Over 4 Months, No Sale On Clickbank..And Adwords Disabled..Please Advise~

[Mrowlet]

Hi, Warriors...

I am sure you know I must feel absolutely discouraged and pathetic by now. I have tried so very hard. I cannot even get an email sign up. Not sale a single thing from ClickBank at fast n fit dot org, which is a spin off from my first failure: slimmywaist dot com.

I have taken advice..but not a thing has occurred but money spent..a lot of money..

Apparently, Adwords hates the entire site. I tried to add the disclaimer, as they told me to--but the email I received today is that all these products have poor ratings and for me to remove all the external links pointing to those sites!! They are all Clickbank products from Fitness.

Okay....so the bounce rate on the site is 50-89%. Not one visitor has spend more than 1 action, and usually remain for less than 10 seconds.

I have tried review, articles, ads...nothing works. I thought it was me, but after reading Adwords and how the sites are poorly rated--I think I have wasted months and money on a niche I have no business in.

I even tried tv-by-direct-sattellite.com from peerfly, with 7Search, and not a thing..I feel so discouraged and like an ultimate failure. I cannot afford to pay anyone anything...the fitness niche took all of my money. Thousands. I feel like such a fool.

That being said,

PLEASE---give me honest recommendation on what I can do. I have a peerfly account. I have Market Health.

What can I promote that will make money? How can I get in on Affiliate Marketing with Succcess?????






Tears are near.

[Jason Johns]

Hi there,

1) How much traffic are you getting per month to your site? If it isn't high enough, increase it with more SEO / paid advertising

2) If your visitors aren't staying (high bounce rate) that is because your site isn't relevant to them. Find out more about your target market, what they want / what they need and give it to them.

3) What are you offering people to sign up for your list? If they aren't signing up then it isn't something they consider valuable - change it.

4) If you've been told that the products you are promoting are low quality by adwords then stop promoting them and choose new ones. Do the products you promote convert? What's their CB gravity? Are they quality products? Just because a product is on CB does not make it a quality product.

It sounds to me like you've committed the cardinal sin of Internet marketing in that you've created a site and thrown money at it without trying to understand your niche and what they want.

My advice to you would be to stop spending money on the site immediately.

Then do some niche research - find out about your ideal visitors, what they want, what their problems are, and what they are visiting your site to find.

Then revamp your site yourself to take this in to account and promote quality products.

Having had a look at you site it is unfocused, poorly laid out and confusing. What's that clock thing at the top taking up valuable above-the-fold real estate? What point is it? How is it relevant to someone who wants to get fit? Why when I look at diet calculators is there an advert for male enhancement pills?

Your content is highly irrelevant to your target market and to be honest is confusing and full of distracting adverts.

Put your credit card away and refocus / redesign your site. Go check competing sites and see what they are doing. I'm not surprised your bounce rate is so high and your earnings are so low. When I visit your site there is NOTHING above the fold to make me want to stay or tell me what's in it for me when I visit your site.

If you sort it out and refocus it you may find it makes some money!

Good luck with it!

Jason

[tryinhere]

I think chin up might be the first thing, Your post is a little hard to understand but i am reading you promoted your site which is ? fast n fit dot org ? on adwords which has links to affiliate sites on clickbank ?

Anyway that site will never pass adwords as it is and to make it clear adwords and clickbank will most never mix 99.9% of the time, anyone telling you it does is wrong.

Adwords and clickbank have been oil and water for a long while now and especially health related or weight loss systems, these simply will not run on adwords.

Some vendors still peddle adwords as a medium to promote but stay clear.

So rather than worry about feeling down because you have made a few mistakes, take comfort in that most people here if not all make mistakes when starting out, and many are still making mistakes if you call them that, but a better term may be a learning curve.

Look up a guy called wollfmi ? here for some help with affiliate sales mainly with amazon but he has ( or used to have ) a guide that would help you set up a affiliate site for that.

Best of luck moving forward.

[flamewave]

Adwords can be a pain in the ass. The rules are not to protect the webmasters, its to protect the advertisers.

I would suggest looking at a different ad network to get some traffic to your site.

Do you have an email that you can talk on as I am worried that you may be throwing good money down the drain. I am also worried that in your state, no offense, you may be duped easy. my personal email is jasongriggs@techie.com I am here to help.

[Mrowlet]

Thanks, Jaosn. I emailed you.

[Mrowlet]

Yes, I did check on gravity, and these products are supposed to be strong sellers. I Tried to research my market, to find out what they want. I am not a natural seller of anything, to be honest.

I am not good at it. However, that is not why I am attempting affiliate marketing. The reason I am trying to make this work is because it does, without my efforts to sell anything. I need a product that sells itself.

Since I am the POOREST Salesperson I have ever had the misfortune to know, I need a product that speaks for itself. And CB is not the answer for me.

Obviously. And this site--I spend all my time on it trying to make it a site that relates to visitors. I have researched the niche. Obviously, I have failed at that.

