1ShoppingCart Alternatives?

15 years ago

I was about to recommend infusion. But for your case try zoom cart pro. Its a new service but i can vouch for em. they does all that 1sc do, + they do offer one click upsell.

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Rolliesworld

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Albert Steven

I was about to recommend infusion. But for your case try zoom cart pro. Its a new service but i can vouch for em. they does all that 1sc do, + they do offer one click upsell.

Albert, I am also currently looking for an "all-in-one solution" to start with and I checked out Zoom Cart Pro's website ... what confuses me is that it looks exactly like dozens of other sales websites that all appear to be promoting exactly the same product as QuickPayPro...???

I came across QuickPayPro recently and while it sounds a very good deal, there appear to be multiple sites promoting (previous versions?) at lower monthly charges, and some even sell the original script for as low as $4.00 (four)...???

Anyone knows anything about QuickPayPro and their Private Label partners?

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dbarnum

15 years ago

Paypal has a virtual cart and some other merchant account cart tools and features, so might want to check with them for more full features that you could use.

ProStores (thru Ebay) http://prostores.com has lots of bells and whistles, too. You can often get a good deal through eBay (like first month half off or free trial, something like that) or check Paypal's ads for discount coupon offers, too.

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JP Wilson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by richpeck

If I were to use 1SC I would have to get the $100/month package... and I just can't justify that for a shopping cart.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Rich

Truthfully Rich, for everything that 1ShoppingCart does, it's well worth the 100 bucks a month... and then some. I use it and am exceptionally satisfied with how well it works for my business. The only feature that I wish was included is "risk free" upsell technology. I had to have a custom plug-in integrated into the system to accomplish this, but now it practically does everything I need.

When you take into consideration the fact that people spend tens of thousands of dollars customizing expensive shopping cart solutions, paying $100 per month for one that does virtually the same thing (of course without all the bells and whistles) is quite justifiable.

Another great option is QuickPayPro (as mentioned above). It has a built-in "risk free upsell" feature automatically included. You'll still be paying around the same monthly price for the premium package though. But you'll be hard-pressed to find something that does everything that you want and also has substantial customer backing for much less than the $100 going rate...

However, if you do... please share with the rest of us.

Cheers

PS
Rollie, QPP is great. Dustin (the owner) is very thorough and is always updating the system with the newest technology. I've also seen Matt Trainers version (zoom cart) which I'm sure is equally great. Either one you choose, I don't believe you'll go wrong.

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Rolliesworld

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JP Wilson

Truthfully Rich, for everything that 1ShoppingCart does, it's well worth the 100 bucks a month... and then some. I use it and am exceptionally satisfied with how well it works for my business. The only feature that I wish was included is "risk free" upsell technology. I had to have a custom plug-in integrated into the system to accomplish this, but now it practically does everything I need.

But you would still input each order manually, right? Is it the optimizeyourcart plugin you are using? I would really want it all automated, is that going to be possible with 1ShoppingCart anytime soon?

Another great option is QuickPayPro (as mentioned above). It has a built-in "risk free upsell" feature automatically included. You'll still be paying around the same monthly price for the premium package though. But you'll be hard-pressed to find something that does everything that you want and also has substantial customer backing for much less than the $100 going rate...
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Rollie, QPP is great. Dustin (the owner) is very thorough and is always updating the system with the newest technology. I've also seen Matt Trainers version (zoom cart) which I'm sure is equally great. Either one you choose, I don't believe you'll go wrong.

What is your own experience with QPP? In terms of affiliate management and email/autoresponder/follow-up marketing?
I am still confused about the fact that there are so many branded and old versions of this service to be found on the Internet - the list of features in QUICKPAYPRO really sounds extremely good, but I would like to hear more from those actually using it - anyone? :rolleyes:

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JP Wilson

15 years ago

1shoppingcart has a superior affiliate program has been used to operate multimillion dollar launches. Apart from infusionsoft, it's the highest recommended shopping cart solution among internet marketers across the entire community. As I stated in the above post, if you're not willing to pay the $100 price tag for all the features you want, you might as well settle for a solution that's a little less advanced... or one that hasn't got nearly as many recommendations and social proof surrounding it.

As far as the 1click upsell plug-in is concerned, yes you have to import the upsell orders manually, but it's quick and as simple as pie. The only time it would get a bit time-consuming is if you're holding a launch (which won't be happening everyday) and you've got a huge volume of orders (100 or more) being processed at the same time, in which case you could always just outsource the data entry on elance or guru.com. It's not a problem.

I don't believe that they are planning to integrate automated 1click upsell technology into their system anytime soon, but the above-mentioned plug-in works extremely well for my purposes. Hell, if it was good enough for Belcher, it's good enough for me...

In all honesty I tried out QuickPayPro (which does have 1click upsell technology pre-programmed into the platform), but went back to 1shoppingcart only because it was a better overall fit for my business. I found the interface quite a bit more streamline and much easier to manage in 1SC. Also, customer support is second to none, which is very important to me when dealing with a platform that's essentially managing some of the most critical aspects of my business. I don't much use the autoresponder, because I've got getresponse for that but I've heard that it's got pretty good email deliverability.

