Article Marketing

by onlineseomarketing 30 replies
I'm just wondering what way you do this? Some people add their article to their website first before submitting it to the article directories and some people submit it to the article directories, wait for the directory to accept, then add the article to their website. I do it the second way which I've been told by someone is the correct way to do it.

Let me know your thoughts? :confused:
#main internet marketing discussion forum #article #article writing #ezine articles #ezine articles submission #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author cardine
    You will hear lots of things from lots of different people and very few people agree on best practices.

    I would never add an article to a directory first, because then they'll be the owners of the content and not you. I'd try to (whenever possible) do it the other way around. If the article directories won't accept the articles because it is copied from your site, spin it so it is unique/readable and post it to the directory then.

    IMO it's important that search engines find the article on your site first and see you as the "creator" of it.
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    • Thanks, I have herd loads of different ways of doing it but the way I'm doing it seems to work as long as soon as the article has been accepted I add it to my website. But I see what your meaning and that’s how I did it before until someone else told me to do it the way I do now.
      Now I'm just very confused. I would like to see what the majority think before I go back to the way you have described.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by onlineseomarketing View Post

    I'm just wondering what way you do this?

    I do it this way: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

    Originally Posted by onlineseomarketing View Post

    Some people add their article to their website first before submitting it to the article directories
    Some people do, yes. Those are the people who understand how article marketing works and what an article directory is, and how they work. In this long thread, a whole succession of professional, experienced, successful article marketers explain all their shared reasons for always doing it that way round: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

    Originally Posted by onlineseomarketing View Post

    some people submit it to the article directories, wait for the directory to accept, then add the article to their website.
    I don't know anyone who does that. It would make no sense at all - compared with the correct way, that's just a method of damaging your own site's SEO and losing a lot of your traffic. Certainly, nobody who genuinely understands how article directories work (not to mention anything about how Google works) would do that: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

    Originally Posted by onlineseomarketing View Post

    I do it the second way which I've been told in training is the correct way to do it.
    I promise I don't mean it rudely, but if anyone had told me "in training" to do it that way round, not only would I totally ignore it, but I'd also err on the side of ignoring any other "information" that same "trainer" had given me, just in case all his "information" turned out to come right out of the same Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing. Sorry ...


    I think it will really help you a lot to have a long, slow, careful read through this thread, clicking on a lot of the links you find inside it: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

    Originally Posted by cardine View Post

    If the article directories won't accept the articles because it is copied from your site
    As so many people have told you in so many other threads, Cardine, that doesn't happen because article directories don't require previously unplublished content.

    Originally Posted by cardine View Post

    spin it so it is unique/readable and post it to the directory then.
    That's even more misguided and silly than what's posted above.

    We can all see that you promote "spinning" in your sig-file and that your misguided posts on this subject are motivated by that, but that doesn't make it any more sensible at all. Warriors who do article marketing are well aware that spinning has no benefits for them, as is made clear in countless threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6785821


    Originally Posted by cardine View Post

    You will hear lots of things from lots of different people and very few people agree on best practices.
    Like so many of your ill-judged statements on this subject, this is actually completely wrong.

    All the article marketers in this forum who are actually making a living by article marketing agree fully about the "best practices".
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    • Profile picture of the author cardine
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      As so many people have told you in so many other threads, Cardine, that doesn't happen because article directories don't require previously unplublished content.
      So you speak for every article directory in the world? Or did you not notice how I said "if"?



      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      That's even more misguided and silly than what's posted above.

      We can all see that you promote "spinning" in your sig-file and that your misguided posts on this subject are motivated by that, but that doesn't make it any more sensible at all. Warriors who do article marketing are well aware that spinning has no benefits for them, as is made clear in countless threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6785821
      Maybe spinning does not work with how you do article marketing. I speak for how I do article marketing, which works. I don't care if you keep talking until you are blue in the face (or keep stalking my posts down to find little technicalities to attack me on). You can keep doing that and I'll keep making money.



      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Like so many of your ill-judged statements on this subject, this is actually completely wrong.

      All the article marketers in this forum who are actually making a living by article marketing agree fully about the "best practices".
      People in your circle of friends agree fully on "best practices". People in my circle of friends agree fully on "best practices", and those "best practices" are different. So by saying there is no disagreement because "you and the people you associate with" don't disagree is like a Democrat who never talks to Republicans saying there is no disagreement.

      Bottom line is, if you have an article that is unique, human readable quality, and you don't want to put it on your money site (spun content can easily fit this description and there are a lot of legitimate reasons to not put a human quality unique article on your money site) then using them for article marketing is a valid and very effective strategy.


      Now I'll wait for the barrage of ad hominem attacks from you to continue
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  • Profile picture of the author IMMaster
    If you are asking the question for the Google's sake . I say YES put it on your site first because they have to find it on your site and make their calculations ( very complicated one)
    then put it wherever you want. I know that you have a resource box that refer the article to your site but I'm telling you about my way .
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  • Profile picture of the author Hardik Jogi
    Alexa Has Covered Almost Everything!
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  • Thanks Alexa, I read right through everything and I can see other people are having the same problem.

    I have edited my original thread as the "training" part wasn't exactly correct. I was actually told by someone who was at training on article marketing, so he may have misunderstood the process.

