Paypal Myth?

SeanyG · 03-20-2009, 03:24 AM

Hey guys,

So I tried calling Paypal today to get this cleared up and there was too long of a wait on their customer service line.

My question is this:

Can you use PayPal's "Website Payments Standard" transaction system to charge recurring monthly (membership / continuity) payments?

Their site says that you can but I have read in a number of threads on WF that say that the only way someone can pay for recurring billing is if they sign up for a paypal account first.

Is this true or can you set up Paypal just bill monthly using the CC info?

Thanks in advance,

~Sean

SeanyG · 03-20-2009, 02:04 PM

Anyone know?

Neil Morgan · 03-20-2009, 02:13 PM

Hi Sean

I just looked through the guide called "PayPal Subscriptions and Recurring Payments" and the only process it describes is where the subscriber has to sign up for a paypal account.

I didn't see an option to do it by credit card only.

Cheers,

Neil

Jamie Iaconis · 03-20-2009, 02:19 PM

Hi Sean,

Good question...

I know they support recurring monthly payments, but
on the not having an account part, I'm not sure...

Someone should know and chime in at some point!

Jamie

03-20-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Morgan

Hi Sean

I just looked through the guide called "PayPal Subscriptions and Recurring Payments" and the only process it describes is where the subscriber has to sign up for a paypal account.

I didn't see an option to do it by credit card only.

Cheers,

Neil

I'm about 99% sure that Neil is correct about this.

Daret · 03-20-2009, 03:03 PM

I think Neil is right on this one.

SeanyG · 03-20-2009, 03:48 PM

F*** thats not good!

Rob Whisonant · 03-20-2009, 04:22 PM

Last time I joined a membership site it would not let me just join with a credit card. I had to signin to my PayPal account to join. Once inside PayPal it also said if my account did not have enough money in it when the next payment was due it would use my backup funding source to make the payment.

Re's
Rob Whisonant

SeanyG · 03-20-2009, 04:38 PM

Thanks for the reply Rob.

Thats fine for those people that have a paypal account, but most don't. Asking a customer to set up a paypal account, verify and activate their account is a lot to ask.

I probably wouldn't do it if I were a customer.

I finally got through to their customer service and confirmed that customers have to be signed up for a paypal account to purchase a product with recurring billing.

Are there any other viable options other than Clickbank that charge recurring payments on credit cards?

Rob Whisonant · 03-20-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanyG

Thanks for the reply Rob.

Are there any other viable options other than Clickbank that charge recurring payments on credit cards?

Check out ccbill.com They do recurring subscriptions.

Re's
Rob Whisonant

Traffic-Bug · 03-21-2009, 06:19 AM

You need to use paypal subscriptions or paypal billing agreements system for recurring monthly payments

alchemy · 03-21-2009, 06:33 AM

Hi

You can also use 2CheckOut.com - some advantages and some drawbacks compared to Paypal

But if you are using an automated membership script that auto-cancels members if they cancel (and maybe also pays affiliates), then you may be quite limited in which payment services you can use - you'd need to check the script

Note that most Internet Marketers have Paypal accounts - but it could be an issue if you're doing a niche membership site

Alan

Kay King · 03-21-2009, 09:09 AM

I posted the anser below in response to another question about this. Can't tell you WHERE on the paypal site the info is - but it's there if you dig for it.

Quote:

I just went to the source (paypal) and learned you can set up subscriptions and send an invoice through paypal monthly to allow payment from those without paypal account.

Quote:
Bill customers, individuals or groups by email with an invoice, even if they don't have a PayPal account! Include fields for item detail, quantities, tax and shipping. The recipient will receive an email with instructions on how to pay you using PayPal
kay

SeanyG · 03-21-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kay King

I posted the anser below in response to another question about this. Can't tell you WHERE on the paypal site the info is - but it's there if you dig for it.

I just called them and the lady said that they have to be signed up for a paypal account. Its the only way.

03-20-2009, 03:24 AM	#1
SeanyG Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 741 Thanks: 282 Thanked 43 Times in 25 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Paypal Myth? Hey guys, So I tried calling Paypal today to get this cleared up and there was too long of a wait on their customer service line. My question is this: Can you use PayPal's "Website Payments Standard" transaction system to charge recurring monthly (membership / continuity) payments? Their site says that you can but I have read in a number of threads on WF that say that the only way someone can pay for recurring billing is if they sign up for a paypal account first. Is this true or can you set up Paypal just bill monthly using the CC info? Thanks in advance, ~Sean

03-20-2009, 02:04 PM	#2
SeanyG Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 741 Thanks: 282 Thanked 43 Times in 25 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Paypal Myth? Anyone know?

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Neil Morgan Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lanarkshire UK Posts: 2,487 Thanks: 98 Thanked 314 Times in 223 Posts Social Networking	Re: Paypal Myth? Hi Sean I just looked through the guide called "PayPal Subscriptions and Recurring Payments" and the only process it describes is where the subscriber has to sign up for a paypal account. I didn't see an option to do it by credit card only. Cheers, Neil
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SeanyG Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 741 Thanks: 282 Thanked 43 Times in 25 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Paypal Myth? Thanks for the reply Rob. Thats fine for those people that have a paypal account, but most don't. Asking a customer to set up a paypal account, verify and activate their account is a lot to ask. I probably wouldn't do it if I were a customer. I finally got through to their customer service and confirmed that customers have to be signed up for a paypal account to purchase a product with recurring billing. Are there any other viable options other than Clickbank that charge recurring payments on credit cards?

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alchemy Alan Reece - AX Gold War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 283 Thanks: 5 Thanked 47 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Paypal Myth? Hi You can also use 2CheckOut.com - some advantages and some drawbacks compared to Paypal But if you are using an automated membership script that auto-cancels members if they cancel (and maybe also pays affiliates), then you may be quite limited in which payment services you can use - you'd need to check the script Note that most Internet Marketers have Paypal accounts - but it could be an issue if you're doing a niche membership site Alan
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