In fairness to QPP, however, after I left, they asked me to send them a brief email explaining why I was no longer interested in their services. Well, there was nothing brief about the message I sent to them. And a month later, I received an email from Dustin (the owner) telling me that all of the recommendations that I had for them to improve their platform had been implemented based on my feedback... and let me tell you, I recommended some pretty advanced technical improvements and each and every one of them were taken under serious advisement and subsequently implemented into the system. Now, how many large-scale companies can you say that about? Not many. So you can see why I would still be inclined to recommend QPP as an excellent alternative option to 1SC.

All in all, the cost-benefit analysis that you did above should pretty much answer your own question for you. Is 1shoppingcart worth the money? I think that it is, and so do thousands of other marketers who use it to on a daily basis. But, to each his own, and I suppose it all depends on the way that you look at your business and what you want to accomplish with it... Choose the best fit for you.

Best of luck to you Rollie.

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Rolliesworld

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JP Wilson

1shoppingcart has a superior affiliate program has been used to operate multimillion dollar launches. Apart from infusionsoft, it's the highest recommended shopping cart solution among internet marketers across the entire community.

Is their tracking system reliable? I actually contacted their support last night to ask them what exact technology they are using, and all they said it was "cookie based".
On 1Automationwiz's website (PL version of 1SC) it says:
"Amazing cookie-less tracking for your affiliates"

1AutomationWiz offers complete cookie duration control:

Amazing cookie-less tracking for your affiliates.
Impression based tracking for all media types*
You can even pay your affiliates using PayPal's mass pay option..
IP-based Tracking for clicks and impressions.
Impression based tracking for all media types

On another website that is using 1SC's affiliate system it was stated that if a user (=affiliate's referral) deletes their cookies, then another follow up email sent by the merchant would ensure another cookie would be dropped in the user's browser if they open the link contained in it.
This I found pretty cool, but I can't see this explained on 1SC's website, and their support obviously did not explain or know.

On another note, I was checking out 1SC setups on some websites, and while I was playing around on WP-Wishlist's after a couple of clicks a message said my IP was banned ....is that normal?

Originally Posted by JP Wilson

As I stated in the above post, if you're not willing to pay the $100 price tag for all the features you want, you might as well settle for a solution that's a little less advanced... or one that hasn't got nearly as many recommendations and social proof surrounding it..

It wasn't actually me who said $100 is too much - I am not overly concerned about that if a system does what I need. I guess I have done the cost analysis more in response to a previous statement reading Ultracard was "half the price" of 1SC (and I went into great detail

Originally Posted by JP Wilson

All in all, the cost-benefit analysis that you did above should pretty much answer your own question for you...

Only based on cost, the benefits are way more important to me - as it should be for everyone.

Originally Posted by JP Wilson

As far as the 1click upsell plug-in is concerned, yes you have to import the upsell orders manually, but it's quick and as simple as pie.

Question here (and remember it is all theory for me so far):
Would I actually have to have a separate merchant account on top of 1SC or QPP to be able to do 1click upsells, or can this be done by using Paypal (you can pay using your credit card via paypal checkout)?
Sorry if the answer to this question may seem too obvious to you...
If so, the fees of a merchant account would come on top for each order, right? Which payment gateway can I choose being in Australia? 2CO seem to charge 5.5% for each transaction? Does this compare to 2.4% for Paypal?
I do not want to give the impression I am chasing the cheapest set up, I just need to understand what options I have. Thanks!

Originally Posted by JP Wilson

I don't much use the autoresponder, because I've got getresponse for that but I've heard that it's got pretty good email deliverability.

So I can integrate a 3rd party autoresponder into 1SC? Or are you using Getresponse separately, which means your customer data in 1SC does not interact with your list in Getresponse?

You see, this is really getting to the bottom of what I want. I am a BIG picture person, and I know that even though I am only starting out (after having researched "every facet" of IM "every night for 6 months"), what I want on the the long term is a system set up where I am in full control of all optin leads, customers and affiliates. I will want to be able to segment my lists based on what they bought, when they bought it, if they took an upsell or downsell, if they became an affiliate and then nurture a continuous relationship based on that intelligence.

I may be overshooting a bit, and maybe I should be "just starting" (as some people start with a cheap $5 p/m e-junkie account or CB, but I just see the huge potential of using a proper set-up with affiliate management and a fully integrated solution. If I start out 'cheap' then I may get stuck with one particular set up if it grows exponentially all in a sudden.

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jamawebinc

15 years ago

Originally Posted by richpeck

Hey everyone,

Looking to start offering some backend products, etc from my site... and I need to be able to have a shopping cart that's as flexible as 1SC... except a lot less expensive.

Here's an idea of what I need:

1. I need it to be as flexible as 1SC - with customizable checkout pages, etc
2. I need to be able to offer an affiliate program to my customers
3. It needs to have the ability for upsells / cross-sells

Etc

Anyone got any ideas?

