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Unread 18th August 2012, 02:38 AM   #1
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Hi Folks,

I know there have been many versions of what you should and shouldn't do on kindle - this just happened yesterday - so it's fresh info..

I, like many here have more than my fair share of plr stuff on my hard drive, so I decided to extensively rewrite and publish one of them....

I made a completely new cover, re did the contents, which were actually a compliation of seven reports and I added two more chapters...... the result...

Within a few hours I got a response asking me why I was publishing content which was freely available online, and asking me to prove what right I had to publish it.....

I responded suggesting that much of what is published is freely available online, and that someone has taken the time to research, compile, design cover etc. I also had to produce the licence I was given, you know - the pdf file with plr rights etc.... otherwise they wanted details of all the websites I had taken this information from!!

I posting the response below....

"Please be advised that you must hold exclusive publishing rights for books that closely match content that is freely available on the web. If your catalog continues to contain books that fail to comply with these conditions or do not meet our Content Guidelines, your account may be terminated."

they also gave me a link to their Content Guidlines....

"Public Domain and Other Non-Exclusive Content
Some types of content, such as public domain content, may be free to use by anyone, or may be licensed for use by more than one party. We will not accept content that is freely available on the web unless you are the copyright owner of that content. For example, if you received your book content from a source that allows you and others to re-distribute it, and the content is freely available on the web, we will not accept it for sale on the Kindle store. We do accept public domain content, however we may choose to not sell a public domain book if its content is undifferentiated or barely differentiated from one or more other books"

I hope you find this useful - and it keeps you on the right side of KDP - on the upside, at least they didn't shut me down

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Thanks for the info, I'm not a kindle publisher myself but it's interesting to hear about how they actually go about enforcing these rules etc.

Back to the drawing board I guess, good luck for your next launch!

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Thanks for the info, I'm not a kindle publisher myself but it's interesting to hear about how they actually go about enforcing these rules etc.

Back to the drawing board I guess, good luck for your next launch!

Thanks.... I already run another publishing company, this was more of an experiment to see if I could use any of the stuff I've accumulated..... just thought I'm sure many are considering what the use do on kindle, looks like even well re-done stuff will be difficult to get past them.

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Amazon cracked down on publishing PLR on kindle a while back. Not surprising really, as there were tons of identical PLR books (just different covers and authors). It's best to use completely original content now otherwise you stand a good chance of having your account closed.

I had a few books up at the beginning of last year (rewritten content) and some did quite well but when Amazon decided to get tough the books were kicked out - got a response similar to your. Now I only publish original content, very small scale at the moment though.

At least they do give you a warning and explain what the issue is so that you can rectify the situation. All in all, I think that it was an excellent decision on Amazon's part.

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Jim, your post will help a lot of people thinking of starting to publish on Kindle.

Newbies should know that Amazon started to take action against PLR in 2011 (Oct if I remember well...) which is great, Google is on his way to do the same, anyone without original content will be penalized.
PLR can be useful for Kindle publishers only as a source of information to write something different using several PLRs and other sources.
Public domain available on digital form online should be avoided too.
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Wow Amazon must've teamed up with Google
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Good info for newbies to Kindle. Writing books take work, and you either are willing and able to do that work yourself, or you'll need to find a quality writer and pay them to produce original books for you. These are the only two options for those wanting to make Kindle their main business opportunity.

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I'm sorry. This isn't meant to target anyone but just a social commentary.

Why must marketers try and junk up everything they enter? Frankly I wouldn't even have thought of trying to submit PLR and Amazon shouldn't even need to explain. This isn't some website or blog thing. This is what is the present and future of book publishing. Being an author used to be and for many people still is a thing of respectability.

Quote from sources, the internet is at your finger tip to do all kinds of research. Previous generations would have killed to be able to learn and become nearly experts on almost anything while sitting in their jammies at home. For the love of some standards write your own stuff whenever you say you are writing a book regardless of why you are writing it and regardless if its $10 or free.

Don't take the crappy we can put up anything when marketing to the book publishing world too. There are some things that though not sacred should be close to it.
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PLR lovers, time to find new marketplace.

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PLR can be great for research, and you can certainly use it as a starting place for your organizing, outlining and writing of unique content. It doesn't need to be discarded simply because you cannot use it as is.

If you want to publish to the Kindle, everything you submit should be unique. It's always good to run your content through Copyscape, particularly if you are getting your writing outsourced.

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it sucks! I think with my bad grammer and spelling I will not have this problem, lets see I'm about to put my first kindle out can't wait to see why they will ban me!

