The Slow & Painful Death of Newspapers

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In the age of the web, this is already old news.

... pardon the pun.

Australian media company Fairfax recently announced it would be cutting 1900 jobs namely due to slow paper sales.

Immediately after, competitior News Limited announced it would also be cutting unspecified jobs either by natural attrition or forced redundancies.

It is absolutely no doubt to most of us here on the forum that this is because people like you and I have been quenching our information thirst's via electronic media. A'la the Warrior Forum.

Scour the web and you will read similar stories. For instance I read the other day that New Orleans City News Paper The Times-Picayune, announced that it will scale back and publish only on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday.

It was always inevitable.

Personally, I dont think all papers will die out. But it is obvious they will reduce the number of prints world wide.

What do warrior members think about this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It's kind of sad...My favorite newspaper (The Rocky Mountain News) folded over a year ago, after 150 years.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      It's kind of sad...My favorite newspaper (The Rocky Mountain News) folded over a year ago, after 150 years.
      Damn.

      Imagine owning a website for 150 years and then having some new form of media take it over.

      I used to read the Herald Sun every Sunday as a kid and then on the train to work when I was older.

      For me it was more so about the content that made me change. Yes newspapers are hard to beat when it comes to the 'quality'. But I like hearing non politically influenced voices of regular people... and I like seeing cats in star wars outfits
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      A lot of them are pricing themselves out of existence. Before we moved away from Southern California, 5½ years ago, we paid $3/week to have the Los Angeles Times delivered. I read an article that said the publishers were charging for nothing more than the wages of the delivery person. The cost of the paper was covered my advertising revenue. It was in the interest of the paper's survival to make its distribution as affordable as possible to maintain the advertising.

      When we arrived here in Greenville, Texas we inquired about daily delivery of the local paper, the Greenville Herald Banner. The cost: $11/week.

      For $3 the volume of the LA Times is HUGE. The average size of the Herald is 8 pages. We read it online and it takes a couple of minutes.
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        Apparently these Aussie papers are planning on putting up pay walls online.

        Clearly they have absolutely no idea about how the web works and how people react to it.

        They will have a small number of paying customers. Sure. But no where near the volume they once had that brought with them rivers of pure gold.

        They also have to realize that their readers are getting older and they need to focus on the younger generation. Even if the old guys buy the paper. They will die some day and their sons and grandsons will be the targets for advertisers.

        Those sons, grandsons, daughters and nieces don't like paying for information that is easy to get elsewhere online. I know I dont. In my view, if they go the pay wall route, they will hammer the nails into their own coffins.

        If they follow the route of traditional web media and give up on pride they might have a fighting chance.
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        • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
          Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

          Apparently these Aussie papers are planning on putting up pay walls online.

          Clearly they have absolutely no idea about how the web works and how people react to it.

          Those sons, grandsons, daughters and nieces don't like paying for information that is easy to get elsewhere online.
          I think that the biggest change over the years is just how much information is now freely available. News corporations used to be the ones controlling what you saw, heard and read. While they still have some control, it has become less and less with sites like YouTube making it easy for people to share news themselves.

          Newspapers and printed books both have the same problem of having a constant cost to create, print and distribute. Competing against mediums where distribution costs is measured in mere cents (hosting) is just not something they can win.
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    • Profile picture of the author danfac2012
      Many newspaper companies still refused to acknowledge it. Many still unwilling to allocate bigger budget to grow their online unit, they still have the perception that if they grow their online portal it will cannibalize their "core business". Many CEOs of these newspaper company are still living in old economy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    A couple years ago the two newspapers in Salt Lake City, The Deseret News and the SLC Tribune, downsized almost half of the staff!

    Three and a half years ago, a leading newpaper - The Chicago Tribune - filed for bankruptcy protection. They are still playing that out in court!

    Judge plans written opinion in Tribune Co. bankruptcy - chicagotribune.com

    Have newspapers become like buggy-whips?

    The only paper I ever read is the Park City Record, and I read the free version online. Even though they do have a fair amount of advertising on their website, I wonder how long they can exist.

    I can't remeber the last time I read a Cincinnati newspaper - maybe 15 or more years!

    :-Don
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    • Well, you're not hearing the whole story.

