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15 years ago

There is a learning curve involved in most things to do with the internet.

FTP is one of these things.

However, once you get it, it is really simple.

There are numerous websites that show you how to do this for free. Just do a google search on "how to ftp" or similar and you will soon see some help.

If you are a complete beginner try to make sure you use a simple FTP program.

Probably the easiest I've used is WS FTP by ipswitch. They have free and paid versions.

Other FTP programs include smartftp and filezilla. The later can be a bit harder to use but has many extra features which you may not use.

Anyway, there are many ftp programs to choose from.

The gist of it is that you enter you website log on details, your user name and password and if it is entered correctly you get "behind the scenes" access to the website.

On the other side of your screen (usually the left), you see the various files on your computer.

If you organise your files logically, they will be easy to locate and you simply copy them and the file structure of your website into the correct area inside your web hosting account.

If you are planning on selling sites, the easiest way is to buy a reseller hosting package at hostgator, about $20 a month. Doing it this way you can offload sites more easily.

You can host things cheaper but you will have less flexibility. You pay your money and take your choice.

I hope this helps.

Once you get how ftp'ing works (learning should take less than an hour at most) it is a lot of fun to see your own handiwork live on the internet.

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John Pawlett

15 years ago

Hi

May personal choice if I was to advise a total beginner would be to go for a host like Hostgator that has cPanel and use the file manager to ftp to your site.

I find it so much quicker than using software to ftp but I would still take the time to find out how to use the ftp programs.

John

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Bill G

15 years ago

Thank you. My bad experiences with ftp were with Bulletproof, Grabber and a few others 3 years ago. I messed around with them for a few weeks and got frustrated because sometimes they worked and sometimes they didn't. I just gave up and went another direction with my efforts for a few years.

I don't mind the $20 a month hosting but any other suggestions?

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Bill

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Dan C. Rinnert

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill G

My bad experiences with ftp were with Bulletproof, Grabber and a few others 3 years ago. I messed around with them for a few weeks and got frustrated because sometimes they worked and sometimes they didn't.

Can you, or anyone, be more specific about what types of problems you had with FTP software?

I see this question a lot, and I'm never quite sure how to answer people, because I've never had major problem with FTP so far as I can recall. The biggest problem I've had is with FTP programs that are a bit flaky, but the FTP process itself hasn't been an issue. I still prefer FTP to browser upload and the like. I guess it's become so second nature to me that I can't see the potential difficulties in it. Is the problem in configuring the software? Figuring out how to upload? Settings?

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webpagesrus 15 years ago

I use CoreFTP, have used it for years, very easy to set up and use.
Actually I have a short "how to" page I created to help my customers upload their free Website | Using CoreFTP To Upload Your New Site
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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Can you, or anyone, be more specific about what types of problems you had with FTP software?

I see this question a lot, and I'm never quite sure how to answer people, because I've never had major problem with FTP so far as I can recall. The biggest problem I've had is with FTP programs that are a bit flaky, but the FTP process itself hasn't been an issue. I still prefer FTP to browser upload and the like. I guess it's become so second nature to me that I can't see the potential difficulties in it. Is the problem in configuring the software? Figuring out how to upload? Settings?

Settings, settings and more settings error messages. ARGH! Just the thought makes me think of Michael's pistol collection.

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Bill

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Michael Motley

15 years ago

you could always just get cuteftp or another user friendly ftp program. it will make life a whole lot easier

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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

you could always just get cuteftp or another user friendly ftp program. it will make life a whole lot easier

Cute, Friendly, Good, Bad or Ugly. I don't care as long as they are easy.

Sorry Michael, I couldn't resist.

What are the 5 other simplest ftp programs?

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Bill

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Michael Motley

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill G

Cute, Friendly, Good, Bad or Ugly. I don't care as long as they are easy.

Sorry Michael, I couldn't resist.

What are the 5 other simplest ftp programs?

Best,
Bill

I couldnt tell say. I've used cuteftp (home) for 6-7 years. It really couldnt be much simpler. I have all my sites loaded up in the username/pw list and can easily hop between sites. I know if i didnt have it, there would be times that transferring files or even just updating sites would make me want to sort my pistol collection by taste.

Its only $35, well worth it in my opinion.

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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

I couldnt tell say. I've used cuteftp (home) for 6-7 years. It really couldnt be much simpler. I have all my sites loaded up in the username/pw list and can easily hop between sites. I know if i didnt have it, there would be times that transferring files or even just updating sites would make me want to sort my pistol collection by taste.

Thank Michael! That is the funniest thing I have heard all day.

And finding it hilarious is probably why I shouldn't have a pistol collection myself!

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Lloyd Buchinski

15 years ago

There is a simple option to ftp. I use the DirectAdmin control panel
but I think they all have a similar arrangement. You go to your files
and open the public folder. At the bottom is a button that says
"upload files to the current directory."

