"When Will I Make My Money Back?"

by byau
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Browsing threads here... when someone is looking to buy a product, especially an expensive one, I see a question that comes up often:

"Well, when will I make my money back?"

Logically I can see the rationale for this question. If you are going to spend $1000 you want to know how quickly (or slowly) you will get that $1000 back.

But here's a different way to think about it:

Investing in Real Estate and the Stock Market ... a 12% return is generally considered a great return. To use round numbers, let's say you find something that earns you 20% return annually. That would be magnificent!

That means if you put $100 in something, it makes you $20 a YEAR. Split amongst 12 months, that's a little less than $2 a month.

If you buy a website or product for $100 that earns you $5 a month, you're way ahead of the stock market. You're earning an astounding 60% a year on your investment.

I know this is a bit of flawed logic because IM earnings go up and down, they might be very touchy, they don't compound at that rate, etc.. And honestly IM "investment" is a lot riskier too (i.e. easier to lose your money since it really depends a lot on the "investor's discipline")

But if you look at it from an investment side, you just put your money into something that at $5 a month earns you a 60% return on your investment.

Just another way to think about it when you spend/invest your money on your IM career.

Thoughts? Did I miss something obvious?
  • Profile picture of the author BiggyJ
    I do kind of agree, people don't think of this as an investment, which it basically is. Although, when you hear all these stories of people making millions from nothing you start asking yourself what about if I invest, how long will it be untl I get my money back.

    It is the "flaw" of being able to do everything from scratch by anyone with 0 investment, that makes people think of this differently.
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    • Profile picture of the author byau
      Originally Posted by BiggyJ View Post


      It is the "flaw" of being able to do everything from scratch by anyone with 0 investment, that makes people think of this differently.
      Good point ... IM is an opportunity to make something from 0 monetary investment which makes things different. And that can be a good and bad thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Whether you invest in IM or IBM, you want answers to both ROI questions.

        > When will I get the Return Of my Investment?

        > What will be the Return On my Investment?

        It's a valid question.

        In your scenario, there's no residual value. Which means you are relying on the results of the investment totally for returns, rather than hedging some of the risk with resale value.

        At 20%, you will make your original investment back in 5 years. In other words, there is no Return ON Investment yet. If you continue to make 20% after you break even, then you can start talking about the ROI. Positive ROI starts in year 6 in this scenario.

        So I always want to know:

        > How long until I make my money back?
        > How much will I then make on that money and for how long?

        Give me your best answer. If it fits my objectives and risk acceptability, I'm in. If not, as the sharks on Shark Tank say, I'm out...
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        • Profile picture of the author byau
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          In your scenario, there's no residual value. Which means you are relying on the results of the investment totally for returns, rather than hedging some of the risk with resale value.
          Good points, all of them

          I did see this part of your post which struck me. There is a resale value with internet sites. But it is a lot harder to sell the sites just because there is a lot of ambiguity is this market compared to say real estate or stocks.

          As I read that specific point of yours, I thought of the comparisons this way: There are investments which provide you income and at the same time your "principle" can also increase

          Bank: Earns X% interest you can see/spend. Principle itself stays the same which you can "resell" (it's already in cash form)

          Stocks: Earns X% interest you can see/spend (dividends). Principle itself can also increase/decrease in value for when you resell.

          Real Estate Home Purchase: Earns 0% interest you can see/spend. Principle itself can increase/decrease in value for when you resell.

          Real Estate: Rental purchase: Earns X% in rental income you can see/spend. Principle itself can increase/decrease in value for when you resell.

          Internet real estate a.k.a. websites: Earns X% in income you can see/spend. Principle itself can increase/decrease in value for when you sell.

          Internet real estate definitely poses a higher risk but also higher reward ($100 website earning $5/month is realistic) and much more unknown in resale market. But also involves a much lower investment, sometimes $0 (but lots of effort).

          Interesting thought exercise ...
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  • Profile picture of the author GlobalTrader
    A key factor that most people seem to ignore in purchasing an "investment" in the IM industry is something that is required to be printed BOLDLY a prospectus for any real investment which is:

    Past performance is no indicator of future success

    Starting an IM business or using IM to support your business sales by purchasing an ebook, WSO, IM course or completed website does in NO way guarantee you of any return on your investment.

    You could purchase a website today that is getting all of it's traffic from free Google traffic and overnight the big G changes their algorithm or decides to place Google Shopping results at the top and shift competitors off page one into nowhere land and your "potential" investment return just shifted to Zero.
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    • Profile picture of the author byau
      Originally Posted by GlobalTrader View Post

      A key factor that most people seem to ignore in purchasing an "investment" in the IM industry is something that is required to be printed BOLDLY a prospectus for any real investment which is:

      Past performance is no indicator of future success
      Good point - the analogies between "real world" investments and "IM" investments roll on in ways I hadn't thought of.

      Enlightening.
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  • I get this question and I tell them depends on what kind of person you are if you are an average person probably never if you can focus and implement then faster, I can't answer because I don't know what kind of person you are there are thousands of factors. Most people hate this answer and most people hate the the trutch. I have heard gurus say you will start seeting $2000 in 2 weeks with a few hours of simple work or even done for you of course that is not true but that is the kind of thing people demand to hear.
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  • Profile picture of the author handymoney2
    Ya your when buying something to help you make money is basically an investment
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