Any product suggestions? I know that there is enough money to go around for all of us. I just need to be pointed in the right direction.

I am disgusted with the site. I am disgusted with Clickbank ebooks. I hate them both.

[travlinguy]

I looked at your site fastnfit.org. Ask yourself this. What compelling reason is there for anyone to take action, to do anything? There is none. You have absolutely no headline. You have some silly clock up there ticking away. So what. It's clear that the site has something to do with weight loss but what?

People have too many choices when looking for solutions. They're drawn to sites that guide them, that let them know what they're supposed to do. They're not willing to hang around some site trying to figure it out. You have to make it all very plain. Do that and you'll start seeing some results. Good luck.

[Bill Hugall]

Welcome to the first 4 months..... I would first of all suggest you have to have a shift in your thinking. You have failure written all over your words. Look at your location.
These are keywords you are using about your life that people see. Pathetic, no money, wish, . These are not words that are attractive to your potential customers. By the way your potential customers are on this forum. The fad these days is relational marketing. meaning that you need to be attractive to the people you come in contact with. If people see cheer, happiness and most of all confidence things will turn around for you.
Obviously that is not the be all and end all. So here are some tips that I hope help.

1.) Forget adwords.
2.) Get a squeeze page if you don't have one you are letting the vendors get all the emails you aren't getting. There is always a price to visit your site. A good content free offer on the front end and the back end thank you page leading to your affiliate link or page.
3.)Drive traffic free or otherwise. Not hard since you were willing to lose your shirt on Adwords. That is a good thing it fell through. You are not at that level so let's get you started with some solo ads that will lead to sign-ups. Not to mention find the good forums in your niche. Post 10 times a day in each. Make sure your posts are of high quality. If you don't have a signature option then you really need to make your posts special so people will check out your profile and follow the links to your squeeze page. That is a free method and combine it with solo's you will start seeing some results.
4.)Sales copy....... LEARN IT!!! It also belongs on your squeeze page. There is a ton of free content here on the WF for you to learn. You don't need to be a pro, but you will need to learn some.
5.)Sales funnel what does it look like.
6.)Testing testing testing

I would suggest you failures are not a lack of drive. They are simply a lack of knowledge and the wrong mindset. Your confidence will grow with the more you know. You simply need to press the reset button and start learning. My guess is that you bought a product . Probably your first one and got to it. GREAT JOB ON TAKING ACTION!!!! Let's simply back that with some easily acquired free knowledge and start getting you some results. You are on the right track and you have the desire so all that's left is education and application.

[SurrealPSD]

Quick question.. Are you a fitness expert? What are your credentials, what successes have you personally had, did you write the content on your site?

Sorry to be harsh, but how can you be regarded as an authority figure without confidently answering the above questions?

I am into fitness myself, and the site didn't appeal to me. Maybe working within a niche that you have passion for would help bring visitors to your site

[Janet Walker]

You need to build these types of sites in batches of 5 or more. One will always do better than the rest. Once you know which one works best then finish it out with lots of great useful content (30 pages or more) and lots of high quality backlinks. It is easier said than done but the method is sound and does work.

Clickbank does have the highest commissions but alot of competition to go along with it. You should try Commission Junction as it has the least competition. There is a great guide on it by the average genius called cj tactics or something like that which was a wso here on the wf. I am not associated with him in any way but i know what is great when I see it.

[Mrowlet]

Thank you for that information and inspiration.

I suppose that makes sense. I am an honest person... Very honest (to a fault), and fake smiles have never been something I am able to do--thus, I have never been able to sell anything unless it sold itself.

Well, maybe I should try just that--I was able to sell a laptop. It was my own. I got the price I wished for. I just stated the facts. It sold itself.

No need for "salesperson skills"...

Okay, Well~ I do feel better, believe it or not!

lol

Thanks, much~

Mariam

[WinstonTian]

From my experience, this sounds like a
problem with the keyword targeting. You're
probably bidding on the wrong type of
keywords. With bounce rates that high, I'd
assume two things:

You either have a mismatch of traffic
targeting to a wrong offer, or that you
simply have not learnt the art of "selling"
through words (copywriting).

Remember this sentence.

The battle is won before it is fought.

This saying by a great Chinese war general,
Sun Tzu, tells you a lot about the
importance of planning, strategy and
research.

A lot of brilliant advice are given by
warriors on top of my post - and you should
heed them. For example, understanding the
kind of people who want your offer, and
knowing where exactly to get them. It's
common sense, once you take it into
awareness.

Winston Tian

[JohnnyJM]

To be honest, the homepage of your site just looks like a page full of ads, because it is. That is very non-appealing to anyone, including people interested in fitness. I would think about what people see as soon as they get to your site.

I would also suggest putting the opt-in form at the top at the top of the page. Not many people are going to make it down that far.

Visuals are a big deal. Your top banner looks nice, and the navigation bar looks good as well. As for the rest of the homepage, think about what you would want to see if you were visiting fastnfit.org.

