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Old 08-24-2008, 12:06 PM   #1
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Those were the exact words of my older cousin at the family
picnic.

"I've been at my job for 9 1/2 years and I've
already made $65k this year".

I was ready to wrap my arms around him and shed a tear
and tell him "you poor soul" you'll make more money soon.

Then I realized he was actually estatic and sort of bragging.

It's funny how IM expands your mind to think bigger.

I remember a few years ago I would have thought making
$65k in 8 months was a dream.

Any similiar experiences?

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Old 08-24-2008, 12:16 PM   #2
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I wouldn't say I had a similar xperience..

BUT

I seriously used to work a job in my fathers business for £15k a year and was over the moon when I moved up to £22k...then became a director...

Then I found IM.. and my income exploded to the point that my position in the family business was worthless..

And now I laugh about my excitement over £22k...lol

Funny how IM expands you mind eh?... .. thanks for the memories

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I am in no way making a killing from the internet like the gurus (hopefully soon) but yes it saddens me when I see people working so hard in their day jobs but barely making ends meet. Truly, ignorance is the cause of poverty.


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Seems like pay raises lead to nicer cars and homes,
but since the increase in income is usually directly
proportionate to overhead expenses, it doesn't seem
to make sense to me that people rejoice over this...

The great thing about an online business is that overhead
can be kept to a minimum, and for most people starting
out, this simply means quitting all membership sites you're
not using, gettting hosting, an autoresponder and building
a business with overhead costs that equals my dunkin donuts
monthly intake...


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I used to think my 5 thousand christmas bonus was amazinggg...
Now I send an email and make 3 times that
It truly is amazing how ignorant people are about making money online...you can make so much money.

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Old 08-24-2008, 01:10 PM   #6
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We're just privileged we have the internet. Making money the hard way is all that many people understand or know.

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can someone take me by the hand and teach me how to make all this money u guys are talking about! hahahha, just kidding, some tips would be nice though!
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I think the difference is "mindset." The only limitations are the ones in the mind. The Internet provides a great vehicle for realizing one's dreams and vision. The key is having the right mindset, coupling it with focus and taking massive action as a result.

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Just put this into perspective. My cousin who is a top international commercial lawyer, has just bought a $750,000 Bentley (Yes, it costs twice as much in Hong Kong). He would be laughing at the measley amounts made by most IMers.

Not that I want to be him. I am completely satisfied with what I am doing. But I just do not believe that the average IMer earns more than those in high earning professions.

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I agree it's a mindset. We still have our ups and downs but we're never "poor". We might be "in between deposits" or "broke" instead.

We're planning to move back to Tucson in about 10 months and the other day we were talking about upcoming rent. I looked at my husband and started laughing because my mind had just informed me that we ONLY need another $6000 for rent on this place till we move. I found it fantastic that I thought "only".

My kids have picked up on this mindset too. When my youngest son was home last, he was showing his girlfriend of the time his 1st laptop (he has 2 now). She said something like "I bet that was expensive, huh?" and "What are the payments like on something like that?" and the payments question particularly went completely over his head. His response was an enthusiastic "Oh no it was only $950!"

I carry $5000+ worth of equipment around with me without a second thought, and my grown kids have started doing the same on a smaller scale. They pay cash for everything just like we do. People come to our house and they're in awe at the various gizmos and gadgets we work with on a daily basis. And they're confused too, because sometimes we say we don't have the money for something, and no one understands the concept of being in between deposits. They assume we "can't afford it" when in reality we simply don't have the cash on hand. They also can't seem to fathom paying cash for stuff you want. It's amusing but it's definitely a pride point for us

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But I just do not believe that the average IMer earns more than those in high earning professions.
Thanks Dr. Obvious...

The average IMer doesn't make anything.

Now are you insuating that the top end of SUCCESSFUL
internet business owners, don't make as much as
high earning professions?

That would be ignorant. Cuz I wanna see a high earning
professional who has became a billionaire off of a "paystub".

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"That would be ignorant. Cuz I wanna see a high earning
professional who has became a billionaire off of a "paystub".

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"That would be ignorant. Cuz I wanna see a high earning
professional who has became a billionaire off of a "paystub".

Steve Ballmer
Do your research. He didn't becomea billionaire off a paystub.

LOL

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For some people, $65,000 a year, regardless of what they're doing, especially
in some parts of the world, is a lot of money.

Kind of depends on your frame of reference.

