE UP on the bet!

Good Luck,
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meldave

15 years ago

Jenn,

This is great stuff, I hope in the future you and your BF have more bets you can post here. Good comic relief.

Hope everthing works out,
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Jolomboy21

15 years ago

to me, if it slows down the computer, uses bandwidth then it uses memory

it's easy to settle, check you taks manager performance when you got youtube and when there is none.

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theinfomaven

15 years ago

control + alt + delete

task manager.

Compare.

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tstewart63

15 years ago

Under ordinary circumstances when anything is transmitted to and from the internet it first hits the memory buffers on the network card. The application itself (ie the browser) already has a location on the cpu where it can be accessed. When data is streamed then much of the info is buffered on the hard drive and fed into the memory (RAM) as needed.
In short I think you owe your boyfriend $50

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jms.mrtn

15 years ago

Wow... looks like you gotta pay up. I like that post someone said about going out to dinner

win win situation...

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DEERFARMER

15 years ago

Send me 25 and ill say you won then we'll split the winnings deal.???/

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Kim Standerline

15 years ago

This sounds about the right answer jenny

Originally Posted by bob_sikorski

Didn't you know that women are always right no matter how wrong they are?

Take the money and run. If he's that much of a dumbass, he'll never know!

Sod whether you're right or not, it doesn't really matter. just grit your teeth and tell him you are anyway. (Usually works for me, but then I've had 30+ years to mould him to my way of thinking lol)

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