    That was really helpful and I grateful for you spending your time to help me and tell your knowledge on Article marketing. You seem to know your stuff in this subject.

    Send me your Twitter or facebook page and I'll subscribe to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Actually article marketing is nothing new. The full leveraging power of this method was known shortly after the invention of the steam-operated printing press by German printer Friedrich Koenig in the 1800's. However, somehow this technique was lost in recent years when article marketing "trainers" relegated articles only for backlinks. These are the modern-day alchemy marketers; thinking they could turn google garbage into gold. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author krobinson
    What I do, I write different article for my website to post and different article for Article directories because if article directories find that your article is copied then they will never approve your article.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by krobinson View Post

      if article directories find that your article is copied then they will never approve your article.
      Sorry, but this is just wrong. It isn't true. It's a mistaken belief about a simple, verifiable, factual matter.

      They don't care whether or not it's "copied" as long as it's submitted by its own author/owner! You're confusing two different things, here.

      Article directories do not require previously unpublished content
      .

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

      Originally Posted by krobinson View Post

      I write different article for my website to post and different article for Article directories
      You really shouldn't do that, Krobinson. That's very misguided indeed. As explained above, and as explained in greater detail by many successful article marketers making our livings this way, in the threads linked to above, and in 100+ other article marketing threads in this forum, you're making a big and unnecessary mistake there, by unnecessarily giving article directories the initial indexation rights to previously unpublished content. And all because of your erroneous belief that article directories won't publish articles that you've already published on your own sites and/or elsewhere. They will and they do. Take it from a few dozen of us here, who make our livings this way, who between us have done this tens of thousands of times.

      You may just find that we've worked it out correctly.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html <----- this thread will help you a lot, if you're willing to read it.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnsonking
    Those people who published article at their site first and then publish it in article directory, they are running wrong way. They are increasing bounce rate of their website. I think its wrong strategy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by johnsonking View Post

      Those people who published article at their site first and then publish it in article directory, they are running wrong way. They are increasing bounce rate of their website. I think its wrong strategy.
      I give in.

      Never mind the fact that all the people making a living from this say the exact opposite, from years of successful experience: I'll just look on the bright side and hope that all my competitors agree with you.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I give in.

        Never mind the fact that all the people making a living from this say the exact opposite, from years of successful experience: I'll just look on the bright side and hope that all my competitors agree with you.
        You mean 4 listings on a web directory isn't success? :confused:

        (the site listed in our wannabe expert's sig)
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      • Profile picture of the author bhl2506
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I give in.

        Never mind the fact that all the people making a living from this say the exact opposite, from years of successful experience: I'll just look on the bright side and hope that all my competitors agree with you.

        Keep your chin up Alexa don't let 1 dumb arse wear you down.
        It seems know matter how many times you try to help someone there is always one or two in the crowd that is to stupid to listen. I for one am glad that good warriors like you and quite a few others share your knowledge.

        Just to let you know at least one of your followers is doing what information is shared and looking at the first part of 2013 to tell the boss to kiss off.
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      • Profile picture of the author trivisionary
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I give in.

        Never mind the fact that all the people making a living from this say the exact opposite, from years of successful experience: I'll just look on the bright side and hope that all my competitors agree with you.
        Hey Alexa, don't be frustrated with that.

        I really enjoy your posts that help me a lot, although it's been four months, since I make up my mind to learn english.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by johnsonking View Post

      Those people who published article at their site first and then publish it in article directory, they are running wrong way. They are increasing bounce rate of their website. I think its wrong strategy.
      I've heard all the 'duplicate content' nonsense, but this is the first time I've heard that retaining first-publication status will increase a site's bounce rate.

      The only scenario I can come up with for this is if someone finds an article on a directory, then follows the links back to the same article on the website. That will, justifiably, create more bounces but I fail to see how publishing on your own site first contributes to that.

      Linking an article on an outside site, any outside site, back to the same exact article on your own site is a flawed strategy regardless of where the article appeared first.
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      • Profile picture of the author fin
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        I've heard all the 'duplicate content' nonsense, but this is the first time I've heard that retaining first-publication status will increase a site's bounce rate.
        I think I'd agree with it.

        Going by my tiny amount, plus some very successful marketers that I follow, I know that search engine traffic is much, much more likely to stay for a few minutes and bounce compared to if it came from a referring site.

        But obviously you would get more visitors from the searches than the click-through from another website, so it probably still leans in your favor to get search engine traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    Alexa, I think you're slowing down! OP: 7:16, Your reply: 7:41.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

      Alexa, I think you're slowing down! OP: 7:16, Your reply: 7:41.
      Had to wait for Cardine to reply first, so I could point out (again) that he managed to drag some totally misguided nonsense about "spinning" into the conversation just because he's promoting it in his sig-file.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Just get started writing something. And test and track your results. Try both approaches and see with your divine knowledge and experience which one is better and more effective for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author prithvitheprime
    You know how article spinning is important. But what can i say you is leave the article as unique both in your sites and the article directories. It will create a high reputations for your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author picnic
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    if you don't want to use the article on your own blog then posting it on an adsense revenue sharing site is ok, otherwise article spinning is an option
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymakerway
    My opinion is that using the same article to submit to article directories is not a wise decision. If you do it you will create duplicate content and this is not good thing for seo.
    You should firstly spin your article to look like original and unique and then submit it to article directory.
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