Writers: If You Think You're Good Enough, Charge What You're Worth

by stong
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I've never truly believed in this, until it was proven to me very, very recently.

Here's what happened, in chronological order:

24 Hours Ago: I officially launched my freelance writing service by marketing myself, sending out introductory e-mails to anyone and everyone that seemed like they needed writers.

22 Hours Ago: Thirty e-mails sent. The first person replies and asks about my rates. He doesn't reply after that. Still kept going.

20 Hours Ago: Fifty e-mails sent. Take a little break, stretch my back.

19 1/2 Hours Ago: Someone else asks about my work process and rates. We exchange e-mails in quick succession.

18 1/2 Hours Ago: I received my first project, and the payment upfront.

The amount I received?

$40 for a 400 word article.

I'm sharing this because I know how it feels to be a down-and-out Warrior, looking at the party going on while shivering in the cold outside.

Sometimes the $5 writers make it seem like that's as good as it gets, and it's made me hesitate more than once about my own pricing. Are my rates too high? Are they too low? On and on and on.

To be honest, I was still thinking about it when I started sending the e-mails. Then I got sick of it. If anyone challenges me about my rates, I reasoned, I'll just scrub them off the list.

And now look what's happened.

My point is - if you think you've got it, don't sell yourself short. Because someone out there is willing to buy from you.

Hope it helps.

Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by stong View Post

    My point is - if you think you've got it, don't sell yourself short. Because someone out there is willing to buy from you.

    Simon
    Simon, CONGRATS. Here's to many more - at much higher prices!

    You make a GREAT point.

    I just got an order for a $450 article.

    Am I just a "good" writer - or a "confident" one?

    All success
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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      After posting this, I thought it might sound to some as if I'm
      trying to boast.

      No. I'm trying to INSPIRE writers to think BIG.

      Years ago, when I was middling along and had my first big day,
      some amazing Warriors - notable among them Jack Humphrey and
      Big Mike - did more than just congratulate me... they egged me
      to go higher.

      The figure they mentioned was mind-boggling at that time.

      In less than 6 weeks from the day, believe it or not, I hit
      that "exaggerated" mark - and credit Warriors for stretching
      my mind far beyond what would have been its "natural limits".

      I'm doing that for you, Simon - and other writers on this forum.

      I'm NOT a better writer than most of you... just more confident
      and skilled in showcasing the value I bring to my clients.

      That's a skill anyone can learn.

      Go!

      All success
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by drmani View Post

        I'm NOT a better writer than most of you...
        *Discretely raises prices*
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Congratulations Simon!

          You have achieved what many writers only dream of.

          I commend you for your belief in yourself, your drive, taking action and your tenaciousness. This is where many writers fail, unfortunately.

          One of my very first writing jobs was a $3500 50 page specialty eBook and I have never looked back. I encourage you to stick to your guns in knowing your worth.

          The well paying jobs are out there, but without a positive mindset such as yours, unfortunately, many will never find them.

          Here's to many more success stories for you!

          Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author drmani
          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          *Discretely raises prices*
          Yep... always keep it discreet ;-)

          btw, this is a nice one!

          Keeping ‘discreet’ and ‘discrete’ discreetly discrete



          All success
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          P.S. - @Andy Henry - GREAT great post. Thanks!
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          • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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            Originally Posted by drmani View Post

            Yep... always keep it discreet ;-)

            btw, this is a nice one!

            Keeping 'discreet' and 'discrete' discreetly discrete



            All success
            Dr.Mani
            ...Seems like a good time to harp the "no writer is perfect" line and save face! .

            That one always gets me, it's my "there, they're, their" lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by drmani View Post

        After posting this, I thought it might sound to some as if I'm
        trying to boast.

        No. I'm trying to INSPIRE writers to think BIG.
        Hey Mani,

        Don't worry - If you didn't post it I would have.

        I know the OP is just starting out and saying to others that $40 is a lot, but as some of us know and have said MANY times before - There are people who will happily pay a LOT more because they value good content a lot more.

        Many people in IM have never run a business or been involved in the content needs of businesses and don't realise what people outside the IM arena need and pay for great content, so it's not that surprising if they just start out and only see the low end of the market and don't realise what others are able to charge.

        The problem with making the conversation about money is that for many people starting out they don't actually know where to find high paying clients, so the only people they can get interested in their work are people with limited budgets that can't pay high prices.

