A problem with Article Marketing robot

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Hi everybody! I start using Article Marketing Robot tool for posting articles in different directories. I make everything what was shown in tutorial BUT only 1 % of article I posted in were submitted.
Have anybody used this tool, may be there are some peculiarities or some acpects of its using? Or may be its not actual for now?
Please give me an advice what to do!
Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    Perhaps the quality of the article your submitting is failing human moderation?
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  • Profile picture of the author untwister
    Its something wrong with the tool. I suppose that human factor can't immediately refuse me in publishing the article. Can you suggest me the tool for mass article posting? Or may be name the reason why this works in such a way
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by untwister View Post

      Its something wrong with the tool. I suppose that human factor can't immediately refuse me in publishing the article. Can you suggest me the tool for mass article posting? Or may be name the reason why this works in such a way
      There is no good tool for mass article submission. There are too many variables for what each directory requires so blasting doesn't work well.
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      • Profile picture of the author untwister
        Then you suggest to add each article by hand? Or there are some alternatives?
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        • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
          Originally Posted by untwister View Post

          Then you suggest to add each article by hand? Or there are some alternatives?
          Do it manually or pay someone to do it.
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          • Profile picture of the author untwister
            And what do you think about rewriting the article? Is it necessary? Or it doesn't play so big role and it is possible to post one article in many directories?
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      • Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

        There is no good tool for mass article submission. There are too many variables for what each directory requires so blasting doesn't work well.
        I figured this out shortly after purchasing AMR.

        :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author AgentHomes
    Article marketing for SEO isn't what it use to be and normally isn't worth your effort these days. Google made these links nearly worthless with the Panda update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by untwister View Post

    only 1 % of article I posted in were submitted.
    That might actually turn out to be very lucky for you.

    It might just be enough to prevent Google's new post-Penguin-update algorithm from dramatically penalizing or even de-indexing your site.

    If you read the many other recent threads on this subject in this forum, you'll find some links to Google sites on which they've explained very openly and clearly that their intention is to penalize mass, automated submission to article directories using this type of software.
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    • Profile picture of the author untwister
      Can you give me links to read about article submission which are actuall for now? I believed that google's update haven't affected article marketing for so much What to do? How to promote my site for now?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        Can you give me links to read about article submission which are actuall for now?
        Yes. The links in this post might help.

        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        I believed that google's update haven't affected article marketing for so much
        This is incorrect.

        Real article marketing has been helped greatly by both the series of Panda Updates of 2011/12 and the Penguin Update of early 2012.

        The attempt to use articles for backlinks (that isn't really "article marketing" at all, you know?) has been greatly hindered. One thing is for sure, at this stage: you're very unlikely indeed to benefit - and are taking great risks of penalties - by using automated article submission software!
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        • Profile picture of the author untwister
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          To Alexa Smith
          Thanks for comment and links you suggested me to read - very useful. I'm still reading them. It was interesting to know about your scheme of submitting article into directories - to publish the article at your site and then to add the same article into artcile directories for getting traffic and some link juice. But I have some questions on this topic:
          1) Some directories accept only unique content (which was not published and indexed anewhere yet) - what to do with such directories, espechially if they are relevant to the topic of your article?
          2) How does pinguin reacts on article syndication? Isn't he against it?
          3) How much article directories to choose for submission if for example all of them are relevant to your thematic. It is better to choose more (with different importance - PR) or less (only the most important)? If you can - name the preliminary number!

          Thanks!
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by untwister View Post

            It was interesting to know about your scheme of submitting article into directories - to publish the article at your site and then to add the same article into artcile directories for getting traffic and some link juice.
            It's not "my" scheme. What's referred to in those links is just "article marketing".

            But it doesn't include adding the same article into directories for getting traffic and some link juice. Article directories have no useful link juice for us. And no article marketer would want to be generating traffic directly from an article directory, for all the reasons explained in this post. Article directory copies are for publishers, not for customers. We want customers reading the copy originally published and indexed on our own site, not the directory copy (and that's easily arranged).

            Originally Posted by untwister View Post

            1) Some directories accept only unique content
            Incorrect. Article directories don't require previously unpublished content. Look again at the ones you think "accept only unique content" and I think you'll find that they're not actually article directories. So far, every time someone has posted here saying "XYZ site accepts only unique content" it's turned out that XYZ site isn't actually an article directory at all - it just looks like one at first glance.

