How to be a JV manager?

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Maybe look for JV broker courses instead...

Willie Crawford and Chris Rempel both have courses on the subject as well as many others for cheaper prices. Though I believe those are how to execute the campaigns.

Leap Frog and get going.

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by theory expert

Maybe look for JV broker courses instead...

Willie Crawford and Chris Rempel both have courses on the subject as well as many others for cheaper prices. Though I believe those are how to execute the campaigns.

Leap Frog and get going.

lol true. I should act like frog i guess

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

any other suggestion?

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MIB Mastermind 12 years ago

Bob Serling has a great course called Million Dollar Joint Ventures.

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kojakeugenio

12 years ago

Sorry for the newb question. But what does the JV manager do? Is it like a middle man or something?

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theory expert

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Originally Posted by ankur sharma

I am well aware of entire process of launching a product. But, i guess my potential client will be interested in me doing only one role, that is of recruiting/handling JVs.

So, warriors how can i achieve this?

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Well if you are aware of the process what's the problem my friend? Lay down the ground work on agreed upon task and fire up a contract. If contract is in over your head, then see if you can bring in a heavy weight, and, get a referral fee, or, what ever else you can thing of. The great thing about JV's is you can create the deal the way you want (within reason).

Are you asking what tools you need to recruit and handle jv's?
Now that is an entirely different question, though, you did say you "know/aware of" how to launch.

Originally Posted by kojakeugenio

Sorry for the newb question. But what does the JV manager do? Is it like a middle man or something?

Yes a JV manager is a middle man preferably with connections, though, the term can be used a little loose.

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by theory expert

Well if you are aware of the process what's the problem my friend? Lay down the ground work on agreed upon task and fire up a contract. If contract is in over your head, then see if you can bring in a heavy weight, and, get a referral fee, or, what ever else you can thing of. The great thing about JV's is you can create the deal the way you want (within reason).

Are you asking what tools you need to recruit and handle jv's?
Now that is an entirely different question, though, you did say you "know/aware of" how to launch.

Yes a JV manager is a middle man preferably with connections, though, the term can be used a little loose.

How do they start? I mean, i just need to contact warriors and tell them, i am jv manager and i can recruit affiliates for them? But, my point is if i contact various people for JV. They might turn me down, because i dont have list of my own.

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KillerJVs

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

How do they start? I mean, i just need to contact warriors and tell them, i am jv manager and i can recruit affiliates for them? But, my point is if i contact various people for JV. They might turn me down, because i dont have list of my own.

It's not about having your own list, it's about having relationships with people that have lists...

...A JV Manager is the middle man, sure if you got your own list it helps, but what's important is having quality relationships with the guys who have the lists.

I know JV managers who have literally 0 people on their own lists, have never launched their own product but still manage launches that do 7 figures... How? They build and maintain relationships with people that can send the HEAT!

-Matt

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E. Brian Rose

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

How do they start? I mean, i just need to contact warriors and tell them, i am jv manager and i can recruit affiliates for them? But, my point is if i contact various people for JV. They might turn me down, because i dont have list of my own.

If I were looking for a JV Manager, I would want to find one that has a very big roladex. If you are looking to become a JV manager, then this is what you need to work on. You say you don't have a list. What type of list are you referring to? You don't need a list of customers, you need a list of affiliates and a darn good relationship with them.

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

If I were looking for a JV Manager, I would want to find one that has a very big roladex. If you are looking to become a JV manager, then this is what you need to work on. You say you don't have a list. What type of list are you referring to? You don't need a list of customers, you need a list of affiliates and a darn good relationship with them.

have you worked with jv manager? His duties is only to bring in sales ? How much he gets paid?

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E. Brian Rose

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

have you worked with jv manager? His duties is only to bring in sales ? How much he gets paid?

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I work with JV managers all the time. Although, these days, it is more of a b2b relationship, as they come to JVZoo to assist setting up their clients' funnels.

Some managers charge a flat fee, while others charge a percentage of sales. A good manager will do much more than just recruit affiliates. A good manager will either assist you or give you a checklist of things that you need to be more successful. That list might include a JV page, swipe copy, banners, etc.

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

I work with JV managers all the time. Although, these days, it is more of a b2b relationship, as they come to JVZoo to assist setting up their clients' funnels.

