Article Marketing is it good for ClickBank ?

by artse
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Hey there Warriors

I have a simple question because people tend to think that Article Marketing is a good way to PROMOTE Clickbank products.
Is it a GOOD METHOD ?
I`m asking this because most important Article Websites does not accepts affiliate links clickbank no chance, even if you put your blog link , you might get unpublished so...... IS IT GOOD to do ARTICLE Marketing ?

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by artse View Post

    Is it a GOOD METHOD ?
    Yes; it's outstanding. But I'm biased - like many people here, I make my living from it.

    Originally Posted by artse View Post

    I`m asking this because most important Article Websites does not accepts affiliate links clickbank no chance
    It makes no difference whether or not they accept affiliate links, because you can't sell enough ClickBank products to be worth talking about that way, anyway. They're sold like this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5210243

    Originally Posted by artse View Post

    even if you put your blog link , you might get unpublished
    That's never once happened to me in over three and half years.

    This post will help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

    And this one might: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

    Bear in mind that the article marketing is the traffic-generating part of the business. The other parts of the business, as described here and here, or something very similar to them, are also needed, to convert the traffic attracted into sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by ddev View Post

      In General, Article Marketing Distribution is Dead (Each Google Update Destroys them a little more).
      That's article directory marketing, not article marketing.

      The Google updates have been very kind and beneficial to article marketing. Especially all the Panda updates, but the Penguin update, too. As so many professional article marketers have been explaining here, in such detail, in so many threads, for so many months.

      Originally Posted by ddev View Post

      Try to target long tailed keywords and try to make them go social (get them shared on different platforms) as that will help for SEO.
      Article marketing is not intrinsically about SEO. It's a largely non-SEO-based traffic-generation method in its own right.
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      • Profile picture of the author artse
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        That's article directory marketing, not article marketing.

        The Google updates have been very kind and beneficial to article marketing. Especially all the Panda updates, but the Penguin update, too. As so many professional article marketers have been explaining here, in such detail, in so many threads, for so many months.



        Article marketing is not intrinsically about SEO. It's a largely non-SEO-based traffic-generation method in its own right.
        Hey Alexa

        Light me up

        That's article directory marketing, not article marketing.

        Which is the difference ? give me examples so i can fully understand
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by artse View Post

          Hey Alexa

          Light me up

          That's article directory marketing, not article marketing.

          Which is the difference ? give me examples so i can fully understand
          Allow me.

          Article Directory Marketing is mass submitting articles to directories for their "high quality backlinks."

          Article Marketing involves syndicating your articles to relevant sites for their traffic and for a relevant backlink.

          It's pretty standard and easy to differentiate between.
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          • Profile picture of the author artse
            Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

            Allow me.

            Article Directory Marketing is mass submitting articles to directories for their "high quality backlinks."

            Article Marketing involves syndicating your articles to relevant sites for their traffic and for a relevant backlink.

            It's pretty standard and easy to differentiate between.
            I`m a bit new at this thank you for your patience so that`s why i start with logical question first

            Thill now i`ve submitted to Ezinearticles, Squidoo and hubpages , one by one article, in which category am i Article Directory Marketing or Article Marketing ?

            For example i want to approach a gaming niche, which websites would be good for this kind of category.
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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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              Originally Posted by artse View Post

              I`m a bit new at this thank you for your patience so that`s why i start with logical question first

              Thill now i`ve submitted to Ezinearticles, Squidoo and hubpages , one by one article, in which category am i Article Directory Marketing or Article Marketing ?
              Closer to article directory marketing. Squidoo and Hubpages aren't directories though. Just to be clear, article directory marketing is actually dead.

              Originally Posted by artse View Post

              For example i want to approach a gaming niche, which websites would be good for this kind of category.
              To perform real article marketing, you would want your articles syndicated to relevant gaming sites. You are going to need high quality articles though. People don't republish average stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddev
    Good point of view Alexa. I personally think and see that the traffic from Google to Article Directories (their main source of traffic) is going down and down and down since Panda.

    You can verify this by going to Semrush.com and entering an article directory (to the left you'll se the trending curve of the traffic being referred by G to the each site).

    It's another situation when you submit your content to sites with certain moderation (some that have been mentioned before).

    Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
    Hey Alexa,

    Do you have a keyword 'pinger' and every time the phrase Article Marketing pops up on WF it 'pings you?

    Or you just, like, hang out here a lot, lol.

