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Pursue This Niche or Leave it Alone?

by cipha
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I am using traffic travis free version and am trying to figure out if these stats will make for a good niche site for a newbie. I am looking for something easy to rank for.

It says that it is relatively easy but yet the avg and median pr is 5 the first site is wikipedia and the other top 3 sites have 30,000, 3,000, and 4,000 backlinks.

So I am confused as to why traffic travis would rank this as relatively easy.
Should I go by the relatively easy label or by the pr and backlinks?

Any thoughts and help is appreciated.
#niche #niche choice #pursue #traffic travis
  • Profile picture of the author iRunThis
    What?

    Pursue the niche! I can say this without even knowing what it is. If you want to pursue it, pursue it! People worry way too much about competition sometimes.

    Also, it's not the niche that has the competition that you're looking at. It's the keyword... Simple solution: Find a different keyword. Don't run away from the niche because the main keyword is too competitive. Dig deeper, find that keyword that's not too competitive and rank for it. Eventually, after you've ranked for many of these smaller keywords you'll be ready to take on the big dogs.

    Any questions PM me,
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeyElmore
      Originally Posted by iRunThis View Post

      What?

      Pursue the niche! I can say this without even knowing what it is. If you want to pursue it, pursue it! People worry way too much about competition sometimes.

      Also, it's not the niche that has the competition that you're looking at. It's the keyword... Simple solution: Find a different keyword. Don't run away from the niche because the main keyword is too competitive. Dig deeper, find that keyword that's not too competitive and rank for it. Eventually, after you've ranked for many of these smaller keywords you'll be ready to take on the big dogs.

      Any questions PM me,
      JaVaun T
      What JaVaun said, absolutely go for it! If nothing else, run some test campaigns and see what you come up with.

      Good luck
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      "The grass isn't always greener on the other side. It's greener where you water it."

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    • Profile picture of the author cipha
      Thanks. You are right I didn't really think of it that way as the keyword being competitive within the niche. I am going to look further at the niche and try to find some better keywords. I love the way WF folks think!


      Originally Posted by iRunThis View Post

      What?

      Pursue the niche! I can say this without even knowing what it is. If you want to pursue it, pursue it! People worry way too much about competition sometimes.

      Also, it's not the niche that has the competition that you're looking at. It's the keyword... Simple solution: Find a different keyword. Don't run away from the niche because the main keyword is too competitive. Dig deeper, find that keyword that's not too competitive and rank for it. Eventually, after you've ranked for many of these smaller keywords you'll be ready to take on the big dogs.

      Any questions PM me,
      JaVaun T
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      • Profile picture of the author iRunThis
        Originally Posted by cipha View Post

        Thanks. You are right I didn't really think of it that way as the keyword being competitive within the niche. I am going to look further at the niche and try to find some better keywords. I love the way WF folks think!
        No problem man!

        If you have any more problems, feel free to PM me. I'm always available to help out a fellow warrior in need.

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  • Profile picture of the author HolyWarrior
    I've learned that the most happy and successful Internet marketers go into a niche they're passionate about. I've done the same and can tell you that it's SO much more fulfilling and easy to write and work on things related to that which I have a burning enthusiasm for.

    What I'm saying is that if it's in a niche that you're passionate about, then go for it. If not, then find one in which you are passionate about, because "stats and figures" aren't going to make a boring topic any less boring. Not only that, when you're writing about something you're not passionate about, it WILL shine through.

    People want experts, they want authorities on the subject, and they're getting more and more capable of seeing through websites that exist only for the sake of marketing, that is unless they're convinced that you're truly an expert on the topic in which they're seeking advice for.

    Passion. It's where your success is, and thus where your niche should be.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Totally off topic. @iRunThis - Love the quote in your siggy. Did you write it?
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    • Profile picture of the author iRunThis
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

      Totally off topic. @iRunThis - Love the quote in your siggy. Did you write it?
      Hahaha why thank you.

