What's the problem with a domain hosted at Free Weebly or Blogger?

by bwh1
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EDIT: it should say ....MY DOMAIN hosted at...

I guess you know that you can point your domains, purchased at any broker, to Weebly or Blogger.

They will host your site for free.

YES - it's ww.yourdomain.com and not

yourdomain.blogspot.com

so no subdomains.

But, what's exactly the downturn with this? Is that a bad thing SEO wise or why not more people recommend this for newbies with a tight budget for that they can try out the waters?

I never did this so don't have any experience. When I stared out nobody told me this is possible, but maybe a few newbies would like to use this to host for free when they start out with their first site.

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  • Profile picture of the author ReplenishSEO
    Never even knew that you could get a domain hosted for free.

    Thanks I'm going to look into this more.

    Interested too on any seo pitfalls or benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author jjerryr3
    I tested the free blogger for my squeeze pages.I found they did not convert well because they did not look very professional.I moved over to a new squeeze page developer and have made huge improvements in my conversions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Originally Posted by bwh1 View Post

    I guess you know that you can point your domains, purchased at any broker, to Weebly or Blogger.

    They will host your site for free.

    YES - it's ww.yourdomain.com and not

    yourdomain.blogspot.com

    so no subdomains.

    But, what's exactly the downturn with this? Is that a bad thing SEO wise or why not more people recommend this for newbies with a tight budget for that they can try out the waters?

    I never did this so don't have any experience. When I stared out nobody told me this is possible, but maybe a few newbies would like to use this to host for free when they start out with their first site.

    G.
    There are actually lots of reasons why hosting with blogger is not a good option if you are planning to have a long-term website.

    1. you don't have full control of the domain
    2. You can't sell the site on it's right market value
    3. SEO limitations
    3. Design limitations
    4. and more I forgot to mention....
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      There are actually lots of reasons why hosting with blogger is not a good option if you are planning to have a long-term website.

      1. you don't have full control of the domain
      2. You can't sell the site on it's right market value
      3. SEO limitations
      3. Design limitations
      4. and more I forgot to mention....
      Actually I forgot to mention that I like the Weebly platform more then Blogger.

      But to some of your points...

      1. you don't have full control of the domain
      It's MY domain, so why I lose control? I can change nameservers in a second if I like too.

      2. You can't sell the site on it's right market value
      Again, only correct to some extend. If the site design (let's say you make it with Weebly) is OK for the client, you simply hand over the domain and the Weebly account to the new owner and you're done.

      Why should that be a problem? With Blogger it should be the same, just don't pack your account with multiple blogs in case you quote selling one.

      Heck there are Squidoo Lenses sold all the time, and you even don't owe the domain.

      3. SEO limitations
      WHUT???? One page SEO relies mostly on great content, so how you have limitations here? I agree again on the Blogger platform, but with Weebly you can make great multipage sites, no SEO problems unless you proof different.

      3. Design limitations
      I agree 100% for Blogger, about 50% to Weebly here.

      Keep in mind that this is some info aimed at NEWBIES which come in here with no ideas, no money and lot's of needs I guess it's OK to start out a site with a 10bucks investment in stead of a 10+8/month investment plus Autoresponder (you can get a form on a Weebly site, it's just not an autoresponder but can get you sub's like on a Blog - Broadcast ready).

      Am I on the same Internet here.....

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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    You will simply tend to make less money. Now, even though it's possible to succeed with free domains, you will most likely not.

    People won't take you seriously, plus the domain name is too long to remember.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
    Plainly put - It just doesn't look Professional
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

      Plainly put - It just doesn't look Professional
      Well....

      Weebly has some great designs which don't let you look like a fool IMO, and Blogger let you use a CUSTOM HTML template in case you don't like the default one.

      Blogger out of the box stink, I agree.

      I landed at a few Blogger blogs which didn't look anything at all like a Blogger blog.

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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    This might shock a few people here but I never have used wordpress yet. I have been building wix sites and lately they have been nailing google to the top of the ranks. Other threads have warned to stay away from wix but I dont see the big deal. Dont do wix if you are looking for adsense cash.

    I have used blogger for blogs because it was super easy to slap together. My blog looks cheap as ever but its all about my content which is a DIY blog. Another thing is its also super cheap. 10 bucks for your own .com for a year hosted on blogger.

    Blogger does not work good at all if you are trying to promote an offline business or tyring to make anything other than a blog, obviously.

    I never used weebly but I will check it out now.
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by momakmak View Post


      I never used weebly but I will check it out now.
      You will be surprised, I promise.