[TheWrightWords]

I would kill most of the home page ads (I am a primarily a writer, so this is simply my reaction as a potential visitor, not as a marketer).
I'd also look into pinterest -- there are some HUGE fitness/weightloss communities and boards with very, very dedicated followings that are likely your market. Throw up so boards with good, searchable terms and great info (not just yours, about 80% useful links and info from others) and build a following. Search "Thinspo" or "Weightloss" or "Fitness" on pinterest and you can see what the most popular types of pins are.

Hope this helps!

[jamesrich1]

Originally Posted by Mrowlet

Hi, Warriors...

I am sure you know I must feel absolutely discouraged and pathetic by now. I have tried so very hard. I cannot even get an email sign up. Not sale a single thing from ClickBank at fast n fit dot org, which is a spin off from my first failure: slimmywaist dot com.

I have taken advice..but not a thing has occurred but money spent..a lot of money..

Your mindstate dictates your results. You feel discouraged and pathetic and you are receiving those results. You are what you think. This pity me attitude is going to get you HORRIBLE results. You need serious work on your mindstate. Start reading books like Law of Success or you will continue this cycle of a victim mentality.

Second, your website gives the visitor NO incentive of taking actions. Put yourself in your visitors shoes and ask yourself would you click anything? I wouldn't. What advice have you taken? Make a top 5 product review site and test that out on paid and free traffic.

[shawnlebrun]

honestly, i'd be more surprised if you said you were making sales or conversions.

first thing I feel when I land on your site:

sales pitch. in fact, it's plastered with ads or banners.

in today's over-marketed world, where the average household sees over
3,000 sales messages a day, they simply toss, ignore, and delete anything that looks like a sales message.

Your page is full of clutter and what appears to be sales ads.

instant turn off for prospects who go online looking for information to help them... they're not looking to be sold to.

in fact, the clutter on your site is the single greatest obstacle to selling
your product effectively.

go to clickbank's health and fitness section and check out the top selling health and fitness section.

you'll see that most of those do not look like a sales message.

if your sales letter LOOKS like an ad, it will be skipped or ignored
as soon as it's recognized as such.

by making your sales letter look more like an article or editorial, that by itself will increase your response and conversions more than anything else.

look valuable, so it's much more difficult for your prospect to click away.

an editorial feel seems to offer the reader information of value. make your sales letter itself valuable, and not just a sales pitch

by itself, this is one strategy i use to rocket my conversion rate's

[Ethan Zammit]

I would try a different niche such as internet marketing. There are a lot of people out there looking to make money online. Make a site giving them tips on seo and offer product reviews on the site.

[BrianCorcoran]

I had a look at your site. You are too general, you need to get specific!

You can stay in the fitness niche but you have to concentrate on a particular product/keyword that has very low competition and has hungry buyers!

[Tim3]

You have got a lot of great advice here M, I will suggest something nobody else has mentioned yet, if you still have some money available use the Warriors For Hire section of this forum, and find someone with reasonable rates to copywrite a sales letter for you, or perhaps write a good review of the product.

Don't cry, it just stains your keyboard

[kindsvater]

It is virtually an automatic ban to use Adwords for ClickBank products. How many thousands have lost their accounts?

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[Gaje]

I've had a look at your sites from the perspective of an average visitor, and in all kindness, the only thing salvageable is the header on fasnfit. Here is what I would do if I were in your shoes:

I would spend the $25 needed to purchase a professionally-designed, content-filled, done-for-you blog from one of the many awesome vendors here on the Warrior Forum. This would free up all that energy and frustration surrounding the site in its current state, and give you something you could confidently work with. It would save a ton of work and would be well worth the 25 bucks. But I'd stop the spending there.

Instead, I would spend as much time and effort as possible driving traffic to the site using a plethora of completely free methods like those mentioned in the above posts. I would be busy editing and adding content, and honing my sales funnel. I would emphasize providing content and value for my visitors, and not overload them with ads. It's counter-productive, so I would only promote one or two products. I would keep testing and trying new things until the site becomes profitable.

Keep trying. I know you can do this.

[AmandaT]

Here are a few tips after looking at your site.

1. Hire a proofreader to go over your content or hire a good writer. You have a lot of errors that make it hard to read and your content just isn't engaging. Remember, there are tons and tons of fitness sites out there. You want to draw them in to yours!

2. Look at the design. It needs work. Look at other sites in your niche.

3. When I landed on the site I didn't see where the content was! I didn't realize I needed to scroll down because there wasn't any text or indication that there would be text there!

[koolphoto]

Your site reminds me of Times Square. Tons of advertising billboards. Lots of boring stores. I come looking for useful info first. If I learn something then maybe I would buy a product recommendation from you. I just can't get by the ads to find any info that would be useful to me. I think you need to tone the ads down so I can find the info.

Side note: Your site isn't mobile friendly. I just looked at it on my tablet and the mobile layout is pretty bad.




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