      Sure, many traditional big-city papers are going belly-up. But in recent years there's been a growing market for local free papers. We have three in Silicon Valley and a fourth is tossed in my driveway every so often whether I like it or not. I don't. I've never understood why businesses are allowed to litter on my property. Once I was standing in my front yard when the guy drove by and tossed the paper at me. I grabbed it, got in my car, chased him down on the next block and tossed it back at him through his open truck window.

      The expression on his face was priceless.

      My husband loves free papers because they have puzzles but he won't deal with disposing of them so they're stacked up all around the house. That's why I don't even subscribe to the Wall Street Journal print edition -- I don't want to have to deal with recycling them. I do have a WSJ online subscription.

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  • Profile picture of the author AABL
    I'm glad it's the demise of newspapers they seek to control the flow of information

    Alternative media and freelance journalism has really taken off since the internet age

    Spreading the word just would not be possible, in the same way a forum like this with so many knowledgable and skilled IM'ers all meeting up and sharing ideas

    The internet is great and we should defend the internet and not newspapers

    Just my opinion
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by AABL View Post

      I'm glad it's the demise of newspapers they seek to control the flow of information

      Alternative media and freelance journalism has really taken off since the internet age

      Spreading the word just would not be possible, in the same way a forum like this with so many knowledgable and skilled IM'ers all meeting up and sharing ideas

      The internet is great and we should defend the internet and not newspapers

      Just my opinion
      Defending the Internet and it's freedom should be a priority for all of us. It is the only free form media left.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    People, there is huge opportunity in this news!!

    What is the number one cost of newspaper companies? Content creation and acquisition.

    Imagine if you were a real article marketer -- one who understands that the value in article marketing is in the storytelling and access to a captive audience....

    And imagine if you could produce content that you could give to the print newspaper companies, in exchange for a free advertisement for your business...

    I expect most people will under appreciate what I just said because they cannot see how this will help them in Google, but there are some sharp cats out there who will get exactly what I am suggesting here and put it to work in their business right away.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      People, there is huge opportunity in this news!!

      What is the number one cost of newspaper companies? Content creation and acquisition.

      Imagine if you were a real article marketer -- one who understands that the value in article marketing is in the storytelling and access to a captive audience....

      And imagine if you could produce content that you could give to the print newspaper companies, in exchange for a free advertisement for your business...

      I expect most people will under appreciate what I just said because they cannot see how this will help them in Google, but there are some sharp cats out there who will get exactly what I am suggesting here and put it to work in their business right away.
      I've taken your advice and emailed my national newspaper. If they don't get back to me I'm holding you responsible .
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

        Warren Buffet, one of the best investors of all time is buying up newspaper outlets right and left.
        I heard someone say recently that newspapers will never die, just the old subscribers. Seriously, the industry is going through a major transistion including print consolidation, adaptation to online, portable readers such as iPad and tablets, mobile apps, and other emerging technologies. Coupled with the nearly compensating rise in digital revenue with sinking print revenue, it would seem to me this is a perfect storm for smart investing.
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        • Profile picture of the author David Keith
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          I heard someone say recently that newspapers will never die, just the old subscribers. Seriously, the industry is going through a major transistion including print consolidation, adaptation to online, portable readers such as iPad and tablets, mobile apps, and other emerging technologies. Coupled with the nearly compensating rise in digital revenue with sinking print revenue, it would seem to me this is a perfect storm for smart investing.
          Yea, I guess it could be. But honestly, what percentage of companies are actually able to reinvent themselves and survive, much less thrive during periods of that much change.

          I can honestly say that I am in my early thirties and almost never read an actual print newspaper. However, when I do, I am usually pleasantly surprised by the overall quality and depth of the paper and the stories.

          In many cases its almost a completely different perspective altogether from online news with what seems to be different motives. That's a good thing.