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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Hosting is $9.95 a auto-responder is $19.95 for the first 500 subscribers and a domain is $7.00 per year. If this were a brick and mortar business wouldn't you want to own your own business location if you could afford it? You can own it for really cheap online.
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      Hosting is $9.95 a auto-responder is $19.95 for the first 500 subscribers and a domain is $7.00 per year. If this were a brick and mortar business wouldn't you want to own your own business location if you could afford it? You can own it for really cheap online.
      James

      I do agree with you on that, I have all above and recommend it to anyone seriously interested into IM.

      But there are THOUSANDS of newbies who have zero experience with any IM related, and many times I have seen people who doesn't have the money to get those tools.

      While I spend a few hundred a month on WSO's, those people have problems to get the 20 bucks together to start with Hosting and a .com, even worse the burden to pay the next month $40 as the 20 for the AR will kick in.

      And they have NO CLUE if and HOW they are going to make even 1 dollar in commission (mostly they wont).

      So I like to give them an alternative, what will cost about $8 bucks a year to start out playing around with their own online business.

      -Their own .com (that's the only investment here)
      -Free hosting (can be changed any time, just change DNS forwarding) at Weebly, Blogger or Wix etc...
      -Free website at Weebly or similar (weebly has some real good templates, multipages and all the bells and whistles), Wix looks cool (Flash templates, played a bit but never used it)
      -free AR for the first 100 leads (Icontact free plan)

      So with such a "start up", they can get their feet wet with a minimal cost.

      My initial question to this was:

      Why nobody recommends this? Does that idea stink and if YES, Why and Where?

      IF they can manage to make their first sale/commission, they will start to believe in IM and most probably will skip to the "normal" plan.

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  • Profile picture of the author JerrickYeoh
    Ofcourse it help in SEO if your domain do come with keyword that you wish to target . It would be best to get a domain with .com extension or a country domain extension , it depend where you target.
    A professional website need a own domain and not subdomain which everyone knew it .
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by JerrickYeoh View Post

      Ofcourse it help in SEO if your domain do come with keyword that you wish to target . It would be best to get a domain with .com extension or a country domain extension , it depend where you target.
      A professional website need a own domain and not subdomain which everyone knew it .
      This IS using a .com, look at my post above.

      You buy a domain and forward DNS to the free host. It's not easy to recon that you use a free host unless with Blogger where you see it right away.

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  • Profile picture of the author Willie Crawford
    Those who know that you are using free hosting, may wonder
    why you are doing that. They often will consider that an indicator
    that you are struggling, and especially if you are teaching people
    how to build successful, professional-looking businesses, there
    is just a disconnect.

    It also indicates to some that you don't have enough confidence
    in your business to invest in "better", more professional hosting.

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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by Willie Crawford View Post

      Those who know that you are using free hosting, may wonder
      why you are doing that. They often will consider that an indicator
      that you are struggling, and especially if you are teaching people
      how to build successful, professional-looking businesses, there
      is just a disconnect.

      It also indicates to some that you don't have enough confidence
      in your business to invest in "better", more professional hosting.

      Willie
      Great to have you here Willie. What else can I ask for

      Your point is the first real flaw with that start up strategy, well thought and has to be mentioned to whom might think about using this.

      Will be a positioning/branding problem.

      Actually I would only see this for those total newbies who don't trust that "MMO" thingy at all. When they make the first commission selling stuff from Amazon or so they should immediately go and do it the right way.

      Many thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author David Cavanagh
    In my opinion:

    Weebly is a FAR BETTER option and I've tested in extensively!

    I've got multiple page 1 rankings from using Weebly, and the sites look great.

    At the end of the day, flash ain't cash, and you're not building an art gallery online.

    Having said that, it's "horses for courses" and you need to choose what's right for you.

    Hope that helps!

    David Cavanagh

    PS... Work out the pro package with Weebly, plus your domain name registration with Godaddy or Namecheap and it's a BRILLIANT offer if you work it out correctly!
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post

      In my opinion:

      Weebly is a FAR BETTER option and I've tested in extensively!

      I've got multiple page 1 rankings from using Weebly, and the sites look great.

      Hope that helps!

      David Cavanagh

      PS... Work out the pro package with Weebly, plus your domain name registration with Godaddy or Namecheap and it's a BRILLIANT offer if you work it out correctly!
      Hi David

      Thanks for chiming in with a testimonial that this works.

      As I mentioned, I never used this myself but the idea is to offer a viable "start up plan" for the new and broke IM's out there.

      A few years back I relied heavily on Squidoo and Hubpages (are they still in indexed in Google???), and did well. I fiddled a bit with Weebly at that time and liked it, just didn't got deeper as the other two ranked easier in Google back then.