If I were to use 1SC I would have to get the $100/month package... and I just can't justify that for a shopping cart.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Rich

Look into ultracart.

It can do everything 1sc can do and then some.
1 click upsell after the initial sale is built into the system

The price is about half of 1sc

They also have live support, they can customize features for you based on your wants and needs.

Sometimes you almost feel as though the cart was built specifically for your own needs.

And it has built in integration with autoresponder services like aweber, getresponse, icontatc, mailchimp, and more..

Shopping Cart Software by UltraCart - E-Commerce Solutions

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Rolliesworld

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jamawebinc

Look into ultracart.

It can do everything 1sc can do and then some.
1 click upsell after the initial sale is built into the system

The price is about half of 1sc

They also have live support, they can customize features for you based on your wants and needs.

Sometimes you almost feel as though the cart was built specifically for your own needs.

And it has built in integration with autoresponder services like aweber, getresponse, icontatc, mailchimp, and more..

Shopping Cart Software by UltraCart - E-Commerce Solutions

:rolleyes: How well does the autoresponder integration work - could anyone comment?

I am still looking for a good solid all-in-one eBusiness solution, therefore cannot speak from experience of using either, but speaking of price comparison .....

UltraCart's minimum price @$49.95 may be half of 1Shoppingcart's Professional package @$99pm (which includes affiliate management), however at those prices:

1. Ultracard:
-for $49.95 it allows up to 250 items listed or income is not to exceed $50k in any month (if you earn over $100k p/m the base charge is $154.95)
-it does not come with an autoresponder, only integrates with them. If you add the cost of Mailchimp for instance, it will be an additional minimum $10 - $75 p/m (it is $75 if you compare with 1Shoppingcart's 10,000 limit for $99 all inclusive rate).
Therefore, it depends how you compare costs. If you only have a list of 500 subscribers you could pick mailchimp for $10 and if you earn less than $50k in any given month (most of us would), then it would be the additional $49.95 = $59.95 p/m

Then again, I am not sure if Ultracard has affiliate tracking/management included in the package. A couple of people have said it is included, but I cannot find any infos on their website - :confused: any thoughts?

2. 1Shoppingcart

It is true that it's a definite $99 p/m which includes autoresponder and affiliate management. So starting out with a tiny list and no affiliate means paying more compared to Ultracard in conjunction with Mailchimp (if you choose other AR services like aweber or Getresponse you will pay the same or more in total monthly costs right from start).

My questions on 1Shoppingcart are :confused: :
- How reliable and good are their autoresponders / email delivery and how does it compare with Mailchimp for list segmentation for instance?
- Is the affiliate program any good? What tracking method are they using?
- There appear to be a number of Private Label sites selling 1Shoppingcart services under their banner, i.e. 1automationwiz, salesautomator, netofficetoolbox etc - some are saying it is a cookie-less tracking system...do they use a mix of cookies and IP and/or email address of prospect?
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Will they have a 1-CLICK UPSELL system integrated soon...???

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Josh Anderson

15 years ago

We offer a great alternative to 1shoppingcart that meets the requirements you listed and more at http://nanacast.com

1. Authorize.net, NMI, Durango Merchant Services gateways for US, Canadian, and International merchant accounts supported. Application access provided if you need one.

We also work with Paypal and 2checkout.

2. One click upsell/downsell integration for credit card orders and upsell/downsell integrated for free/paypal/2checkout orders (non one click for those).

3. Superior affiliate tracking and management using ip and cookie based tracking plus smart anti affiliate theft detection which rewards the legit affiliate and screws the theif.

4. In addition we have integrated membership, digital, and physical on demand print product (all types including cd/dvd, books, print newsletters, and combo packs) delivery. Our system also has rss and podcast publishing tools for publishing free, private, and paid subscriber feeds. Any number of these product types can be integrated into one offering and combined with a membership.

5. We can do physical continuity, bundling, and micro continuity.

6. We can automate instant, real time broadcast, driped over time (prescheduled auto responder type) and even individual broadcast (sent to individual subscriber) content deliver for any content type including online membership, rss, podcast, and even physical on demand print.

7. We automate the adding and removal of subscribers to your lists at Aweber (via the Nanacast parser in your aweber account) and getresponse (via their api).

8. We also have one of the best coupon and automatic bonus delivery systems you will find.

Our basic package costs the same as 1sc and our Preium Package is $47 more.

I believe our system can make people more money by using it. Just ad one upsell to any offer and you can pretty much count on increasing your bottom line by 20% or more...

If you cannot "justify" the cost of a solution that helps you automate your business and makes you more money than you would otherwise make then you may want to take another look at your current business model...

Even if you stuck with one shopping cart you would likely be better off since most other options would be like doing a downgrade to your business just to save a few bucks a month will benefit your business.

What would truly benefit your business is adding more potential for revenue by automating more of it and adding upsells and downsells to the mix. Nanacast can provide all that you loved about 1sc and everything you whished 1sc would have done for you but without the hassle of having to piece together a bunch of scripts without ever truly meeting your needs.

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Rolliesworld

15 years ago