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Looking for someone who can write quality WSO's / Ebooks...

by GoogleWarrior
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Hi.
I was wondering where I could find someone
who can and has written quality WSO's
or Ebooks...

Where can I find these people?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#ebooks #quality #write #wso
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    What do you want them for?

    Remember one of the rules of WSO's...

    A WSO must be your own work.

    I don't think we should be encouraging the creation of WSO courses by ghost writers.
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    • Profile picture of the author deesonjame
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      What do you want them for?

      Remember one of the rules of WSO's...

      A WSO must be your own work.

      I don't think we should be encouraging the creation of WSO courses by ghost writers.
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe when they say it must be your own work, they are referring to the fact that it cannot be plagiarized. As long as you have the rights to sell it, I think it is okay.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by deesonjame View Post

        Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe when they say it must be your own work, they are referring to the fact that it cannot be plagiarized. As long as you have the rights to sell it, I think it is okay.
        Correct. I have no problem with someone who makes money doing X but is not great at product creation so they get someone to help them put their product together.

        What I don't like however is MMO type courses teaching people how to make money that have been written by people who have absolutely no practical experience in what they are teaching. It's all just based on theory because some guy who wants to try and make a few dollars selling dreams in the WSO forum pays them to create that product.

        I don't think those types of courses should be encouraged. There is enough of that rubbish on Clickbank.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      What do you want them for?

      Remember one of the rules of WSO's...

      A WSO must be your own work.

      I don't think we should be encouraging the creation of WSO courses by ghost writers.
      It's perfectly acceptable to have someone ghostwrite your ebooks for you. It has to be a unique product created by you or exclusively for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author adsassist
    I don't think its a bad idea to out source for an WSO.

    It is his idea and he will be telling them what he wants out of it.

    I would rather see a good out sourced WSO then one that he tries to make and turns to be horrible. We have enough of them out there. I think that's working smart.

    But that's just my opinion.

    This is the section you want to be in.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by adsassist View Post

      I don't think its a bad idea to out source for an WSO.

      It is his idea and he will be telling them what he wants out of it.

      I would rather see a good out sourced WSO then one that he tries to make and turns to be horrible. We have enough of them out there. I think that's working smart.

      But that's just my opinion.

      This is the section you want to be in.
      Warrior Products & Services
      Softwares, graphics and plugins, different story.

      But you are telling me you would love to purchase a course from someone on how to make $100 per by writing articles even if that person has never written an article before in their life?

      I guess we differ on that point then.
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  • Profile picture of the author matthewtc
    I agree outsourcing is a part of our society. You don't see companies writing their own materials too much anymore. They normally outsource it unless it is a large company with their own branding/marketing department.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I agree with the sentiment of Will's opinion. People having products written for them on topics they know little to nothing about (and then selling it as their own while pretending to be "experts") is doing little to help the IM/MMO market. Once support questions, the "do you do this yourself" questions, and all the other crap start coming in, the walls quickly come down.

    However, I think there are more good reasons to hire a ghostwriter for your WSO/Ebook than there are bad. Some people just don't have the time to write a 50 page ebook themselves. Others don't have the ability to write very well, or can't put things in an easy to understand lesson. That's where writers come in.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      I agree with the sentiment of Will's opinion. People having products written for them on topics they know little to nothing about (and then selling it as their own while pretending to be "experts") is doing little to help the IM/MMO market. Once support questions, the "do you do this yourself" questions, and all the other crap start coming in, the walls quickly come down.
      Yeah, but it's no different than people writing their own products on topics that they know nothing about ... and I'm sure you've seen the newbies opening up a thread like .. OMG. How the Heck Do I Make Money Online ... and he has a sig file "How To Make a Gazillion Bucks in One Month."

      So in that respect, there's little difference between getting "the lie" ghostwritten or doing it yourself.

      It would be a better point to make, ghostwritten or not, sell something that provides great value for your customers and something that you personally have had success with and/or know a lot about the topic.

      In other words, don't sell junk.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Yeah, but it's no different than people writing their own products on topics that they know nothing about ... and I'm sure you've seen the newbies opening up a thread like .. OMG. How the Heck Do I Make Money Online ... and he has a sig file "How To Make a Gazillion Bucks in One Month."

        So in that respect, there's little difference between getting "the lie" ghostwritten or doing it yourself.
        Unless you hire a good enough Ghostwriter. Then all of a sudden it seems that you might actually know a thing or two. At least when a crappy writer writes a crappy product on something they know nothing about, they are found out pretty quickly. I think what Will is saying is that it gives them the ability to cover their asses for just a bit longer than they normally would.

        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        In other words, don't sell junk.
        What a world it would be, if people listened to this .
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    • Profile picture of the author Scratchbelowthesurface
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      I agree with the sentiment of Will's opinion. People having products written for them on topics they know little to nothing about (and then selling it as their own while pretending to be "experts") is doing little to help the IM/MMO market. Once support questions, the "do you do this yourself" questions, and all the other crap start coming in, the walls quickly come down.