You click on that and then you can browse your desktop or where
ever you have them located. Then you select the files you want to
upload and click on upload. It actually works really well.

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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski

There is a simple option to ftp. I use the DirectAdmin control panel
but I think they all have a similar arrangement. You go to your files
and open the public folder. At the bottom is a button that says
"upload files to the current directory."

You click on that and then you can browse your desktop or where
ever you have them located. Then you select the files you want to
upload and click on upload. It actually works really well.

Hi Lloyd,

I seem to recall trying that method and it worked fine except it took forever. Was I missing something?

Still looking for good alternatives to HostGator. (and not GoDaddy):rolleyes:

Best,
Bill

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Lloyd Buchinski 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill G

I seem to recall trying that method and it worked fine except it took forever. Was I missing something?

I heard someone else say that who was a cpanel user and I guess maybe that is the problem? Don't know but with DirectAdmin the upload was as fast as with ftp. Maybe not exactly, I didn't time them, but didn't notice any difference. Also, my pages are pretty light.

A couple of really good alternatives to HG are hostpc.com (the one I'm using right now, DA control panel) and uberhost.net (choice of cpanel or DA). I'm probably going over to uber quite soon. Hostpc has unlimited domains for about a quarter the price of HG. The only reason I'm probably moving on is because their reseller accounts aren't the same bargain and have one problem that won't work well for me.

I really do like the DA control panel. At Webhosting talk it is as well thought of as cpanel and I am surprised that it is hardly mentioned here. It is well organized. I do use the list view in my folders and don't like the icons view. I haven't used cpanel yet but it looks like a messy kid's room.

I just noticed this "Most control panels only allow you to upload a limited number of files at a time."

With DA the default is 8 files but you can set it for more. I did it with 20 one time but don't know what the max is.

One difficulty I had with filezilla one time was that it was screwing up the log in. Fortunately I only had html and css files that time and copy and paste worked exceptionally well. Just one more alternative to ftp.
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Droopy Dawg

15 years ago

I use Windows folders to transfer files. Sure FTP Clients are great, but if you're used to copy/paste drag/drop, then connecting to your FTP via Windows folders is the way to go.

This is from my personal experience of course...

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Droopy Dawg

15 years ago

Hey Bill try this... and if it doesn't work for you then simply delete the folder.

I have no idea what OS you have on your development PC, but I'll give you quick and easy directions for setting your FTP on a Window XP machine.

Click Start
Click "My network places"
Click "Add A Network place"
Click next
Select Choose Another network location, then click next
Type in ftp://yourdomain.com then click next
Uncheck "Log on anonymously", then type in the username that you chose when you registered with your domain, then click next
Type a name for your network place... this is smiply the name of the icon to help you identify
Click Next, then Finish
A window will open to try to connect you to your server... access SHOULD deny you.

OR

A window will open with a username and password field. You should have your FTP username and pword info in an email from your hosting company.

Use this info and enter it into these fields. be sure to check the "save password" box

Click "log on"

You should see some folders now... according to you host... you'll either see a "www" or a "public" folder or something like that.

You now have an icon in your "my network places" that you can right-click/drag out to your desktop and create a shortcut.

Anytime you need to upload some files all you need to do is open the folder and make your transfer... whereas with FTP clients you'll need to login to the client, then specify folders... sometimes it gets painful.

Anyway... I hope this helps anyone that wants to know how to do this.

Enjoy!

DeShon

PS sorry for any typos I rush when I talk about this stuff

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Bill G 15 years ago

Just a quick FYI.

I was using XP at the time I was having problems. Now I have XP Pro on this laptop and Vista Premium on my desktop. I can even use my wife's Apple Powerbook G whatever with OS 10.9.9.9.9.9999.9 Snow Alligator if REALLY necessary.
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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg

Hey Bill try this... and if it doesn't work for you then simply delete the folder.

I have no idea what OS you have on your development PC, but I'll give you quick and easy directions for setting your FTP on a Window XP machine.

Click Start
Click "My network places"
Click "Add A Network place"
Click next
Select Choose Another network location, then click next
Type in ftp://yourdomain.com then click next
Uncheck "Log on anonymously", then type in the username that you chose when you registered with your domain, then click next
Type a name for your network place... this is smiply the name of the icon to help you identify
Click Next, then Finish
A window will open to try to connect you to your server... access SHOULD deny you.

OR

A window will open with a username and password field. You should have your FTP username and pword info in an email from your hosting company.

Use this info and enter it into these fields. be sure to check the "save password" box

Click "log on"

You should see some folders now... according to you host... you'll either see a "www" or a "public" folder or something like that.

You now have an icon in your "my network places" that you can right-click/drag out to your desktop and create a shortcut.

Anytime you need to upload some files all you need to do is open the folder and make your transfer... whereas with FTP clients you'll need to login to the client, then specify folders... sometimes it gets painful.

Anyway... I hope this helps anyone that wants to know how to do this.

Enjoy!

