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Old 08-24-2008, 10:58 AM   #1
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Default Two years now but nada

Ive been on the net two years now trying to make money????
I have bought into dozens of little programs and never a return.
Now I am starting to feel paranoid Because I am currently doing a program that I pay for traffic, LOTS !! of traffic!
I pay for ads on google and still no results.
BUT this thing is all over the net right now. It was not so saturated when I bought into it.So tell me this is just to weird.
Its not just this it has even been stuff like clickbank and stuff I have advertised and it goes nowhere,yet I get thousands of emails where everyone is making a fortune. I personally sit here on this pc right at 9 hours a day advertising for real,and this has been going like this for two years.Paranoid? Just need answers cause I am in no position to give up on this. And please dont tell me its because of my ads,because I have written many and none work HELP
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:12 AM   #2
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Default Re: Two years now but nada

One thing I will say that will help immediately. STOP spending money on this.

You can make money on the internet without spending money. Once you figure out how to do that, you can easily ramp things up by spending money on promotion. But, until you learn how to make money on the internet in general, you might as well be throwing money down a hole (or just send it straight to me).

My guess is that you're like many of us are when we started. You probably jump around from hot thing to hot thing hoping to strike gold. Unfortunately, that rarely works. You usually end up spending tons of cash and earning very little if anything.

I would recommend that you pick one thing that fits your style and stick with it until you succeed. If you're a good writer, then you might want to go with article writing that promotes affiliate programs. If you're great with video, you can do the same thing with video promotion.

Just be sure to pick one approach and stick with it until you succeed. Once you do that, then, and only then, you can move on to another approach. My guess is though, that once you find success, you won't want to try anything else, you'll be too busy ramping up your success.

I have to reiterate again, if you've been at this for 2 years, spending money and not making any back -- STOP SPENDING MONEY. It's only going to get worse until you figure out how to make the money back for free.

I really mean this to be helpful for you, not insulting, so please don't take it the wrong way. I also hope this advise helps others out there who are throwing money down a hole. I've been there, and it ain't pretty. Now that I've figured out how to make money online without spending a ton, things are looking pretty good.

Good luck!

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Old 08-24-2008, 11:14 AM   #3
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Default Re: Two years now but nada

Hi

You know the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

If you have been getting no results for 2 years then maybe you need to change the way your doing things.

This is a business so first of all it would be nice if you used your name. From my experience people who don't use their real name don't treat this as a real business.

Hard comments I know but if I don't tell you then in 2 years you will be back here making the same comments And by the way all those emails are not necessarily true about them making all that money.

1. Take stock of what you have
2. Work out a plan
3. Do some research
4. Do some tests
5 Take what works and duplicate.

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Old 08-24-2008, 11:18 AM   #4
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The key to making money online is to FOCUS and take SOLID ACTION.

I don't know what else you have tried but you don't have to spend money to make money online. There are tons of ways to make money without spending your hard earned money. One of the methods that you can try is Bum Marketing

http://www.bummarketingmethod.com

(not an affiliate link)

If you have already tried it, try harder.. because it works!

And let me repeat FOCUS and TAKE ACTION.

Good luck,
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Well, whatever, I would say that you have a self-esteem problem judging by your tiny little avatar. (just kidding)

I've you've been at it for two years and have yet to make any money, you need to quit doing whatever it is you've been doing for those two years. Quit joining "programs." Quit buying into money making "systems."

Get away from the internet for a couple of days. Clear your head, and make an assessment of your skills. Certainly if you've been on the net trying to make money for two years you've learned something.

Bring your list of skills back to this thread and you'll be rewarded with some good ideas on how to generate some income and build on the skills you already have.

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Old 08-24-2008, 11:43 AM   #6
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Ive been on the net two years now trying to make money????
I have bought into dozens of little programs and never a return.
Now I am starting to feel paranoid Because I am currently doing a program that I pay for traffic, LOTS !! of traffic!
I pay for ads on google and still no results.
BUT this thing is all over the net right now. It was not so saturated when I bought into it.So tell me this is just to weird.
Its not just this it has even been stuff like clickbank and stuff I have advertised and it goes nowhere,yet I get thousands of emails where everyone is making a fortune. I personally sit here on this pc right at 9 hours a day advertising for real,and this has been going like this for two years.Paranoid? Just need answers cause I am in no position to give up on this. And please dont tell me its because of my ads,because I have written many and none work HELP

It may very well be your ads and what medium you use to get them out
to the public. Just because you've been writing ads for 2 years doesn't
mean they're any good. Sorry to sound harsh, but this is the reality. It
is competitive out there. Many people think they are ad writers and
copywriters and they're not.

