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Twitter This, Twiiter That - How Much Are You Actually Making?

by Daniel Soulsby
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Hi

so everyones talking about twitter now day's and Im wondering whether to jump on the "bandwagon".

What I want to know is exactly how much warriors are making from twitter, Im not that bothered about how many followers you have, I want cold hard weekly / monthly profit figures and the niche your in please!

Many Thanks
#making #money #online #twiiter #twitter
  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Daniel, I can honestly say that participating at Twitter has tripled the number
    of people who visit my personal blog. And since sales from that blog have
    increased, I can only assume that Twitter is partly responsible.

    It's like any other community. If you provide value to it, people will want to
    know what you have to offer.

    If you think about it, Twitter isn't much different from this forum. The format
    is different, but it's still a social site just like this one is.

    It's all in how you use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      You've also got to realize that Twitter creates social equity, which in my book is a big deal. Sure, you can use Twitter to kill it in your niche, but if you use it to build up your personal brand and create social equity, you'll have more power and leverage than money can buy...something to think about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Soulsby
    Hi Steven

    Good point, but with this site I can leave it for a month, come back and still post valuable comments and get traffic from this.

    If I left twitter for a month I assume everyone will have gone to follow someone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Soulsby
    You see, I like doing soming once then getting paid residually for that for as long as possible with the minimum amount work / updating, that's why I like products and websites, that's my thing. I use automatically updating blogs and outsource articles for fresh content.

    Nobody has yet to come up with hard figures, however trebling the traffic to your site sounds ok, the site I have with the least traffic get about 150 unqiues a day, how realistic is it to get 450 uniques a day from twitter and how long would that take?

    Just deciding really whether to put the time and work into doing twitter properly.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Woody C
    Twitter is a party. You don't go to a party to promote yourself. You go to a party to be yourself and have fun. Then if people like you, they will naturally want to know more about you...aka click on your link to visit your site or blog.

    I consider someone that gets on Twitter just to promote products or make money a spammer. It is so much more fun to make friends and party.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamawebinc
      Originally Posted by maverickwec View Post

      Twitter is a party. You don't go to a party to promote yourself. You go to a party to be yourself and have fun. Then if people like you, they will naturally want to know more about you...aka click on your link to visit your site or blog.

      I consider someone that gets on Twitter just to promote products or make money a spammer. It is so much more fun to make friends and party.
      I don't understand that. Why is someone who has a product to sell a spammer? Why is someone who wants to make money a spammer?

      What marketer is not on twitter to make money, at least in the long run?

      That's the same thing with sending emails now...if, heavens forbid you send an email about selling something...you can get flagged as a spammer. Even if you are sending an email to someone who opted-in to receive emails from you that included product offers.

      Makes no sense.

      Especially when you can just stop viewing those emails by simply clicking a button, and I'm assuming you can stop following someone on twitter, fairly easily as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Woody C
        Originally Posted by jamawebinc View Post

        I don't understand that. Why is someone who has a product to sell a spammer? Why is someone who wants to make money a spammer?
        You obviously missed the word "just" in that sentence. It is not a problem if you are on Twitter and promote your product(s) but don't make that your sole purpose of getting on Twitter.

        It is about creating relationships then letting them know what you have.

        If every tweet I see of yours is you saying "Have you seen the yet: (link to product)" and "I think this will help you lost weight: (followed by affiliate link)" then, yes I consider you a spammer.

        As for the e-mail comparison, people choose to opt-in to an e-mail list because they like what you have to offer. People on Twitter choose to follow you because of what you say and who you are, and what you can offer them in terms of ideas and relationships. The main point is they CHOOSE to do these things. You may get automatic follow backs if you start following 2,344,393 people but they didn't truly choose follow you back or to learn from you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    Yeah twitter is like facebook, you need to build a following of people who care about what you are saying. It needs to be nurtured and developed over time.

    I am not sure anyone can calculate returns directly from twitter but the traffic can be good if you have nice content that people retweet.
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  • Profile picture of the author WizzyWizh
    Twitter has definitely increased the traffic of my personal blog. However, this hasn't made me any money at all (hmm, or maybe like $2-3 from the adsense clicks) ... whitehat.
    But, there are blackhat methods and even programs that can be used for making money on twitter with CPA offers. With blackhat I easily make about $30-$50/day.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    Now, this is a smart thread that makes SENSE!

    Wanting to work once, get paid many times -- economy of scale -- Michael Gerber (not needing to update things every 12 minutes).

    Smart.

    Twitter is a party (as I'd say it, a pub) -- you don't sell when you're at a party, otherwise you're a (creepy) spammer.

    Also smart.

    Wanting (demanding?) cold, hard backupable figures (roi, etc.) re: twitter.

    Smart too!

    -- TW
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Soulsby
    Cheers!