            Originally Posted by untwister View Post

            2) How does pinguin reacts on article syndication? Isn't he against it?
            No, not at all: on the contrary, Google recognises the need for syndicated content and likes it, and goes to quite some lengths to clarify this to people. (Some of the posts I've linked to above include further links to details of this hugely misunderstood point). The Penguin update penalizes multiple article directory copies, and especially mass-submitted ones, because those aren't true syndication to relevant sites at all.

            Originally Posted by untwister View Post

            3) How much article directories to choose for submission if for example all of them are relevant to your thematic.
            There's absolutely no point in using more than one or two. Ezine Articles and another, say. Article directories are not relevant to your niche. They're depositories of content available for syndication by publishers. That's all they are. It's when you start trying to use them for other purposes that problems arise.

            These two threads explain ...

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

            Originally Posted by untwister View Post

            It is better to choose more (with different importance - PR)
            "PR" has no relevance to this at all. Article directories don't "have page ranks" because article directories are websites, and websites don't "have page ranks" - only pages have page ranks. Whatever the page rank of an article directory's own home page, your article isn't published on its own home page but on a new PR-0 page.

            Ezine Articles, I think at least 95% of article marketers would agree, is the best article directory by far. But don't imagine that because its own home page happens to be PR-6, you're getting a "good backlink" from it. That isn't and shouldn't be what you're using it for. The fact that article directory backlinks are a waste of time is a good thing for article marketers, not a bad thing: it's what enables us to use article directories for their intended purpose (i.e. for publishers) and our own sites to attract the potential customer traffic.

            Article directories make their living out of the majority of the traffic that doesn't get as far as your website: don't let your potential customers see those copies, or you're losing people unnecessarily!
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  • Profile picture of the author untwister
    By the way the links I supposed to get from article directories doesn't lead to my site. They lead to another site which links to my!
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Originally Posted by untwister View Post

    Hi everybody! I start using Article Marketing Robot tool for posting articles in different directories. I make everything what was shown in tutorial BUT only 1 % of article I posted in were submitted.
    Have anybody used this tool, may be there are some peculiarities or some acpects of its using? Or may be its not actual for now?
    Please give me an advice what to do!
    Thanks.
    I take it your using the article directories that came with AMR? They're heavily saturated now because they've been spammed to death. What was your sign up success rate?

    You need to add your own list of article directories for the tool to be of any use. Even then, im not sure if there is any SEO benefit for building links directly to your money site.
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    • Profile picture of the author untwister
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      I take it your using the article directories that came with AMR? They're heavily saturated now because they've been spammed to death. What was your sign up success rate?

      You need to add your own list of article directories for the tool to be of any use. Even then, im not sure if there is any SEO benefit for building links directly to your money site.
      You are right! I got acquainted with the programm so I used the directories which already were in the programm, and so was dissatisfied with the result I got. And so as I have understood autoposting is not beneficial for now
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  • Profile picture of the author brainmoody
    You must have a well written article and good list of auto apporval directories. And make sure you use AMR blast in your tier 2.
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  • Profile picture of the author untwister
    Could you tell me where I can take this list of auto aproval directories and what is AMR blast? If it's not difficult for you
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  • Profile picture of the author untwister
    About AMR I have already understood what it is
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  • Profile picture of the author Fredbou
    Originally Posted by untwister View Post

    Please give me an advice what to do!
    I'm new at IM but I'm very experienced (13+ years) with search engines.

    I suggest that you play it straight and get articles written properly and uniquely. It's very easy to find people prepared to write excellent articles for $1 per 300 words. Why risk get blocked/banned for the sake of a few dollars? Your professional integrity should convince you to do things the correct way.

    My thoughts, anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author sugiharto79
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    Seriously, don't do it. Mass article submission WILL get your penalized with Panda. Google has being sending a very clear message, and with panda conventional methods of search spam won't work. That's not to say everything isn't going to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author untwister
    Thanks! But I have one more question. You say that: "
    Originally Posted by untwister
    3) How much article directories to choose for submission if for example all of them are relevant to your thematic.
    There's absolutely no point in using more than one or two. Ezine Articles and another, say. Article directories are not relevant to your niche. They're depositories of content available for syndication by publishers."

