BE Warned - Forget About Trying PLR on Kindle (KDP)

Profile picture of the author Jim M by
Hi Folks,

I know there have been many versions of what you should and shouldn't do on kindle - this just happened yesterday - so it's fresh info..

I, like many here have more than my fair share of plr stuff on my hard drive, so I decided to extensively rewrite and publish one of them....

I made a completely new cover, re did the contents, which were actually a compliation of seven reports and I added two more chapters...... the result...

Within a few hours I got a response asking me why I was publishing content which was freely available online, and asking me to prove what right I had to publish it.....

I responded suggesting that much of what is published is freely available online, and that someone has taken the time to research, compile, design cover etc. I also had to produce the licence I was given, you know - the pdf file with plr rights etc.... otherwise they wanted details of all the websites I had taken this information from!!

I posting the response below....

"Please be advised that you must hold exclusive publishing rights for books that closely match content that is freely available on the web. If your catalog continues to contain books that fail to comply with these conditions or do not meet our Content Guidelines, your account may be terminated."

they also gave me a link to their Content Guidlines....

"Public Domain and Other Non-Exclusive Content
Some types of content, such as public domain content, may be free to use by anyone, or may be licensed for use by more than one party. We will not accept content that is freely available on the web unless you are the copyright owner of that content. For example, if you received your book content from a source that allows you and others to re-distribute it, and the content is freely available on the web, we will not accept it for sale on the Kindle store. We do accept public domain content, however we may choose to not sell a public domain book if its content is undifferentiated or barely differentiated from one or more other books"

I hope you find this useful - and it keeps you on the right side of KDP - on the upside, at least they didn't shut me down

Jim M
#internet marketing #forget #kdp #kindle #plr #warned

  • Profile picture of the author petemcal
    Thanks for the info, I'm not a kindle publisher myself but it's interesting to hear about how they actually go about enforcing these rules etc.

    Back to the drawing board I guess, good luck for your next launch!
  • Profile picture of the author Jim M
    Originally Posted by petemcal View Post

    Thanks for the info, I'm not a kindle publisher myself but it's interesting to hear about how they actually go about enforcing these rules etc.

    Back to the drawing board I guess, good luck for your next launch!

    Thanks.... I already run another publishing company, this was more of an experiment to see if I could use any of the stuff I've accumulated..... just thought I'm sure many are considering what the use do on kindle, looks like even well re-done stuff will be difficult to get past them.
  • Profile picture of the author 100KAffiliateManager
    Amazon cracked down on publishing PLR on kindle a while back. Not surprising really, as there were tons of identical PLR books (just different covers and authors). It's best to use completely original content now otherwise you stand a good chance of having your account closed.

    I had a few books up at the beginning of last year (rewritten content) and some did quite well but when Amazon decided to get tough the books were kicked out - got a response similar to your. Now I only publish original content, very small scale at the moment though.

    At least they do give you a warning and explain what the issue is so that you can rectify the situation. All in all, I think that it was an excellent decision on Amazon's part.

    Chow chow,
    Kevin
  • Profile picture of the author GAVROCHE
    Jim, your post will help a lot of people thinking of starting to publish on Kindle.

    Newbies should know that Amazon started to take action against PLR in 2011 (Oct if I remember well...) which is great, Google is on his way to do the same, anyone without original content will be penalized.
    PLR can be useful for Kindle publishers only as a source of information to write something different using several PLRs and other sources.
    Public domain available on digital form online should be avoided too.
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Wolfe
    Wow Amazon must've teamed up with Google
  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    About flippin Time!

    Will
  • Profile picture of the author Robert H Cwik
    Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

    About flippin Time!

    Will
    Paradigm shift!
  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    Good info for newbies to Kindle. Writing books take work, and you either are willing and able to do that work yourself, or you'll need to find a quality writer and pay them to produce original books for you. These are the only two options for those wanting to make Kindle their main business opportunity.
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    I'm sorry. This isn't meant to target anyone but just a social commentary.

    Why must marketers try and junk up everything they enter? Frankly I wouldn't even have thought of trying to submit PLR and Amazon shouldn't even need to explain. This isn't some website or blog thing. This is what is the present and future of book publishing. Being an author used to be and for many people still is a thing of respectability.

    Quote from sources, the internet is at your finger tip to do all kinds of research. Previous generations would have killed to be able to learn and become nearly experts on almost anything while sitting in their jammies at home. For the love of some standards write your own stuff whenever you say you are writing a book regardless of why you are writing it and regardless if its $10 or free.