          Personally, I think they can survive. But they are going to have to focus on some online stuff and more importantly remaining an authority figure in the news space. The higher barrier to entry gives them some level of authority that readers acknowledge and crave.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

            Yea, I guess it could be. But honestly, what percentage of companies are actually able to reinvent themselves and survive, much less thrive during periods of that much change.
            It's true that many of the smaller newspapers perhaps won't survive. But, especially in recent years, the major players for example the Los Angeles Times (owned by the Tribune Company, a Chicago-based media company publishing newspapers in metropolitan markets nationwide) are consolidating operations and expanding market share, even broadening into other media such as digital publishing, radio & tv broadcasting, interactive ventures, and contract publishing. Within practical economies of scale, print media in some iteration will still be around for a long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cleaner44
    There will always be a market for newspapers... as long as people have puppies and bird cages.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I absolutely hate newspapers. They just seem to cover all the bad things in the world and try to make you depressed before you have a morning coffee.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I think it's about adaptability. Some companies absolutely refuse to get with the times. When I was a kid Sears was the number one retail store in the country. What happened? They continued to run with a business model that they didn't adapt to the times. Same thing with newspapers.

    As a little aside, I've always said someone should focus on positive news and dump all the sensational crap masquerading as news. I know there have been some feeble attempts at doing it. I really like this publication cause they get it:

    www.sunnyskyz.com
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    Strangely enough, Warren Buffet, one of the best investors of all time is buying up newspaper outlets right and left.

    I will be honest, I don't fully understand his logic and maybe he has just lost touch, but it is very interesting. He sure doesn't have a history of making too many bad investments.

    Stuff like that kinda makes you wonder if some really smart business people do indeed see things us normal business guys just can't see. Only time will tell I guess.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      Strangely enough, Warren Buffet, one of the best investors of all time is buying up newspaper outlets right and left.

      I will be honest, I don't fully understand his logic and maybe he has just lost touch, but it is very interesting. He sure doesn't have a history of making too many bad investments.

      Stuff like that kinda makes you wonder if some really smart business people do indeed see things us normal business guys just can't see. Only time will tell I guess.

      The big players in the newspaper industry are consolidating resources, so that they can reduce their biggest expenses -- content creation and acquisition, and in some cases, printing press operations.
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    • Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      I will be honest, I don't fully understand his logic and maybe he has just lost touch, but it is very interesting. He sure doesn't have a history of making too many bad investments.
      Actually, he does make bad investments, and not limited to just the three discussed in this article:

      Warren Buffett's Worst Mistakes - Yahoo! Finance

      Yep, the Wizard of Omaha lost $3.9 billion on a shoe company.

      Keep in mind Warren Buffett is very well connected politically...

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      • Profile picture of the author David Keith
        Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

        Actually, he does make bad investments, and not limited to just the three discussed in this article:

        Warren Buffett's Worst Mistakes - Yahoo! Finance

        Yep, the Wizard of Omaha lost $3.9 billion on a shoe company.

        Keep in mind Warren Buffett is very well connected politically...

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        Absolutely. With any investment there is some risk. But he didn't get to be the 2nd richest man in the US by making a habit of making poor investments.
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        • Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

          But he didn't get to be the 2nd richest man in the US by making a habit of making poor investments.
          You know, it's not hard to become immensely wealthy.

          You just have to devote your life to it and give up everything (and everyone) you love. Felix Dennis details it all in his book _How to Get Rich_.

          He claims to have spent over $100 million on drugs and women.

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          • Profile picture of the author David Keith
            Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

            You know, it's not hard to become immensely wealthy.

            You just have to devote your life to it and give up everything (and everyone) you love. Felix Dennis details it all in his book _How to Get Rich_.

            He claims to have spent over $100 million on drugs and women.

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            Well, as someone who has enjoyed some decent success in business life, I can safely say that it is much easier to make losing investments than it is to find the profitable ones.

            I kinda understand you point, but acquiring wealth is just not that easy. Lots of people have worked harder and sacrificed more than Buffet and attained far less wealth. He clearly has a knack for making good investments that most people just don't have.
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          • Profile picture of the author MP80
            Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

            You know, it's not hard to become immensely wealthy.

            You just have to devote your life to it and give up everything (and everyone) you love. Felix Dennis details it all in his book _How to Get Rich_.

            He claims to have spent over $100 million on drugs and women.

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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      Strangely enough, Warren Buffet, one of the best investors of all time is buying up newspaper outlets right and left.... He sure doesn't have a history of making too many bad investments.
      My guess is 2 things:

      1. local (hyper-local) content
      2. archives

      But what do I know?!