    But Why can't I use 10 or may be 20+ article directories for posting the articles if the all have the section wich is devoted to my thematics. For example: Computers - Software. Publishers will come to these article directoreis and take the content if they like it.
    Or its preferrable to choose (as you told) one or two directories and its all?
    Frankly speaking I have a great desire to publish the articles in many directories because I believe it brings some juice. Till now I believed that this was the most powerfull method, except the natural one, to get juice.
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  • Profile picture of the author untwister
    One more fact. I've just submitted an article into 2 directories and from one (ArticlesBase.com) I've got an answer -

    "Your article "Devart's Linqconnect" has been rejected by Articlesbase's Content Editor because it is a duplicate article.

    We only allow one copy of each article."

    This article was published in one place in the internet and then I published it in 2 article directories. It means that they need a unique content!
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    • Profile picture of the author untwister
      From: Article Publication Editorial Guidelines - ArticlesBase.com we can read that:

      All articles must be your original articles and not published elsewhere online.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        Why can't I use 10 or may be 20+ article directories for posting the articles if the all have the section wich is devoted to my thematics.
        You can, but I advise you against it.

        For an article directory to "have a section which is relevant to you" doesn't usually make the site itself relevant to you in the sense that Google looks at "relevance" for backlinking purposes. And you won't gain from it. Your potential publishers will (normally) look in Ezine Articles first and foremost. There'll be some who look in the other directories you're referring to, I imagine, but typically they'll have looked in Ezine Articles first (because that's the best-known article directory and the natural "first port of call" of content-seekers. And what you don't want to happen is for your potential customers to find your articles there. You want the one on your site to outrank all the others and always to be the one that attracts the customers (usually fairly easily done). There's also the added risk, in these post-Penguin times, that Google won't like your article being in 20 article directories (they have said so, openly), whereas they obviously do like it being on 20 relevant sites.

        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        Or its preferrable to choose (as you told) one or two directories and its all?
        Greatly preferable, I think.

        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        I have a great desire to publish the articles in many directories because I believe it brings some juice.
        It just doesn't.

        Even before the Panda updates of 2011, as the authors of standard SEO textbooks were pointing out in 2010 and early 2011, you'd typically need something between 50,000 and 100,000 of those "backlinks" to give you the same linkjuice as that arising from one backlink on a relevant site. Last year, I would have said to you "Try it and see for yourself", but this year I won't even say that because you may run into a Penguin penalty if you try it. It's too risky, and to gain nothing.

        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        I've got an answer -

        "Your article "Devart's Linqconnect" has been rejected by Articlesbase's Content Editor because it is a duplicate article.

        We only allow one copy of each article."

        This article was published in one place in the internet and then I published it in 2 article directories. It means that they need a unique content!
        You have misunderstood what they said, as many people do.

        It means they need content which is unique to them. Not content "which hasn't previously been published". These are two different things.

        They say "We only allow one copy of each article" and they're right. It they published two copies of one article, that would be duplicate content, not syndicated content. Duplicate content means "more than one copy on the same website". Syndicated content means "copies on different websites". (One is good; the other is bad).

        They're telling you they won't accept your article because it's too similar to another article which already exists in their database, so it isn't unique to them. They don't care if it's been published elsewhere.

        Don't imagine that they're rejecting it because you already published it on your own site: that isn't what happened, here.

        This little article explains very clearly the difference between "duplicate content" and "syndicated content": Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog <--- highly recommended!

        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        All articles must be your original articles and not published elsewhere online.
        Well - thanks for this: I'm embarrassed to say I've never noticed it before. It isn't enforced. Like countless other article marketers, I have hundreds of articles in there, all of which had already been published on my own site before being submitted there.

        Anyway, you don't need to use that one, if you don't want to: Ezine Articles is far better.

