Article Submission with Blog Posts, rewrite or carbon copy?

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While I'm sitting here eating my animal crackers (never too old for animal crackers, and bullocks to those of you who say otherwise) and writing content for my website, I can't help but think about what I should do with these blog posts when I begin to submit them to Article Directories.

Is it important to rewrite the article?

Or is it practically the same thing to just directly submit the blog post?

Let me know your thoughts, I've read a couple of different opinions on this, but maybe there's some hardcore article marketers around that have different opinions.

Best,
-Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author JayVance
    Are you looking for traffic or SEO for your site when you submit an article?
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    • Publish them as is. The duplicate penalty has to do with duplicate content on your own site. The better way to look at it is you are syndicating your content across multiple channels. Use links back to your site to related content so readers will click through. If you are concerned about SEO, you should use different anchor text for the links pointing back to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Roncone
    I'm looking mostly for traffic but don't want to hurt my SEO.

    The anchor text bit makes some sense, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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    PassiveIncomeTeacher has the right idea here, but refer to this thread here to learn more about what you should do with your blog post. There's a lot of great threads on the matter, but this is a concise one I believe you'll find helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nicole7575
      Not sure how much it's going to benefit you. IMHO, not much at all

      If you check the Google trends for any article syndication sites, you'll observe their traffic dwindling downwards ( esp Post Panda update & subsequent iterations )
      So the traffic benefit is plummeting.

      The SEO benefit is miniscule too because your article mostly , quickly gets pushed into deeper pages / supplementals.

      I'd rather keep the best content on my own domain and look into guest blogging option on few high domain authority relevant domains.
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      • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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        Originally Posted by Nicole7575 View Post

        Not sure how much it's going to benefit you. IMHO, not much at all
        That's just it: you're not sure. Your assumption is incorrect though I have to say.

        Originally Posted by Nicole7575 View Post

        The SEO benefit is miniscule too because your article mostly , quickly gets pushed into deeper pages / supplementals.
        The SEO shouldn't be your focus at all. You're setting yourself up for failure if you base your business on SEO. You're only one algorithm update away from losing everything. And btw, the recent updates are awesome for us! So please stop with the misinformation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Roncone
      Originally Posted by TheRealDudeman View Post

      PassiveIncomeTeacher has the right idea here, but refer to this thread here to learn more about what you should do with your blog post. There's a lot of great threads on the matter, but this is a concise one I believe you'll find helpful.
      Thanks for the reference, there's a lot of good information there, and I seem to have missed that thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
    It's fairly okay to post your articles as is. However, I suggest you read first the guidelines of the article directories you plan to submit to. There are some that are very strict with the content of each article submitted to them. Some don't accept articles that have been published elsewhere. There are also others that easily accepts any article submitted to them.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author freelanceronline
    Its better to write some spun articles for your original article and post on those websites where they can't accept duplicate contents on internet. Its a good idea to use different Anchor text for it. Don't do fast SEO its blackhat. Increase link building manually slowly but accurate. And always know that Google always update with new Updates. So Whitehat still working after SEO for my many clients even Google published Penguin and no effect on my SEO clients websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author seanocoso
      Its very important to read the terms and conditions of the blog in question or at least email the editors regarding the this issue. Usually, its ok in most circumstances.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffreyBenson
    Well, you might as well try to spin them.. And resubmit them as well. Have you heard of spinning articles? That's cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author KickAss Marketing
    I would suggest rewriting them. Get an idea from the article and rewrite that way you won't feel guilty about it when submitting them.
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  • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
    Rewriting them would be my choice. By rewriting I didn't mean any automation tools.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    I am not an expert on this topic but the site Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog is by an expert. You will learn a lot there and I expect that some people commenting on this string will find it very educational as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by JeffreyBenson View Post

    Well, you might as well try to spin them.. And resubmit them as well. Have you heard of spinning articles? That's cool.
    It isn't cool - it's pointless nonsense which can have only a negative impact on the benefits of submitting them. It's based on a fundamental misunderstanding, and is entirely unnecessary, because article directories don't require previously unpublished content. If you think spinning is "cool", these six posts will help you: (i) This post explains the benefits of spinning; (ii) The first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles; (iii) The advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here; (iv) On the meaning and significance of "duplicate content", in this context, this little post from expert article marketer Anne Pottinger includes direct quotations from Google's WebMaster Central Blog on the subject (not easy to find a more authoritative source than that!); (v) This little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject; (vi) This post, and its links, explain how article directories really work and why they exist.