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    • Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      Strangely enough, Warren Buffet, one of the best investors of all time is buying up newspaper outlets right and left.

      I will be honest, I don't fully understand his logic and maybe he has just lost touch, but it is very interesting. He sure doesn't have a history of making too many bad investments.

      Stuff like that kinda makes you wonder if some really smart business people do indeed see things us normal business guys just can't see. Only time will tell I guess.
      He's buying them is really small markets. Waco, Bryan-College Station (who even knows where that is?) and he owns a paper in Buffalo NY( had if gfor decades) and 23% of the Washington Post.
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  • Profile picture of the author coingroup
    I see some newspapers are trying to charge for accessing a full article online which I feel is more of the heading in the wrong direction. This might fly in smaller markets (read: rural areas) but in larger markets, there's entirely too much competition for that business model to succeed.

    Wouldn't they be more profitable from advertisers and/or running classifieds?
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by coingroup View Post

      I see some newspapers are trying to charge for accessing a full article online which I feel is more of the heading in the wrong direction. This might fly in smaller markets (read: rural areas) but in larger markets, there's entirely too much competition for that business model to succeed.

      Wouldn't they be more profitable from advertisers and/or running classifieds?
      My thoughts exactly.

      Pay walls simply will not work for the volume they are used to.

      ..and
      Offering free news and only making money off of ads whether they be PPC or CPM will not leave munch for the papers and their investors to bank.

      If they where clever and they built themselves email lists they could incorprate CPA and affiliate offers into their money models, but then again they would need to have some marketing skills...
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  • Profile picture of the author traveltext
    I like the ecological benefits of not using paper to deliver news and ads. Saves trees, eliminates warehousing and freight expenses and its attendant power and fuel costs, and eliminates a huge waste disposal problem.
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    • Originally Posted by traveltext View Post

      I like the ecological benefits of not using paper to deliver news and ads. Saves trees, eliminates warehousing and freight expenses and its attendant power and fuel costs, and eliminates a huge waste disposal problem.
      What about manufacturing and delivering all the computers, phones and tablets and ipads?? Then there's the electricity to run everything everyday- servers, home PC's, battery chargers...
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  • Profile picture of the author Trivum
    Buffet has said something along the lines of, "I'm fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful."

    No doubt he has a plan. Not exactly sure what it is.

    That said, it's the hyper-local papers that may be able to make it (as well as the few very large papers). The hyper-locals may be able to get by on very local news: the score of the football game, the story with the construction on Main Street, and (this is the BIG one) ... people's NAMES.

    There's another thread going on here tonight about someone opening an email because it said, "Your (sic) In This Video Ken." ... It's the vanity play. I remember hearing about a local (physical, offline) paper that was still killing it in some small town in Tennessee or North Carolina or somewhere like that. They actually printed MORE copies every day than the town's population.

    The reason for their success? ... It was chock full of local names every day. People would naturally buy it to see if they were in it or to read about people they knew.

    That said, people could still get the score of the local football game on Facebook or Twitter (without the "professional" write up, of course). And they could get what's happening with the reconstruction on Main Street from the local gov't website ... probably without any mention of the kickbacks, of course .

    So who knows, the local angle may go away too (for a while). Then some marketer will step in an fill that hole with a local-based site. (As many already have.) Someone else will see the money they're pulling in and decide to do the same. Suddenly the first guy sees he's losing business to the second guy and decides he needs to step up his game -- get better coverage/more professional coverage, etc. ... And soon enough, boom, another local paper is born (though they may call it something else by then, of course).
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by coingroup View Post

      I see some newspapers are trying to charge for accessing a full article online which I feel is more of the heading in the wrong direction. This might fly in smaller markets (read: rural areas) but in larger markets, there's entirely too much competition for that business model to succeed.

      Think Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News, Sky News and Wall Street Journal. Murdoch thinks pay walls are the future of newspaper growth.


      Originally Posted by Trivum View Post

      There's another thread going on here tonight about someone opening an email because it said, "Your (sic) In This Video Ken." ... It's the vanity play. I remember hearing about a local (physical, offline) paper that was still killing it in some small town in Tennessee or North Carolina or somewhere like that. They actually printed MORE copies every day than the town's population.