    Well I can't question blogs AT ALL, I know blogs that are churning out millions for the owners, however twitter to make money? Maybe it can be questioned. Maybe it's just fun and if you make money along the way great.

    Me, I'm online to make money and do business, Im doing that so much online I don't have a huge amount of time to have fun, I like to do that with football, travel etc.

    Anyway, thanks for interesting comments, if someone does have figures (still to be seen) let's have them mate!
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  • Profile picture of the author jms.mrtn
    Ive made around 1,000 this month off twitter alone.... It works you gotta build relationships tho first
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      The value that twitter adds to your USP
      and branding in the market place is
      priceless.


      You don't necessarily need to be "Making" anything
      from twitter... it is an extention of your marketing mix.
      You should be developing relationships...personal connections.
      The money and leverage follows.

      Highest regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    I'm making traffic from it, but not money.
    Twitter is fun in its ways
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  • Profile picture of the author anomaly
    i'm making nothing extra from twitter ...

    but it's costing me nothing either, my blogs automatically tell twitter when i post ...

    i haven't gone hard out trying to acquire "friends" yet ... but it's another way for people to connect to you, so i think, like an email list, it's worth starting sooner rather than later, it might not make you money straight away, but over time ...

    also, i believe it is good for SERPS
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Allen
    I have gained several new clients in the past two weeks - all because they read my profile at Twitter and then visited my writing services site. I usually spend at least 20 - 30 minutes there per day.

    When on Twitter it is a good idea to focus on what others are saying and join in when you find something of interest. Twitter offers the perfect platform to brand yourself and to make friends at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidO
    Sorry, but I'm not interested in "twittering" away my valuable time. If others like it that's great for them. But I don't see it as some kind of "must do" for marketers.

    Those who enjoy Twitter for recreation and socializing have the right idea. If you're into it purely for marketing, forget it. In terms of pure ROI there's a lot more useful things you can be doing: articles, blogging, content creation, product creation, etc.

    When MySpace was still fresh you saw all the marketers flocking there followed by WSOs on how to capitalize on it. Then it was Facebook and now the same people are all into Twitter.

    What's next?
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    • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
      Originally Posted by DavidO View Post

      Sorry, but I'm not interested in "twittering" away my valuable time. If others like it that's great for them. But I don't see it as some kind of "must do" for marketers.

      Those who enjoy Twitter for recreation and socializing have the right idea. If you're into it purely for marketing, forget it. In terms of pure ROI there's a lot more useful things you can be doing: articles, blogging, content creation, product creation, etc.

      When MySpace was still fresh you saw all the marketers flocking there followed by WSOs on how to capitalize on it. Then it was Facebook and now the same people are all into Twitter.

      What's next?
      Yeah - I agree. It takes up a lot of time, unless you're going to actually devote the time to make it a successful part of your marketing mix, you'd do better off avoiding it. Dawdling around with anything isn't going to make you much money, Twitter is the same way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Soulsby
    Well, I guess Ive been told lol

    Loads of great tips and tricks, nice one!

    Still very little stats though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trieu
    I use twitter for fun rather than a marketing tool. If you try and sell something there, it usually doesn't work. However, if you provide links to your valuable blog posts that would be more effective
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      It took me over a year to convert to Facebook, it might take me that long for twitter lol
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    I use twitter also but mostly because of finding people to talk with. It has an incredible reach and diversity among people.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    I don't make anything, I just babble to Bev. in 120 characters or less per tweet. Then I run over, so I have to eliminate as many vowels as I can to make it fit which can take time. It's a real time waster I guess. I may get some traffic from it to some of my sites. And I've met some nice ppl.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      Nothing compares to Twitter in terms of building a fan base and building social capital. It took me a while to get it, but when I finally did everything in my business changed. People underestimate the power of influence and when you have fans and followers RT every post and comment of yours, it becomes a force multiplier.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    When Twitter is used right, I've found it to be the most amazing social networking experience ever. As soon as I joined I started picking up a new client or two every week.

    As for how much I make - I'd never reveal monthly figures, but I had such a fantastic day Friday I will go ahead and reveal I made $850 from press release orders. Keep in mind, I've been on Twitter since August, I built up a following of over 10,000 people, and several of those orders were from repeat clients. It doesn't happen overnight or even just in a few weeks.

    However I only started the press release business in October - before that I was ghostwriting and, since I'm a former reporter, writing the occasional press release for clients - so I feel I'm doing pretty well for a relatively new business owner. And it is ENTIRELY due to Twitter. I got every single one of those clients who ordered from me Friday - from Twitter.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesFraze
      I went to a marketing mastermind and a lady by the name of Shelly was there. She identified herself a twitter expert - so my first question was: how do you make money with twitter. Here is her response:

      "I have several thousand followers, I use tools to search for keywords that interest me and strike up personal conversations with the people. It is a way to meet clients and help people.

