Why Do People Work For Free?

Adie

12 years ago

I want to be rich as well. Can you refer me to someone who work for free to help me with my goal?

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Walter Parrish 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

I want to be rich as well. Can you refer me to someone who work for free to help me with my goal?

It's called an affiliate program, but they do earn a percentage if they sell. The good thing is they promote and put your site's on the map.
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- Black Hat Cat Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Walter Parrish
  
  It's called an affiliate program, but they do earn a percentage if they sell. The good thing is they promote and put your site's on the map.
  
  Then they aren't working for free, are they?
  
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  Walter Parrish 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat
  
  Then they aren't working for free, are they?
  
  I'm to new to it to figure it out yet, backlinks weren't the same in the early days, but if people don't buy you may be getting those links and higher rankings so, they would be working for free.
  
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adamvanwildest

12 years ago

people have different definitions of "work"

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gcbmark20

12 years ago

This is a fantastic subject matter!

I suppose we all work for free in some shape or form from day-to-day.

Most of the time even without realising it I suppose.

This definitely something that we all should consider when using our time wisely or are we using it wisely enough.

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SeoDemon

12 years ago

i don't get it, does someone really works for free? can you give examples?

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Adie

12 years ago

There is no such thing as "working for free"...
People work without monetary involvement because they enjoy doing it.
Take note "they enjoy doing it for some personal reasons", so therefore they are getting something in return. Whether its psychological or mental advantage, they'll get it. So its not free....

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joaquin112

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Adie

There is no such thing as "working for free"...
People work without monetary involvement because they enjoy doing it.
Take note "they enjoy doing it for some personal reasons", so therefore they are getting something in return. Whether its psychological or mental advantage, they'll get it. So its not free....

Do you know the meaning of the word free?

By the way, I have always wondered why so many people contribute to projects like Wikipedia for example. I think it's human nature to want to belong to something big, bigger than ourselves.

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Adie

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joaquin112

Do you know the meaning of the word free?

By the way, I have always wondered why so many people contribute to projects like Wikipedia for example. I think it's human nature to want to belong to something big, bigger than ourselves.

I have some contributions in wikipedia with my local pages. The reason why people contribute for "free" is because, as I mentioned above, they love sharing and there's a lot of personal benefits from that.

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Ldimilo

12 years ago

Here's a possibility...networking potential.

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WiltonChu

12 years ago

Do you really know somebody who works for free? Or are what you're trying to say: they work for a pay that comes cheaper than what should they be receiving? Because in all honesty there is no work for free nowadays, unless you say its a scam...

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HN

Banned 12 years ago

I expected that most replies will be like, "I don't know about the others, but I never work for free! This is nonsense!" Rather predictable, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Adie

I want to be rich as well. Can you refer me to someone who work for free to help me with my goal?

You have 2,345 posts. How much have you been paid to post?

Originally Posted by Ldimilo

Here's a possibility...networking potential.

Good!

Originally Posted by joaquin112

Do you know the meaning of the word free?

By the way, I have always wondered why so many people contribute to projects like Wikipedia for example. I think it's human nature to want to belong to something big, bigger than ourselves.

Bingo!

Originally Posted by WiltonChu

Do you really know somebody who works for free? Or are what you're trying to say: they work for a pay that comes cheaper than what should they be receiving? Because in all honesty there is no work for free nowadays, unless you say its a scam...

If I was an owner of Youtube, Facebook or some forum, then from my perspective I'd have millions of people building my business and costing me not a single penny. Of course I would have paid employees, but they wouldn't have even been hired if I didn't have the free "workers".
Of course each person has his reasons to contribute and even make tons of money WHILE working for free. Confusing?
Look at the article directories. People are willing to submit content for a backlink, which in most directories is a "no follow" anyway. So they build your directory for a link that cost you nothing. There wouldn't even be a page to place this link on if the marketer didn't submit the article.

There are at least 4 ways to build your own business.

1. Do everything yourself
2. Hire someone to build it for you
3. Have a lot of people do it for free
4. It gets even better -- have someone to do all the work and even PAY you for the privilege of working for you.

How about #4? Don't tell me this is impossible, esp. if you thought #3 was impossible.

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Adie 12 years ago

Originally Posted by HN

You have 2,345 posts. How much have you been paid to post?

No monetary value but it's not free for the reasons below:

1. I am learning while I'm staying in this forum
2. I'm getting more customers
3. Somehow I'm helping other people and that's increases my self-esteem and self-confidence

So it's not free as I'm getting something back in return...
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Jandy

12 years ago

Originally Posted by HN

What's the point of this thread? Just to show that there are at least 4 ways to build your own business.