        The IM niche is especially good at devalueing such things because it's mostly made up of struggling people looking for things as cheap as possible because they know they won't be able to turn that content into revenue.

        I've been paid thousands of dollars for articles in the past, so I urge any good writers not to blind themselves to opportunities, but also not be so money focused that they don't help the small guys with small budgets, it's often helping people with small budgets that opens the door to bigger budgets - relationships help your value a lot. People will pay more to someone they can trust to get the job done.

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        • Profile picture of the author Miss Bee
          Thanks for starting this awesome thread Simon. Kudos to you for having so much self confidence. You are clearly very competent in your field and good at marketing too.

          I've recently reached a point where I have realised that a writer can only create a finite amount of content while maintaining quality. You're charging about twice the amount that I do.

          This is inspiring stuff indeed!

          I really need to spend a day working on my own blog posts so I can begin marketing myself again.
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Andy, you bring up an excellent point in helping others and the enormous impact positive word of mouth referrals are.

            The first two years of my writing career, all of the work obtained was by those two methods alone and I probably would have continued in that just that vein if one of my loyal clients hadn't nearly twisted my arm off to begin marketing myself.

            A pretty fair amount of my clients are still those that came to me by those personal referrals.

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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Well done Simon - congratulations. I hope Warriors will act upon your advice, because some of the posts here suggesting people charge $1 or $2 per 100 words really distress me.

      Remember, writing the article is only half the battle - it's how the finished product is used that often makes it priceless..

      $1 for 100 words may represent a good income for 'writers' for whom English is a second language, but no-one in an English speaking country should set their aspirations so low. Much also depends upon your own perceived self worth.

      The problem has evolved from 'SEO Writing' - garbage thrown together for the search engines, not human readers, and unfortunately the price for this level of work is, for the most part, what you see quoted.

      Over the years I've accumulated a core group of clients who are happy to pay me $200 - $250 per article ( I call it content ). Because of their continuing repeat business I see them as almost residual income, and while writing for them, I'm also able to devote a decent amount of time to a few money making blogs and my own personal blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author schttrj
      Originally Posted by stong View Post

      I've never truly believed in this, until it was proven to me very, very recently.

      Here's what happened, in chronological order:

      24 Hours Ago: I officially launched my freelance writing service by marketing myself, sending out introductory e-mails to anyone and everyone that seemed like they needed writers.

      22 Hours Ago: Thirty e-mails sent. The first person replies and asks about my rates. He doesn't reply after that. Still kept going.

      20 Hours Ago: Fifty e-mails sent. Take a little break, stretch my back.

      19 1/2 Hours Ago: Someone else asks about my work process and rates. We exchange e-mails in quick succession.

      18 1/2 Hours Ago: I received my first project, and the payment upfront.

      The amount I received?

      $40 for a 400 word article.

      I'm sharing this because I know how it feels to be a down-and-out Warrior, looking at the party going on while shivering in the cold outside.

      Sometimes the $5 writers make it seem like that's as good as it gets, and it's made me hesitate more than once about my own pricing. Are my rates too high? Are they too low? On and on and on.

      To be honest, I was still thinking about it when I started sending the e-mails. Then I got sick of it. If anyone challenges me about my rates, I reasoned, I'll just scrub them off the list.

      And now look what's happened.

      My point is - if you think you've got it, don't sell yourself short. Because someone out there is willing to buy from you.

      Hope it helps.

      Simon
      You set an example for the others. Congrats and keep it up!

      Originally Posted by drmani View Post

      Simon, CONGRATS. Here's to many more - at much higher prices!

      You make a GREAT point.

      I just got an order for a $450 article.

      Am I just a "good" writer - or a "confident" one?

      All success
      Dr.Mani
      ...Perhaps a "lucky" one? Just kidding!
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  • Profile picture of the author Seatbelt99
    Congratulations!

    The important thing to remember is that there is a market for these high quality articles. That's the market you (and I) target. There have been lots of times when I send someone a quote for an article (my prices are similar to yours) and they laugh at me saying I'll never find someone to buy at that rate. I just smile and move on.

    I've even had other writers PM me saying I'll never get the rates I ask for (Typically between $.08-$.12 but sometimes more depending on the project). I almost pity them. I've got a number of clients at this range who are more than happy to pay it because they actually understand the value of good content.

