Is your VA damaging your business -- without your even knowing it?

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I just posted elsewhere about a helpdesk that I contacted and got a, well, rather unhelpful response from.

I was going to post the following thoughts in that thread, but due to the title, I thought a lot of folks might not read what I'm about to say, which might be important; I don't know. You tell me.

It ain't some bolt out of the blue revelation or anything. And I'm sure it's been brought up 48 million times on this board before. But it might bear repeating. I dunno. Anyway...


* If you have a VA (virtual assistant), do you know what he or she is actually doing?

How much is s/he helping your business grow and generate happy customers (read: high likelihood of referrals) versus leaving customers or potential clients with a bad taste in their mouth?

Yes, s/he is helping your business grow because they're freeing up your time to do "higher order" tasks like shore up JVs and so on. Fine. So in that respect, they're helping your business grow. Agreed.

But how much damage are they doing at the same time?

How do you know?

I was thinking about this the other day in relation to my day job. Our receptionist is young and cute and full of energy and, well, a walking stereotype of the ditzy receptionist.

I've had cause to be in and around the reception area a fair bit lately and I'm horrified at some of the stuff that comes out of her mouth given that she is the front-line image for the business.

I've never seen or heard her be rude to a client, but she doesn't seem to consider that people waiting to see whoever it is that they're there to see might actually hear all about her private conversations and the other asides she makes to the other gals who work on that desk.

And she's not exactly new there so it makes me wonder whether the boss has heard any of her clunkers. Clunkers that I, at least, figure must leave clients questioning the professionalism of the place -- even if everything else is run perfectly. I wonder how many people wonder about why she hasn't been told to be less inappropriate and what, in turn, that says about the culture of the company as a whole.

But who knows, I might just be having a momentary attack of the conservative grumpy old *******s tonight.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it.

Nothing a spot of fox-hunting, followed by a cognac and a cigar wouldn't assuage, I'm sure, old boy.

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I asked about a particular website-building software tool recently via that company's Helpdesk. The answer I got was less than helpful.

I asked if there was a demo that I could take for a test-drive. I wanted to look at the Admin interface and see what could be done with the templates.

The response I got was "Nope, no demo".

Now, I don't expect Customer Service to be kissing my arse and bending over backwards with a "Yes, sir, certainly, sir... absolutely, we'll get onto that right away sir!" attempt to win the Oscar for Best Supporting Obsequiousness... but I don't really care for flippant and unhelpful comments like that either, frankly. They do nothing to endear me further to the product -- even though it might well be absolutely 100% crackerjack and the hands-down best solution to my problem that money can buy!

No, siree. Instead, responses like that leave a bad taste in my mouth and the impression that Customer Support don't give a toss. Which then, in turn, makes me question what kind of tech support I'm likely to get in the event of a problem with installation or configuration, and so on.

Again, I might, in fact, get the best support team on the web. The guy who owns that software is, from all the contact I've had in the past, a genuine and decent bloke. (I can't imagine it was him who answered my ticket, but if it was, everything I say here still stands).

But if the Customer Support person -- the front-line contact person for your business -- is a tool, there's an extremely good chance that they're going to lose you my business. Forever.

And that I'm going to go out of my way to tell others to avoid your business too.

Am I alone on that account?

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It made me think of something... I have a friend who worked in hotels for years and years and years. He's been out of that game for a while now, but he still gets called up by his old buddies in the biz when he's in various places and offered a free night at XYZ hotel in return for some honest feedback on Operations.

He's asked to do all sorts of things: ask for extra this and that, make a fuss at the desk, call up room service at 2am, call up maintenance at 5am, and all this kind of stuff.

Then he writes up a report on how it was all handled.

Classic "mystery shopper" kind of stuff. But from someone who knows the biz inside and out.

Yeah, yeah, I know there's a fine line of trust to walk there. You need to trust your subordinates to do the job themselves otherwise you end up trying to do everything yourself because "if you want a job done properly, you've got to do it yourself".

