Affordable 1 on 1 coaching programs with real people

by TTF
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Are there any affordable coaches or mentors out there with a proven track record? Better still any performance based coaches?

I've read a million and one guru guides, ebooks etc on IM but still struggle to grasp some of the basic elements such as product selection. The truth is there are too many conflicting guides, outdated information and product pushers touting the next shiny object to know which plans to follow.

I'm tech savvy, can build wordpresss sites fairly easily and handle all on site seo. I'm very hard working and run a bricks and mortar business but want to start earning revenue form additional sources. I'm looking for businesses I can build to last, not rip people off with grab the money and run schemes and not really looking to get involved in the make money online niche as I don't feel qualified to preach what I don't yet practice (even if many "guru's" seem comfortable to do so).

Forums and member groups sound a bit too hands off in my opinion as there is nobody to answer to, no accountability and nobody to correct me on small but possibly crucial mistakes I may make along the way. In an ideal world it would be great to work on part of some performance related package where the coach / mentor earned all of the profit earned on the sites that were built as part of the training. eg

Coach teaches product selection.
Instructs me what websites to set up, what content to add and how much.
Coach trains and instructs other elements of the affiliate marketing and sales process inc list building and email marketing etc

I would pay for hosting, links and other project expenses etc. Revenue would first of all pay off the expenses incurred but any profit would be paid to said coach.

Lets say the hosting and link building etc cost £300 for 3 sites. The sales were £1000. That means the coach would earn £700.
*Obviously these figures are just spurious for examples sake.

Am I asking too much or being unreasonable to expect a performance related service?
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Smale
    You're not going to find a coach who will work for free, as there are too many variables they can't control.

    95% of people reading the WSO forum or looking to make money in general will probably never make a dollar online as they don't take action.

    It's only worthwhile for the coach if they get paid upfront and this also means the person being taught will be more likely to follow through and make money.

    If they've made no investment in the coach, what guarantees are there they will ever do anything?
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  • Profile picture of the author TTF
    I totally appreciate that viewpoint Thomas and for that reason it would make it necessary for the coach and trainee to talk and evaluate each other on a professional level. The owness is then on both parties to succeed.

    On the flip side from what you said there are tons of ""guru's" and "coaches" who simply won't deliver. Some just don't have enough knowledge and experience and others never intended on doing much past taking your money. Sure they may regurgitate some facts and figures from a guide they bought once and maybe made a couple of quid but that by no means makes them an expert worth $100-200 per hour I'm sure you'll agree.

    That's why I feel there has to be some accountability, all be it from both sides. Don't you agree?
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  • Profile picture of the author braincandy7
    I'm afraid you will have trouble getting anyone to coach/mentor you without any sort of upfront payment.

    The reason is that no matter what I teach and suggest there is no guarantee that you will do it exactly as suggested. Also there is in the IM business almost no way you can guarantee success unless you do it yourself.

    "Lost in translation" is relevant when teaching. No matter how well you teach and how smart the student is everything is diluted b pre conceptions, bias other outside influences, mood on the day, and motivation levels.
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  • Profile picture of the author andynathan
    Thomas,

    While we are at this example, I need 1,000 brochures. I see you are a print broker. How about you create and print the brochures first. If I make money from them, then I will pay you. Sound fair, because that is what you just asked?
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    • Profile picture of the author TTF
      Originally Posted by andynathan View Post

      Thomas,

      While we are at this example, I need 1,000 brochures. I see you are a print broker. How about you create and print the brochures first. If I make money from them, then I will pay you. Sound fair, because that is what you just asked?
      Hey Andy,

      Not been on here for a while. I'm afraid your response is flawed. In one of my businesses I broker print - correct. That means clients come to me to save time and money on buying their print. I go to a lot of effort specifying and re-specifying jobs. Evaluating different ways to produce the job, tendering it to the relevant suppliers. Sometimes the jobs are not even live, they are considerations. I do all this without being paid. IF the job goes live and IF I have submitted the best proposal (based on price and other factors) I win the order. So In answer the your question - YES I do work in this manor. I rarely get involved in the marketing or design side of these projects so I would not have control over whether the campaign was successful or not. However if I were managing these aspect as well then dam right I should have some accountability. As should any marketing company IMO.

      @ bilkat19 and braincandy7. I hear you load and clear and agree to some degree. I wouldn't expect a coach to take on anyone willy nilly. They would need to interview and evaluate the person and based in the same way a trainee should evaluate a potential coach. I take on board that there are a lot of people looking to grab cash fast without putting in real work or effort but 10 minutes talking to me and you would see that's not the person I am. On the other side of the fence I would say there are just as many "Coaches" that offer "Guarantees" and no fail systems without any substance to back it up.

      I'm happy to say that another warrior member replied by PM and has kindly taken the time to give me some clear guidance and help me start off. Hopefully the break I need.

      Thanks all for dropping by.
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      My "day to day job" is a print broker in the UK. If you need print as part of your marketing then I can SAVE YOU MONEY. Put me to the test - If I can't save you anything (which I seriously doubt) then you don't use me and don't pay me a penny - Simples!

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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    No one in their right mind would ever get you started and allow you to pay them basaed on what you make. Most people will say scam or guru and move on to the next shinny object. Buyers are like the products. Some work, most don't , and there are the ones that would work if only action was taken, but for some reason that Aweber set-up video looked to long and complicated. So off to the next Product that "doesn't work".

    Imagine being a coach who makes great money online and then you decide to just start working with these types, and get paid based on their results....... Wow you would go broke. Most people looking to make money online are not ready for success in their minds when they start out. So they jump around "trying" and hoping this one will work.

    Would you coach someone and get paid based on their performance knowing this. No you would not.

    By the way I am sure most people have had this idea at some point in their IM journey's.
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  • Profile picture of the author SasaIlic
    You will need to pay coaches to coach you this is their job and you are taking part of their time and no one will do it for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexyew
    Originally Posted by TTF View Post

    Are there any affordable coaches or mentors out there with a proven track record? Better still any performance based coaches?

    I've read a million and one guru guides, ebooks etc on IM but still struggle to grasp some of the basic elements such as product selection. The truth is there are too many conflicting guides, outdated information and product pushers touting the next shiny object to know which plans to follow.

    I'm tech savvy, can build wordpresss sites fairly easily and handle all on site seo. I'm very hard working and run a bricks and mortar business but want to start earning revenue form additional sources. I'm looking for businesses I can build to last, not rip people off with grab the money and run schemes and not really looking to get involved in the make money online niche as I don't feel qualified to preach what I don't yet practice (even if many "guru's" seem comfortable to do so).

    Forums and member groups sound a bit too hands off in my opinion as there is nobody to answer to, no accountability and nobody to correct me on small but possibly crucial mistakes I may make along the way. In an ideal world it would be great to work on part of some performance related package where the coach / mentor earned all of the profit earned on the sites that were built as part of the training. eg

    Coach teaches product selection.
    Instructs me what websites to set up, what content to add and how much.
    Coach trains and instructs other elements of the affiliate marketing and sales process inc list building and email marketing etc

    I would pay for hosting, links and other project expenses etc. Revenue would first of all pay off the expenses incurred but any profit would be paid to said coach.

    Lets say the hosting and link building etc cost £300 for 3 sites. The sales were £1000. That means the coach would earn £700.
    *Obviously these figures are just spurious for examples sake.

    Am I asking too much or being unreasonable to expect a performance related service?
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