Some managers charge a flat fee, while others charge a percentage of sales. A good manager will do much more than just recruit affiliates. A good manager will either assist you or give you a checklist of things that you need to be more successful. That list might include a JV page, swipe copy, banners, etc.

Do i have to launch my own products successfully before i can handle anyone else's launch? Lets say you have a list and i want to have good relationship with you.

How should i contact you? "Eric, hey buddy how are you doing? I am jv manager and i have several clients with good converting products. May i know what sort of products you are looking forward to promote to your list?

Can i know your launch schedule? "

These sorts of questions will help me in building relationship with you?

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KillerJVs

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

Do i have to launch my own products successfully before i can handle anyone else's launch? Lets say you have a list and i want to have good relationship with you.

How should i contact you? "Eric, hey buddy how are you doing? I am jv manager and i have several clients with good converting products. May i know what sort of products you are looking forward to promote to your list?

Can i know your launch schedule? "

These sorts of questions will help me in building relationship with you?

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Want to build a relationship with someone? Do something for them first, without them asking you to do it.

Standout, grab their attention and GIVE before you take.

It's all about giving before taking..

If someone came to me and asked "Can i know your launch schedule" sure I'd give it to them, but what then? Are you going to ask me to promote something of yours without first doing something for me, or without even knowing who you are?

You don't need to have launched your own product to be a successful launch manager for someone else, but you do need to have a massive rolodex of people who you have a relationship with that can bring the heat.

-Matt

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wizozz

12 years ago

I think there are 2 places you can start:

*Building your own list

*Building relationships with big affiliates.

Building your own list is discussed elsewhere already in the forum. Will not repeat here.

*Building relationships with other affiliates

Well, as a JV broker, your most important asset is your social capital, your IM network. Start building that network in any way you can. If you have the budget and the time, go to the popular IM live seminars to meet with and network with people face to face. If you don't, just network online on LinkedIn, skype groups, Facebook, wherever you can find similar people.

I would at least select a sub-niche, like, social media marketing instead of any kind of Internet Marketing. Then find good affiliates who have top ranking blogs or sites on Google, approach them, build a relationship with them. And the way to build a relationship with them is to do not ask them to promote X product first, but ask how you can help them with their business first.

Maybe they have a similar product, and they want reciprocal mailing. Maybe they want to add some bonus to product to access to your buyers list. Maybe they need some other help. If you can do that, if they feel you have their best interest in your heart, you are %80 done.

You can also of course launch your own product, or create a few bonus products to add value to the launches you promote.

You can also JV with smaller list owners (like, 2-5,000 people on their list) who has good relationship with them. And form a group of 10-20 such people in a given sub-niche. And then promote launches as a group, under your affiliate name. You can track clicks sent and divide the profits accordingly. But when some people see you on a "launch leader board", they will notice you, and they will want you to help them with their launches.

I'm being coached by Willie Crawford to become a JV broker. If you can find a coach and good training, that is definitely worth it. But it is rare. Willie is not looking for new coaching students right now. I don't know of anyone else doing this kind of training/coaching either.

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

Do i have to launch my own products successfully before i can handle anyone else's launch? Lets say you have a list and i want to have good relationship with you.

How should i contact you? "Eric, hey buddy how are you doing? I am jv manager and i have several clients with good converting products. May i know what sort of products you are looking forward to promote to your list?

Can i know your launch schedule? "

These sorts of questions will help me in building relationship with you?

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BrentDotCom

12 years ago

Originally Posted by theory expert

Well if you are aware of the process what's the problem my friend? Lay down the ground work on agreed upon task and fire up a contract. If contract is in over your head, then see if you can bring in a heavy weight, and, get a referral fee, or, what ever else you can thing of. The great thing about JV's is you can create the deal the way you want (within reason).

Are you asking what tools you need to recruit and handle jv's?
Now that is an entirely different question, though, you did say you "know/aware of" how to launch.

Yes a JV manager is a middle man preferably with connections, though, the term can be used a little loose.

I guess kind of like a street agent in basketball, huh? lol

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jaggyjay

12 years ago

Hey Ankur,

Lots involved in JV management. In addition to managing the affiliate relationships, there's also the product planning, sales funnels creation, copywriting, graphic design, and the list goes on. So, it's more than just getting or managing affiliates.

Tim's one of the bigger ones - if not the biggest - here on the forum. But there's also folks like Anton Nadilo. He and his company were the ones who managed John Racine's FBA (fulfillment by amazon) product launch -- which was mega successful.