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PLR can be a great resource to create your own free reports or bonus products, but not for Kindle.

This is another example of how important it is to know your marketing platform and their terms of service. Glad they at least give you a warning first.

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There were a bunch of WSO's and low cost products that were sold to show people how to load PLR books up by the ton to Amazon and the marketplace got inundated with that and then inundated with complaints about duplicate content. And Amazon needs customers.

They don't particularly care whether you bought Marketer A's course on how to "Reduce Amazon To A Sniveling Puppy" or whatever macho name is put on it, they have an authentic business that they built.

Interestingly, many people who market products and services off the Warrior Forum do very well in a number of areas witout ever getting their products or services slapped. It is not about being a good or a bad marketer, it is about the perception that you are willing to project into the world. If someone insists on trying to build a business based on loopholes, and secret tricks and backdoors to instant wealth, like mass uploading PLR books to Amazon, that says a lot about their business model.

I have no issue with PLR, I have sold a bunch of it. But if you want sell books in a marketplace where people are looking to buy information your information needs to be unique or at lest presented in a unique way.





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KDP just recently closed shop on merchants who were selling PLR. But, there's alot of money to be made from using your products and selling them on your website. Not sure if Smashwords works in the same way.

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I'm glad they did, marketers will kill the marketplace loading it with crap PLR. Thank you kindle.
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Personally, I'm glad Amazon is not allowing people to sell repackaged PLR as Kindle books. It's a good reminder for those Internet marketers who prefer to be lazy and take every possible shortcut just to make a fast buck.

I understand the argument that someone took the time to research and compile information (obtained from other sources) so it's all in a nice package for the benefit of the reader. However, to sell it as your own work (not aiming this at the OP) still isn't okay, and I think that's the issue here.

There's a lot of opportunity with Kindle, but what you sell there should be unique; not rewritten or repackaged public domain stuff or PLR. But doing so takes a lot of time and effort (or money to hire someone else to write it for you). And many people don't want to make that kind of investment.

Kindle has been yet another money-making venue quickly exploited by Internet marketers. Kudos to Amazon for setting some clear boundaries to help prevent such exploitation.

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Personally, I'm glad Amazon is not allowing people to sell repackaged PLR as Kindle books. It's a good reminder for those Internet marketers who prefer to be lazy and take every possible shortcut just to make a fast buck.

I understand the argument that someone took the time to research and compile information (obtained from other sources) so it's all in a nice package for the benefit of the reader. However, to sell it as your own work (not aiming this at the OP) still isn't okay, and I think that's the issue here.

There's a lot of opportunity with Kindle, but what you sell there should be unique; not rewritten or repackaged public domain stuff or PLR. But doing so takes a lot of time and effort (or money to hire someone else to write it for you). And many people don't want to make that kind of investment.

Kindle has been yet another money-making venue quickly exploited by Internet marketers. Kudos to Amazon for setting some clear boundaries to help prevent such exploitation.
By the time the systems to upload tons of stuff to Amazon came out for public sale, the PLR idea on Kindle was already dying. That is why the idea got shut down so quickly right after the products came out. And then when the second wave of PLR Kindle copycat products came out, it was really dead.





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Guys this has been going on since late last year at least.

Even heavily edited PLR, it's a no go on Kindle and for good reason.

Old news here, just someone who's come across it for the first time. No offense to the OP Jim M, of course.

About time?

No, it's already been going on...if you want to be a part of the most powerful book/ebook marketplace in the world, come up with original, unique content. Simple.

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If you completely rewrite a PLR product and it looks nothing like the original, how is it still PLR? Isn't it now new and unique with your own copyright?

How does Kindle even know it was originally PLR if you did a complete re-write with a new title and graphics?

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IMHO... PLR should be fine to be used as freebies... Not on kindle, it might be good enough though if you have completely rewritten it from contents to graphics... Well in that sense it is a whole new one not just a PLR..
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If you completely rewrite a PLR product and it looks nothing like the original, how is it still PLR? Isn't it now new and unique with your own copyright?

How does Kindle even know it was originally PLR if you did a complete re-write with a new title and graphics?
My thoughts also.

If it were an extensive rewrite it should be completely unidentifiable in contrast.

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You might have a problem even if you write original content. My book was not accepted at KDP at first with a claim that it wasn't an original work(it was 100%), although it was published just fine. It took several emails until someone did a manual review and enrolled it in KDP. They didn't explain, but I just presume that the subject matter (traveling on frequent miles and points) gave them a pause, because it could look like PLR, I guess.