Only workaholic, inferiority-complex-ridden morons who like running themselves into the ground believe that.

But you do have to ensure your staff are doing the job you've paid them to do in the way you want it done -- particularly if they have ANY sort of direct contact with your customers and clients!

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The converse is also true, but sadly it's not followed up on as often, I'd venture to say.

Whenever I get someone who provides outstanding customer service, I almost always tell them AND ask for their supervisor's contact details so that I can forward on a message saying how impressed I was with the way that person handled my enquiry and/or sorted out my problem.

Sure, they're just doing their job. I'm with Mr Pink all the way on the tipping madness debate. But if someone does an exceptional job -- just in the course of doing their job -- they need to be credited and recognised for that.

It's too easy to just complain when someone provided pants customer service and not commend the good stuff as well.

One person I'll straight up say provides some of the best customer support I've encountered in the IM niche is Adrian Ling's assistant, Robert. He's superb. Always prompt, polite, knows what he's doing... a total gem. If only I had 5 of him working for me!

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Anyway, now I'm just kinda raving on... so I'll go to bed.


But if you have Support Staff -- virtual or inhouse -- how do you know that they're doing their job in such a way that your customers and prospects are telling others how good your service and support are -- as opposed to eroding all the long-term advantages to your business of hiring them in the first place?


Worth considering, I reckon.

TheNightOwl
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    Am I the only person on the Warrior Forum who actually understands the implication of the word 'virtual' when related to the internet?

    A virtual assistant is a piece of software that can be programmed to appear to be human or have human attributes. If you have a virtual assistant damaging your business, IT'S YOUR FAULT!! You did not ensure the programming was correctly carried out!

    If you have a real, live, flesh and blood assistant and he/she is damaging your business, IT'S YOUR FAULT!! You failed to train them properly!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
      Originally Posted by artwebster View Post

      Am I the only person on the Warrior Forum who actually understands the implication of the word 'virtual' when related to the internet?

      A virtual assistant is a piece of software that can be programmed to appear to be human or have human attributes. If you have a virtual assistant damaging your business, IT'S YOUR FAULT!! You did not ensure the programming was correctly carried out!

      If you have a real, live, flesh and blood assistant and he/she is damaging your business, IT'S YOUR FAULT!! You failed to train them properly!
      You could be the only enlightened one or you could be dead wrong. Try typing virtual assistant into Google and see what comes up.

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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I asked about a particular website-building software tool recently via that company's Helpdesk. The answer I got was less than helpful.

        I asked if there was a demo that I could take for a test-drive. I wanted to look at the Admin interface and see what could be done with the templates.

        The response I got was "Nope, no demo".
        How is that answer less than helpful - if it's accurate? You asked "can I do this"? and they answered "no". Straightforward. No reason for them to get into a discussion of why you want a free demo - because they don't offer it.

        Hotels and other face-to-face service businesses routinely check their service to see how employees are handling service. But that doesn't relate to the example above. Hotel guests have already paid for the room and service.
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          How is that answer less than helpful - if it's accurate? You asked "can I do this"? and they answered "no". Straightforward. No reason for them to get into a discussion of why you want a free demo - because they don't offer it.
          My thoughts exactly...I don't see a problem with answering a direct yes/no question with a yes/no answer.

          I even think the use of "nope" shows they were trying to "stretch it out" a bit. I've done the same thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Burton
      Originally Posted by artwebster View Post

      Am I the only person on the Warrior Forum who actually understands the implication of the word 'virtual' when related to the internet?

      A virtual assistant is a piece of software that can be programmed to appear to be human or have human attributes. If you have a virtual assistant damaging your business, IT'S YOUR FAULT!! You did not ensure the programming was correctly carried out!