Perhaps you can skip to the front of the line by getting coaching from someone like Anton; although I honestly don't know if he offers coaching. It beats trying to figure out everything yourself. And it's sure as heck faster than waiting to have hundreds of successful launches under your belt in order to build the credibility someone like Tim has.

Another alternative may be for you to join Icun's and Tim's WSO Launch Code. In this way, you can learn the ins and outs of wso product launches as taught by Tim Atkinson and Icun themselves. Once you've gotten product launches down to a science - then it's just a matter of you building relationships with other vendors and establishing yourself as an expert. Then, I imagine, it won't be long before folks start knocking down your door for your expertise

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- Jay

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jaggyjay

Hey Ankur,

Lots involved in JV management. In addition to managing the affiliate relationships, there's also the product planning, sales funnels creation, copywriting, graphic design, and the list goes on. So, it's more than just getting or managing affiliates.

Tim's one of the bigger ones - if not the biggest - here on the forum. But there's also folks like Anton Nadilo. He and his company were the ones who managed John Racine's FBA (fulfillment by amazon) product launch -- which was mega successful.

Perhaps you can skip to the front of the line by getting coaching from someone like Anton; although I honestly don't know if he offers coaching. It beats trying to figure out everything yourself. And it's sure as heck faster than waiting to have hundreds of successful launches under your belt in order to build the credibility someone like Tim has.

Another alternative may be for you to join Icun's and Tim's WSO Launch Code. In this way, you can learn the ins and outs of wso product launches as taught by Tim Atkinson and Icun themselves. Once you've gotten product launches down to a science - then it's just a matter of you building relationships with other vendors and establishing yourself as an expert. Then, I imagine, it won't be long before folks start knocking down your door for your expertise

Best!
- Jay

Anton does a coaching program? I havnt heard this name before. can you provide link to his product?

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Blade Runner 77

12 years ago

Thank you , very useful info here

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KillerJVs

12 years ago

This isn't meant to offend you or anything, but if you're having to ask "How to be a JV Manager" then you aren't ready to be one...

If you're having to ask how to build a relationship, then you aren't ready to be a JV Manager.

If you haven't already got relationships, been through a launch then you aren't ready to be a JV Manager.

The best course of action would be to get yourself a mentor who is a JV Manager, someone like Willie, Sohail, Lester etc and learn and leverage that relationship...

-Matt

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MackSell 12 years ago

JV manager-Well,The main work of JV manager is to setup JV partners and Affiliates.
To be a JV manager you need to be networked to some big affiliates out there.
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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by KillerJVs

This isn't meant to offend you or anything, but if you're having to ask "How to be a JV Manager" then you aren't ready to be one...

If you're having to ask how to build a relationship, then you aren't ready to be a JV Manager.

If you haven't already got relationships, been through a launch then you aren't ready to be a JV Manager.

The best course of action would be to get yourself a mentor who is a JV Manager, someone like Willie, Sohail, Lester etc and learn and leverage that relationship...

-Matt

No offence taken, instead i appreciate your replies. Do you know any course on this subject or any mentorship program?

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Venturetothetop

12 years ago

Here is the question.

Why would I use a JV manager?
Simply because they can bring me more sales then I can alone. It is their job to go find affiliates and make sure my product sells.

What should a JV broker bring to the table?

A JV broker should have relationships with other affiliates or the ability to influence new affiliates to resell my product on launch day. The larger your circle of influence the more you can charge and the more in demand you will be. However if you can bring me more sales then I could alone then you already have value.

Correcting my sales funnel and page etc are perhaps good extras but what I have noticed lately is a whole new trade in JV's where they push design services etc through their friends so that they make more money form you.

In my mind a JV broker should believe in my product enough not to try and make money from me, but to make money from selling my product.

I'm not a big fan of the new type of JV partners that churn out multiple launches a day, I want a JV partner who really see's the value of the work I put into my products and that they really are true quality that will sell well. I would want a JV partner who really looks for quality products because then I also know their affiliates trust them whole heartedly.

Just a tip to set you apart from the new age brokers that are popping up al over the place.

I am looking for a JV Broker for an upcoming product, I know you are new but it may work well for you to get your hands dirty - if you make me more sales then I would alone then you are onto a winner. Hit me up...

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Venturetothetop

Here is the question.