      The reason for their success? ... It was chock full of local names every day. People would naturally buy it to see if they were in it or to read about people they knew.

      There is a local rag that seems to be doing very well.

      It is a weekly print paper that shares the names and mug shots of everyone arrested during the week, and what they were arrested for.

      I have talked to people who read it each week, and they say that they buy it to see who they know who might have been arrested.

      I live in a town of 50,000, so it is a small town, but not too small of a town. I think that plays into the thinking that people might know who was arrested.

      Frankly, I am surprised that so many people are so busy-body as to want to know what everyone else in town is doing, but I have often noticed that I don't get into gossip in the same way most people do.
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      • Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Think Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News, Sky News and Wall Street Journal. Murdoch thinks pay walls are the future of newspaper growth.





        There is a local rag that seems to be doing very well.

        It is a weekly print paper that shares the names and mug shots of everyone arrested during the week, and what they were arrested for.

        I have talked to people who read it each week, and they say that they buy it to see who they know who might have been arrested.

        I live in a town of 50,000, so it is a small town, but not too small of a town. I think that plays into the thinking that people might know who was arrested.

        Frankly, I am surprised that so many people are so busy-body as to want to know what everyone else in town is doing, but I have often noticed that I don't get into gossip in the same way most people do.

        I've been wanting to do that for awhile.

        Free content
        pay for distribution and printing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Trivum
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        It is a weekly print paper that shares the names and mug shots of everyone arrested during the week, and what they were arrested for.
        You know, I've actually seen a complete newspaper that was nothing but that -- people who got arrested. It came out once a week, I think. (Maybe once a month.) I saw it in a convenience store. It was a tabloid style rag.

        I asked the girl behind the counter, "People actually buy that?"

        "Oh, YEAH!" she said.

        >> EDIT: Oh, I guess we're talking about the same type of thing. At first I read your post to mean it was a section in the local paper.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Mitchell
    Newspapers, especially locals provide a much-needed service. Their platform (digital to print) will have to change, but the demand for the service they provide will remain strong.

    Bridging the chasm from print to digital is going to be lethally awkward for many papers. To do so management is going to have to think totally out of the box in the way they approach their advertising revenue.

    In reality, they are sitting on top of a gold mind and don't know it because of their old world marketing paradigms.

    Pay walls aren't the solution --- if ever there was a flawed concept its pay walls.

    I wrote a branded business and personal development weekly print edition column for over three years and even though I found it somewhat limiting, I plan to start it back up this fall.

    By limiting, I am referring to editors that would rather not publish anything that could be an alternative and therefore a threat, perceived of otherwise, to print advertising. For instance, many editors will not run a piece about the merits of banner ads or direct mail, or anything else they may feel threatening. I guess I can't blame them but try as they may; they are not going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebUs
    With everything taking a turn towards digital it's no wonder more and more newspapers are folding. I remember the first time I ever read a newspaper...ok well maybe just the sunday comics but I was young so who can blame me right? I still occasionally pick up the paper because nothing compares to reading news from a newspaper.
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    • Profile picture of the author oscarb
      This is very interesting to see on the Warrior Forum.
      I'm one of those journalists you've heard about. In late 2010 I was laid off from a daily paper after years watching my colleagues lose their jobs.

      I'm of two minds on this topic.

      On the one hand, I've long been critical of the business model. It worked when newspapers had a near monopoly on news and information and advertisers had nowhere else to go.

      As Internet commerce emerged in the late 1990s, most newspaper executives -- and, more importantly, the corporate masters who handed them their marching orders --were slow to change. On the other hand, there's more to this story.
      That model was already under pressure from consolidation. Those of you who are over 40 probably remember how common it used to be to have a morning AND afternoon daily paper in most big cities. That competition was good for journalism. By extension, it was also good for Democracy because it meant there were more eyeballs trained to probe and dig and serve as watch dogs against abuses of power, waste, secrecy, corruption, graft, which are equal opportunity vices that cross political boundaries. Democracy -- and our system of separation of powers -was the real reason I got in to this business. It's why a lot of us got in to this business.

