newbie questions

johnfrem · 03-12-2009, 07:36 AM

I am a newbie to IM .....I have a digital product that I would like to persue blog owners and other website owners for banner advertising. My thought is they will place the banner ad on their site to bring traffic to my site and in return any sales that are made we will split the profits 50/50. I will take care of all the customer support. Considering all they have to do is collect checks....my questions are.....

1.Does this seem like a fair deal? Would you do it?
2. What Affiliate Manager should I use so we both can track sales made from their site.

PS: My digital product I created is not just an Ebook. Its a training kit for my entertainment/career niche with (flash files,PDF's,audio and video) ... and its not a make money fast or IM training kit.

reynald2790 · 03-12-2009, 07:43 AM

I think it is a fair deal to all webmasters. If I could have my own website yes I would do it but right now I am planning to make one in order to traffic more banner exchanges. I think you must use clickbank it gives you a 50/50 deal with webmasters.

johnfrem · 03-12-2009, 09:57 AM

I was hoping to get more opinions. anyone else?

stsnelson · 03-12-2009, 10:07 AM

Unless you want to set up your own affiliate program, I would go with Clickbank. 50% is nice but what price will you charge for the product?

I would go as high as 75% to affiliates and have a nice, solid backend set up to upsell and crosssell as well as to educate the purchaser on how to effectively use what they bought.

thinkrich · 03-12-2009, 12:41 PM

Look up webrings of sites in the same/similar niche to yours.

Join the webring and/or forum and make yourself known.

Any whizbang sites you see, then you can politely contact their support or webmaster with your proposal.

It's going to take a bit to get off the ground but the more traffic that comes, the more webmasters you will get with backlinks/affiliates of your product(s)

I would suggest that you also start a blog and join others of same niche who have blogs so you can feed off each other.

Cross-promotion never hurt...it brings in money for you also

Joshua N. Rabon · 03-12-2009, 06:39 PM

Clickbank ripping of affiliates - Someone filing charges against clickbank

That's a link to a thread about clickbank problems.

Other options to clickbank are paydotcom.com and E-junkie. E-junkie doesn't have as many affiliates as clickbank, but you don't pay them a percentage of your sale.

You can host 10 products (up to 50 mb) for $5 a month with no limits on bandwidth, no transaction fees or limits.

There are other choices too. Most people go with clickbank because of their large pool of affiliates, but if you plan to recruit your own affiliates you might check out other options. Some people get a lot of affiliates easily with clickbank, but eventually everyone has to recruit their own.

50% is fair but what's your price.

Going with a higher percentage like 75% or more can accelerate sales but you should be looking to get your backend set up quickly.

heidigroleau · 03-12-2009, 08:08 PM

From what you've said, maybe a good option would be to set up your own affiliate program with the Clickbank. You would have to figure out what you what kind of percentage you would be willing to offer your customers as well, if you're going to offer 50% to affiliates, make sure you have a decent price to benefit from. You always want to offer and incentive to your affiliates, so maybe you might need to offer a higher percentage and then counter this with a one time offer on your backend to make a profit. Just an idea, see how you go!

TheGodfather · 03-12-2009, 10:53 PM

just as someone that is sort of in the web design/development business, i have a counter question to ask you: when was the last time you clicked on a BANNER AD?

do you really think that you'll get any traffic from those? and usually people pay several cents for clicks on their banners... you can do what thou wilt as far as I'm concerned... just taught you'd like to know this...

lavaleekathy · 03-12-2009, 11:25 PM

Thanks for your post Joshua, I've had some trouble in the past with clickbank and that helps me sort a few things out! I think in the thread someone has mentioned that they are taking legal action against clickbank for similar reasons! Need to stay on top of it to make sure you're getting your commissions! Good thread!

miniwangja · 03-12-2009, 11:37 PM

you won't get a good answer here. ask your inner critique.

Samuel Lee · 03-13-2009, 01:04 AM

If you're looking at setting up a clickbank affliate program its typically expected that you need to offer at least a 50% sale inclustion of what your earning per sale with your affilates. If you offer a high incentive with your affliate product, you can almost guarantee that affliates will be more than happy to assist you in promoting your product! This would also give you a great opportunity for cross promotional methods with other products you may have as well!

Joshua N. Rabon · 03-13-2009, 06:42 AM

Glad to pass on a good thread lavaleekathy. A lot of people will be watching that one

03-12-2009, 07:36 AM	#1
johnfrem HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Baltimore City USA Posts: 125 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	newbie questions I am a newbie to IM .....I have a digital product that I would like to persue blog owners and other website owners for banner advertising. My thought is they will place the banner ad on their site to bring traffic to my site and in return any sales that are made we will split the profits 50/50. I will take care of all the customer support. Considering all they have to do is collect checks....my questions are..... 1.Does this seem like a fair deal? Would you do it? 2. What Affiliate Manager should I use so we both can track sales made from their site. PS: My digital product I created is not just an Ebook. Its a training kit for my entertainment/career niche with (flash files,PDF's,audio and video) ... and its not a make money fast or IM training kit.