        If you have a read through this longer thread, you'll see a large number of professional, successful article marketers explaining at great length and in great detail why they don't submit to article directories anything that hasn't already been published and indexed (in the same form) on their own websites first: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

        Above all, don't imagine that multiple article directory backlinks will have any linkjuice value to you. That wasn't even true before the Panda updates decimated the SEO-potential of article directories. They're worthless. As the saying goes: "100,000 of those backlinks and $3.50 will buy you a cappuccino at Starbucks!" (But don't test that out, or the Penguin update might eat your website for breakfast!! ).
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  • Profile picture of the author untwister
    Thanks! I see your point of view but that means that all the job of article marketing leads to posting in one good article directoy (after posting the article on your site) - EZA for example.
    Could you advise me good methods of promoting IT web site if we are already posting id thematic catalogues and press releases and also posting on thematic blogs. What methods noe are the best? What can we use more fo getting link juice?
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  • Profile picture of the author Socialbakers
    I just don't think that using an article robot is a good thing. You should always consider writing the article yourself or outsource it...
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    • Profile picture of the author untwister
      Originally Posted by Socialbakers View Post

      I just don't think that using an article robot is a good thing. You should always consider writing the article yourself or outsource it...
      Thanks. Frankly speaking having monitoring the internet I met a lot of similar to your opinions and I agree with it. I also heard about such way of getting good back links to your site - to find the thematic resource and ask the owner to publish on it your article with your link. What can you say about it? Are there any sites which offer such service? For example there is a Russian Miralinks - where you can choose a site and buy an interesting article with back link to your site on it. Are there any USA analogues and what are their efficiency?\

      Thanks one more time)
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  • Profile picture of the author Tanya E
    The lesser automation that you resort to the safer will be your online business. With Google tightening up on their checks it is better not only to look natural but also to actually be natural.
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    • Profile picture of the author untwister
      Thanks for your reply! It is interesting for me are there any sites where I can buy the submission of my article on another thematic resource with the link to my site?
      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by untwister View Post

        are there any sites where I can buy the submission of my article on another thematic resource with the link to my site?
        There may be, depending on your niche.

        It isn't generally necessary to pay. The benefits tend to come from the fact that it's content people that want to syndicate without payment, just because they want to share your content with their own visitors, subscribers and readers. The ones you have to "pay to display" are - usually - unlikely to bring so much targeted traffic anyway.

        This post will help you, I think: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6575732

        If you'll excuse the observation, what will help you even more is to try to stop thinking of article marketing in terms of SEO/backlinks. That's not what it's all about. The reason for trying to do off-page SEO is just to attract search engine traffic through rankings. Article marketing, correctly done, can bring you far more traffic than that, and far more highly targeted and better quality, too.
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        • Profile picture of the author untwister
          Thanks! I have already choosed the article directories for my nishe and now I'm simply seeking the ways to get more juice) I understood all your recomendations acording article marketing, thanks) And I'll with pleasure read the post you suggested
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  • Profile picture of the author Prof1tSn1per
    I found if I spread the submission for more than a week and not submit to hundreds of directories daily then it will work.
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  • Profile picture of the author goldclubmember
    1.) Are you using old email address with many emails in it ? Try to use a new email that you could throw away.

    2.) Are you using VPN ? Some of the ips of VPN May overload or could be blacklisted as abuse by others. Try to change your IPs and try again.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaffacake2000
    Article marketing robot doesnt work, when you submit, they're all failures, i cant believe they're still promoting the product and i've fallen for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by jaffacake2000 View Post

      Article marketing robot doesnt work, when you submit, they're all failures
      Honestly, that's a good thing, not a bad thing. You'll avoid the heavy Google overoptimization penalties that have befallen so many Warriors precisely because they've used equivalents of that that did work. I don't mean it sarcastically: you were saved some heavy-duty risk-factors here, so look on the bright side. Google has explained very openly and clearly that their intention is to penalize mass, automated submission to article directories using this type of software.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by jaffacake2000 View Post

      Article marketing robot doesnt work, when you submit, they're all failures, i cant believe they're still promoting the product and i've fallen for it.
      That's because the included AD list is old and has been overly submitted to. You can add your own list of AD's then submit to them although Big G mentions mass low quality article directories in their latest webmaster guidelines so you should only such links to tier 2 sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Don't do anymore "robot marketing". Do good old article marketing... only 2 sites will bring you the most traffic. Consider joining the directory of ezines also and contact list owners if they will accept your content. Leave article marketing robot alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    The problem with Aritcle Marketing Robot is the owner doesn't maintain it. I guess he's off doing something else, who knows.
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  • Profile picture of the author daledupree
    mine does not work properly either, but i do get about 10% submissions rate, which is about 130 submissions each time i use it. which is no where near the 1000 + the video shows..
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