      Guess you know what happened after that.

      After the Web 2.0 disaster I abandoned to work with free sites, still not knowing that I can use my own domain with them.

      Found that out a few month ago when I checked out Weebly because it's now integrated into my Hostmonster cPanel as website builder.

      Thanks again for your insights.

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  • Profile picture of the author JFrenty
    Originally Posted by bwh1 View Post


    But, what's exactly the downturn with this? Is that a bad thing SEO wise or why not more people recommend this for newbies with a tight budget for that they can try out the waters?
    G.
    You right, lack of control could be one reason. Plus if you pratice unethical methods of promotion or something is dodgy about the content, they may report you to the domain registrar and you may lose the domain. The chances of this to nhappen on your own server (even given the same practices) are much less, as there are no moderators checkeing your site like on social networks. Overall, the risk is higher I think.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Cavanagh
      Originally Posted by JFrenty View Post

      You right, lack of control could be one reason. Plus if you pratice unethical methods of promotion or something is dodgy about the content, they may report you to the domain registrar and you may lose the domain. The chances of this to nhappen on your own server (even given the same practices) are much less, as there are no moderators checkeing your site like on social networks. Overall, the risk is higher I think.
      JFrenty,

      If you practice unethical methods of promotion, you'll be banned no matter what, so I don't see the logic behind your comment!

      You deserve to be banned if you're doing this kind of online marketing (if you call it that).

      Stick to good quality marketing, ethical business standards and you'll be fine!

      Yours In Success and Nothing Less,

      David Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author rontheitguy
    I'm a Wordpress guy all the way but I can understand where someone just starting out will have cost restrictions. That said, a domain will run you under $10 and there's some pretty cheap hosting out there these days...$7/mo and less. So I have to ask the question that if using Wordpress (or some other platform for that matter) is the end result your after, why waste time learning how to use a free platform when you'll just need to learn another one later on?

    Above all, I guess the real answer here is to not put unnecessary roadblocks in your path! Just make it work how you can and move forward from there!
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by rontheitguy View Post

      I'm a Wordpress guy all the way but I can understand where someone just starting out will have cost restrictions. That said, a domain will run you under $10 and there's some pretty cheap hosting out there these days...$7/mo and less. So I have to ask the question that if using Wordpress (or some other platform for that matter) is the end result your after, why waste time learning how to use a free platform when you'll just need to learn another one later on?

      Above all, I guess the real answer here is to not put unnecessary roadblocks in your path! Just make it work how you can and move forward from there!
      Good point but there is actually not much you need to learn in case you use Weebly (I focus on this one, it's the best option out of the ones mentioned). It's basically drag&drop plus fill in the content and you're done.

      So you will not loose much time if you switch later to WP

      Also, you simply keep the free site the way it is. You shouldn't change that existing site/domain into a WP blog once it's indexed.

      I'm using WP for all my sites and like it, but there is still a world to learn which looks like a never ending story. And all those updates.... and new plugins which costing me money etc....

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  • Profile picture of the author rontheitguy
    I'm just so deep into Wordpress I suppose I'm a bit biased about it and can't see the need for another option. But, like I said, it's best to eliminate roadblocks, not create them. If Wordpress is a roadblock in any way, go elsewhere I say!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Cavanagh
    Ron,

    I know Wordpress backwards, and I tour the World teaching it at the largest internet marketing seminars, events and workshops (been featured speaker at World Internet Summit, 7 Figure Code, Money Masters, Global Internet Masters and many more).

    I'm not saying WP is bad, because it's brilliant, but Weebly has now come out as one of the best wysiwyg platforms there is on the market. For newbies starting out, it's FAR EASIER than Wordpress.

    I can show you how WP can be EASILY hacked, broken into, pulled off the server and it creates nightmares for people each and every day - even your actual site is open to being hacked and you're still displaying the readme.html page on your site.

    I have to put my personal feelings and love of Wordpress to the side, and tell you that Weebly is a great platform now - it used to be very basic, but it's got so much added into it and the cost is FAR LESS if you add the pro account and domain registration (registration done with NameCheap or GoDaddy).

    Weebly: $72 for 10 sites for 2 years (including unlimited hosting with 100 meg maximum uploads per upload).

    Work that out: $3.60 per year per domain with Weebly and $9 to register the domain name. Less than $13 a year to have an incredible site, full hosting and wysiwyg editor that's also mobile friendly and can be zipped up and downloaded at any stage to FTP to another hosting company if the need be.

    Just me 20 cents worth

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    • Profile picture of the author rontheitguy
      David, I appreciate your input.

