My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!!

Raydal · 03-20-2009, 04:44 PM

I just submitted an article to EA which I wrote about 7 years ago.
I had submitted this to an article directory. The article was
rejected by EA because it was already on another site.

So I did a check and found my article on a ton of site with
no author resource box. Even popular marketers who should
know better.

Just do a search for "7 Secrets To Building Your Online Credibility"
and you'll see what I mean. It's a waste of time for me to
contact all these websites--so I really don't know what is the
lesson here ...

Phew!

-Ray Edwards

Sam Rodrigo · 03-20-2009, 04:50 PM

Ray,

Why not improve the article or update if you can and resubmit?

Sam

Joshua Uebergang · 03-20-2009, 04:52 PM

That's some fine distribution you got there Ray. I imagine time has a lot to do with it. Did you just submit it manually to a few major directories seven years ago?

Perhaps you can contact a couple of the bigger sites, the ones that would bring you traffic, with an author bio in the email. Or outsource it.

Droopy Dawg · 03-20-2009, 04:53 PM

Join the club man... it happens to everybody. The bad thing is that there's really nothing you can do about it

Raydal · 03-20-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Rodrigo

Ray,

Why not improve the article or update if you can and resubmit?

Sam

That is possible bit it still doesn't give me credit for my original
work. I'm still surprised by the "big websites" that are using my
article as though they wrote it.

-Ray Edwards

Raydal · 03-20-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua Uebergang

That's some fine distribution you got there Ray. I imagine time has a lot to do with it. Did you just submit it manually to a few major directories seven years ago?

Perhaps you can contact a couple of the bigger sites, the ones that would bring you traffic, with an author bio in the email. Or outsource it.

That was one of my original articles I wrote when I was just testing
my hand at article writing. I think I submitted it to one article
directory back then. So I guess it's because of the long time why
it has gone so far. But interestingly a lot of sites have only
recently posted it on their blogs-AS THOUGH THEY WROTE IT???

-Ray Edwards

Allen Graves · 03-20-2009, 04:58 PM

They may not know, Ray. It could have been sold in a PLR package or as a bonus to another product.

AL

p.s. This is why you should get a link in the body of your article along with a text version of the URI.

HQArticleWriting · 03-20-2009, 05:00 PM

sorry to hear about that Ray. must be darn good content!

Joshua's idea is good if the time is worth it about contacting the larger sites and getting credit (and traffic!) from the site. shoot'em an email, if not give a call.

Bryan Zimmerman · 03-20-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg

Join the club man... it happens to everybody. The bad thing is that there's really nothing you can do about it

Yep, I was searching for where a couple of my articles were in the serps today and found two different sites that had one of my articles on it with no resource box. And to top it all off they were ranking higher than my original article they stole. Just made me laugh a little, even though it shouldn't have.

Raydal · 03-20-2009, 05:11 PM

It seems as though a lot of blogs are using it to promote Commission Blue Print.
I've seen a few blogs who are using mt article then referring to CB at the end.

Just look at this Google results:

All lost links and credit for me.

-Ray Edwards

GeorgR. · 03-20-2009, 05:12 PM

well, sorry, this is the internet.

With all the autoblogs out there (me having a bunch myself)...yes, they go out and get articles...and not ALWAYS is the resource box kept.

EZA and all those directories are not without a reason called "article mills"...and yes, their main purpose is to distribute content which is used and re-used all over the web.

If you submit an article to any such directory, you must also expect your articles to appear on many, many other sites.

I myself am often amazed to see people complain about this.

This is as absurd as publishing a RSS feed and wondering why the content appears on some other sites

Add: this being said, i am not saying its is legal or ethical to reuse the articles without the resource boxes intact..is just how it is. SOME sites keep them, some just take the content and cut off links and resource boxes. Look at popular plugins like caffeinated content, how they work.

Nick Brighton · 03-20-2009, 05:17 PM

Hi Ray,

How did they get hold of the original? Do you mean you submitted it to a directory 7 years ago and now you're unable to resubmit to EZA?

Either way, take it as a form of flattery...you know that plagiarists cannot keep up with the smart creators, and you're a smart creator.

Let them have it, and secretly create a new killer article that somehow creates a juxtaposition against the original...

...play one off the other.

"Why my article 7 Secrets was a lie..."

"Why 7 ways to build online credibility article was missing this crucial truth..."

"The real truth about building online credibility and why it takes more than 7..."

Etc. Etc.

Raydal · 03-20-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Brighton

Hi Ray,

How did they get hold of the original? Do you mean you submitted it to a directory 7 years ago and now you're unable to resubmit to EZA?

Either way, take it as a form of flattery...you know that plagiarists cannot keep up with the smart creators, and you're a smart creator.

Let them have it, and secretly create a new killer article that somehow creates a juxtaposition against the original...

...play one off the other.

"Why my article 7 Secrets was a lie..."

"Why 7 ways to build online credibility article was missing this crucial truth..."

"The real truth about building online credibility and why it takes more than 7..."

Etc. Etc.

I think I like your idea Nick. Maybe I should write another article
about how my article was stolen--not a bad idea.