    Not to mention you must have a WF 'article thread' database on your PC somewhere.

    Nice reply.

    I've made a mental note to never bothering replying to a question after you - just no point!

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by ddev View Post

      I personally think and see that the traffic from Google to Article Directories (their main source of traffic) is going down and down and down since Panda.
      For sure - absolutely. No question about it.

      That's a huge plus to article marketers. It means we can freely use article directories for the purpose for which they exist without worrying about the danger that potential customers putting one of our keywords into a search engine might find the article directory copy rather than the copy originally published and indexed on our own site, which would be the last thing we'd ever want to happen.

      Originally Posted by ddev View Post

      You can verify this by going to Semrush.com
      To "verify" it? I've been announcing and explaining it for nearly a year. I'm hardly "questioning" it.

      That's just one of the many ways the Google updates have helped us article marketers.

      Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

      Do you have a keyword 'pinger' and every time the phrase Article Marketing pops up on WF it 'pings you?
      LOL, I should put in a "Google alert" for it.

      Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

      I've made a mental note to never bothering replying to a question after you - just no point!
      Noooooo, be my guest, it's nearly 1.00 here and I'm going to bed now, anyway. Thank you, Paul - sorry, I ran out of official "thanks" for the day.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by artse View Post

        Hey there Warriors

        I have a simple question because people tend to think that Article Marketing is a good way to PROMOTE Clickbank products.
        Is it a GOOD METHOD ?
        I`m asking this because most important Article Websites does not accepts affiliate links clickbank no chance, even if you put your blog link , you might get unpublished so...... IS IT GOOD to do ARTICLE Marketing ?

        Thanks
        Alexa, if I didn't know better, I'd swear you had someone teeing these up for you...
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Barrs
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Noooooo, be my guest, it's nearly 1.00 here and I'm going to bed now, anyway. Thank you, Paul - sorry, I ran out of official "thanks" for the day.
        Gave you one of mine, :

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          Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

          Gave you one of mine, :

          P.
          haha i like this
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  • Profile picture of the author nouvellevie
    My question is anyone making money with click bank?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by nouvellevie View Post

      My question is anyone making money with click bank?
      No, nobody makes money with Clickbank at all. It's all a lie. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    Article marketing & Clickbank can be a fantastic combination if you are doing it correctly.

    I used to be in the opinion of "write articles & submit them to ezinearticles.com with a link to your affiliate product review page."

    Now, this in itself isn't wrong per se (I made sales this way for sure), but it certainly isn't the most effective way to get things done.

    If you are going to focus on article marketing to generate affiliate sales, then you should write high quality articles (for human readers, not keyword stuffed crap) and put them on your own website.

    This is much more powerful, and if a potential searcher finds your blog post as opposed to an article submitted to an article directory...well that is just one less hurdle they have to jump through to get to your affiliate link

    Also, make sure that you are building a list with your article marketing efforts...nothing is better than having a steady supply of leads to market your products to.

    So, does article marketing & Clickbank work? Sure it does, if you go about it in the correct manner!
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    I have never been much of a fan of article marketing, and my attempts at it have failed miserably. Always spent more on articles than I got in return from commissions.

    But I think article marketing is pretty well dead since Panda/Penguin. You might still be able to make a little money, but I doubt it will be worth the effort.

    U have been wrong before and I will be wrong again. Just my $0.02.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      But I think article marketing is pretty well dead since Panda/Penguin.
      On the contrary, Tim: as explained above, and in so many other threads (by so many other people), Google's Panda and Penguin updates have been a major help and benefit to article marketing.

      I'm afraid you're thinking of article directory marketing: that, indeed, is pretty much dead. (And was, actually, even before the Panda updates - they were only the last nail in its coffin-lid). But that hasn't got much to do with "article marketing".

      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      You might still be able to make a little money, but I doubt it will be worth the effort.
      You haven't noticed, then, that the forum is increasingly full of people successfully making our livings that way? Nor all the threads full of posts in which so many people explain how all those Google updates have boosted our article marketing businesses?

      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      have been wrong before and I will be wrong again.
      It doesn't matter ... your confusion here (and that of other people, probably, reading the thread!) arises because what you're describing/discussing isn't actually article marketing at all - it's article directory marketing. :p

      If the difference between the two interests you, I think this post (and all the links inside it), and this post and maybe this post will help you.