      I've been hacked once years ago on a Joomla install I had because of a weak password (at least that's what I recall the hosting company told me at the time). Since then, I've used strong passwords. One security risk fixed.

      I realize that a password alone isn't the end all, nor can all the security available guarantee 100% protection (my opinion...there's always some genius who'll find the hole) which is why I run automated daily backups on all of my sites. So if one day a hacker comes along and deletes it all, I can be back up and running in a matter of a few minutes. So it's just not much of a worry to me I guess. (I'll plug my intense recommendation here that EVERYONE should back up anything important when it comes to computers!)

      As far as price goes, I have my own reseller hosting that I've used for years now, so I don't pay for hosting anymore, my clients cover the bill. So for me it's cheaper than what you say Weebly would cost. I also like to build all my own custom themes, so Wordpress just works for me.

      I'm not arguing that Wordpress is the the best solution, just saying it's the best solution for me. If Weebly (or any other platform for that matter) is better for you or someone else, I'm fine with that...just not one I'll probably ever use.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    What's the problem with a domain hosted at Free Weebly or Blogger?

    In a nutshell - you don't own that domain!!!
    This really isn't right at all, Alyona.

    Sorry, but you've rather missed the point, here. It's not about ownership of the domain. The OP is asking about hosting a site on a domain which he owns at Weebly or Blogger, as thousands of people do.

    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    I really suggest you invest $20 and get your own .com domain!
    You can do that (and for a lot less than $20, by the way) but you'll still have the same problem.
    This isn't about the domain: it's about the terms of service of the hosting.

    You can own your own domain-name, registered elsewhere (e.g. Namecheap, or wherever) and still host a website on it at Blogger or Weebly, just as you can host it at Hostgator or Justhost or wherever.

    I have sites hosted at Weebly (I use the paid upgrade, not the free hosting, but you can do this on the free hosting, too) which are now in their fourth successful year. Weebly is an excellent host.

    Using Blogger, though, makes absolutely no sense at all. You can see why from all the threads like this one.

    It's not the fact that Blogger is free that's the problem, though. Yola and Blinkweb and 000WebHost and Byethost and Weebly are all free, too, but none of them has the same problems and drawbacks that Blogger (and Squidoo and HubPages) have.

    This has nothing to do with who owns the domain. Hosting at Blogger is hosting at Blogger, and being subject to their terms of service, whether you own the domain-name yourself or use one of their subdomains. It makes no difference at all to the relevant parts of their terms of service.

    A careful read of this one thread is really all you need, to see why Blogger's so unsuitable: Squidoo/Blogger as primary website

    But if you want more, these posts/threads may also help ("Blogger", "HubPages" and "Squidoo" are all the same in this regard - they're all unsafe and owned by someone else who changes the rules frequently and interprets them idiosyncratically and inconsistently and is in control of "your" site, which you can never own!) ... but that has nothing to do with ownership of the domain, as mistakenly suggested above.

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  • Profile picture of the author prithvitheprime
    Yow will not be getting the full control of what your are doing that is basic difference. One more thing is you can't do anything if your weebly or blogger got hacked or crashed even if your having a back up with yourself it is not easy to restore.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by prithvitheprime View Post

      Yow will not be getting the full control of what your are doing that is basic difference.
      This is simply not so, Prithvitheprime: sorry, but it's just wrong.

      What you're saying is true of Blogger, but it isn't true of Weebly.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Cavanagh
    Prithvitheprime,

    Sorry to be straight forward here, but you don't know Weebly!

    You have got full control of your content at all times, a download of the entire site is available 24/7 with the click of a mouse button (which downloads the whole site in a zip file) which can be FTP'ed to a brand new server within a minute or two.

    How is that not easy to restore?

    David Cavanagh

    PS... The discussion of this thread is about a domain that is owned! We're not talking about a free sub domain running off Weebly or Blogger (Blogspot), so it's always easy to move, redirect, change name servers, forward etc. You've got control like any other host!
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  • Profile picture of the author AppsFromHome
    I have sites on WordPress and a bunch on Weebly simply because it's easy for myself and other workers to edit quickly.

    That being said, the SEO is not a problem for me and I have several Weebly hosted sites (with my own domain name) that are ranking on the first page of Google with many above PR2 after a short period of time....and for the price point you can't beat it.
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  • Profile picture of the author drumguru69
    I prefer to have complete control over all the aspects of my websites... especially design and layout. These free services limit the control...

