Article Syndicators - Give the people what they want

by fin
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I have an idea, and with the way the forum seems to be going I think it would be beneficial. As far as I'm aware, the only person who has ever backed up anything they've said is tpw.

Instead, over the last few weeks I've see 2 huge (warrior forum huge) syndicators giving out numbers that would look good in a fairy tale book.

It seems to me that every time I come to this forum I see the same thing over and over again. Some people decide to pick apart everything someone says. Attack their writing as if they are a word god. And the biggest one - repeat the exact same article syndication information you could find in a book, over and over and over again. Usually you will find this anywhere someone utters the words "article marketing" somewhere in the forum.

Now article marketing is great, yes, but after watching 2 people spewing out numbers I have decided that the syndication stuff you hear so much on this forum is based on lies. No doubt many people will agree.

Well now you can give something back (that we can't read in a $20 book) and you can help your fellow warriors. (Tbh - I just want to laugh at the made up numbers I'm predicting).

Why don't you tell us:

1 - How much traffic you get from the average well placed article?

2 - How much optins do you get from the average will placed article?

3 - What % of people open your emails?

4 - What % of people on your list are buyers?

Of course you don't have to answer these questions. You can just continue sprouting the same crap over and over again that doesn't mean anything, all while attacking anything people says. Or you can give people a true look into successful syndicators.

Your choice.
#article #give #people #syndicators
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by fin View Post

    I have decided that the syndication stuff you hear so much on this forum is based on lies.
    That'll make for a really constructive and helpful conversation, won't it? You start off with hostility and aggression by calling people liars and then fire questions at them?

    Good luck with that approach - you might need some!
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      That'll make for a really constructive and helpful conversation, won't it? You start off with hostility and aggression by calling people liars and then fire questions at them?

      Good luck with that approach - you might need some!
      Lol, yeah I think I got away with my wording and I apologize.

      What I mean to say was I don't think it's exactly as it's described. And we don't know numbers so people could be talking about things on a completely different basis from everyone else.

      But since this thread had "article syndication" in the title you can bet one million dollars it would already have been filled with people who normally give their regular opinion, and then some different people would coming with their thanks. All while nobody knows what's going on.

      I though this thread could be a chance to help people get down to the bottom of it.

      Obviously everyone won't. Dare I say it's because it will shatter the safety net they hide behind.

      Like I've said before, I'm sure some people are successful, but it really is a case of repetitive bull from people aligning themselves along beside those people and showing nothing to back it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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    Originally Posted by fin View Post

    I have an idea, and with the way the forum seems to be going I think it would be beneficial. As far as I'm aware, the only person who has ever backed up anything they've said is tpw.

    Instead, over the last few weeks I've see 2 huge (warrior forum huge) syndicators giving out numbers that would look good in a fairy tale book.

    It seems to me that every time I come to this forum I see the same thing over and over again. Some people decide to pick apart everything someone says. Attack their writing as if they are a word god. And the biggest one - repeat the exact same article syndication information you could find in a book, over and over and over again. Usually you will find this anywhere someone utters the words "article marketing" somewhere in the forum.

    Now article marketing is great, yes, but after watching 2 people spewing out numbers I have decided that the syndication stuff you hear so much on this forum is based on lies. No doubt many people will agree.

    Well now you can give something back (that we can't read in a $20 book) and you can help your fellow warriors. (Tbh - I just want to laugh at the made up numbers I'm predicting).

    Why don't you tell us:

    1 - How much traffic you get from the average well placed article?

    2 - How much optins do you get from the average will placed article?

    3 - What % of people open your emails?

    4 - What % of people on your list are buyers?


    Of course you don't have to answer these questions. You can just continue sprouting the same crap over and over again that doesn't mean anything, all while attacking anything people says. Or you can give people a true look into successful syndicators.

    Your choice.

    I agree with Alexa in saying that an outright attack in calling people liars is hardly condusive to attracting sympathisers to your opinion.

    To answer your questions:

    1 - My average well placed article would get anything between 150,000 and 2 million+ views, resulting in an average click thru rate of approx 5% (with average sales of $4,000). I can do as many articles a week as I can handle, but don't want overkill on the subject matter.

    2 - I don't do opt ins

    3 - I don't do emails.

    4 - I don't do lists.

    I have previously PM'd proof to many Warriors who enquired as to my methods, but it's not any old niche that they would be applicable to. Feel free to contact me and I will gladly help you if I can.

    You appear to be an angry young man disillusioned with IM at your own constant failures, and whilst I can fully understand everyone has to vent their feelings and frustrations now and then, to do it on a forum where you appear to spend a great chunk of your time is hardly smart is it?

    Yes, probably 99% on WF are bullshi*ters, but that's the same in all forums as any place you can hide anonymously behind a computer screen, username and avatar, will inevitably attract losers, loners, and liars. There again real life is not a whole lot different.

    There's a big, big world out there away from IM, and it sounds like you need a break buddy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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      Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

      I agree with Alexa in saying that an outright attack in calling people liars is hardly condusive to attracting sympathisers to your opinion.
      It doesn't matter really. People need to get over their sensitivity and address the issue, not their feelings. It might not have been the best approach, but it doesn't matter.

      Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

      To answer your questions:

      1 - My average well placed article would get anything between 150,000 and 2 million+ views, resulting in an average click thru rate of approx 5% (with average sales of $4,000). I can do as many articles a week as I can handle, but don't want overkill on the subject matter.

      2 - I don't do opt ins

      3 - I don't do emails.

      4 - I don't do lists.

      I have previously PM'd proof to many Warriors who enquired as to my methods, but it's not any old niche that they would be applicable to. Feel free to contact me and I will gladly help you if I can.
      Really now? Then please do share this information. Your numbers seem highly embellished if not downright falsified. My BS detector is real good too.

      I'm not attacking you by any means, as you have to admit those numbers are some real whoppers to even the most impressionable of people.

      If it's no consequence to you, then do share your proof with me via PM or right here. Declining is tantamount to being full of BS, as I'm sure you understand.

      BTW, Jamie (FIN), what gives? I haven't seen you post something this aggressive...
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      • Profile picture of the author fin
        Originally Posted by TheRealDudeman View Post


        BTW, Jamie (FIN), what gives? I haven't seen you post something this aggressive...
        Sorry, it wasn't meant to come across aggressive. I'm not saying it was meant to be soft either, just medium
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        • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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          Originally Posted by fin View Post

          Sorry, it wasn't meant to come across aggressive. I'm not saying it was meant to be soft either, just medium
          No need to apologize, I don't much care if you were swearing and labeling and such since the approach is not important to me...the message is.

          That's why I don't like it when peeps come in here and are like, "you're name calling, why should I answer you, meanie?" Because you got called out, that's why lol.

          Anyway, I hear what you're saying, there is a lot of BS flying around, ::cough, hornydevil:: AS is one of the best marketing mediums I use, but I still don't think it's the holy grail that others prop it up to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Originally Posted by fin View Post

    Why don't you tell us:
    Why should we?

    You have made your mind up we are all liars/scammers etc.

    So what would the use be in obliging you?

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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    Now article marketing is great, yes, but after watching 2 people spewing out numbers I have decided that the syndication stuff you hear so much on this forum is based on lies. No doubt many people will agree.
    Sure they will but you could try it before you call everyone a liar.

    Why don't you tell us:

    1 - How much traffic you get from the average well placed article?
    Depends on the niche, the publication, the recommendation from the site/owner, publication owner and frankly none of your business anyway.

    2 - How much optins do you get from the average will placed article?
    See above.

    3 - What % of people open your emails?
    None of your business whatsoever.

    4 - What % of people on your list are buyers?
    I separate buyers from non buyers and none of your business.

    Of course you don't have to answer these questions. You can just continue sprouting the same crap over and over again that doesn't mean anything, all while attacking anything people says. Or you can give people a true look into successful syndicators.
    ....and you could try another forum or just keep away from threads that you consider to be populated with liars.

    What a shame Fin, I was starting to like you. If it's any scant consolation I couldn't give a monkeys fat a*** whether you believe me about anything or not....and nor should you.

    Incidentally, if all these people are liars, as you say, why do you think your little question and answer session will make them non liars all of a sudden?

    Flawed thread from the very start I'm afraid.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

      Sure they will but you could try it before you call everyone a liar.



      Depends on the niche, the publication, the recommendation from the site/owner, publication owner and frankly none of your business anyway.



      See above.



      None of your business whatsoever.



      I separate buyers from non buyers and none of your business.



      ....and you could try another forum or just keep away from threads that you consider to be populated with liars.

      What a shame Fin, I was starting to like you. If it's any scant consolation I couldn't give a monkeys fat a*** whether you believe me about anything or not....and nor should you.

      Incidentally, if all these people are liars, as you say, why do you think your little question and answer session will make them non liars all of a sudden?

      Flawed thread from the very start I'm afraid.
      Oh diddums. Let's do everything to avoid the real questions, then the next time we see a thread on article marketing we'll fill it with out crap because we like to be heard.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Originally Posted by fin View Post

    I have an idea, and with the way the forum seems to be going I think it would be beneficial. As far as I'm aware, the only person who has ever backed up anything they've said is tpw.

    Instead, over the last few weeks I've see 2 huge (warrior forum huge) syndicators giving out numbers that would look good in a fairy tale book.

    It seems to me that every time I come to this forum I see the same thing over and over again. Some people decide to pick apart everything someone says. Attack their writing as if they are a word god. And the biggest one - repeat the exact same article syndication information you could find in a book, over and over and over again. Usually you will find this anywhere someone utters the words "article marketing" somewhere in the forum.

    Now article marketing is great, yes, but after watching 2 people spewing out numbers I have decided that the syndication stuff you hear so much on this forum is based on lies. No doubt many people will agree.

    Well now you can give something back (that we can't read in a $20 book) and you can help your fellow warriors. (Tbh - I just want to laugh at the made up numbers I'm predicting).

    Why don't you tell us:

    1 - How much traffic you get from the average well placed article?

    2 - How much optins do you get from the average will placed article?

    3 - What % of people open your emails?

    4 - What % of people on your list are buyers?

    Of course you don't have to answer these questions. You can just continue sprouting the same crap over and over again that doesn't mean anything, all while attacking anything people says. Or you can give people a true look into successful syndicators.

    Your choice.
    I don't think you've approached this right lol.

    James Scholes
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