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Why other are more successful than other WSOs?

by edpudol1973
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I've tried 3 or more times to sell something at WSO but still not making that much. While other are really doing well in their WSO.

Well there are other products that the value or the information they are selling are already sold before in the forum, but still they are making lot of money.

Offer affiliate? I did that also, low price? I did that also, give away a copy in return of review I did that also . but still no success.

What is the missing piece?

I hope those successful warriors in WSO share some tips here.
#successful #wsos
  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Some people are better marketers. Some have better products. There's no secret, and just throwing up a WSO does not mean that anyone is obligated to buy it.

    Welcome to business.
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    • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      Some people are better marketers. Some have better products. There's no secret, and just throwing up a WSO does not mean that anyone is obligated to buy it.

      Welcome to business.
      Agree some have good products, and some are crap. But sometimes good products don't get much sale .

      I must agree, other people are better marketer than others and That is the missing piece in my part. Need to learn how to be a better marketer.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by edpudol1973 View Post

        But sometimes good products don't get much sale .
        And many more times people convince themselves they have good products because they made it, but didn't bother to study/test the market at all. Then they're surprised when they tank it.

        Originally Posted by edpudol1973 View Post

        I must agree, other people are better marketer than others and That is the missing piece in my part. Need to learn how to be a better marketer.
        If you knew the missing piece, what exactly are you asking for :confused:?
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        • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
          Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

          If you knew the missing piece, what exactly are you asking for :confused:?
          Now I know because you mentioned it in your first post. That "some people are better marketers"

          And I believe that is what I am not
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  • Profile picture of the author thelazyone
    I think WSO are succesful because :

    1- The methods works
    2- The methods promise
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  • Profile picture of the author lilc800
    I think warrior forum works like this.

    1. Your name- If you are big here and well known people will buy it without even reading the sales .. They only want it because you wrote it. It takes time to make a good name for yourself but you build one for yourself by simply only putting good content out there.

    2. Price- Always have a good price sometimes you might want to offer something Really low just so people can get a Taste and they will look for what you have to offer next.

    3. Your list- As your selling these products are you building your list? Building a buyers list is really good and it will keep most of the people coming back and buying your "Next big thing" Also you can promote other stuff that you recommend to them and make a little money like that too.

    3. Salespage- Nice good Graphics, Good grammar, Reviews, etc.

    I haven't just yet launched a WSO myself but I know people that have done successful ones or it came from reading WSO's on making WSOs.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    Make some YouTube vids.. I know some people that make videos showing their face and sold a bunch of crap .. it works!
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  • Profile picture of the author HolyWarrior
    I just looked at the two WSOs you have posted, and you have to consider the content of what they are.

    MOST people are opportunity seekers. They see something that says, "New CRAZY Tactic That Makes ClickBank and Amazon Pay Out! $1,000/Month Guaranteed!" and they want to buy because in their own minds they've created a vague idea of something that will allow them to do virtually no work and reap considerable rewards from it.

    These people are called "opportunity seekers" for a reason. Your own WSO isn't purchased as much because it's DESIGNED to be used by people who are going to work, and even though nobody here wants to admit it, there's an aversion to even the mere thought of having to put in any sort of effort, because on a subconscious level most people want to get a lot of money for doing nothing.

    So consider your products. You're selling pages to create backlinks with, which is fine, but the very notion of your product is that somebody is going to have to work to comment on these blogs, or have to work to write a post to put on Odesk to request somebody else to do it for them - in their own minds they can't be bothered to do that.

    This isn't to put a damper on your business, but rather to give you my opinion as to why you're not able to sell your WSO.

    If you find what you're passionate about and leverage it with your strengths, you WILL succeed. Find your passion and focus on it until it's a profitable business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bonita T Josephson
    Reputation plays the bigger role here in WSO selling. As @lilc800 stated that if you become a very well known man in this forum, your WSO likely to get the maximum exposure. Better luck next time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marx Vergel Melencio
      How EXACTLY do you formulate your service or product offers?

      • What are the fundamental concepts behind the formulation of your product or service offers? Keep in mind that the fundamental concepts for the development of your product/service offer should be directly rooted to your objective of giving your target market the fundamental solutions they need to solve their related problems and satisfy their relevant needs that they can neither solve nor satisfy on their own, i.e.

      =>> Backlinks? Yeah, some of your target buyers think they need it. Why? To get top Google SERps and to widen the exposure of their websites, brand name, products and services across multiple channels where their target customers hang out; Why?

      =>> To get more traffic that's most likely interested in their products and services, which in turn could most likely generate more conversions or sales for them; and

      =>> Offshore/Outsourced dedicated services? Yeah, some of your target buyers think they need it. Why? To cut down their overheads while they continue to grow their traffic and conversions or sales, build, grow and expand their businesses. So:

      • What are the fundamental advantages of your service/product offers when compared against competing service/product offers, on top of the fundamental concepts behind the formulation of your service/product offers?