    Originally Posted by Mike Roncone View Post

    I can't help but think about what I should do with these blog posts when I begin to submit them to Article Directories.

    Is it important to rewrite the article?

    Or is it practically the same thing to just directly submit the blog post?
    No point in rewriting them other than in any cases where you have to make changes in order to comply with the article directory's editorial guidelines/submission policies.

    Don't expect huge benefits just from this, though, Mike. It's only "passive syndication". It helps you only when publishers/webmasters syndicate the articles from article directories, and the reality is that submitting to large numbers of article directories don't significantly increase the chances of that happening, once they're in "Ezine Articles".

    The "huge benefits" come from active syndication, described here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

    I think this post (and its links, and maybe post #6 of the same thread) will tell you most or almost all of what you need to know about submitting to article directories: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

    PS - Sorry, have only just seen: the thread to which TheRealDudeman just referred you will also be pretty helpful, I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Roncone
    Alexa --

    Very, very informative, and I thank you for all the reference links on top of it!

    So let me clear up really quick though, in terms of active syndication you are referring to using the articles to build up a list and bet on them re-using your content?

    I guess I'm a little confused on where the line is drawn. If I'm submitting to article directories, is that not accomplishing passive and active syndication? (in the hopes that they are re-publishing my content off of the directory)

    Or do you actively promote to your list and say "Here is my article, post it to your site too!" (over-simplified of course, but I think you can see my point)

    Your post was already very informative, I'm not trying to say that I didn't understand it, I just got my mind a little twisted there.

    Thanks,
    -Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Mike Roncone View Post

      I guess I'm a little confused on where the line is drawn. If I'm submitting to article directories, is that not accomplishing passive and active syndication? (in the hopes that they are re-publishing my content off of the directory)
      Strictly speaking, what you're doing is "passive only": you're putting them in EZA (or wherever) hoping that people take them and re-publish them (the "active" part). Approaching those people directly is "cutting out the middle man" and is a lot faster and more reliable. Of course, it's also a lot more work! But it builds relationships, which is what article marketing is all about.

      You can also build some relationships after successes with passive syndication, as explained in this post: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3188316

      Originally Posted by Mike Roncone View Post

      Or do you actively promote to your list and say "Here is my article, post it to your site too!" (over-simplified of course, but I think you can see my point)
      To your syndication-list of potential publishers, yes - exactly. As and when you build one. They're the people described in the first half of this post.

      ("Once they've taken one, they'll take more", and you can "turn them active".)

      And here are other ways of finding them: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6575732
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Roncone
    Once again, thanks Alexa.

    Article Marketing is actually without a doubt my greatest pitfall thus far, so it's great to get some direction from someone that makes it their priority.

    Looks like I've got some homework tonight,

    Best,
    -Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by aca2k2 View Post

    Never publish your blog post as it is to directories, always rewrite and publish in article directories. For better approval rate and link juice.
    Really not - this simply isn't so at all. Neither the approval rate nor the linkjuice would be affected by doing that.

    Article directories don't require previously unpublished content and from the marketer's perspective it would make little sense to submit it.

    The linkjuice arising from a backlink on a given page of the web is not somehow, magically, going to be varied according to whether or not the content to which it's attached has previously been published - that would be pretty strange.

    When you have time to read this thread, aca2k2, it may help you a lot: in it you'll find a whole succession of professional, successful article marketers explaining in great detail and at great length all their shared reasons for consistently doing exactly the opposite of what you advocate above: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Entertize
      Alexa....You rock. I wish I could compile all of your posts into a neat little book and have at reading them all day long. You provide so much value to the forum!
      You are appreciated (which I'm sure you already know).
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