DeShon

PS sorry for any typos I rush when I talk about this stuff

Thanks DeShon. Definitely ideas worth a try.

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Aronya

15 years ago

I've been using FileZilla for years. Never a problem, and it's free.

Regardless of the app you pick, the only stumbling block you should have is plugging in a few bits of info about logging into your account(s), and the default directory to display. You should be able to get this info from your host. Do you not have hosting arranged already?

I'm in agreement with Dan C. Rinnert, above. What kind of trouble are you having?

Tim

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OK, so we were typing at the same time. I'd suggest you pick your application to use, then ask for help setting it up.

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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Aronya

I've been using FileZilla for years. Never a problem, and it's free.

Regardless of the app you pick, the only stumbling block you should have is plugging in a few bits of info about logging into your account(s), and the default directory to display. You should be able to get this info from your host. Do you not have hosting arranged already?

I'm in agreement with Dan C. Rinnert, above. What kind of trouble are you having?

Tim

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OK, so we were typing at the same time. I'd suggest you pick your application to use, then ask for help setting it up.

You are right Tim. I was hoping to choose a host account first, but it seems that Everyone uses Hostgator. If that is the case I will give cuteftp a try.

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Bill

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wealthwarrior

15 years ago

I would go with:

1. For flips use Godaddy to register domains - buyers trust Godaddy
2. Hostgator (HG) - if buyer gets an HG account, HG will "push" the site to them
3. Learn to use Filezilla FTP (my preferance, the are other free ones)
4. Install Wordpress using "fantatisco"

To smoothe out your learning curve:
(a) HG have online chat, operators are standing by
(b) Go to youtube.com and search on phrases like:

filezilla

addon domains hostgator

(c) use our WF search feature and get tons of free information, for flipping you will need to learn how to transfer a blog to a buyer's hosting account (not all will us HG)

Good luck!

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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by wealthwarrior

I would go with:

1. Hostgator (HG) - start out with baby hosting (a + b)
2. Learn to use Filezilla FTP (free) (b)
3. Install Wordpress using "fantatisco" (a + b)

To smoothe out your learning curve:
(a) HG have online chat, operators are standing by
(b) Go to youtube.com and search on phrases like:

filezilla

addon domains hostgator

(c) use our WF search feature and get tons of free information

Good luck!

Thank you. Simple and to the points. You covered everything and so simple that even a idiot could get started. And all along I thought Spidey was my hero!

PLEASE more condensed responses like this Warriors.

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Bill

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1bad55

15 years ago

Are you going to be rolling a lot of websites after you create them?

What you may want to consider is becoming a Host reseller through your host provider. I personally love Lunarpages (NO I AM NOT AN AFFILIATE)

because they are inexpensive, have great packages, and great support .

By becoming a reseller you can offer your website with a hosting account that if the buyer continues to use your hosting you will be paid every time they renew their hosting service.

This is a nice way to generate ongoing income for the sites you build and sell.

As for posting to hosts there are a million different ways and if you are going to be building sites and rolling them I suggest you pick a method that is easy for you and stick with it till you learn it.

Most control panels only allow you to upload a limited number of files at a time so I would recommend getting a free copy of filezilla and learn how to use it. They are not hard to learn just stick with it and you will be an expert in no time.

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Bill G

15 years ago

Originally Posted by 1bad55

Are you going to be rolling a lot of websites after you create them?
Yes

What you may want to consider is becoming a Host reseller through your host provider. I personally love Lunarpages (NO I AM NOT AN AFFILIATE)

because they are inexpensive, have great packages, and great support .
Sounds like a good idea.

By becoming a reseller you can offer your website with a hosting account that if the buyer continues to use your hosting you will be paid every time they renew their hosting service.

I was thinking of giving them that choice.

This is a nice way to generate ongoing income for the sites you build and sell.

As for posting to hosts there are a million different ways and if you are going to be building sites and rolling them I suggest you pick a method that is easy for you and stick with it till you learn it.

Most control panels only allow you to upload a limited number of files at a time so I would recommend getting a free copy of filezilla and learn how to use it. They are not hard to learn just stick with it and you will be an expert in no time.

OK. My possibilities are now cuteftp and filezilla as both have been mentioned numerous times.

Thanks!

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absolutelee

15 years ago

Personally, as a beginner, I would go with a webhost with cPanel. That's really easy to use. There are a ton of hosts, but the two I prefer are HostGator and BlueHost. I use HostGator a lot for sites I'm going to flip. I've used BlueHost for years now. They are both very responsive to questions. BlueHost has a good FTP program that's integral to their cPanel. I'm not sure about HostGator. If not, use FileZilla.

A lot of people use GoDaddy for a host. I don't. To my mind, they're harder to use. There so much darned advertising, it's difficult to figure out how to do things. GD is great for domains, but for a host, I think it's harder to use.

Hope this helps.

Of course, you could also use rentacoder and just find someone to do all your tech work for you. It's really not that expensive. PM me if I can help.

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