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For some people, $65,000 a year, regardless of what they're doing, especially
in some parts of the world, is a lot of money.
It sure is. It's probably a lot of money for 99.5% of the world population.

I mean, here in middle America $65k will get you a nice house, car, and enough money to save some back and take your family on a nice vacation once a year.

Now, I know that's not the "dream lifestyle you see pictured in magazines, and it won't do that in the bigger cities...but considering others are digging through the trash for dinner, fighting off gunfire, etc...most all of us have it pretty good.

Just look how technology changes everything so fast. The most common conveniences we have now were only in the life a multi-millionaire, if that, 5-10 years ago.
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It sure is. It's probably a lot of money for 99.5% of the world population.

I mean, here in middle America $65k will get you a nice house, car, and enough money to save some back and take your family on a nice vacation once a year.

Now, I know that's not the "dream lifestyle you see pictured in magazines, and it won't do that in the bigger cities...but considering others are digging through the trash for dinner, fighting off gunfire, etc...most all of us have it pretty good.
I never understood this mentality.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about giving and helping.

So because someone ELSE doesn't have their mind right
I'm suppose to feel any different about making $65k in a year?

To me that's pennies compared to what is possible.

I know this. I don't have that scarcity mindset. There is
enough for all of us to surpass that many times over.

And people seem to miss the point of this thread just for
the sake of wanting to "debate", which is cool.

But this is the same forum that talks all day about mindset,
and when I give you a specific example of the different
mindsets, the best response soem people can come up with is

"$65k is great to some people". I understand that, but that wasn't
the point of this thread now was it?

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My 'offline' job pays me near $100k

My wife makes an extra $20k part-time.

We're nowhere near throwing in the towel to those yet.

However, I'm getting the hang of this now, and it's starting to pay off.

I don't want a Ferrari...I don't even drive!

I won't give up work until I KNOW I can RELIABLY earn as much as I do at the moment.

With a young family, that's just common sense.

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I used to think my 5 thousand christmas bonus was amazinggg...
Now I send an email and make 3 times that
Why am I skeptical about that?
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I never understood this mentality.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about giving and helping.

So because someone ELSE doesn't have their mind right
I'm suppose to feel any different about making $65k in a year?

To me that's pennies compared to what is possible.


I know this. I don't have that scarcity mindset. There is
enough for all of us to surpass that many times over.

And people seem to miss the point of this thread just for
the sake of wanting to "debate", which is cool.

But this is the same forum that talks all day about mindset,
and when I give you a specific example of the different
mindsets, the best response soem people can come up with is

"$65k is great to some people". I understand that, but that wasn't
the point of this thread now was it?
Your cousin is on target to hit what, $100k this year...that's a nice income, and a nice income that I'd say 95% of all registered Warriors do not make.

I think everyone here will agree that $65k in eight months is "pennies compared to what is possible". And you can do that with $100k, $500k, etc... it's all "pennies compared to what is possible".

It's not what is possible, it's what you're actually doing that counts.
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I never understood this mentality.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about giving and helping.

So because someone ELSE doesn't have their mind right
I'm suppose to feel any different about making $65k in a year?
So anyone who makes less than $65k a year doesn't have their mind right?

People like teachers, police officers, for example?
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It's not what is possible, it's what you're actually doing that counts.
That's where you 100% wrong.

that's the mindset that holds everyone back.

it's NOT about what you are making right now. It's about
what you believe is POSSIBLE for you.

If that was the case I'd still be making 9/hr.

I remember hearing a Jerry DRhino audio and he
was saying how he went to dinner with Jack Canfield
and he Jerry and his friends were doing 1-2 mill a year
and thought they were on top of the world.

Jack looked at them as said "Don't worry you'll make some
real money soon".

He said at that point his life changed because he started
thinking even bigger. He saw that it was possible
to make even more.

And that's the point of this thread. It's not to look down
on how much anyone makes.

I don't care if I was making $100 a month, I still would think
$65k is terrible.

It's the mindset that's important, screw what you are currently
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So anyone who makes less than $65k a year doesn't have their mind right?

People like teachers, police officers, for example?
OMG are you serious?

You just don't get it do you...

You rather nitpick and overlook the obvious golden point just to
argue.

And then you wonder why "gurus" come here just when
they have a launch then disappear.

Maybe that's what I should start doing.