1. Do everything yourself
2. Hire someone to build it for you
3. Have a lot of people do it for free
4. It gets even better, have someone to do it for you and even PAY you for the privilege of working for you.

I have a drum roll awaiting for a few examples of #4.

I have some ideas, but I'm sure that my list is limited to my own mind.

(my thoughts lean toward my sig

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Walter Parrish

12 years ago

Originally Posted by HN

I expected that most replies will be like, "I don't know about the others, but I never work for free! This is nonsense!" Rather predictable, isn't it? Do we have our eyes wide closed? Don't we see the obvious?

War room membership?

Totally agree, I think if it weren't for Internet Marketing the net would be dead.

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ceenote100

12 years ago

When I started IM I guess you can say that I worked for "free" because I wasn't making any money back then. But I sure did learn a lot from it.

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711gemstone

12 years ago

Some people do it because they don't need money or care about money.

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johnathansmith 12 years ago

Never work for free, you will always learn something new that you can monetize in future. Of course problem is when you preferred working for somebody who don't give you enough money that you deserved. And instead of leaving the job, you stay and make somebody else rich for no reason. That's what i assume as Problem.
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fedor50

12 years ago

Because some people truly believe in good karma, and believe that by helping somebody else, they will be helped down the line.

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HN

Banned 12 years ago

Just an example. I see a lot of very easy programming tasks posted on freelancer. Some people are paying $150 or so, to fix a bug or get a simple script.
Now, I had a bug in my script that was driving me nuts. I wasted 2 hours trying to figure out what was wrong. I was even thinking of posting a job on freelancer, but before I did I posted it on StackOverflow. Guess what? I got the solution within 2 minutes. Not only that, but I had 3 people who provided the solution for free. Well it was free for me, but they had their reasons. They earned some "points" for fixing my problem. So you don't have to pay people money, you can offer them the points, medals, tokens, or silver and gold member status after reaching 10,000 post on forum. You get the idea. People have so many different reasons to work for free. It's been already written down 100 years ago by Napoleon Hill. In fact he even says "never hire a person who works for your money, but him who does it for the love of it."

Edit: BTW, I have noticed that at least two people (Joe and JaRyCu) have announced that they will take a break from working for free.

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fin

12 years ago

Originally Posted by HN

Edit: BTW, I have noticed that at least two people (Joe and JaRyCu) have announced that they will take a break from working for free.

I didn't know they worked for free.

I don't understand where you're coming from. Who in their right mind works for free.

If anything it will be for education, contacts etc.

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HN

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I don't understand where you're coming from. Who in their right mind works for free.
If anything it will be for education, contacts etc.

How much have you been paid to make 1500 posts? That you don't understand is that you are a free labor from the site owner's viewpoint. If I am a site owner, it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg when you make millions using my site. For me you are a free labor. I want to hire people for "free" and I want to understand why people work for free, that's the whole point. If they don't even realize that they work for free that's even better for me.

Originally Posted by fin

I didn't know they worked for free.

Then read the following quotes and check out the links

Originally Posted by JaRyCu

Every word you type on this forum or any other forum is one less word that you never typed in your own business. Every snarky comment (and yes, I've made quite a few!), every piece of advice, every anything you type here will help the WF's mission, but it won't help you.
-- j

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-thoughts.html

Originally Posted by JaRyCu

Addiction. This place has become an addiction for me. I'm wasting way too much time here, and it's taking away from my business. I don't have the luxury of having millions of dollars in the bank, so I can't afford to remain here any longer and give away information that I need to be implementing.

http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/ja...-break-wf.html

http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/jo...ouncement.html

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fin 12 years ago

Originally Posted by HN

How much have you been paid to make 1500 posts?

Oh dear. Do you charge people money when they ask you to pass them the salt?

Not everything is about money. I'd hate that attitude.
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- HN Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by fin
  
  Oh dear. Do you charge people money when they ask you to pass them the salt?
  
  Not everything is about money. I'd hate that attitude.
  
  One thing is helping out a friend the other thing is spending 1500 minutes in someone else's restaurant and pass the salt for free to everyone who asks for it. Will you spend 25 hours in my restaurant to pass the salt to strangers for free? I would love to hire you.
  
  I have got my answers. You can completely ignore the possibility of hiring people for free and do all your work yourself.
  
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ours

12 years ago

interesting topic and i can understand your thoughts. I agree with your 4 points HN. Yes people do those for FREE but they never think that way either they enjoy, or they learn or they also want to market to earn in long term. I guess, we all have some interest some are for long term some for sort term.

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johnathansmith

12 years ago

Have to say HN, you got the point. But reputation could be also monetize - very very well.

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contentwriting360

Banned 12 years ago

There is no such thing as working for free, at least perhaps, to most people.
People who work without receiving any monetary compensation are benefited non-monetarily. What are these non-monetary compensations? Let me know a few out of many.