    Don't take the crappy we can put up anything when marketing to the book publishing world too. There are some things that though not sacred should be close to it.
  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    PLR lovers, time to find new marketplace.
  • Profile picture of the author Amy Harrop
    PLR can be great for research, and you can certainly use it as a starting place for your organizing, outlining and writing of unique content. It doesn't need to be discarded simply because you cannot use it as is.

    If you want to publish to the Kindle, everything you submit should be unique. It's always good to run your content through Copyscape, particularly if you are getting your writing outsourced.
  • Profile picture of the author HelpingYouBeAnExpert
    it sucks! I think with my bad grammer and spelling I will not have this problem, lets see I'm about to put my first kindle out can't wait to see why they will ban me!
  • Profile picture of the author Mary Davis
    PLR can be a great resource to create your own free reports or bonus products, but not for Kindle.

    This is another example of how important it is to know your marketing platform and their terms of service. Glad they at least give you a warning first.
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
    There were a bunch of WSO's and low cost products that were sold to show people how to load PLR books up by the ton to Amazon and the marketplace got inundated with that and then inundated with complaints about duplicate content. And Amazon needs customers.

    They don't particularly care whether you bought Marketer A's course on how to "Reduce Amazon To A Sniveling Puppy" or whatever macho name is put on it, they have an authentic business that they built.

    Interestingly, many people who market products and services off the Warrior Forum do very well in a number of areas witout ever getting their products or services slapped. It is not about being a good or a bad marketer, it is about the perception that you are willing to project into the world. If someone insists on trying to build a business based on loopholes, and secret tricks and backdoors to instant wealth, like mass uploading PLR books to Amazon, that says a lot about their business model.

    I have no issue with PLR, I have sold a bunch of it. But if you want sell books in a marketplace where people are looking to buy information your information needs to be unique or at lest presented in a unique way.
  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    KDP just recently closed shop on merchants who were selling PLR. But, there's alot of money to be made from using your products and selling them on your website. Not sure if Smashwords works in the same way.
  • Profile picture of the author aroth
    I'm glad they did, marketers will kill the marketplace loading it with crap PLR. Thank you kindle.
  • Profile picture of the author Cali16
    Personally, I'm glad Amazon is not allowing people to sell repackaged PLR as Kindle books. It's a good reminder for those Internet marketers who prefer to be lazy and take every possible shortcut just to make a fast buck.

    I understand the argument that someone took the time to research and compile information (obtained from other sources) so it's all in a nice package for the benefit of the reader. However, to sell it as your own work (not aiming this at the OP) still isn't okay, and I think that's the issue here.

    There's a lot of opportunity with Kindle, but what you sell there should be unique; not rewritten or repackaged public domain stuff or PLR. But doing so takes a lot of time and effort (or money to hire someone else to write it for you). And many people don't want to make that kind of investment.

    Kindle has been yet another money-making venue quickly exploited by Internet marketers. Kudos to Amazon for setting some clear boundaries to help prevent such exploitation.
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
    Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

    Personally, I'm glad Amazon is not allowing people to sell repackaged PLR as Kindle books. It's a good reminder for those Internet marketers who prefer to be lazy and take every possible shortcut just to make a fast buck.

    I understand the argument that someone took the time to research and compile information (obtained from other sources) so it's all in a nice package for the benefit of the reader. However, to sell it as your own work (not aiming this at the OP) still isn't okay, and I think that's the issue here.

    There's a lot of opportunity with Kindle, but what you sell there should be unique; not rewritten or repackaged public domain stuff or PLR. But doing so takes a lot of time and effort (or money to hire someone else to write it for you). And many people don't want to make that kind of investment.

    Kindle has been yet another money-making venue quickly exploited by Internet marketers. Kudos to Amazon for setting some clear boundaries to help prevent such exploitation.
    By the time the systems to upload tons of stuff to Amazon came out for public sale, the PLR idea on Kindle was already dying. That is why the idea got shut down so quickly right after the products came out. And then when the second wave of PLR Kindle copycat products came out, it was really dead.
  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Guys this has been going on since late last year at least.

    Even heavily edited PLR, it's a no go on Kindle and for good reason.

    Old news here, just someone who's come across it for the first time. No offense to the OP Jim M, of course.

    About time?

    No, it's already been going on...if you want to be a part of the most powerful book/ebook marketplace in the world, come up with original, unique content. Simple.
  • Profile picture of the author 512 Designs
    If you completely rewrite a PLR product and it looks nothing like the original, how is it still PLR? Isn't it now new and unique with your own copyright?

    How does Kindle even know it was originally PLR if you did a complete re-write with a new title and graphics?

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