      However, I think there are more good reasons to hire a ghostwriter for your WSO/Ebook than there are bad. Some people just don't have the time to write a 50 page ebook themselves. Others don't have the ability to write very well, or can't put things in an easy to understand lesson. That's where writers come in.
      As a ghostwriter, I am on the fence when it comes to developing content for people without any knowledge of the topic. Of course, I can't turn the money down, but I wonder, what happens when these pseudo-authors try and answer specific questions about the topic at hand?

      For instance, I just wrote several books on a medical topic. All of them are on Amazon and all have top reviews. The "author" has a bona fide interview with a local journalist regarding her book and her quest to find "the answer." How is she going to pull that off? And if she chooses to go with another writer in the future, won't that be a telltale sign that the tone and style is changing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Heath Allison
    It is not uncommon for experts in field to get there information ghost written. They may not be good writers themselves and just need help in this area. Of course they write the specification so the content is essentially designed by them.
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  • Profile picture of the author RD Phoenix
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    As far as the rules, Suzanne nailed it, letter perfect.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketinguk
    Yeah i understand exactly what Will is saying here but i don't fully agree with it. It's within the rules of the forum as Suzanne and Paul have confirmed, although clearly the best is to create a product that is answering a real problem for people in a particular area, and writing it yourself. However, i don't have a problem with people creating the "skeleton" of the product i.e. coming up with the basic ideas of how they want the course to look in structure and outsourcing the rest. As Joe said some may not have the time or the writing abilities to put it into action.
    But above all, it needs to be decent quality content that answers people's needs in a certain area.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    You can find a lot of good ghostwriters in the Warriors for Hire section. Many of them have experience writing ebooks on a wide variety of subjects.

    If you're looking for someone to write your WSO sales pages then you should talk to a copywriter. You can find a directory of copywriters in the Copywriting section of the forum.

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    • Profile picture of the author marketinguk
      Indeed Rose, in fact i think the warriors for hie section has "really come of age" recently and negates the need to really go elsewhere for your outsourcing to places like Elance. However, having said that, i still have some contacts there that i use to outsource my work to.
      Joel
      Originally Posted by Rose Anderson View Post

      You can find a lot of good ghostwriters in the Warriors for Hire section. Many of them have experience writing ebooks on a wide variety of subjects.

      If you're looking for someone to write your WSO sales pages then you should talk to a copywriter. You can find a directory of copywriters in the Copywriting section of the forum.

      Rose
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        I don't think we should be encouraging the creation of WSO courses by ghost writers.
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        It's perfectly acceptable to have someone ghostwrite your ebooks for you. It has to be a unique product created by you or exclusively for you.
        I don't know diddly about programming a plugin, but had one created which solves a problem and will likely solve a problem others will have. That could be considered along the same lines of having something ghost written.

        But I know where Will is coming from - as when it comes to specific "methods" or techniques, one would hope you could get support from the person who really does have the expertise to assist and knows things based from experience - not just knowledge. Although, not everyone with experience knows how to handle marketing that knowledge.

        Hopefully you hire someone who has proof to back up what ever things are taught and really has great research skills.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

          I don't know diddly about programming a plugin, but had one created which solves a problem and will likely solve a problem others will have. That could be considered along the same lines of having something ghost written.

          But I know where Will is coming from - as when it comes to specific "methods" or techniques, one would hope you could get support from the person who really does have the expertise to assist and knows things based from experience - not just knowledge. Although, not everyone with experience knows how to handle marketing that knowledge.

          Hopefully you hire someone who has proof to back up what ever things are taught and really has great research skills.

          Same with me ... I've had plugins programmed for me exclusively, one I sold here. I gave him the specs ... what I wanted the plugin to do.

          A lot of people are assuming and maybe rightly so that the OP just wants someone to create a great product for him with no creative input or effort on his part. The reason I say rightly so is that lately there have been quite a few threads started about WSOs and creating them ... just blindly creating any WSO so they can sell it. It's as though someone told them or they believe that throwing out a WSO is the path to riches.

          These people have no clue the amount of work and planning that go into successful offers. I've seen some amazing products coming from the WF, but they aren't slapped together just to make a killing on WSOs.

          The way to have a ghostwriter create your ebook is to know already what it is you want to say, what methods, what information, etc. and let the ghostwriter work his writing magic. I would never hire a ghostwriter and say .. write me a product, please any more than I would hire a programmer and say program something or other for me, please.

          There's no easy, peasy road to creating a dynamite product that will sell well and benefit the buyers. It's up to you, the OP, to come up with the idea or information ... the skeleton of the product and let the ghostwriter put it together for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Harvey
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    I had to laugh about your post. You are right of course. I can see someone requesting a topic from a ghostwriter in an area they know nothing about and it becomes really famous. It would be funny to see what happens when they get interviewed.
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  • Profile picture of the author affspy
    I think he wanted to say where to find people to write WSO Salespage ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by affspy View Post

      I think he wanted to say where to find people to write WSO Salespage ?
      No, although that service does exist in the WSO or Warriors for hire, etc.

      Re: Looking for someone who can write quality WSO's / Ebooks...
      OP can post an ad in the Members looking to hire you, or on a freelance site or where ever to get an ebook written.
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