    Honestly though, I don't think most writers will ever understand this. They read threads like this and do one of two things...
    #1: Assume your lying to try to get clients.
    #2: Believe they are not good enough to charge those rates (and some of them might be right).

    Anyway, enough rambling for me. Congratulations sir and my best wishes for your continued success.

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Buboo
    I have membership site, and I am convinced that content is worth paying for, so far no one did.

    It seems that most buyesrs are not able to distinguish between quality content and one that is not.
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  • Well done! Now, all you have to do is move that decimal place another space and charge $1 per word.

    Sincerely,

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  • Profile picture of the author stong
    Thanks everyone.

    I have no doubt that there are much higher price ranges than $40, and I will get to those places soon... after I pad out my testimonials page.

    To be honest, this flash of success is due in part to most of you that have posted in this thread. As of now, I have six tabs on my browser showing threads exclusively discussing the topic of freelance writing. Each of them is laden with valuable information that I've been pouring over for the last few weeks, extracting every last detail to compose my own working process.

    At the risk of sounding corny, all of this wouldn't have been possible without everyone here. And at the risk of sounding even more corny, you guys are my heroes.

    Okay, enough weeping tears of joy.

    Anyway, this thread is really about encouraging my peers to start being proud of their work enough to charge what they're really worth. It's one thing to type out words and consider it job done, but it's quite another to really put yourself into your writing, I think. And that's why the latter deserves a higher pay grade.

    Originally Posted by Miss Bee View Post

    I've recently reached a point where I have realised that a writer can only create a finite amount of content while maintaining quality. You're charging about twice the amount that I do.
    This is actually something I've been thinking a lot about recently, and I've come to the conclusion that if I start mass producing articles, I'll start sounding like a robot. It makes me cringe to read them, so I really don't want to do that if I can help it.

    The only other alternative is to take as much time as I need to craft an amazing piece that I'll be proud of, and just use that resulting quality to justify the higher costs. Win-win.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
      Originally Posted by stong View Post

      To be honest, this flash of success is due in part to most of you that have posted in this thread. As of now, I have six tabs on my browser showing threads exclusively discussing the topic of freelance writing. Each of them is laden with valuable information that I've been pouring over for the last few weeks, extracting every last detail to compose my own working process.
      Tong...this is an awesome thread for people like me. I already have a successful "articles" biz, but I've had a few great Warriors encouraging me lately to take it to the next level. Posts like yours and words like theirs let me know, with no doubt, that it's possible to do.

      So...I quoted the part I did for one reason: How about you pull an Alexa and throw out a post with a bunch of links to your favorite threads in it?

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      • Profile picture of the author stong
        Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

        So...I quoted the part I did for one reason: How about you pull an Alexa and throw out a post with a bunch of links to your favorite threads in it?

        -- j

        'Course! Here's what I've been looking at for a while now:

        For starters, this post by Dr. Mani was what started the gears turning in my head. I've checked the link, and it still works (Thank you!):
        A Report On Positioning

        I emulated my client-searching process from this post by John Coutts, almost down to the letter. I knew I could get clients in this way because much like an affiliate site's conversion rate, it just depends on the number of people you manage to reach. Someone, somewhere will undoubtedly want what you have to offer:
        Perspectives on Pricing and Prospecting

        This little blueprint to kickstart the freelancing business by Marianne Gonne was instrumental, and is probably the post I've referred to the most. :p
        How To Start Freelance Writing

        Another one by Marianne, this time about 'selling' yourself to potential clients. In my opinion, it's really no different than selling info-products or Amazon stuff; you need to keep telling them about how you can help.
        On Prospecting

        And finally, two threads that serve as encouragement. Populated with posts written by people who've seen the greener grass. Sometimes it's reassuring to go back and have a quick read just to let yourself know that this whole thing can actually work:
        How do I get higher-paying content writing clients?

        If You Earn $50 And Above Per Article Written As A Content Writer, Come In!


        Also, I fully recommend checking out the Well-Fed Writer. He works primarily with offline businesses, but his methods are sound and highly adaptable to the online arena. Also, the mental pictures he paints are simply awe-inspiring.