1. fame
2. feeling of self-fulfillment
3. strengthened reputation

So, if you work by getting any non-monetary compensation, that's still not 'free' because you received something intangibly.

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Butazi

12 years ago

1. Build a resume / portfolio
2. Out of kindness (I've done so with SEO often). It just depends if I like the person or what their story is, and if I'm in the mood.

I have ADD so stuff like this helps keep me busy.

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John J M

12 years ago

A lot of what I do is "work" for free, but that's because I see tons of value in giving away what I know to empower others. The reality is that when I do this, I make money in the long run through relationships I build, so to me I'd rather give and make a lot long term than make a little short term.

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denysapu

12 years ago

Maybe they just do it for a certain period

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Reinie

12 years ago

I think the majority of people here are trying to make something for themselves and thus not make someone else rich

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Mary Davis

12 years ago

There are a few instances I can think of that make sense for a person to work for "free":

1. Internships -- to build skills and develop networking opportunities
2. Beginning a freelance career -- to build up samples & testimonials
3. Volunteering - to help out a friend or a cause

I think it's interesting you're focusing on the 'free' part, when in reality, working strategically without monetary compensation can be a very smart business move. While you may not be receiving money, you are getting compensated in other ways, such as gaining experience, getting samples and potential referrals, or contributing to a cause you believe in.

You just need to decide in advance how long you plan to work for 'free', and what deadline you'll give yourself to move on to monetary compensation.

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Randall Magwood

12 years ago

One way people work for free is trying to appear as a "guru" on the internet, all while their monthly income is less than $10/month.

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Topwriters

Banned 12 years ago

If there are people who are willing to work for free, then I assume that they won't be doing this for a long time, because they probably are doing it for experience only.

IF there are people who are willing to work for free, I'd love to meet some of them! Lol.

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jamesrich1

12 years ago

No body is working for free they are building the skills necessary to become successful. You cannot just snap your fingers and become a expert marketer you have to learn through trial and error. What you call free is the trial and error.

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Ebunbolu

12 years ago

You just spoke my mind....that just it..I work for free when I am bored or when I am looking for new experience or doing research, for example to prove that 99% of people work for free - some without even realizing it - and to understand how to use this knowledge to get people work for free for myself.

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HorseStall

12 years ago

Sometimes they will do it to build up a portfolio, learn an industry, another reason may be to build a network.

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dadadada 12 years ago

Define "work"
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- Gianni 12 years ago
  
  Maybe they do it to help people for a period of time.
  
  Some people are already retired, so they do not mind given their time away to help people.
  
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  cjreynolds 12 years ago
  
  I have always felt drawn toward helping others (probably why most of my jobs have been in customer support), but there's a great feeling and sense of peace that I get when I'm really able to help someone - Are my motives altruistic, or would I even do these things if I didn't get a 'buzz' out of it?
  
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  Walter Parrish 12 years ago
  
  Bottom line is if you're not making money and been at it for years, you are the FREE LABOR. I think HN was just being nice about it all.
  
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tomm

12 years ago

Maybe they are not working for free, they are simply paying back what they took for free. Like I got so many things for free on the internet that I feel like paying back somehow.

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easternodyssey

12 years ago

Hahaha, the wealthy internet marketer is the one who wrote the how to guide on internet marketing. Nobody ever works for free, its a service used in order to draw in consumers to the paid service.

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LorrieJean

12 years ago

I herd this once and find it true: "The ONLY person you can count on to work for free for an extended period of time is your mother" So, yes... People will help you, coach you etc. But, eventually everyone will want something in return. Except for your mother and that's only if you have a sweet mom!

Mine works for free on occasion not often though darn.

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therichb

12 years ago

We feel people are working for free just to learn & make their strengths more sustainable.... But in real, those who have the potential to work like this, they are actually building path to long term success in their lives....

In the present times, there are lots of ways to offer your services either free or by paid way, if you are skilled, money flows towards you without any problems...

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moneymakersguide

12 years ago

Some people work for free to build credibility or a portfolio.

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KickAss Marketing

12 years ago

I think we all work for free at some point not for others but for ourselves or for family. We work for free for our family and we even pay them because we provide for their needs. But does it really matter? What maters is we are able to look after them and provide for their needs.

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cbader

12 years ago

Hmm, good question. I'm actually helping a friend with his construction business by helping him setup a wordpress site. I suppose I could charge him, but I figure I'd just call on him one day when I need some advice.

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paulie

12 years ago

I think that while working for free is all well and good we are developing our skills as we go along. So we should not feel bad in any way about charging accordingly once those skills start to be developed. Being paid for quality work is a wonderful thing. And lets face it we all have to eat.