      =>> Price? You wouldn't want to base your livelihood in something that your competitors can quickly and easily circumvent in order to blow you out of the water. This means:

      =>> Innovate. Effectively communicate the benefits of your innovative methodologies that you have integrated into your product/service offers and have tested, improved, redeveloped and proven time and again to produce better results than competing service/product offers. Show them the results of your tests. Inform them how you constantly monitor relevant things to continuously improve the results you get from these innovative methodologies. Then:

      • Set a price structure based on a logical framework that can instantly communicate the value they will get from your product/service offers as comensurate if not higher than the actual value of the price they need to pay you, for the products/services they need in the industry or industries where your business and your product/service offers specialize in. Next:

      • Show them based on the results of your tests the finite value of what's inside your boxed up product/service offers, then substantiate with verifiable facts the infinite value that they can get from what's outside your boxed up product/service offers after they get the benefits offered by what's inside your boxed up product/service offers, and clearly tell them what they should already know at this point:

      =>> Exactly how and why someone who owns your boxed up products/services is more valuable in their industry/industries than those who don't own your boxed up product and service offers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Hi Ed, I think in the light of Google's Penguin update, and marketers' understandable reactions to it, seeing how many Warriors have had their sites heavily penalized, it's maybe a terrible time to be promoting any sort of mass backlinking. I suspect that's the main problem, here.

        I'd think your other, various LexorSoft services have a much better chance of appealing to Warriors, in the current SEO climate. I must say, if I wanted to employ a full-time a virtual assistant, your company is one of the first places I'd think of. But mass backlinking? Not so much ...

        Originally Posted by Bonita T Josephson View Post

        Reputation plays the bigger role here in WSO selling.
        It does indeed, but Ed's reputation here, and that of his business, are very good and very well established.
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    reputation plays the bigger role
    +1
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  • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
    Originally Posted by edpudol1973 View Post

    I've tried 3 or more times to sell something at WSO but still not making that much. While other are really doing well in their WSO.

    Well there are other products that the value or the information they are selling are already sold before in the forum, but still they are making lot of money.

    Offer affiliate? I did that also, low price? I did that also, give away a copy in return of review I did that also . but still no success.

    What is the missing piece?

    I hope those successful warriors in WSO share some tips here.
    I checked out a couple of your ads and two things that say stop were,
    the copy and the price.
    try to add some graphics to your copy and lower your prices.
    make it appealing to someone who doesn't want to work.

    last thing I think with services you might be able to do that better somewhere else
    besides a wso. try, looking at what's hott in a wso. plugins, video software, graphics, how to's, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Haroon Ballim
      Hi

      Its really about two things getting the top affiliates to market your product [ easier said than done ] and having a killer sales copy , unfortunately.

      Your products may be great but unless you get the exposure that top affiliates can give you , than you going to struggle to sell as there are just too many competing offers on the forum for people to see all.

      Have you considered asking digi results or the guys from IM Buzz to market your product . They are easier to communicate with than many others and will reply to your communication.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamiebarclay
    Hi Ed,

    Here is my feedback.

    With your sales copy tell me how you will make my life better.

    Sell me on the lifestyle of working less and earning more as a result of using your backlink list.

    Your Sales copy is very focused on the product and the features.

    Focus on Benefits, Benefits, Benefits.

    Tell me how my life will be better.

    When you get a good converting sales page the affiliates will flood to promote your offer.

    See this as a learning process and get a good copywriter or apply a proven copy writing process to your sales page.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    An average product with great marketing will do very well.

    A great product with average marketing won't do so well.

    The difference = marketing. It's what attracts your affiliates and customers.

    Let's face it. Every WSO product that has sold thousands of copies was once just a product sitting on someone's computer making no money. The only way it started making money was by bringing it to market and alerting people to its existence.
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  • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
    HollyWarrior that's great tip mate thank you for sharing such a good information. jamiebarclay I'll keep that in mind.

    Actually guys I made this question not only for my self but for everyone who want to be successful at WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Spencer
    Originally Posted by edpudol1973 View Post

    What is the missing piece?

    If your product is worth buying it should sell itself.

    Don't think beyond that sentence. That is your missing piece.

    (assuming you are, at a minimum: "new" to marketing)
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Copywriting has to be somewhat decent, but not amazing.

    Meanwhile, what I'm learning with some help from Jason Fladlien's products is that the offer itself is the most important part.

    If you have an amazing offer- one where people says "I'd be CRAZY not to jump on this" then it will sell well.
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    • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post


      Meanwhile, what I'm learning with some help from Jason Fladlien's products is that the offer itself is the most important part.

      If you have an amazing offer- one where people says "I'd be CRAZY not to jump on this" then it will sell well.
      I will take note this and I believe you're right
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulLester
    There are several factors behind success or failure of any product:

    1)It is not desired by masses:If your product don't appeal to a lot of people,there are very few chances that it'll ever make you a lot of money.

    2)Poor sales copy:If your sales letter cannot get your prospects excited,if it fails to deliver your message,there is a great probability that they'll not buy your product.

    3)Lack of affiliates:In any big product launch,affiliates deliver over 90% of the sales.So you'll need to have a few heavy hitters on board to get the ball rolling.

    Getting affiliates is tricky and attracting super affiliates is even more difficult.If you don't have a solid reputation and a big list to reciprocate,the quailty of your product is the only thing that is going to work in your favor.

    Offer 100% commissions and free review copies to top guys and some of them may pay attention.Once you have a few of them and have conversions to show,it becomes much easier to get others.The whole things works like a "snowball" effect.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
    The missing piece is the stuff in between - the copy, the product, the relevance of the product and how well it fits the market.

    Sometimes, your own confidence in your own product can get in the way. Unless you convince people that they need your product and they must get it now, then they will never take out their wallets and buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author TerranceCharles
    First, it comes down to TOPIC. Then it comes down to copywriting. Then it comes down to JV partners/affiliates to promote
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