    And you get out of it.. what you put into it... (People that are generally trying to find the simplest, cheapest, and easiest way to do things, often find less success....(just from my experience))
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  • Profile picture of the author David Cavanagh
    DrumGuru69,

    Again, you don't know the new look Weebly either!

    You guys are commenting from the space of not knowing Weebly now.

    Blogger is not easy... agreed... but Weebly is a different kettle of fish!

    And please believe me, I was against the Weebly of old, but not now.

    (Plus I've taught more students, and got more results than 99% of all Warriors)

    David Cavanagh
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    • Profile picture of the author drumguru69
      Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post

      DrumGuru69,

      Again, you don't know the new look Weebly either!

      You guys are commenting from the space of not knowing Weebly now.

      Blogger is not easy... agreed... but Weebly is a different kettle of fish!

      And please believe me, I was against the Weebly of old, but not now.

      (Plus I've taught more students, and got more results than 99% of all Warriors)

      David Cavanagh
      I will take a look at the new platform.... Don't you have to pay if your site is over 14 pages? Isn't this a "limit" on the control you have... you can get a hosting account with enough space to create multiple sites with hundreds of pages for less money that a 15 page weebly. It is also only 500MB then you have to pay more....
      This still does not sound like a great deal to me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ewan Lumsden
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    These companies can also shut down your website for no apparant reason. It's always safer to host your sites on HostGator etc so you have complete control. I never feel completely safe when hosting on Blogger etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author sriram rajan
    Hey , Can we even do that !! thats awesome .

    Only thing that will stop me from using the free hosting, is a possibility of support issue. If your site goes down due to your hosting just when you are all set with content and other good hard work put in then can we expect support like If it was say hostgator or something similar , you bet not as they dont make money and they cannot afford to loose more by providing FREE suppport. While understand the point about newbies it makes a good business sense to invest the $5 per month and get it hosted in a place where they can sleep well at night :-) and build their business ..

    But as always it is good to know we can even do this and can use it for some test projects until a point where you feel you can turn it to a money making web real estate , then immediately switch over .
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  • Profile picture of the author rightseosteps
    When hosting with them you will get a subdomain rather then an actual domain. You are limited with bandwidth on the site meaning you will have a very small percentage of visitors each day, once the max has been reached your site no longer loads. If done right you can still make money but very little when it comes to affiliate marketing and such. They are best to link to an actual site as most web 2.0 sites are good for, best way to get one way links.
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by rightseosteps View Post

      When hosting with them you will get a subdomain rather then an actual domain. You are limited with bandwidth on the site meaning you will have a very small percentage of visitors each day, once the max has been reached your site no longer loads. If done right you can still make money but very little when it comes to affiliate marketing and such. They are best to link to an actual site as most web 2.0 sites are good for, best way to get one way links.
      Jesus, do you guy's read the posts in this thread at all????

      This is NOT about creating a subdomain at one of above hosts.

      It's about registering your OWN DOMAIN .com or .org/net .info or whatsoever, just like you always do, but then..... in case you do NOT owe a $8/month shared hosting account - you point that domain to Weebly (or others).

      So the DOMAIN is YOURS, only the platform and hosting is at Weebly.

      They have a PRO version which gives you even more features, but you can do that also for free with some limitations.

      After some valuable feedback from great warriors which do have used this, I definitely feel fine to recommend this to my newbie leads.

      Thanks Alexa, David, SDotPells and others.

      G.
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      • Profile picture of the author dalegolden
        Originally Posted by bwh1 View Post

        It's about registering your OWN DOMAIN .com or .org/net .info or whatsoever, just like you always do, but then..... in case you do NOT owe a $8/month shared hosting account - you point that domain to Weebly (or others).

        So the DOMAIN is YOURS, only the platform and hosting is at Weebly.

        They have a PRO version which gives you even more features, but you can do that also for free with some limitations.

        After some valuable feedback from great warriors which do have used this, I definitely feel fine to recommend this to my newbie leads.

        Thanks Alexa, David, SDotPells and others.

        G.
        Yes. You can go for weebly without any hesitation. There are many limitations in every free services around the web. In this case, the limitations of your free weebly hosting will help you to learn a lot. I have seen innumerable sites who are ranking well using free hosting web 2.0 platforms like weebly, webs, blogger etc. Best of luck for you too.
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesbim
    I'm sure there some SEO experts here but I would think there would be some slight disadvantages when using Weebly vs. a Wordpress site. I think it really depends on your purpose...if you're promoting an affiliate site or some CPA offers Weebly could be good enough to do the trick. Whereas if you require a more professional, finished look, clearly Wordpress is a better choice. With the ever evolvng changes in SEO, it's debatable which one platform works better..this is a interesting piece
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