      If you have a real, live, flesh and blood assistant and he/she is damaging your business, IT'S YOUR FAULT!! You failed to train them properly!
      If a virtual assistant is only a piece of software, then it's interesting that virtual assistants have their own forums to discuss things

      Virtual Assistant is a term that evolved quite some time ago, with the 'virtual office' They are the "Virtual Office" Assistant. which in turn becomes virtual assistant. The virtual element is they operate in your virtual office, allowing you to utilize a person far removed from your physical location.

      Unfortunately, the term virtual also applies to software in many categories, and as such leaves plenty of room for disagreements and misunderstandings.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheNightOwl
    Heya Kay & Kurt

    Your response seems fair enough on the surface: I asked if they had a demo, they don't, they said so. The end.

    I thank you for bringing to my attention the fact that the point I was trying to elucidate was so unclearly focused at the beginning of the post that it might have been penned by Mr Magoo.

    @Kay: I was in no way, however, suggesting they needed to get into a discussion of why they don't offer a trial -- as your response implies.

    Also, you say that the point I go on to make about customer service is not relevant in this case because a brick and mortar store's customers have already paid. I disagree.

    Have you ever decided not to do business with a company (online or off) because something about the way your initial questions were handled, or ignored, or put in the too hard basket, or whatever... was not to your liking or left you worried about what kind of response you might get if you ran into trouble and needed help?

    Sometimes the product or service might be good, but if there's a comparable product or service and their front-line customer service reps are willing to handle my inquiries in a way that makes me feel like they value me even though I haven't yet spent money with them, then given the choice of the two companies, it's obvious, I think, which one most people will go with.

    (The corollary of which, I guess, is if you've got a monopoly on the market or your solution is well-regarded as being head and shoulders above that of your competitors, feel free to be as dismissive and flippant and all manner of other things of that ilk as you please! Ha ha!)

    @ Kay & Kurt, I don't know whether or not you agree with the point I highlighted in the previous paragraph, but the response I originally quoted ("Nope, no demo") doesn't make me feel like a valued prospect. Yet both of you say that that response was fine.

    In terms of its logic (as we've covered already) it was. Me: "Demo?" Them: "No."

    But in terms of the customer service, less so, I feel.

    You're right to point out that my post wasn't as clear about what I was raving about right from the outset as it should have been.

    I guess what I was really driving at was the tone of the response. And that's my mistake for not making that clearer to the reader.

    As I said, I don't expect silly bending over backwards support of the "Yes sir, no sir" variety. Maybe I really am a curmudgeonly old ******* (LOL!) but I find the response I got more than a little flippant and dismissive. Which, as i think I said, hardly endears me to the company.

    And that's such a shame. Your customer support staff (regardless of whether you want to argue about the semantics of "virtual") are the "front line" in your company's interpersonal image and I think they should be courteous, and encourage the prospect to explore further whether the solution you offer is what they're looking for. (And even if it's not, if the contact the prospect gets in his/her search is good, they are more likely to refer someone for whom that solution is a good fit, no?)

    Naturally, they should cut loose the terminally stupid and the demanding/arrogant swine, but what's wrong (in my example) with "I'm afraid we don't offer a demo, but if you have any questions about the features of [xyz-software], feel free to ask"?

    In my opinion, that rather small level of courtesy -- or its absence -- goes a long way, for better or worse.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
    Most good Help Desk software keeps ongoing records of communications for business owner / operators to review regularly. Just log in and check, revising operations with your virtual assistant(s) as you would phone answering and other public image - related tasks. Pretty straight forward practices in the business world, online and off, exist. In fact set up Standard Pre-defined Relies and FAQs on a regular basis to help with quality, repeat replies to basic questions.

    For example, with "Do you have a demo?" have a standard reply set up like many software sites do with a demo link and password access combo listed for the general public to use. List this in your FAQs section, too.

    Failure to run good operations isn't the fault of the worker, necessarily, breaking rules or anything. It could very well be the fault of a lack of standard practices in place. Instead of being so negative, jump in and fix regularly and grow as a team. That's what works best.

    Sidenote:

    No, VAs are not software. Think that was a play on words or joking in the original post. Hope so, anyway.
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