      It's why I spent 60 hours sitting in a dusty office at the Illinois Department of Transportation sifting through thousands of gas receipts from a politician just to find out how often he used his government -issued car for personal stuff. It's why I spent months investigating a city's overspending, abuses of power and reliance on red-light cameras for revenue generation. It's why I wrote the story of a Mendota, Illinois teen who disappeared on a walk home from the grocery store. I could go on. I wasn't getting rich doing this but I had a fierce need to expose that which was hidden and to tell stories about people whose voices were not often heard. I won lots of awards but they came much later, long after I'd spent thousands of thankless hours working overtime --often without pay -- to meet a deadline.

      But I got tired. I got tired of all the talk about layoffs. I got tired of never getting a raise and seeing my 401(k) frozen. I got tired of very long hours and very low pay. So in 2004 I started looking into Internet marketing (thank you, Ken Evoy!) I started selling stuff on ebay. I saw a lot of junk passing itself off as content online. I still do. Few people seem to pay much attention to grammar or spelling (if I had a dime for every misplaced apostrophe). And content in the entrepreneurial world of IM is seen for the most part only for its traffic-generating value. That's one reason 500 word articles go for $1. It's great for the entrepreneur, lousy for the writer.

      I still write and have moved into copywriting (for large and mid-sized companies) because, well hey, I need to pay the bills. But I still believe in journalism. I believe it's important. And I laugh when I read people like Sarah Palin say everyone can be a journalist, because they can't. It took me years to get good at my craft, one I once loved.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by oscarb View Post

        I still believe in journalism. I believe it's important. And I laugh when I read people like Sarah Palin say everyone can be a journalist, because they can't. It took me years to get good at my craft, one I once loved.

        I agree with what you have said here -- I just wish that you would use the regular font, so that I don't have to strain to read what you have written. LOL

        I cringe when people come into the forum, who barely have a grasp of the English language and they ask how they can make money online. Too often, people will tell them to start writing articles for money!!

        Real writers have invested a lot of effort to refine their ability to tell a story that people want to read, and they have worked hard to learn where to put the apostrophes and commas.

        Yet, people advise daily that unskilled people should dive into the writing industry to make money.

        On the one hand, people who give this advice diminish the value of the work that a professional writer does. And on the other hand, those low-value, untalented hacks help other people to see real value in what a professional writer can bring to the table.
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        • Profile picture of the author goindeep
          @ oscarb, you can actually make good money writing for the online world.

          My prediction as that you will very soon see more and more sites with crap content be wiped off of the Google map forever.

          Google wants to give users great content. What do you think G+ is all about?

          Matt Cutts has come out and directly said that they want their users to read and view quality content online and they want to provide those search results.

          What do you think this is going to do to the $1 articles and the blogs/sites that they inhabit?
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          • Few people seem to pay much attention to grammar or spelling (if I had a dime for every misplaced apostrophe)

            So come up with a product -- perhaps a game -- that teaches proper use of apostrophes. Think like an internet marketer. Make money.

            (Oh, I'm sorry, that would be "apostrophe's" in today's jargon.)

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  • Profile picture of the author joomseller09
    With the development of online newspaper, the printed newspapers are falling dramatically. I can see it is the fact in every country. In my country, I found that not only they decrease in number, but also in quality of content, comparing to online news. Actually, reporters this generation (in my country) are messing up the media with shocking (but unreal) news. And many printed newspaper are twisted in that trend. Somehow I miss the old days and the eager of waiting a new release of my favorite papers.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxpoweraff
    If they just took all the resources they have such as a huge amount of content writes and wrote fresh content all day long, they'd make more on ad clicks then they would selling news papers!
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    "The crux of the bisquit is the apostrophe." - Frank Zappa
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    • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
      If there was ever one thing the internet needs, it's more talented writers. Getting to the point where high quality writing is more profitable, more useful and translates into better traffic is actually here now but there is still a ton of junk out there to wade through.

      The further Google refines and perfects their ability to rule out the crap, the better in my opinion. Same goes for all the big search players.

      The fall of the newspaper industry is inevitable, I think, but I still see references to "internet news" as the amateurs on TV all the time. A lot of the big names in newspapers have a big head start online just with the credibility factor, hopefully they will find their way to The Warrior Forum so they can learn how it's done.

