WSO Rules

12 years ago

Seams against the rules of the WSO forum to me - but I don't have all the details. Since you've found 2 of these I would use the report button and let the mods know which ones they are and what they are doing. Affiliate programs are not allowed as a WSO - the offer must be something you've created (or paid to have created - outsource yes - affiliate no).
That's my understanding at least. Also remember we are all moderators - its up to the community to help police itself.
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Kay King

12 years ago

Affiliate programs aren't allowed - but list building with free WSO's is allowed unfortunately. Using that to promote only affiliate links to WSO's is a flawed strategy - but some are doing just that.

The WF doesn't dictate what a list owner can send his list - but they'll come down hard if there's not a working unsubscribe link. (hint)

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BackLinkiT

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

Yes you can launch a free wso with an optin to an email list. Also try the warroom, except in that case do not link to a squeeze page; Link to a product you are giving away for free, and then you can put links inside of it to your squeeze.

Originally Posted by Kay King

Affiliate programs aren't allowed - but list building with free WSO's is allowed unfortunately. Using that to promote only affiliate links to WSO's is a flawed strategy - but some are doing just that.

The WF doesn't dictate what a list owner can send his list - but they'll come down hard if there's not a working unsubscribe link. (hint)

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You've both missed the point, I think, which is maybe me explaining it badly.

When you optin, you find the 'product' is just a potted version of another WSO with an aff link to that WSO.

I have no problem with a free WSO being a unique product and then getting emails pushing another WSO. But this is going beyond that, it seems to me...

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Kay King 12 years ago

When you optin, you find the 'product' is just a potted version of another WSO with an aff link to that WSO.

If that's the case, I'd be reporting it and let the mods sort it out. Seems designed to get around the "no affiliate products" rule.
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- Jill Carpenter 12 years ago
  
  I think you need to also leave REVIEWS of your experience on both of these threads. Does not matter if it was free, if you think your time was wasted then you should mention it.
  
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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by BackLinkiT

You've both missed the point, I think, which is maybe me explaining it badly.

When you optin, you find the 'product' is just a potted version of another WSO with an aff link to that WSO.

I have no problem with a free WSO being a unique product and then getting emails pushing another WSO. But this is going beyond that, it seems to me...

You are allowed to build a list with a "free WSO" and that appears to be what they are doing, whether they are promoting another WSO with an affiliate link or not through the list, I would think doesn't break any rules. There are no rules that state what you can promote through your list.

This is a free WSO ... right? So you're not out any money. Don't like what they are doing, unsubscribe. Seems simple enough.

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Jill Carpenter

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

You are allowed to build a list with a "free WSO" and that appears to be what they are doing, whether they are promoting another WSO with an affiliate link or not through the list, I would think doesn't break any rules. There are no rules that state what you can promote through your list.

This is a free WSO ... right? So you're not out any money. Don't like what they are doing, unsubscribe. Seems simple enough.

I won't mention any names (hehe) but someone else recently ran a WSO which basically was a link to finding a service on another WSO. It was not a "product" but just "go look at this other wso" type thing and the mods shut it down. It was basically this other person building their list and they offered no value or nothing different that couldn't already be found.

This sounds like the same technique, so I do think the Mods would be interrested.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by BackLinkiT

You've both missed the point, I think, which is maybe me explaining it badly.

When you optin, you find the 'product' is just a potted version of another WSO with an aff link to that WSO.

I have no problem with a free WSO being a unique product and then getting emails pushing another WSO. But this is going beyond that, it seems to me...

What is a 'potted version' ... ?
Sorry, not familiar with that terminology ...

Agree with Michael Oksa ... try to trick people, they'll get it ... people are not fools.
provide value ... get people eating out of your hand ...

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Resale Rights Ninja

12 years ago

Yes you can launch a free wso with an optin to an email list. Also try the warroom, except in that case do not link to a squeeze page; Link to a product you are giving away for free, and then you can put links inside of it to your squeeze.

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ALicenseToCode

12 years ago

That is really fishy, I don't want to give someone my information in a WSO just so they can tell me what WSO to buy.

Is it against the rules to just put in their WSO thread what other WSO they're recommending you buy?

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Michael Oksa

12 years ago

A list building WSO is fine, but not if it's meant to circumvent the rules.

That's the obvious, and correct, response.

There is another thing to consider--a message to all of the people doing this:

You are wasting your time. You may think you found a way to get a round the rules, but why? You aren't fooling anyway, and you will have to continually work hard to keep your latest hustle going.

It's always a losing proposition.

Doing things ethically may seem to take more time up front, but it's not time spent, it's time invested.

Even if you don't care about your reputation, you surely care about how much money you make. Cheating means you lose both.

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cashcow

12 years ago

I think that whether it's free or not the original "thing" that is being offered in the WSO has to be something created by the person offering the WSO.

From what the OP is saying, it sounds like what you get when you take them up on the free WSO is just a link to another WSO that they have to buy?

I don't think that's something that is allowed.

But maybe if they gave you a report or something first, then the link to the other WSO I think that would be ok.

What exactly did you get when you "bought" the WSO?

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Kal Sallam

12 years ago

So your getting half a WSO once you opt-in then to get the full version you need to buy?
What exactly did you get when you opt in?

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GarrieWilson

12 years ago

It depends on if the product advertising for signing up is delivered.

One could offer a basic widget for opting in and then advertising/promote a more powerful widget that is a WSO.

Nothing wrong with that as long as the original offer is as advertised.

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