03-12-2009, 07:43 AM	#2
reynald2790 Music is my Life War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 286 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 16 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: newbie questions I think it is a fair deal to all webmasters. If I could have my own website yes I would do it but right now I am planning to make one in order to traffic more banner exchanges. I think you must use clickbank it gives you a 50/50 deal with webmasters.

03-12-2009, 09:57 AM	#3
johnfrem HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Baltimore City USA Posts: 125 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: newbie questions I was hoping to get more opinions. anyone else?

03-12-2009, 10:07 AM	#4
stsnelson WBTD Guy War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 566 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking	Re: newbie questions Unless you want to set up your own affiliate program, I would go with Clickbank. 50% is nice but what price will you charge for the product? I would go as high as 75% to affiliates and have a nice, solid backend set up to upsell and crosssell as well as to educate the purchaser on how to effectively use what they bought.
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03-12-2009, 12:41 PM	#5
thinkrich HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: , , Australia. Posts: 111 Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Contact Info	Re: newbie questions Look up webrings of sites in the same/similar niche to yours. Join the webring and/or forum and make yourself known. Any whizbang sites you see, then you can politely contact their support or webmaster with your proposal. It's going to take a bit to get off the ground but the more traffic that comes, the more webmasters you will get with backlinks/affiliates of your product(s) I would suggest that you also start a blog and join others of same niche who have blogs so you can feed off each other. Cross-promotion never hurt...it brings in money for you also
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03-12-2009, 06:39 PM	#6
Joshua N. Rabon HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dallas,Texas , USA. Posts: 146 Thanks: 77 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: newbie questions Clickbank ripping of affiliates - Someone filing charges against clickbank That's a link to a thread about clickbank problems. Other options to clickbank are paydotcom.com and E-junkie. E-junkie doesn't have as many affiliates as clickbank, but you don't pay them a percentage of your sale. You can host 10 products (up to 50 mb) for $5 a month with no limits on bandwidth, no transaction fees or limits. There are other choices too. Most people go with clickbank because of their large pool of affiliates, but if you plan to recruit your own affiliates you might check out other options. Some people get a lot of affiliates easily with clickbank, but eventually everyone has to recruit their own. 50% is fair but what's your price. Going with a higher percentage like 75% or more can accelerate sales but you should be looking to get your backend set up quickly.

03-12-2009, 08:08 PM	#7
heidigroleau Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Jersey, United States Posts: 35 Thanks: 9 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: newbie questions From what you've said, maybe a good option would be to set up your own affiliate program with the Clickbank. You would have to figure out what you what kind of percentage you would be willing to offer your customers as well, if you're going to offer 50% to affiliates, make sure you have a decent price to benefit from. You always want to offer and incentive to your affiliates, so maybe you might need to offer a higher percentage and then counter this with a one time offer on your backend to make a profit. Just an idea, see how you go!

03-12-2009, 10:53 PM	#8
TheGodfather HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 371 Thanks: 52 Thanked 21 Times in 13 Posts	Re: newbie questions just as someone that is sort of in the web design/development business, i have a counter question to ask you: when was the last time you clicked on a BANNER AD? do you really think that you'll get any traffic from those? and usually people pay several cents for clicks on their banners... you can do what thou wilt as far as I'm concerned... just taught you'd like to know this...

03-12-2009, 11:25 PM	#9
lavaleekathy HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 106 Thanks: 35 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: newbie questions Thanks for your post Joshua, I've had some trouble in the past with clickbank and that helps me sort a few things out! I think in the thread someone has mentioned that they are taking legal action against clickbank for similar reasons! Need to stay on top of it to make sure you're getting your commissions! Good thread!

03-12-2009, 11:37 PM	#10
miniwangja Entrepreneur Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: newbie questions you won't get a good answer here. ask your inner critique.

03-13-2009, 01:04 AM	#11
Samuel Lee HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 285 Thanks: 64 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: newbie questions If you're looking at setting up a clickbank affliate program its typically expected that you need to offer at least a 50% sale inclustion of what your earning per sale with your affilates. If you offer a high incentive with your affliate product, you can almost guarantee that affliates will be more than happy to assist you in promoting your product! This would also give you a great opportunity for cross promotional methods with other products you may have as well!
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03-13-2009, 06:42 AM	#12
Joshua N. Rabon HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dallas,Texas , USA. Posts: 146 Thanks: 77 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: newbie questions Glad to pass on a good thread lavaleekathy. A lot of people will be watching that one