      For example, I market for 3 restaurants in Dallas. I look for words like: catering, wedding, party, etc. I review those tweets and see if anyone is looking for a recommendation that I am able to help them with. If they are, I strike up a personal conversation that eventually leads to a phone call and a new client. I try to focus on catering for 500+ people."

      When she told me that - the light clicked and there is no need for WSO's tools or anything else to explain it to me. Granted, she told me the free tools she uses and I have forgotten them, but I thought I'd share this most basic of principles with everyone. (though Dana's WSO will probably teach you tons of practical strategies)

      Oh yeah - one more thing. I don't care if your haz chezeburgerz taste like yummy. mmkay? (typical stupid tweet that is useless)
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    • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
      Originally Posted by bob_sikorski View Post

      Are you saying that you have 10,000 people on Twitter that follow you? I thought they had a limit of 5,000.
      Actually I've seen quite a few people over the 5000 limit. I think there's a ratio that you need to have though.

      For example, if you've got 5000 followers they'll allow you to follow more than 5000... not exactly sure what it is, but everyone I've seen with really high numbers is high in both followers and following.
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      • Profile picture of the author JamesFraze
        if you have 2000 followers, then you can follow more people, it increments something like that. I only have a few hundred and don't care (until I reach the cap).

        But this same limit is a reason why people stick to your following - so you stick to theirs.

        For this reason I follow anyone that isn't vulgar (based on BIO and first page of tweets I see from them).

        Twitter / JamesFraze
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          Originally Posted by JamesFraze View Post

          if you have 2000 followers, then you can follow more people, it increments something like that. I only have a few hundred and don't care (until I reach the cap).

          But this same limit is a reason why people stick to your following - so you stick to theirs.

          For this reason I follow anyone that isn't vulgar (based on BIO and first page of tweets I see from them).

          Twitter / JamesFraze

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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Originally Posted by bob_sikorski View Post

      Are you saying that you have 10,000 people on Twitter that follow you? I thought they had a limit of 5,000.
      I think Facebook has a limit of 5,000. That may be what you are thinking of.

      Twitter / Dana_Willhoit

      Chris Brogan has 50,000 people following him. I think Obama has several hundred thousand now.

      Twitter has limits so YOU have to get 2000 people following you before they let you follow more than 2000.
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        Yup facebook can only allow 5000 people to join a group and only 5000 to message at once. last time it used to be 1000 only. As for messaging, I think limit is only up to 10,000 messages per month.

        As for twitter I see its alexa ranking is not that high up but it is very good for niche marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author bob_sikorski
    Thanks for the info. I don't know why I questioned the amount of followers you could have. I gave up on Twitter and Facebook long ago. I got tired of people telling me they took a shower at 7am and how many times they changed the cat litter per day.

    Maybe I missed the boat on the importance of these social sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
      Originally Posted by bob_sikorski View Post

      Thanks for the info. I don't know why I questioned the amount of followers you could have. I gave up on Twitter and Facebook long ago. I got tired of people telling me they took a shower at 7am and how many times they changed the cat litter per day.

      Maybe I missed the boat on the importance of these social sites.
      But now you CAN KNOW YOUR MARKET INTIMATELY!!!!

      LOL.
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      • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
        Originally Posted by bob_sikorski View Post

        LOL

        I'll pass on the cat litter but a few pics on the shower from the female gender would get my attention.
        Haha - and I think we've just proved why twitter isn't the best for making sales... but why it can be a cool social tool.



        ...though I guess it would depend on what's being sold.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    I swear, tweeple - I mean people - IF you don't mind going on Twitter a few times a day and socializing and just talking about what you are working on at the moment - it pays back the time investment ASTOUNDINGLY well. I don't find Twitter to be a good way to market other people's products, but to market my services and a couple of my own info products - I have NEVER found anything easier or more effective.

    And so far, I have managed this without shower pics.
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    • Profile picture of the author vvv12
      Dana_W,

      Do you use market different products or just one? I am curious, if you are working in different niches, are you supposed to create separate twitter accounts then?

      Thanks,

      Veronica
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      • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
        Originally Posted by vvv12 View Post

        Dana_W,

        Do you use market different products or just one? I am curious, if you are working in different niches, are you supposed to create separate twitter accounts then?

        Thanks,

        Veronica
        If you are marketing completely different products - real estate and homemade arts and crafts or something like that - you might want to create different Twitter accounts - but honestly creating a whole bunch of Twitter accounts would get pretty time consuming.

        To get the most out of Twitter you need to go on there, interact, talk to people, respond to people's Tweets, check your messages and answer them, etc. Doing that for multiple accounts would get kinda old, I'd think.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    *** Front counter vs. backroom. ***

    Magnanimous vs. pragmatic.

    One MUST gauge the value of 'relationship building' vs. 'operation money-suck.'

