I Don't Want To Piggy Back On YOUR Success

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Call it pride, but I no longer desire to hook up with super big name gurus just
to make a few bucks. Call it pride, call it whatever you want. I want to do it
on my own or at least do it with people on my level.

There was a time I would have given my right arm to do a JV with a John
Reese or a Frank Kern. But now, so what? So I have this supper honcho to
help me make a fortune.

What does it say about me?

Not a lot.

I look back at how I made it to where I am and I'm proud...very proud
because I did it with minimal help.

I know what you're going to ask. If Frank Kern called me up and said,
"Hey Steve, wanna do a JV with me?" wouldn't I jump all over it?

No, I wouldn't...not until I've earned that right.

And right now...a low 6 figure a year earner...I haven't even come close to
earning that right.

Again, call it pride, call it anything you want. It just doesn't mean anything
to me if I make it because of somebody else.

Okay, so why am I bringing this up?

Good question.

Here is why.

In the 2 years plus that I have been at this forum, I have seen tons of
posts asking how to get a JV with a big guru. It's like the dream of so
many marketers. Like I said, it used to be mine.

But maybe now that money just isn't that important anymore, it's the
accomplishment that makes whatever I do meaningful. So what have I
really accomplished if I get a 7 figure earner to create a product with me
and pimp it to his 6 figure list?

In my eyes...not a hell of a lot.

But that's just my opinion of this subject.

What about YOURS?

Would you give your right arm to JV with a John Reese or a Frank Kern?

Be honest. There is no crime in wanting money and getting it any way
you can as long as you're not breaking the law. And if somehow you're
able to get one of these big dudes to do something with you, all the more
power to you.

I'm just curious to know who else feels like I do, or am I truly a very odd
person as many have hinted or downright said to my face.

I can handle the truth.
#back #piggy #success
  • Profile picture of the author dsmpublishing
    Hi steve

    im certainly with you on this one. Plus my reason is that im sick to the back teeth of the way they treat their subscribers by sending them out rubbish everyday by the time they get the email relating to our products will they really give it the same amount of thought of someone that just sends out one offer a week. I know which one id rather be involved in.

    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      Well, here is how I feel about it.

      The thing that I find frustrating with JV deals is not that you depend on some "guru" to help you out, but that you have to learn a whole new skill set. My goal with IM was to create more time with my family, not create a 60 hour work week.

      Ok, so I learn affiliate marketing, cool. Then I learn how to make my own stuff, even better. Now, I have to learn a whole NEW skill set, like how to create a JV page, how to set up a JV launch, how to attract JV partners, how to make it easy for them to sell your stuff, etc.

      Why does everything have to be a launch? Whatever happened to just releasing a product and selling it over time?

      I don't know, maybe I'm getting a tad bitter, but it doesn't seem like there is ever enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    I look at it a lot differently. If I create a product or service that will actually help customers, I want as many people to know about it as possible. It doesn't matter who is promoting it, as long as they have a relationship with their list and can make sales.

    We just had some big names promote our new service, but I don't think of it as piggybacking. If they didn't believe in the service, I'd rather them not promote it. But for the JV partners who thought it could help their subscribers, I couldn't care less if they were named Kern, Filsaime, or Joe Schmoe. The more people who see the offer, the better.

    You can't have too many good business relationships.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      I look at it a lot differently. If I create a product or service that will actually help customers, I want as many people to know about it as possible. It doesn't matter who is promoting it, as long as they have a relationship with their list and can make sales.

      We just had some big names promote our new service, but I don't think of it as piggybacking. If they didn't believe in the service, I'd rather them not promote it. But for the JV partners who thought it could help their subscribers, I couldn't care less if they were named Kern, Filsaime, or Joe Schmoe. The more people who see the offer, the better.

      You can't have too many good business relationships.
      Ron, I was referring more to having one of these guys agree to create
      a product or service with me...a true JV.

      Sure, if I create a product that I believe in I don't care who promotes it.

      That's not the same thing in my opinion, though some people think of a
      JV as just getting somebody to promote your stuff. I don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    For a minute there... I thought I'd clicked on a link to your blog by mistake Steven :rolleyes:
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    Bare Murkage.........

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