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I think Josh Kulp was trying to make a point instead of asking a question.
But people... please .... We are all living in different countries... For some people 65k is a lot of money and for other people it's a laugh... We can discuss for years about this, but if people are happy with the amount they earn each year it's ok right? Waste of time if the tread is going on like this...

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And then you wonder why "gurus" come here just when
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Maybe that's what I should start doing.
The disappearing part sounds great!
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Well, I am not making 65k per year yet with IM, but I have learned a great deal just in the short time I have been here.

I can truly understand how the limited mindset that considers 65k per year to be awesome money can hold people back. I will not be one of those people.

My eyes have been opened to the possibilities to my income potential since coming here.

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Very good thread to remind me how was I thinking in the beginning.

In my country the average salary is $750 monthly and you can make a good living with that money monthly.

That is nothing compared to internet marketing money.

Too long waiting my $300 a day....

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Hi Daniel,

I find your comments and attitude interesting and enlightening. I believe the wealthy people I know would find your attitude distasteful and not typical of the 'really' wealthy. They tend to feel that remaining humble towards others in a different financial position is a prerequisite for managing their situation.

And some of them are from the 'street' too.

These quotes make sense to me -

The superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions. Confucius

Humility is the only true wisdom by which we prepare our minds for all the possible changes of life. George Arliss

I didn't miss the point and I think it is important to have an abundance mindset but not at the expense of everything else.

Just look at your responses to anyone who happened to have a different opinion to you -

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OMG are you serious?

You just don't get it do you...
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that's the mindset that holds everyone back.
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For those of us who are not making $65k on IM, I am sure that our determination will lead us there. However, we shouldn't be put down for not making our goal yet. Some people have different expectations than others.

My mother thinks that $30k a year is "Good Money." I, on the other hand think that $30 is depressing, but I also understand that there are a lot of people who make that amount of money and absolutely love what they do.

While I have different opinions in how much money I would like to make, I admire them for finding and doing something that makes their life fulfilled.

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I know my reseach. You seem to be belittling people on paychecks and I just want to give you an example of a person who became a billionaire just by working for for somebody else. There are billionaires who were doctors or lawyers but they inherited or made their wealth elsewhere.

Depends what you mean by the top end of IM business owners. I would still say that the top 1% of IMers do not make as much as the top 1% of high earning professionals. You should remember that top professionaals would be also be running large firms such as medical clinics, law, accountacy and architeture firms with hundreds of employees.

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Regardless of the amount made through your online business it offers at least 2 advantages over the traditional work model:

1 - You don't have to work for someone else because IM provides you the opportunity to work for yourself. Of course, this means you are also responsible for your own successes and failures.

2 - The ability to create income on demand. I have seen time and again how it is possible to generate income with a few hours of concentrated/focused effort. It truly is a business where you can be rewarded for your efforts.

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Many of us may make much more, but $65k in 8 months (or $97,500 a year if he makes the same rate) is nothing to look down on. That's good pay, a lot of Americans are just barely getting by with jobs that pay a third of that and kids to support. That kind of salary is plenty for a nice life, not everyone needs to be rich to be happy!


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I personally would hate working 8-5 every day...
I love workign when I want, where I want and being in complete control
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I personally would hate working 8-5 every day...
I love workign when I want, where I want and being in complete control
Having a job doesn't mean working 8-5 for everyone. When I was working at Microsoft, I started my day around 10 or 11 most of the time, and went home around 5 or 6 whenever I felt I got enough done. I'm not a morning person.

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I have a buddy who just this last week turned me down on an offer to set him up with an info product site because he thought it was "Unethical"

He needs to make $3K by the middle of next month or he'll lose is home in a tax sale.

What. The. Hell.

It's not the income dunce-cap, it's not not the $200K in academic debt to get the $35K job, it's not even the humiliation of sucking up to a "boss"...

It's the debilitating mindset.

It's the freakish belief we as human beings are limited in our ability to better our lives, souls and essentially rise above the squaller.

Now I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a paycheck... I used to work for one and there was a time I PRAYED a steady paycheck would come my way...

I'm just saying the little child-like flame of possibility has been snuffed in so many people.

It's sad.

But at the same time it's necessary...

So let's raise a frothy Sunday beverage to those who refuse to join us on this fantastic road to freedom and send them on their marry $65K/year way!

TO THE SELF-INFLICTED WORKING POOR!

May they never know the pain of the unknown journey...

May they never know the bite of failure...