      Article directory marketing (the attempt to misuse article directories for their own backlinks and/or their own traffic) was a brief latecomer to the game, hasn't worked for quite a while now - it was just a sort of "temporary blip" based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what article directories are, how they work, who they're intended for and what "benefits" are available from them. A completely different thing from "article marketing". Thankfully!
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      • Profile picture of the author Magento modules
        A very good point of view well i think a Article marketing is one of the best way to promote your Click bank product go search out some good and high PR websites and than submit your article and must concentrate on a unique content, because unique content is a king..
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      • Profile picture of the author artse
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        On the contrary, Tim: as explained above, and in so many other threads (by so many other people), Google's Panda and Penguin updates have been a major help and benefit to article marketing.

        I'm afraid you're thinking of article directory marketing: that, indeed, is pretty much dead. (And was, actually, even before the Panda updates - they were only the last nail in its coffin-lid). But that hasn't got much to do with "article marketing".



        You haven't noticed, then, that the forum is increasingly full of people successfully making our livings that way? Nor all the threads full of posts in which so many people explain how all those Google updates have boosted our article marketing businesses?



        It doesn't matter ... your confusion here (and that of other people, probably, reading the thread!) arises because what you're describing/discussing isn't actually article marketing at all - it's article directory marketing. :p

        If the difference between the two interests you, I think this post (and all the links inside it), and this post and maybe this post will help you.

        Article directory marketing (the attempt to misuse article directories for their own backlinks and/or their own traffic) was a brief latecomer to the game, hasn't worked for quite a while now - it was just a sort of "temporary blip" based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what article directories are, how they work, who they're intended for and what "benefits" are available from them. A completely different thing from "article marketing". Thankfully!
        Alexa,

        I`m a new warrior , but i think that my questions will light up the other new warriors.

        What are the best common Article websites these days? ( NOT DIRECTORIES )
        I want to choose for example to promote gaming products from clickbank , what are the main ARTICLE Websites to do this , and do i search specific gaming article websites to promote my gaming products?

        I`m a bit confused because i thought that HubPages and Squidoo are NOT Article Directories are they Article Marketing Websites or Article Directories?

        Thanks so much
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by markhere View Post

          Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the reason most people say article marketing is dead is from the SEO point of view,
          Yes, I think this is right. They mean "article directory marketing", in other words.

          The irony of it all is that article marketing (as opposed to article directory marketing), done correctly, can actually be hugely beneficial for SEO, as a side-benefit. But obviously not by mass-submission and/or spinning!

          Originally Posted by markhere View Post

          because in order to gain backlinks most people spin the articles and submit them to 1000's of directories. So links from these spun low quality directories have devalued over the years.
          Yes, agreed. They were never very good anyway, to be honest. Even a year before the Panda updates devalued article directories (and similar sites) so much, the standard, authority SEO textbook authors were explaining that in link-juice terms, something between 50,000 and 100,000 of "those backlinks" were roughly equivalent to one backlink from a relevant authority site. (And of course those backlinks have deteriorated even further, since then.)

          Many people imagine (completely wrongly) that "article marketing" refers to using websites of the article directory/web 2.0 kind in an attempt to benefit from those sites' own backlinks and/or own traffic. Of course, that was never true at all, never worked very well, and is now more or less completely useless.

          The reality is that many people who use article directories, and even some people who write what they call article marketing "guidebooks" don't actually understand what an article directory is, and why they exist in the first place, let alone how to use them profitably as a marketer.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

          Originally Posted by artse View Post

          i think that my questions will light up the other new warriors.
          I can understand why you might think that, Artse, but the reality is that all this information, all these explanations, have already been well covered in hundreds of other threads. One of the problems is that people keep starting off a new thread all the time, rather than looking around for it.

          Originally Posted by artse View Post

          What are the best common Article websites these days?
          There aren't any "best common article websites".

          The one that matters most is always your own site.

          After that, it's any decent, relevant sites in your niche.

          All of your article marketing questions are answered at length and in detail in the posts to which I (and others) have referred you in this thread and in the thread you started yesterday. This post alone, and the links inside it, explain everything you're asking: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

          Originally Posted by artse View Post

          I`m a bit confused because i thought that HubPages and Squidoo are NOT Article Directories
          You're correct. They're Web 2.0 sites, not article directories.

          They have no intrinsic connection with article marketing at all. It's possible, however (but in my view very inadvisable and completely unnecessary) to try to use them as "article submission sites", but not using articles already published and indexed on your own site. They offer an article marketer no benefits that s/he can't more easily, more safely and more productively get elsewhere. There are, it's true, some people who have used them way and made some money from it, but it's also true that they could more safely, more easily and more productively have done that without them (but they typically don't appreciate that).
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          Originally Posted by artse View Post

          Alexa,

          I`m a new warrior , but i think that my questions will light up the other new warriors.