I even offered to send them a copy of my Copyright Certificate from the Library of Congress, which I believe is a good idea to have just in case.
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Why must marketers try and junk up everything they enter?
Amen to that. I hope Amazon continues to be vigilant in their war against PLR garbage.

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It still baffles me that anyone thought putting PLR on Amazon and selling it as a book would be good in the first place. To make it worse, you even had some so called "experts" here on the forum selling courses on how to do this and they end up causing many people to have their Amazon accounts banned for life.

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However, in term of banning an account, Amazon is not so strict as Google Adsense.

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It still baffles me that anyone thought putting PLR on Amazon and selling it as a book would be good in the first place. To make it worse, you even had some so called "experts" here on the forum selling courses on how to do this and they end up causing many people to have their Amazon accounts banned for life.
I'm with you on this one...

Even posted a thread here about it awhile back - Warriors and other "Internet Marketers" Clogging Kindle With All Their SPAM...

...and that was 7 months BEFORE the sh#t really hit the fan and Fast Company published this article mentioning the WarriorForum by name.

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And then this post here - WF Kindle Slaughterhouse: Look At What You Bad People Did!


You are correct about those selling this nonsense. The problem was many of these self-proclaimed "experts" never made a dime on Kindle, but made a ton telling others just how "easy" it was to simply "cut-and-paste" your way to Kindle profits.

That said, not all of the blame can be placed on the sellers....the buyers were at fault too.

Many of them simply bought programs that told them what they wanted to hear - that making money on Kindle was as easy as buying $3 PLR and cut-and-pasting it to Kindle!

They didn't want to buy REAL info that told them it would take things like EFFORT and maybe even a little (gasp!)....WORK!

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Thanks for the heads up! I was planning to do something similar but now I am dropping the plan.

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There are just some titles that look PLRish! Even if a PLR book is rewritten is a smart reader, which Amazon editors must be, you can sense it is not an original work but derivative.

Giveaways are spammy titles, small number of pages, boring generic prose - no real author 'voice', certain niches i.e lose weight. Who is the author, does he'she write other books in this field?
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Be wary of stuff that's already in the public domain. I got a copyright message from YouTube saying I'd used a commercial track.

Well I did some research and it turns out that somebody else had copied the original open source track and claimed ownership of it!

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Not aiming at anyone particular here...

If someone "extensively rewrites" PLR material and it still gets called out as PLR material, just how "extensive" was the rewrite? :confused:

Get this one thing right and it will be like you are the only one they are listening to. Probably because you will be the only one they are listening to.

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<< Within a few hours I got a response asking me why I was publishing content which was freely available online, and asking me to prove what right I had to publish it.....

I responded suggesting that much of what is published is freely available online, and that someone has taken the time to research, compile, design cover etc. I also had to produce the licence I was given, you know - the pdf file with plr rights etc.... otherwise they wanted details of all the websites I had taken this information from!! >>

That's a little scary. As you say, almost any information is freely available online. So even if you write on a popular subject and don't use PLR, you could be accused of this. The same is true for non fiction print books, of course. How many articles, reports or books contain 100% original information?

I appreciate the need for quality control and to crack down on PLR. But it's also likely that some innocent authors will be targeted in the process.

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It's so easy to create original content if you use the right tools.
As an example take Stephen King...
Ever notice how all of his story have a certain feel to it. The trick it to use tried and tested story "templates" - more like universal, timeless plots - but original content from the jump.

I recently read that the size of the self publishing industry is something like $17 Billion. So there is massive room for everyone. If you just add value to readers and take "ethical" shortcuts....

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I am really happy that amazon is making the quality better for all of us. The way I look at it is that they are forcing me to be more creative with my work to produce a better product. Fantastic.
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You might have a problem even if you write original content. My book was not accepted at KDP at first with a claim that it wasn't an original work(it was 100%), although it was published just fine. It took several emails until someone did a manual review and enrolled it in KDP. They didn't explain, but I just presume that the subject matter (traveling on frequent miles and points) gave them a pause, because it could look like PLR, I guess.

I even offered to send them a copy of my Copyright Certificate from the Library of Congress, which I believe is a good idea to have just in case.
How is it possible . . . that an ebook could look like PLR

What exactly does PLR look like . . .

Does Amazon have a secret PLR detection system ???
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There are just some titles that look PLRish! Even if a PLR book is rewritten is a smart reader, which Amazon editors must be, you can sense it is not an original work but derivative.

Giveaways are spammy titles, small number of pages, boring generic prose - no real author 'voice', certain niches i.e lose weight. Who is the author, does he'she write other books in this field?
How exactly does do some ebook titles look PLRish ???