        Hope everyone finds this useful!
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        • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
          Originally Posted by stong View Post

          'Course! Here's what I've been looking at for a while now:

          For starters, this post by Dr. Mani was what started the gears turning in my head. I've checked the link, and it still works (Thank you!):
          A Report On Positioning

          I emulated my client-searching process from this post by John Coutts, almost down to the letter. I knew I could get clients in this way because much like an affiliate site's conversion rate, it just depends on the number of people you manage to reach. Someone, somewhere will undoubtedly want what you have to offer:
          Perspectives on Pricing and Prospecting

          This little blueprint to kickstart the freelancing business by Marianne Gonne was instrumental, and is probably the post I've referred to the most. :p
          How To Start Freelance Writing

          Another one by Marianne, this time about 'selling' yourself to potential clients. In my opinion, it's really no different than selling info-products or Amazon stuff; you need to keep telling them about how you can help.
          On Prospecting

          And finally, two threads that serve as encouragement. Populated with posts written by people who've seen the greener grass. Sometimes it's reassuring to go back and have a quick read just to let yourself know that this whole thing can actually work:
          How do I get higher-paying content writing clients?

          If You Earn $50 And Above Per Article Written As A Content Writer, Come In!


          Also, I fully recommend checking out the Well-Fed Writer. He works primarily with offline businesses, but his methods are sound and highly adaptable to the online arena. Also, the mental pictures he paints are simply awe-inspiring.

          Hope everyone finds this useful!

          I think it needs to be pointed out that the OP didn't just willy-nilly toss out a price and hope to get business....

          He treats his business as a business. He did his research and built a solid foundation.

          Having the skills and knowing what you are worth are only half the battle. Marketing yourself is where many fall short.

          Congrats!
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    • Profile picture of the author Miss Bee
      Originally Posted by stong View Post



      This is actually something I've been thinking a lot about recently, and I've come to the conclusion that if I start mass producing articles, I'll start sounding like a robot. It makes me cringe to read them, so I really don't want to do that if I can help it.

      The only other alternative is to take as much time as I need to craft an amazing piece that I'll be proud of, and just use that resulting quality to justify the higher costs. Win-win.
      You're right. This is the approach I'm taking too (although not earning as much as you). It's tempting to try and speed up to earn more though. I don't know about you, but I am not a particularly fast writer. Research is also important as you have to have something interesting to say.

      Now I just need to plan out a strategy for taking it to the next level.

      Well, you've encouraged me
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  • Profile picture of the author AmeliaChampion
    I think the biggest selling point for writers is to put together a strong sample pack and to collect some testimonials from satisfied customers. It's important to get a website up that looks professional and gives you some credibility.

    But people do seem to want to pay virtually nothing for good work these days. So it can be a challenge.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by AmeliaChampion View Post

      But people do seem to want to pay virtually nothing for good work these days. So it can be a challenge.
      Amelia, most of the really successful business people I know are almost schizophrenic when it comes to buying things for their business.

      When it comes to commodities, they'll work hard to get the very best deal they can, looking for both price and service concessions. That doesn't necessarily translate into the lowest absolute price, but it does mean they pay as little as possible for things that fill those needs.

      When it comes to other things, like hiring specialists, they look for results first and price second. It's all about the return on investment.

      Those are the kind of people you need to look for, not the bottom feeders (who bottom feed out of either necessity or misconception).
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    This was a great thread, and I am glad that you all shared.

    I am finding that what you are saying is true.

    Some of this has to do with focus, also. one does have to commit to be a writer and to respect it as a business/profession. You are all probably talented at a great many things. but if you are going to network as a writer, market yourself to be a writer..it does take focus. That means that sometimes you give up some of the things that you can/could do, to do the thing that brings the most 'pop' for your effort.

    Congrats on your success, Dr. Mani and Simon.

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  • Profile picture of the author joefizz
    Stong...you star! well done...

    For those who diss, remember this quote by Earl Nightingale:

    "You become what you think about"

    Voila!

    Llwyddiant!

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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    Good advice.

    Currently writing up my introductory email. Any advice on this?
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Marianne Gonne View Post

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      There you have it. This works, I promise. Remember, it's a numbers game. As evidenced by our intrepid OP, stong, you need to keep going. The more targeted your prospects, the greater your chances.

      If you're a good writer with a professional writer's website (including samples + testimonials) to back up your email, you can – with this method – start charging $50 for 500 words, minimum.
      I agree Marianne and I'm going to start referring fledgling writers that ask me for advice to this thread as stong/Simon is a perfect example of what it takes to begin making what your writing is worth.