Combine that with the possibility that what you're promoting is crap and
you've got a perfect formula for failure. I am speaking from cold hard
experience. My first 5 months online I made $28. It wasn't until somebody
was kind enough to tell me just what I'm telling you now that I had any
success at all.

Without knowing exactly what you've done, written, promoted, whatever,
there is no way to tell you why you're failing. Obviously something is wrong
and I can say this with absolute certainty...that something is what you're
doing.

If you can afford a mentor to get you on the right track, get one, because
obviously after 2 years you're unable to learn what you need to learn on
your own or haven't met the right people.

My suggestion is to hook up with Bev Clement at this forum and work on
a business plan with her. Then take it from there.

So you have some hope, 5 years ago, after that $28 I earned in 5 months,
I am now earning over 6 figures a year. And nobody was more clueless
than I was. I was posting FFA ads and promoting the crappiest programs
on the Internet. I didn't know ad writing from ad nausea.

Point is, once you know what you're doing, AND treat your business like
a business and not like a hobby, you can make a nice income online.

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Default Re: Two years now but nada

I would recommend to start promoting affiliate products if you can write,and you certainly can write articles and that's probably the easiest way to make money.

Stick with one thing until you make money with it.

Quit buying everything, change your mindset and become a seller and not a buyer.

It really isn't that difficult to make your first dollar, it doesn't have to be the big kill, all you need to do is make five dollars $10 or $20 and once you do that you can rinse repeat.

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Default Re: Two years now but nada

Whatever22 - this has all been great advice - better than store bought. Another piece of advice - once you've stopped spending money and taken stock of your skill set do some searches on the warrior forum in just that arena. You'll get an amazing amount of free education right here.

Then - make your first $$$ - such a great feeling and very motivating. Use the bum marketing method mentioned above. It's great, it works and it's free. All of it.
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:16 PM   #9
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I have bought into dozens of little programs
The problem is right there. Many of us fell victim to this nasty distraction.
Look at it this way, if I opened a hardware store and after a month decided that I really wanted to open a McDonalds and went to do that then after a couple of months changed my mind and having a shoe store would make more money than...you see what where this is going.

Follow the advice here about looking into the Bum Marketing Method.
It is a great way to start and focus on just that until you have made some money. That is the key. Focus on one way of making a buck. Once you have learned how to make a buck use that to make two and so on.


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What are you trying to market?

This is the first question you need to tackle and determine is this niche even worth it. If its that saturated why bother!

Understand that the net is full of folks looking to solve a problem:
1) how to increase their wealth
2) how to improve their health, loose weight etc...
3) self help type products in the relationship arena

I recommend that you focus on the above 3 and that's it! You can further sub-niche and find your sweet spot. Point here is to focus on a product that solves a problem. There is so much money being spent on these products it's amazing. People will shell out money by the boat load just to to improve their lives.

If you are not converting maybe it's that your copy sucks. I strongly suggest that you revaluate the product you are trying to market and DON"T get discouraged.

I started my IM business in 2000 and failed miserably! I gave up in 2003 and literally took 5 years off until this year. I decided to get back into the IM game, I am more experienced from learning all the mistakes I committed.

As far as spening money I carefully pick and choose what I NEED and look at the WSO for some products that will be valuable. So far the best WSO I have bought this year is from Imran (forgot his last name) anyway he's from the UK.

Don't spend too much money it's not necessary to make it in this business.

Wish you the best of luck!!!!!!!


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Whatever22,

I see that you are new here, welcome. You've already taken a big step in the right direction by joining the warrior forum and beginning to get active. Lots of smart, talented and motivated folks here as you can see from the advice given above. Heed their words. Before you know it, you'll be one of the ones giving good advice to someone, while you cash your checks in the background .

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