    The front counter is all about relationship building.

    The back room is all about getting as much money, while expending the LEAST amount of effort.

    If you are going to 'carry on individual conversations' to 'build relationships,' you better be DAMNED sure you can justify all that EFFORT with QUANTIFIABLE PROFITS!!! (read: LOTS of profit, per person).

    The overall idea is to create a perpetual motion MACHINE -- not a perpetual LOSS machine!

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  • Profile picture of the author cgj1981
    I suspect Daniel, Twitter might be one of those things like building a list where for most a lot of hard work early could bring long term reward. It certainly is an evolving business model and exciting I think.
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    It is not about the money.
    It is about the relationship.
    It is not what you know, it is who you know.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
      Originally Posted by Nicholas Ho View Post

      It is not about the money.
      It is about the relationship.
      It is not what you know, it is who you know.
      That depends on how you look at it.

      How much time + energy does it take to 'build' the relationships vs. how much $ does it end up equaling.

      As cold-hearted as it seems, one must consider the ROI of relationships too.

      It's quite possible to 'build' many relationships that don't result in any (or enough) SALES.

      If you're saying, "if I build enough relationships, the money will take care of itself," that is NOT necessarily so!

      Which is what the whole thread is about!

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    Twitter is awesome. The community is very well connected and seems to thrive on devouring information. Sound like a good fit to you?

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    You will be surprised to see that Twitter followers do not usalluy disappear if you do not post for a month or sometimes even two months. I have not been active on Twtter for the past two months. For a few months before that I was quite active building my profile, adding updates to my page quite often. However my followers have increased steadily. Strangely enough I have had the highest increase in my follower base on Twitter in the months that I have been the least active on Twitter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peggy Baron
    I would like to chime in here.

    There is more than one way to make money with Twitter, you just have to use your imagination. Directly because of Twitter, I've got an ebook coming out next month that will make me money. I've also established relationships with successful marketers which have opened many doors. One other direct result of making friends on Twitter is a testimonial for one of my products that has definitely helped my sales. Another is a request for an interview which will help brand me as an expert as well as help my bottom line.

    I could go on and on, but I think you get the idea.

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    • Profile picture of the author pavondunbar
      Hi Daniel!

      Maybe I can help here as well...

      I joined Twitter in December 2008 and I already have over 2000 followers.

      Since this month is March, I designed a minisite to promote an affiliate product.

      I called it...

      "Pavon Dunbar's March Madness Explosion!"

      I just uploaded that site to my server yesterday and I already received 2 sales from it. From Twitter followers.

      The product is $97. I get paid 50% of that which is $48.50

      In the promotion, I express that I would give a $20 rebate to those that purchased from me...

      So I would net $28.50 after paying out the rebates to my clients via Paypal.

      Here's the point: Twitter is an excellent source of generating traffic to a site or blog, as Steven Wagenheim and IM Reporter have said earlier. Be creative and give your Twitter followers something that you would not give the world. In other words, give them a solid reason and great value for following you. If not, they will unfollow you. People don't care if you ate a Denny's Grand Slam for breakfast or took your dog out to get groomed. However, people do care if you can give them a solution to their problem.

      The site I created for Twitter took, like, 30 minutes to create and 20 sec. to upload. Here it is if you would like to view it...

      March Madness Offer for Twitter

      Hope this answers your question. Have a good day.

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  • Profile picture of the author malcasid
    Twitter has not done much for my marketing. Then again I haven't been using it aggressively. I would recommend jumping on the band wagon, building a relationship with your audience first then promoting. I don't think posting links without offering useful content will work.
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  • Profile picture of the author glasshalffull
    I think twitter is a bit more effective for you with sales if your followers have "followed" you outside of twitter as you have previously built a reputation with them.

    I started an account from scratch as a newbie with no rep outside of twitter and have built my followers to 7K providing only quality tweets on my niche topics. I have seen no sales and even few optins for my promotions thru tracking.

    I will continue to provide quality tweets and response on twitter but for now I'm going to focus on other avenues that will produce better results for me at this time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daisuke
    1. Sign up to Twitter

    2. Find a niche

    3. Go to Twellow and add yourself to the relevant categories

    4. Find your niche category and add 2k people. You can only add 1k people a day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Lee
    A good post by maverickwec, you definitely have to treat twitter as firstly a social tool, then a business tool. If you're continually promoting your business via twitter, your audience will lost interest. Mixing your tweets with social and business related messages has helped get more people to my blogs for sure!
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  • Profile picture of the author dsmpublishing
    Every day is different but im getting good numbers on my mailing list anything from 75-200 a day and get many buy my oto and my other offers and could survive just from this as an income without my other websites, affiliate, income streams, article writing etc.

    I can also post a weekly offer on twitter and will get 100 sales instantly for 2 mins work and i would say that 80% of my following was targeted
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