And may they NEVER taste the sweet taste of success so they will NEVER know just what they are missing!

CHEERS!

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heck I made $65 K last Nite.....

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I have a buddy who just this last week turned me down on an offer to set him up with an info product site because he thought it was "Unethical"
He's not the only person that gets that bad feeling in their stomach when it comes to the idea of selling info products. I know the folks on this forum will justify it with all kinds of wonderful "all the lives I've changed" stuff, but most of the people that buy "info products" on clickbank and the like (especially if they're just "set up" by someone, and didn't actually make the product themselves) are just flushing money down the toilet.

And in the end maybe he'd rather not feel like a snake oil salesman even if it helps him pay that bill.

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most of the people that buy "info products" on clickbank and the like (especially if they're just "set up" by someone, and didn't actually make the product themselves) are just flushing money down the toilet.

And in the end maybe he'd rather not feel like a snake oil salesman even if it helps him pay that bill.
Last time I checked, everything on Clickbank came with a refund policy.

How many products from there have you bought and reviewed to make your amazing claim?

Do you consider people who write printed books to be snake oil salesmen?
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Quite a few. I've never seen a sales letter attached to a book at Borders promising guaranteed income, millions of dollars in free AdWords, or unlimited real traffic if I just subscribe today!

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Why would a salesletter be attached to an item in a store? That makes no sense.

You seem to be unaware that the majority of products at Clickbank have nothing to do with making money.

I only know of 1 out of thousands that has to do with getting free Google ads.

Could you list some products that promise unlimited traffic?
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Haha man you tricked me with the title of that thread.

Thats the difference between the offline world and the online world.

There is no limitations, although 65k is a nice amount of money in the offline world it can take a long time and a lot of hard work to acheive that.

Where as in the online world that and much more can easily be made in a single day.

Sometimes its amazing to notice how different peoples mind sets are and you think if they just knew what else was possible it could change their lives.

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Could you list some products that promise unlimited traffic?
That won't change how Jonny's friend feels, my point was he's not the only one, and that not wanting to sell someone else's info product doesn't mean he doesn't want to make money.

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The other day in class I heard someone bragging about getting out of school making $40k-$50k/year.

I just minded my own business and let him think he was going to be rich.

It was not so long ago that I myself thought it was a good trade to spend $200,000 becoming a dentist and investing much more than than into a practice to make $200k-$300k/year
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I would like to see one who has become a billionaire off of IM. Or even a millionaire.


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Interesting thread!

For me, money buys the time I need to have the things money can't buy.

That's what gets me excited about the possibilities of IM.

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The other day in class I heard someone bragging about getting out of school making $40k-$50k/year.

I just minded my own business and let him think he was going to be rich.

It was not so long ago that I myself thought it was a good trade to spend $200,000 becoming a dentist and investing much more than than into a practice to make $200k-$300k/year
Hey, noticed we both live in the same area.

A lot of dentists leave early on Thursday...don't take appointments at all on Friday-Sunday. So they work Mon-Thursday afternoon and pull in 300k/year...doesn't sound too bad to me.
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That's where you 100% wrong.

that's the mindset that holds everyone back.

it's NOT about what you are making right now. It's about
what you believe is POSSIBLE for you.

If that was the case I'd still be making 9/hr.

I remember hearing a Jerry DRhino audio and he
was saying how he went to dinner with Jack Canfield
and he Jerry and his friends were doing 1-2 mill a year
and thought they were on top of the world.

Jack looked at them as said "Don't worry you'll make some
real money soon".

He said at that point his life changed because he started
thinking even bigger. He saw that it was possible
to make even more.

And that's the point of this thread. It's not to look down
on how much anyone makes.

I don't care if I was making $100 a month, I still would think
$65k is terrible.

It's the mindset that's important, screw what you are currently
making.

Daniel

Daniel,

Your point is well made and I agree with you. It is all about your mindset. You can make $1mil a month online. Look at the owner of Doubleyourdating He pulls in way more than that. I love internet marketing. Anything can happen. Keep expanding your minds ladies and gentlemen.

Steve
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I used to be a sports coach and I still play a little and of course talk to the coach at our club.

He was complaining about how little he gets paid for the effort he has to put in (true...I did the same job).

When I got home I realized I'd made more money in digital online sales while I was slacking off playing the sport than the coach did working his arse off the whole day.

That's what I really like about internet marketing...the lifestyle.

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