Why would I use a JV manager?
Simply because they can bring me more sales then I can alone. It is their job to go find affiliates and make sure my product sells.

What should a JV broker bring to the table?

A JV broker should have relationships with other affiliates or the ability to influence new affiliates to resell my product on launch day. The larger your circle of influence the more you can charge and the more in demand you will be. However if you can bring me more sales then I could alone then you already have value.

Correcting my sales funnel and page etc are perhaps good extras but what I have noticed lately is a whole new trade in JV's where they push design services etc through their friends so that they make more money form you.

In my mind a JV broker should believe in my product enough not to try and make money from me, but to make money from selling my product.

I'm not a big fan of the new type of JV partners that churn out multiple launches a day, I want a JV partner who really see's the value of the work I put into my products and that they really are true quality that will sell well. I would want a JV partner who really looks for quality products because then I also know their affiliates trust them whole heartedly.

Just a tip to set you apart from the new age brokers that are popping up al over the place.

I am looking for a JV Broker for an upcoming product, I know you are new but it may work well for you to get your hands dirty - if you make me more sales then I would alone then you are onto a winner. Hit me up...

I got your point. I am pretty sure many of these JV managers dont even go through products. I also remember huge launch of "get free facebook ads". It got launched by ton of top marketers and then they came to know it was a total misleading ad. Result - lot of refunds, backlash and marketers getting slammed here to promote that crap.

I also think, as we move onto 2013, the crap products will slowly start moving out of the system and more serious, talented marketers will take the place with their astounding products.

Just my 2 cents. I have PM ed you

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KillerJVs

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

I got your point. I am pretty sure many of these JV managers dont even go through products. I also remember huge launch of "get free facebook ads". It got launched by ton of top marketers and then they came to know it was a total misleading ad. Result - lot of refunds, backlash and marketers getting slammed here to promote that crap.

I also think, as we move onto 2013, the crap products will slowly start moving out of the system and more serious, talented marketers will take the place with their astounding products.

Just my 2 cents. I have PM ed you

Alot of the CB products don't have JV Managers...

"Get Free Facebook Ads" was promoted by every man and his dog because the product owner had massive connections and relationships with the big mailers...

Even though the product was ****, the guy had the relationships to make it work. It's all about the relationship.

-Matt

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Originally Posted by KillerJVs

Alot of the CB products don't have JV Managers...

"Get Free Facebook Ads" was promoted by every man and his dog because the product owner had massive connections and relationships with the big mailers...

Even though the product was ****, the guy had the relationships to make it work. It's all about the relationship.

-Matt

"Every man and his dog" lol, you put a smile on my face. I remember marketers explaining and apologizing on public forum. Anyway, i guess i should go and find some course on this topic. I am sure there must be one. To be very frank, i dont even have plan of actions right now. I dont want to blast 100 emails saying "I have a product, will you promote it". There has to be a better strategy.

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BrentDotCom

12 years ago

Originally Posted by KillerJVs

Alot of the CB products don't have JV Managers...

"Get Free Facebook Ads" was promoted by every man and his dog because the product owner had massive connections and relationships with the big mailers...

Even though the product was ****, the guy had the relationships to make it work. It's all about the relationship.

-Matt

Damned if that ain't true about just about everything in life. Good relationships has got to be #1 on the list in any business venture.

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Anthony La Rocca

12 years ago

Hi Ankur,

If its a launch you will do on WarriorForum, I suggest a site called WarriorJV - it's run by Kenster...have you seen this before? Lots of great connects to make there

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ankur sharma

12 years ago

Thanks buddy. I am looking into it.

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sammib01

12 years ago

The problem is anyone can wakeup tomorrow and claim to be a JV Manager or JV Broker, but it is like being the president of your own club... it really depends on how many people are in the club, your relationship with them and how you can influence them.

If you have good connections and networks you can sell anything as seen above. If you want to be taken seriously you need to look closely at what you put your name under before you put your name "on the line" double meaning there.

I come from the International Business Negotiations world, which is the same system just bigger players and bigger a**holes. Your reputation is the most valuable thing you possess. It is up to you and only you to keep it clean. In some businesses most reputations are like underware, you cannot see them but you know they are dirty.

I feel it is more important to be trusted, respected and looked to for value, quality and more for your money than to sell everything under the sun to anyone with a PayPal account or credit card. Good connections to honest affiliates are hard to find as are diamonds but both are very valuable.

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