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      • Profile picture of the author JEasy
        Awesome thread and thanks to all of you...I'd personally do back flips if I was getting $40 an article.

        It's time for me to reconsider what I'm doing.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          I once heard Dan Kennedy talk about getting what you are worth. He said that he only needed two things early in his career - a set of solid brass balls.

          He mentioned a price he was thinking about to a colleague, who advised him to double it. Kennedy protested that he couldn't ask that much with a straight face. He was advised to practice saying it in front of a mirror until he could do it with confidence. Dan said it took him hours before he could quote a price that was double what he thought was too high already.

          The first time he tried his new price in a live situation with a potential client, the client simply said 'Okay, I'll have my assistant cut you a check before you leave' and went on to start talking about the project.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Wright
    Good job, Simon. So much of what we do comes down to mindset and how we perceive the value that we bring to the marketplace. When you do good work, people (at least SMART people) are willing to pay a higher premium. Good writers are well worth paying for.

    Keep up the great work. Thanks for sharing your experience.

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  • Profile picture of the author Cee
    Thanks for this inspiring post! LOVE the success stories. Keep 'em coming.

    You need a good dose of self-esteem to feel comfortable charging what you're worth. So mind-set plays a big part in success of all kinds. It's not so much what clients are willing to pay you, but what you are willing to pay yourself.

    I agree, Dr. Mani's report is a great read and I have it saved on my computer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    Marianne, I read your report and it was well done on the subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author stong
    Marianne, thanks so much for the valuable lesson!

    It's one of those things that nobody ever really talks about, but eventually prove to be the missing link in the whole system. Because how else could you get more clients if you fail to impress yourself upon them in the first place?

    I'll definitely be taking notes on this one; I've fallen to the same trap of sending generic e-mails myself, so there's definitely room for improvement. Once again, thank you so much for the tip.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Simon & Marianne, you have both just jumped into my personal "collection of geniuses." It's threads like this one, that are becoming more and more rare here on the WF, that keep me coming back and reading every day just to see what I can find. One of you (or both of you) should put this into a PDF and submit it to the War Room.

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  • Profile picture of the author danr62
    Thanks for sharing your story and all of these great tips.

    It burns me up to see so many people stuck at the $5 for 500 words range simply because they believe that is the standard rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheWrightWords
      That is so awesome, good for you! I have found that buyers that are willing to spend more money for good writing are better buyers--the biggest problem clients are those with lots of demands and small (insultingly small!) budgets

      There is plenty of work to be found in the $30-50 area, and it is a great place to start, congrats!
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  • Profile picture of the author Krisz Rokk
    Simon, Marianne - thanks for sharing! You guys are fantastic.
    If you provide high-quality and share your valuable expertise than charge for it correspondigly.

    And if you decide to pay $5 and get a $5 quality article, stop whining

    Congrats!
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  • Profile picture of the author cssbros
    Perfect for all,

    I love the quote.

    If You Think You're Good Enough, Charge What You're Worth.

    Awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author stong
    Completely true. The first time the question about pricing was asked, I had to consider every word in my reply, just to make sure I didn't come off as desperate and/or insecure.

    This actually segues perfectly to a question I've been wanting to ask:

    Customers demanding to know your rates. I know it's been said over and over to give a flat price quote whenever the topic of pricing comes up in negotiations, but one of the first questions I usually get from a prospective client is, 'What are your rates'?

    Ideally, I'd very much like to know more about the project itself before I set a price, so what I've done was to explain that every assignment is unique, and the costs will reflect on that.

    However, I do hate to leave questions unanswered, so I left a 'buuuut as an estimate, I'd say this-and-this sounds about right'.

    I really feel that this is a loose knot that could be tightened up a bit more. Any opinions on this? Is it okay to give your rates when asked or do your best to mask it? Does it even matter?

    Oh, and just in case context matters, I've lately been contacting SEO companies. Not sure if there's a connection, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author DianeVukovic
      Originally Posted by Marianne Gonne View Post

      This is a standard tactic amongst established freelancers - the theory being, you need to work out your hourly rate, assess each individual project and charge accordingly.

      It's also a positioning tactic. Price yourself too low, and you back yourself into a perceived corner that's difficult to get out of.