      Still though, it amazes me just how much the internet has changed all of our lives. Those black and white photos come to mind from the 40's and 50's where you see nothing but elbows and knees sticking out from behind a newspaper pretty much everywhere you look in the AM.

      The times they are a changin' folks. Adapt or die is a pretty universal statement.
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  • Profile picture of the author creativesweb
    Hello Andrei Rotariu,

    I wouldn't say the newspaper as we know it will disappear. The delivery method is just changing, tt's becoming digital. Newspaper companies such as the New York Post, Washington Post etc. are going digital now. Not long ago the New York post was struggling in the stock market due to the fact that they were reaching less and less people. The guy Slim bought most of those stocks arguing that the New York post wasn't a "newspaper" to him, but rather a "news factory" so all these companies have to
    deliver in effective ways their content nowadays.

    It's like a lot of people in advertisement. Where would yo invest your money in ads? In the newspaper? or in mobile ads? Most people is always using their mobile phones to find content on anything nowadays.

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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by creativesweb View Post

      Hello Andrei Rotariu,

      I wouldn't say the newspaper as we know it will disappear. The delivery method is just changing, tt's becoming digital. Newspaper companies such as the New York Post, Washington Post etc. are going digital now. Not long ago the New York post was struggling in the stock market due to the fact that they were reaching less and less people. The guy Slim bought most of those stocks arguing that the New York post wasn't a "newspaper" to him, but rather a "news factory" so all these companies have to
      deliver in effective ways their content nowadays.

      It's like a lot of people in advertisement. Where would yo invest your money in ads? In the newspaper? or in mobile ads? Most people is always using their mobile phones to find content on anything nowadays.

      Cheers,
      So if the "news paper" turns digital, how is it still a news paper?

      lol.

      Different name, different game, and apparently a different level of turn over for the news companies.

      My bets are in.

      I reckon we are going to see dozens completely collapse and the ones that are still around will fight for shares of websites and blogs. But then again there is also Internet censorship. If they pass that, where all screwed!
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      • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
        Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

        So if the "news paper" turns digital, how is it still a news paper?

        lol.

        Different name, different game, and apparently a different level of turn over for the news companies.

        My bets are in.

        I reckon we are going to see dozens completely collapse and the ones that are still around will fight for shares of websites and blogs. But then again there is also Internet censorship. If they pass that, where all screwed!
        The newspapers do have some sort of idea...

        They are using their readership to promote more profitable avenues that also came from their paper days.

        Carsguide.com.au, domain.com.au, careerone.com.au, rsvp.com.au etc.

        The pay walls are going to be for specific niche publications that readers were already paying to get access to. The (Australian) papers have always provided exclusive content from key writers to their traditional papers and they do get bought by those interested. You will be able to get that exclusive content online now instead of having to grab a paper.

        I can't see it changing especially if they make good use of tablets at an affordable price. I even buy magazines on my ipad because I appreciate the curated quality content. They are simply reducing their costs to head into the new direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    All writing has quality. Some of it just doesn't have very much.

    LOL

    Great observation.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    This isn't just about media. This is about a lot more than that.

    The simple fact is that most things in our life are heading online. It takes less people to run the online world than the offline world we have been living in for so many years.

    This means job cuts are going to become a LOT more frequent across a whole range of industries. Many jobs are becoming redundant in this new online dominated world. We have only just seen the beginning.

    Just be glad you are a part of the online world already because you have a big jump start on all these people who are going to be forced to look for ways to make money on the Internet (from home) over the next few years.

    People who sell make money online products are the ones that will really prosper over the next few years.
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  • Profile picture of the author funkynassau
    I read one of the daily Toronto papers every day and the local free rural paper which comes out weekly. I like my newspapers. I do read papers online and I think both methods have their place and their followers too. But I can see newspaper readers going by the wayside over time, no doubt there's been a drop already now that we can read full versions online for a fraction of the price of buying the paper. I dont think they'll disappear entirely for a long time to come.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      This brings up other ideas;

      Such as why flyer and postcard marketing seems to be working well for some.

      With people not getting their hard copy hit they are maybe more susceptible to marketers attempts at giving them a story (copy) in exchange for a few minutes of their awareness.

      Hmmm
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