might this be why clickbank aff links aren't paying?

David · 03-15-2009, 01:24 AM

I've been seeing posts here complaining about affiliates not getting accurately credited with aff sales on clickbank.

There's been banter back and forth about who's at fault

I just saw this post from Matt Cutts's twitter and it looks like people simply clearing cookies is why we aren't getting the sales we earned?

From Cutts' twitter:

'Member when Google made an open-source plugin to stop interest-based ads? Soghoian extended it to other ad networks: Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out (TACO)

which points to: Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out (TACO)

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A large number of commercial companies now track users' browsing across the web, in order to profile them, and then serve them targeted advertising. This so called behavioral advertising is a threat to the average user's privacy.

An industry group, The Network Advertising Initiative, provides an easy way for users to opt-out of the tracking performed by its member companies. Users can visit a single web page, and then easily set opt-out web cookies for all of the NAI members advertising networks.

The problem with this is that the moment a user clears his or her cookies, they also lose the opt-out cookies. Regularly clearing browser cookies, or better, setting the browser to erase them all at the end of a session, is a recommended practice. Unfortunately, by doing this, users are then required to re-visit the NAI opt-out page each time they start browsing the web. This is obviously not a reasonable thing to expect.

I'm probably missing out by not promoting affiliate products very much but it would sure piss me off to think I did all that work and someone else was getting paid...

William B · 03-16-2009, 12:36 AM

I've never done much with affiliates but when I do, I avoid any product whose sales page contains an opt-in form, or an opt-in form that pops up.

I just can't see driving my traffic to a guys page and he gets to build his list. Then in his email follow ups, he sells the product and I get no commission.

Black Hat Cat · 03-16-2009, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William B

I've never done much with affiliates but when I do, I avoid any product whose sales page contains an opt-in form, or an opt-in form that pops up.

I just can't see driving my traffic to a guys page and he gets to build his list. Then in his email follow ups, he sells the product and I get no commission.

Not unless he's overwriting your cookies. If your cookie is still present, you get credit for the sale, and if he's following up with subscribers, you have a better chance of getting a commission.

As for the op's idea, if cookie clearing were the problem, it would be a problem for every network that uses cookies, not just Clickbank.

AlexKaplo · 03-16-2009, 02:05 AM

Hey there William,

You should actually be glad when the traffic you send to a person's site actually opt-in. Statistic show that they are 10x more likely to buy after a few followups... 7-10 to be exact.

Sure the owner of the website will build hes mailing list but that's Affiliate Marketing... (unless you build a list in a squeeze page before sending the traffic)...

Alex Kaplo

03-15-2009, 01:24 AM	#1
David Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Frederick, Maryland, USA. Posts: 993 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 290 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	might this be why clickbank aff links aren't paying? I've been seeing posts here complaining about affiliates not getting accurately credited with aff sales on clickbank. There's been banter back and forth about who's at fault I just saw this post from Matt Cutts's twitter and it looks like people simply clearing cookies is why we aren't getting the sales we earned? From Cutts' twitter: 'Member when Google made an open-source plugin to stop interest-based ads? Soghoian extended it to other ad networks: Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out (TACO) which points to: Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out (TACO) ==== A large number of commercial companies now track users' browsing across the web, in order to profile them, and then serve them targeted advertising. This so called behavioral advertising is a threat to the average user's privacy. An industry group, The Network Advertising Initiative, provides an easy way for users to opt-out of the tracking performed by its member companies. Users can visit a single web page, and then easily set opt-out web cookies for all of the NAI members advertising networks. The problem with this is that the moment a user clears his or her cookies, they also lose the opt-out cookies. Regularly clearing browser cookies, or better, setting the browser to erase them all at the end of a session, is a recommended practice. Unfortunately, by doing this, users are then required to re-visit the NAI opt-out page each time they start browsing the web. This is obviously not a reasonable thing to expect. I'm probably missing out by not promoting affiliate products very much but it would sure piss me off to think I did all that work and someone else was getting paid...
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03-16-2009, 12:36 AM	#2
William B Stock Locater Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking	Re: might this be why clickbank aff links aren't paying? I've never done much with affiliates but when I do, I avoid any product whose sales page contains an opt-in form, or an opt-in form that pops up. I just can't see driving my traffic to a guys page and he gets to build his list. Then in his email follow ups, he sells the product and I get no commission.
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03-16-2009, 02:05 AM	#4
AlexKaplo HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 236 Thanks: 19 Thanked 38 Times in 18 Posts	Re: might this be why clickbank aff links aren't paying? Hey there William, You should actually be glad when the traffic you send to a person's site actually opt-in. Statistic show that they are 10x more likely to buy after a few followups... 7-10 to be exact. Sure the owner of the website will build hes mailing list but that's Affiliate Marketing... (unless you build a list in a squeeze page before sending the traffic)... Alex Kaplo