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Any Truth About Six-pack Abs Affiliates Here?

by James Liberty
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For those of you who are promoting The Truth About Six-pack Abs,
are you sending your prospects to Clickbank's default landing page
for this product? The reason I am asking is that the default landing
page has a headline on it that says "7 Odd Foods that will KILL Your
Abdominal Fat" -- yet the corresponding videos have absolutely nothing
to do with this! (Yet, somehow, this product sells very well).

Confused,
James
#abs #affiliates #sixpack #truth
  • Profile picture of the author t1kuslik
    Hi James,

    Yes, I am an affiliate of this program but am not having that much luck with it. My site is ashotofadrenaline.net and am having a difficult time coming up with an effective strategy.

    Have you promoted TAA long? Would love to brainstorm with you.

    Todd
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by James Liberty View Post

    somehow, this product sells very well
    Sales figures are not published by ClickBank. Not for you or for me, and not for any of the other sites who claim to be able to estimate them from their own "secret algorithms". Only ClickBank and the vendor know how well it's selling. (Don't imagine that a high gravity score necessarily has any correlation at all with numbers of sales. I'm "just saying").

    That said, I can't help you. I certainly know many people who've tried to promote it and failed, but I haven't tried it, myself (and wouldn't, anyway, with that sales page - though unlike the paragraph above, this part is purely personal opinion, of course).
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    • Profile picture of the author Trafficlandslide
      [QUOTE=Alexa Smith;6380920]Sales figures are not published by ClickBank. Not for you or for me, and not for any of the other sites who claim to be able to estimate them from their own "secret algorithms". Only ClickBank and the vendor know how well it's selling. (Don't imagine that a high gravity score necessarily has any correlation at all with numbers of sales. I'm "just saying").



      Ok so are you saying Cb gravity has nothing to do with the sales history of the product? What does the score mean then? Is there no way to find out how well a product has been selling? I suppose spying on adword campaigns could give you a clue that it is profitable.

      On another note I looked at marketing this product but I'm glad I'm not. I wouldn't want to market a product that doesn't do what it says it is going to do on the opening page. This leads to people bouncing away frustrated they didn't get what they were promised.

      This does have a cb gravity over 100 which is good but if the landing page is bad you might as well find another product to promote.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Trafficlandslide View Post

        Ok so are you saying Cb gravity has nothing to do with the sales history of the product? What does the score mean then?
        Explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2495251
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        • Profile picture of the author beks001
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
            Originally Posted by beks001 View Post

            Alexa knows this stuff better than anyone I have ever spoken with. So she is probably on target with whatever answer she provides. I wanted to throw in my two cents here for what it is worth though too.

            I may be wrong here but I think I know why this product appears to do so well in Clickbank. Mike Geary is a huge media buyer. He has perfected his ROI and knows where to buy and where not to buy. That being said, when he does an adbuy he promotes himself as an affiliate with an affiliate ID I believe. This would somehow have an effect on the gravity of a product I think. I have heard that he sells a ton and makes alot of money but I don't know.

            I believe he does and I am truly inspired by the man. However, there are many other ways he is making money from this product. It is not just based on clickbank sales I don't think. That's all I can say without knowing the 100% on it.

            The more a product is being pushed, the harder it is for an affiliate to make a sale IMO. The biggest affiliate programs have tens of thousands of affiliates yet only a small percentage of them make huge $$$$ from them. Just my 2 cents.
            It certainly doesn't matter if he is accessing huge media buys and him being his own affiliate just confirms that his sales process converts. If he can get it to convert then so can anyone else, they just have to do their homework and figure out the best demographic for this product.

            You have thought about demographics haven't you? It;s not just about the keywords but also the demographic you are promoting to.
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            • Profile picture of the author beks001
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
                Originally Posted by beks001 View Post

                We know that there are many factors that effect promoting. Not just keywords for sure. Your reply makes it seem like I was "downing" the guy. If anything I praise the guy and think he is brilliant for having such success with a product in a great lucrative industry filled with habitual buyers. Mike, you are correct...if he can sell it then so can others. You have to agree though that more ppl promoting it makes it harder to sell from an affiliate perspective. You must agree with this I would think???
                Actually I don't worry about other affiliates or how many there are because most affiliates are crappy at marketing and give up far too soon. The objective is to look where all the affiliates are which will be for obvious keywords, etc. So, your job as a better marketer is to think outside the box a little.

                Change your strategy from what everyone else is doing and target specific pockets of traffic. For example everyone who promotes Truth About Abs targets people who want to lose weight and people who want a tighter belly. Those are obvious areas for this product and almost all the affiliates fight it out in that narrow area.

                Think outside the box and start looking at other areas like divorced males who want to look better to find another woman for instance. Or, men who have no confidence or no luck with women - it's your job to show them how this product will benefit them by boosting their confidence and increasing their chances with women because women love men who take care of themselves.

                You can do this for any product or market. Focus on the less obvious!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Sales figures are not published by ClickBank. Not for you or for me, and not for any of the other sites who claim to be able to estimate them from their own "secret algorithms". Only ClickBank and the vendor know how well it's selling. (Don't imagine that a high gravity score necessarily has any correlation at all with numbers of sales. I'm "just saying").

      That said, I can't help you. I certainly know many people who've tried to promote it and failed, but I haven't tried it, myself (and wouldn't, anyway, with that sales page - though unlike the paragraph above, this part is purely personal opinion, of course).
      It's well known this product sells very well

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  • Profile picture of the author BlackIrish
    I'm an affiliate too and haven't had much luck with these guys - other programs have converted far better to be honest.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Liberty
      Originally Posted by BlackIrish View Post

      I'm an affiliate too and haven't had much luck with these guys - other programs have converted far better to be honest.
      I believe this product has the third highest gravity on all of Clickbank. It seems that someone out there must be making sales in order for the gravity to be so high... right?
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      • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
        Originally Posted by James Liberty View Post

        I believe this product has the third highest gravity on all of Clickbank. It seems that someone out there must be making sales in order for the gravity to be so high... right?
        Is reading the link Alexa gave you in post 5 really so difficult?

        Gravity tells you how many people are making sales - but not how many sales are being made.

        So if 100 people each made one sale - you would get a gravity score of 100. But if one person made 1,000 sales - you would get a gravity score of 1.

        Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    The info Mike Geary provides his affiliates makes it pretty transparent about how his bigger affiliates do and his (or his teams) constant testing and reports are very helpful. I have it earning at $0.10/hop going back to Feb. Sales naturally spiked in January and these aren't included in that figure. I'm not too active with it though as my traffic source has dried up. If you do the figures he provides as case studies you'll see the margins are small if you rely on paid traffic.

    Personally I had the best success with a custom ad that had women clicking the left and men the right - each side would go to the men's or women's video presentation.

    Most of my sales include customers buying upsells.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamk
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    I am not an affiliate with them. But I think you should get some other product for promotion. Because it is a really tough niche at the moment. Also don't worry about the sales pages. They have tested and tweaked them to make sure that the conversions remain high.
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  • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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    Originally Posted by James Liberty View Post

    For those of you who are promoting The Truth About Six-pack Abs,
    are you sending your prospects to Clickbank's default landing page
    for this product? The reason I am asking is that the default landing
    page has a headline on it that says "7 Odd Foods that will KILL Your
    Abdominal Fat" -- yet the corresponding videos have absolutely nothing
    to do with this! (Yet, somehow, this product sells very well).

    Confused,
    James
    If I had to guess, I'd say a lot of the better affiliates don't send folks to the home page, but send them to one of the many different pages he provides.

    Affiliate Alternate Landing Pages - TruthAboutAbs.com.
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