          What are the best common Article websites these days? ( NOT DIRECTORIES )
          Artse, you don't want "common article websites" for marketing to a specific niche. You want sites that are relevant to that niche which will republish outside content.

          Originally Posted by artse View Post

          I want to choose for example to promote gaming products from clickbank , what are the main ARTICLE Websites to do this , and do i search specific gaming article websites to promote my gaming products?
          Even though you want to promote gaming products, you have to add a layer in between the syndicated article and the promotion. What you really want to promote on outside sites is you - in whatever persona or pen name you might choose to use - not a product.

          Most legitimate publishers aren't interested in publishing glorified ads for affiliate products - they are interested in content that will entertain, amuse, educate or advance their readers. Doing anything else diminishes them and, if taken to extreme, turns them from 'trusted source' to shill.

          What I've found to be very effective over the years is to send people to a landing page where they get the opportunity to extend the experience you just gave them. Most of the time, this is going to be an informative page with a very prominent opt-in.

          As for the "main sites", you'll have to dig those up on your own.

          Originally Posted by artse View Post

          I`m a bit confused because i thought that HubPages and Squidoo are NOT Article Directories are they Article Marketing Websites or Article Directories?

          Thanks so much
          HubPages and Squidoo are neither article directories or "article marketing websites" - they are set up to be somewhat self-contained communities or groups of communities. People brought together to share a common interest. It just so happens that you can do that and make money at the same time.

          You can use them to advance your promotional interests by not promoting directly. Use them to get the people already there to trust you and your knowledge, then send them to a landing page where they have the opportunity to join your list and get more of what you give them 'straight from the horse's mouth'.

          Just be very transparent about some of the recommendations you make coming with price tags, and that if someone buys, you get a cut of the action. Don't make a big deal out of it, but don't try to hide it, either.

          If you read some of the list building threads, you'll find a common complaint. 'I give and give and give all this great free stuff, but the first time I ask them to buy something, they get mad and unsubscribe/complain/say mean things about me.' That's a result of positioning yourself as a buddy.

          Think about it. What if your dear old granny offered to let you have all the cherished secret family recipes after showing you a few of them. You're all excited, but granny says, "wait a second, I'll give you the recipes but you have to pay me $27 first."

          Sorry about taking off like that. Once I get started talking about this stuff, it's hard to stop...
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  • Profile picture of the author rayrayjetson
    Article marketing is a really good way of promoting clickbank products. It may take some time to c results but at the end its all worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author donnaka1
    Suggestion: you can write good articles (and I mean GOOD ) then you contact marketers and go somt'n like "hey dude, I got good material that you can give away to your subscribers, it's good solid info not a pitch fest or anything" of course at the end you have a link to your page where you promote the CB product.
    One other work-around to this is to search blogs (the bigger the better) and ask if they accept quest posting. Same speech, same trick.
    Hope it helps. It should!
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    Thanks alexa you helped me so mutch
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  • Profile picture of the author yougpeter
    Article marketing like link building is great.But for selling any affiliate product now days it is harder.Sometimes some product sales come in but that is no regular.
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  • The good thing about these Google updates is apparently they tend to penalize those who just spam spun articles in the hopes of backlinks while the ones with actual decent (and relevant) content gets syndicated through relevant authority sites.

    As article marketers, we should actually be glad that article directories are getting less 'search engine authority' because we want our front end customers coming to our own sites (which should be the focus of our SEO efforts) and make IT the authority site - whereas the people who go to directories are the ones that look for content they can republish (meaning they already have an audience, they just need the content).

    I actually have a partner who is not very good at article writing (and not very good at English for that matter) who has a growing fan base within my niche. This person takes my content and republishes it on their site which brings traffic back to my blog. And yes, its the same article that was indexed, not a re-written, spun version of it. In turn, they get to add value to their list without writing their own articles while they bring some traffic to my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author markhere
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the reason most people say article marketing is dead is from the SEO point of view, because in order to gain backlinks most people spin the articles and submit them to 1000's of directories. So links from these spun low quality directories have devalued over the years.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamk
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    It is definitely good for clickbank. Article Marketing is one of the best way to get qualified traffic. It always was and always will be.
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