      No, I didn't. I actually have no idea who wrote it, I heard it somewhere and it's been one of my favorite and most memorable quotes ever since.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Just go for it.

    But don't plan on Google giving you all of your traffic. Thousands and thousands of businesses have gotten BURNED because they did just that.

    Google is just one highway of people online. Don't forget press releases, Google, forums, blogs, YouTube...

    Would you rather have one highway coming to your website, or a dozen?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I've never heard of a backlink buying a product, so there is an inherent flaw in your niche selection process. Who are the people? What do they need? Can you give it to them?

    It's. That. Simple. Stop basing everything on metrics that aren't giving you a real answer.
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    • Profile picture of the author cipha
      I thought that competition wise it is harder to rank a site when the top sites have way more backlinks. Is that how it works as far as ranking goes?

      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      I've never heard of a backlink buying a product, so there is an inherent flaw in your niche selection process. Who are the people? What do they need? Can you give it to them?

      It's. That. Simple. Stop basing everything on metrics that aren't giving you a real answer.
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      • Profile picture of the author shane_k
        Originally Posted by cipha View Post

        I thought that competition wise it is harder to rank a site when the top sites have way more backlinks. Is that how it works as far as ranking goes?

        You are correct!

        It is harder to rank a site when the top sites have way more backlinks.

        But ranking a site and making sales are two separate things.

        And a lot of people (newbies, intermediates, and vets) confuse the two and think they are the same thing.

        They are not.

        Looking at the PR of a site, and how many backlinks a site has, will only, and can only tell you how hard it is going to be to rank that site.

        It can't tell you how many people will actually visit your site, nor can it tell you how many of them will buy what you are offering.

        If you only choose a niche by those standards then you are not getting the complete picture and that is where the flaw comes in.

        Not only that, but trying to get your site to rank high in Google, is only one traffic strategy out of many, many traffic strategies out there.

        You could if you chose, not worry about SEO at all, not worry about PR, and backlinking, and still make money.

        How is this possible?

        Well it's possible that you could get all your traffic through PPC, banner advertising, guest commenting on blogs related to your niche, facebook, etc.

        Are you starting to see the bigger picture now?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Probably is easy to make money from... especially if you do your marketing right.
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  • Profile picture of the author cipha
    I am trying to go the route where I do not have to use much money to gain customers. I have not gotten into guest commenting but I definitely will try that, I still have so much more to learn especially on getting traffic because I thought being on the first page of google was the main way to get traffic to a site.

    I would like to know how much traffic others have gotten who are not on the first page of google and if they are still successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    93% of my traffic comes from other sources than Google. Some of it is paid and some of it is free traffic.

    If you want to know more about traffic use the search function and search for the word "traffic" and you will find a bunch of posts with a ton of information.

    In fact go to this thread and check out as many of the links that Adie put in here.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...come-here.html
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  • Profile picture of the author nmb
    The niche may be a lot easier than you think to crack - these figures have probably put many people off before but you will only know how easy it actually is if you test it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allissa
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    tools like traffic travis oversimplify things with their colored lights, so always take that indicator with a large grain of salt! A tool like Market Samurai does a better job in giving you a complete picture of the difficulty of ranking for any particular keyword, since you can "drill down" and find out not just the quantity of links, but also the quality, which is a HUGE factor, though one of over 100 factors Google uses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    The fact that no one knows what the niche you're talking about is, means NOBODY can begin to give a valid answer.

    The niche could have zero commercial intent because of freely available information. Also you said wikipedia was the first result, that will usually mean there is a lot of free info out there.

    Before you waste any of your time trying to squeeze money out of it, make sure its worth it.

    The great thing about the HUGE competitive markets is that there is huge amounts of money flowing through them and all you need to do is direct some of it to you.

    That is actually much easier than breaking a new market.

    Bottom line- be careful who you take advice from, and remember ANYONE can post here.

    That's my 0.02
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