What criteria detects a PLR ebook . . .
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Well done, Amazon! Whatever criteria they used to determine crappy, regurgitated plr, it worked in the case of the OP.

I watched a replay of a so-called kindle webinar last night and the promoter of the $997 (!) course at the back of the webinar, was proud that his young daughter was making 4 figures a month sell 3-4 page "books" on kindle. Even if i believed that this was true, i'd hope the Amazon B.S. Filter would ban whatever accounts they'd set up to scam the system and hoodwink their customers.

That's what gets marketing a bad name and which will eventually strangle the kindle market (if Amazon ever lets its guard down) in the same way that the ebook market has been decimated by opportunist, valueless tosh.
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That's pretty much old news about plr and Kindle, but it's always good to have a reminder post now and then for new people coming on board.

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Yes I agree 100%! Stay away from PLR with Amazon. I once received a warning myself. There are some people that try to sell you WSOs/information products on how to make money by selling PLR on Amazon, stay away! You'll get banned from Amazon Kindle DP!
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I'm sorry. This isn't meant to target anyone but just a social commentary.

Why must marketers try and junk up everything they enter? Frankly I wouldn't even have thought of trying to submit PLR and Amazon shouldn't even need to explain. This isn't some website or blog thing. This is what is the present and future of book publishing. Being an author used to be and for many people still is a thing of respectability.

Quote from sources, the internet is at your finger tip to do all kinds of research. Previous generations would have killed to be able to learn and become nearly experts on almost anything while sitting in their jammies at home. For the love of some standards write your own stuff whenever you say you are writing a book regardless of why you are writing it and regardless if its $10 or free.

Don't take the crappy we can put up anything when marketing to the book publishing world too. There are some things that though not sacred should be close to it.
Thanks for writing this. I bought a few PLR things a while ago and found them universally crappy. I was looking for a free report to build a mailing list and extensively edited what seemed to be the best of a sorry lot.

After a while, I wrote something of my own for a much shorter free report and wondered if the longish PLR book would work for me on Kindle. I personally checked all the statistics (which turned out all to obsolete at best, totally wrong at worst), junked a bunch of the original content, found some all new material, and rearranged everything to more closely resemble the structure of my new free report. Oh, and I added references at the end of each chapter so readers could follow up and, in a few years, find current statistics. It's 125 Ways to Go Green and Save Green at the Same Time

By the time I was finished, I had legitimately written the book, although I'm grateful to have a PLR took to use for a point of departure. In the process of publishing it to Kindle, I found what for all the world looks like the original PLR book, complete with the original cover.

Just because you bought the right to put your name on someone else's work and sell it does not mean it's worth trying to use Amazon's marketing muscle instead of your own!
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I completely agree with Amazon's decision to reject PLR material. I, myself, would be pretty upset if I bought information off Amazon only to find out it is freely available on the web.

Unfortunately, I still see PLR content on Amazon. But it's only a matter of time before it gets the boot.

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Thanks jim for your wonderful info.
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Jim,
Thanks for sharing this info!
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You could conclude, by reading threads like this and others, that PLR is just an acronym for the lowliest form of personal waste. Or said another way, PLR = CRAP.

I have not found that to be the case ... IF ... you recognize and understand the proper uses for, and limitations of, this form of "done for you" copywriting.

Many folks who try to be authors shouldn't.

Many folks don't know how to properly form a sentence, a paragraph, or even a headline.

Many folks have a writing style that is totally B-O-R-I-N-G and so full of fluff that you could mistake it for a Boston Cream Pie.

Many folks simply can't explain in writing how to tie a shoe so that others can follow along.

There are a ton of ethical, smart, and good uses for quality PLR content. It may not be well-suited for Kindle, but don't dismiss this alternative simply because "you've heard" that PLR sucks.

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Thanks for sharing. It makes sense, I can see how publishers and distributors of content do not want a marketplace full of like or very similar content but there are challenges for authors.

One of the biggest challenges I believe authors and content originators face is that even by creating and publishing unique content you can be flagged. For example Squidoo's new system is so strict that I have heard cases where original content is locked and deleted. With so much content online it is likely, especially with fewer words, that somewhere out there in vast cyberspace someone in the world has written and is sharing content similar.

The biggest frustration is once your content is flagged, locked, or deleted the appeal process is horrid because the presumption is people are guilty until proven innocent and companies have so much content constantly coming in that hiring staff for an appeal process for content they don't need is a direct expense in the gutter. In Squidoo's case search in Google and you will find countless people complaining about their appeals not even receiving replies.
Sometimes depending on earnings generated by content an account termination or content deletion can lead to financial loss for the author. In the real world if someone gets fired they have an appeal process that is formalized until a result (done with due diligence) and the employer must pay wages for earnings to date. Justice is sometimes blind but in the court system people are innocent until proven guilty.