      It should be fairly easy to establish your rates, based on how long you know it takes you to write 500/1000 words and the level of service you're offering (standard, syndication-worthy, etc.).
      When I first got started writing for internet marketing, my rates were ridiculously low (I live in a poorer country so I could get away with it). Now, I've raised my rate by 400% in the last year alone. The funny thing though is that the end amount sometimes comes out the same because I could type around 3000 words per hour of the quantity-over-quality crap, whereas sometimes I am only doing 500 words per hour of the high quality stuff.

      I am really stoked about the Google Panda updates because it is forcing webmasters to focus on quality over quantity. While this doesn't necessarily mean writers will get paid more in the end (because they are spending more time per text), at least we don't have to degrade ourselves to writing projects that require absolutely no brain power.
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    • Profile picture of the author stong
      Originally Posted by Marianne Gonne View Post

      But I'm beginning to believe this isn't the right approach for everyone. Indeed, I'd say it's best suited to established writers working on complex projects that are impossible to quantify without first assessing.

      SEO article writing doesn't really fall into this category.

      For this market, price is probably the first thing your prospect wants to know (even before seeing samples). So you'll possibly lose clients if you're cagey about your rates.

      It should be fairly easy to establish your rates, based on how long you know it takes you to write 500/1000 words and the level of service you're offering (standard, syndication-worthy, etc.).

      The good thing about transparency is: if a prospect thinks your rates are too high, FINE! You don't want to work with them anyway!
      That makes sense. I think I'll continue leaving any mention of rates out of the conversation, unless someone explicitly asks about it. That way, I get to keep my typical pricing plans hidden as much as possible, while placating those that are concerned about price above all else.
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  • Profile picture of the author pranta
    Its a good encouraging post ever. I agree with you If I have quality then why I should negotiate with my price?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by karwexs View Post

      I have membership site, and I am convinced that content is worth paying for, so far no one did.

      It seems that most buyesrs are not able to distinguish between quality content and one that is not.
      It goes both ways. You'd be surprised how often the seller is sitting on top of crap content but because they wrote it they absolutely can't find any fault with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmeirx
    Congratulations! thanks all for posts ... i filled me with hope. and I'm sure your post will inspire others.
    Thanks
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    Stupid Forum Tricks #7

    The more you know .
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    ... and that's the reason why writing service providers should quote for quality, which is more than just for quantity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
    Congrats on getting the rates you deserved!

    What you did is really not easy. When I was ghostwriting, I often had people question my rates, tell me they could get good content at half the price, or that their job was "easier" than others I might do. These are all there to shake me up and make me doubt myself. The key is to let them go back to their cheap writers, and stay firm.

    In some cases, the people who tried to make me doubt my price actually did reply and said they were impressed that I stuck to my guns. Of course, some people don't reply. Like you said, you don't want those clients. They aren't your target market.

    Thanks so much for sharing here! I hope it gives Warriors a little more courage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
    if your business is based on winning a price war, your setting yourself up for disaster.

    You're much better off using another angle to stand out in the crowd. Maybe offering articles only in a specific niche.

    This works because if you're only writing weight loss articles for example, you're going to have all the info readily available in your mind and be able to pump out articles faster.

    Also, someone looking for weight loss articles that come across your ad will find it hard to pass up your offer for someone else who just does articles in general.

    When you use this as your leverage point, you can charge whatever you want...
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  • Profile picture of the author pamon
    great post. $40 for a 400 word article is a nice first job. .10/word especially. Where did those emails initially go? Did you have a list of people already? Just curious....

    I'm a writer here as well and gaining clients slowly. It's interesting to see what people will pay and what the market brings.

    Tons of .01/word writers who will give you .01/word quality, but quality writers who will give you content that sticks and delivers great traffic and quality is different. That's why a Rolex costs more than a Timex.

    Great work and good to see people succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Excellent job.

    A wise friend once referred to me as a "male gigolo" - lol.

    If you're going to be a prostitute (that is, selling yourself) don't sell yourself cheap.

    Good going.



    PS: Work on selling yourself for more, and more, and more.

    Remember, some prostitutes charge $5. Some charge $50. Some charge $500.

    Some charge $5,000.

    Some charge $50,000.

    Let me quote my man Bobby the Brain Heenan.

    "You know the difference between a cab driver and a limo driver?
    The limo driver wears a suit."

    -Bobby the Brain
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    If you can get more of these $40 project for 400 words, this thread will be just that bit more interesting for me at least anyway.
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