Content originators and authors will experience the growing pains of these rules and regulations enforced by each company. My advice is to make sure your content is completely unique and contains more words than less and if possible unique images, etc.

Having said that I believe in generally there is nothing wrong with PLR content and people sharing content. PLR, resell rights, and licensing is nothing new. If people license content and choose to make money from adding to, modifying or using as is the content then its a business and they should be able to do so. It's not a new concept and has been happening in life long before the Internet.

* Should publishing sites have a better process for managing content and rights?

* Should sites take extreme measures or allow PLR / licensed content but with penalty or a special listing?

* Should there be an appeal processes with due diligence that companies must invest in and follow (should it be regulated by the Government or an independent body)? Do people at least deserve a reply and reason if banned, terminated, locked, or blocked?

* If an account is terminated should payout be made to the account holder of funds that have accumulated to date (should this be Governed under employment law)?

* Should people that report content be reviewed themselves (sometimes affiliate marketers that purchase the same content (PLR packages, etc. ) report content without cause to get their competitors content deleted so that theirs remains and gets all the traffic -- example is YouTube)

There are many more questions, but just my 2 cents. This topic is much bigger and is a real social and human rights issue.

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P.S.

All these companies and services provide real value and are great communities that offer many benefits to people and society as a whole. I support, love and use these services but my point is that like everything in life there are growing pains that sometimes affect everyone until a point of maturity in the marketplace or until Government or laws catch up the to industry.

The reality is that original content authors do and will suffer from companies trying to enforce unique content rules until either a) more time and care is invested into appeal processes, and b) the systems, processes and procedures mature.

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Hi Folks,

I know there have been many versions of what you should and shouldn't do on kindle - this just happened yesterday - so it's fresh info..

I, like many here have more than my fair share of plr stuff on my hard drive, so I decided to extensively rewrite and publish one of them....

I made a completely new cover, re did the contents, which were actually a compliation of seven reports and I added two more chapters...... the result...

Within a few hours I got a response asking me why I was publishing content which was freely available online, and asking me to prove what right I had to publish it.....

I responded suggesting that much of what is published is freely available online, and that someone has taken the time to research, compile, design cover etc. I also had to produce the licence I was given, you know - the pdf file with plr rights etc.... otherwise they wanted details of all the websites I had taken this information from!!

I posting the response below....

"Please be advised that you must hold exclusive publishing rights for books that closely match content that is freely available on the web. If your catalog continues to contain books that fail to comply with these conditions or do not meet our Content Guidelines, your account may be terminated."

they also gave me a link to their Content Guidlines....

"Public Domain and Other Non-Exclusive Content
Some types of content, such as public domain content, may be free to use by anyone, or may be licensed for use by more than one party. We will not accept content that is freely available on the web unless you are the copyright owner of that content. For example, if you received your book content from a source that allows you and others to re-distribute it, and the content is freely available on the web, we will not accept it for sale on the Kindle store. We do accept public domain content, however we may choose to not sell a public domain book if its content is undifferentiated or barely differentiated from one or more other books"

I hope you find this useful - and it keeps you on the right side of KDP - on the upside, at least they didn't shut me down

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Is it possible that the folks over at Kindle have some sort of PLR Detector ???

Otherwise I really would like to know they can detect what is and what is not Private Label Rights material . . .

Please don't tell me that all PLR is rubbish, because it is not.

And what about all the total rubbish, garbage, junk that floats about under the guise of being original content.
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Is it possible that the folks over at Kindle have some sort of PLR Detector ???

Otherwise I really would like to know they can detect what is and what is not Private Label Rights material . . .

Please don't tell me that all PLR is rubbish, because it is not.

And what about all the total rubbish, garbage, junk that floats about under the guise of being original content.
They used a search engine, I would imagine.

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I contacted Amazon a month ago about a plr package and what was their position about it.

I wrote it, only sold 10 copies. I posted the material after giving some time to the first sellers to take action and, essentially, the material shows as mine on the web.

The problem with plr is that it does not transfer the copyright. This is the main thing Amazon does not like about it, besides the repeated content.

As the seller of the package I still hold those rights, but it is a grey area because the people who bought it do have the right to make derivative works of it changing almost nothing but the author.

After talking it over with them, I decided not to give it a shot. They did not like it.

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