Sometimes instead of fighting the wind you just hoist a sail.

-Ray Edwards

Pam M · 03-20-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Brighton

"Why my article 7 Secrets was a lie..."

"Why 7 ways to build online credibility article was missing this crucial truth..."

"The real truth about building online credibility and why it takes more than 7..."

Etc. Etc.

Great article ideas! I can understand if or why Ray
wouldn't want to write a new one, but this plan is
a pretty good strategy for making lemonade out of
lemons, I think.

Pam

Nick Brighton · 03-20-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raydal

I think I like your idea Nick. Maybe I should write another article
about how my article was stolen--not a bad idea.

Sometimes instead of fighting the wind you just hoist a sail.

-Ray Edwards

Exactly. I used to freak about things like competition, then I realized that most of them are so weak that all I have to do is turn their own guns on them and they will soon shoot themselves in their clumsy own feet...

When they wanna play with your gun, let them. Just don't tell them that it has a kickback strong enough to break their wrist

Yeah, writing about how your article has been ripped off is another further twist too.

"My most ripped off article...how I made a viral masterpiece"

"Here's how to get ripped off, and respected online"

"Why plagiarism can pay off for the victim, and sucks for the plagiarist"

...and on and on.

In fact, you could write hundreds...and this would only help people seek out your ORIGINAL article, to "see where it all started"...

There's always a way to turn a neg to a pos.

jmidas · 03-20-2009, 05:34 PM

It is unfortunate, but anyone who writes a lot and writes well is going to face this at some point. People are gonna grab things when it suits them.

As crappy as it is, I would just chalk it up to a bad experience and move on before it you lose sleep over it or it takes away from your current productivity.

yesacpow · 03-20-2009, 05:39 PM

I have the same problem with a lot of my articles. Recently I was checking to see where my articles are ranked and to my surpise several blogs and websites had my articles without my resource boxex

Awe well just gotta move on

GeorgR. · 03-20-2009, 05:40 PM

articles go viral, its a GOOD thing. Some of them i found actually DO have links still in them..

Raydal · 03-20-2009, 05:48 PM

I can 'understand' article scraping and auto-blogging and all that
stuff. What I was surprised about was the number of 'respectable'
sites where the owners had their name as the author of the article.

These are not 'spam blogs' for adsense.

These are no 'newbies', these are people who have been marketing
for years online. I just thought they should know better.

-Ray Edwards

Steven Wagenheim · 03-20-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raydal

I just submitted an article to EA which I wrote about 7 years ago.
I had submitted this to an article directory. The article was
rejected by EA because it was already on another site.

So I did a check and found my article on a ton of site with
no author resource box. Even popular marketers who should
know better.

Just do a search for "7 Secrets To Building Your Online Credibility"
and you'll see what I mean. It's a waste of time for me to
contact all these websites--so I really don't know what is the
lesson here ...

Phew!

-Ray Edwards

Ray, this is the reason why I submit my articles to EZA before I put them
on my blog.

This way, there is nothing for anybody to steal until after the directory gets
it and then I can still put it on my blog.

Raydal · 03-20-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Ray, this is the reason why I submit my articles to EZA before I put them
on my blog.

This way, there is nothing for anybody to steal until after the directory gets
it and then I can still put it on my blog.

Actually I did post this article to a directory (I don't remember which one
it was so long ago) but was hoping to post it with EA when I got the
rejection because the article wasn't mines.

Even if the article was 'spun', but every word remains the same.

-Ray Edwards

Bruce NewMedia · 03-20-2009, 08:59 PM

wow Ray, you're right! ... a bunch of folks are claiming authorship of your article. That is not good. Do you suppose you could have thwarted this if you had known about it years ago?

I think the problem is you're too good a writer Ray. These fools all like to copy from the best :-) (I read it btw, it's a good article)

...anyway, the idea to write an article about, for instance, HOW 'ARTICLE CHEATERS' ARE RUINING LEGITIMATE AUTHORS is a good one. Thats a way to capitalize on this.

It would seem to me every article directory would want to feature an article about that topic.
_____
Bruce

IM Headlines · 03-20-2009, 09:13 PM

Learn from your mistakes!

FIRST
Submit your articles to Ezine

Then you can submit it to other directories, but you must always submit it to Ezinearticles first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raydal

I just submitted an article to EA which I wrote about 7 years ago.
I had submitted this to an article directory. The article was
rejected by EA because it was already on another site.

So I did a check and found my article on a ton of site with
no author resource box. Even popular marketers who should
know better.

Just do a search for "7 Secrets To Building Your Online Credibility"
and you'll see what I mean. It's a waste of time for me to
contact all these websites--so I really don't know what is the
lesson here ...

Phew!

-Ray Edwards

GeorgR. · 03-20-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raydal

I can 'understand' article scraping and auto-blogging and all that
stuff. What I was surprised about was the number of 'respectable'
sites where the owners had their name as the author of the article.

These are not 'spam blogs' for adsense.

These are no 'newbies', these are people who have been marketing
for years online. I just thought they should know better.

-Ray Edwards

i understand. But...see it from the other side:

I myself have a bunch of health related blogs. I am not running them without a reason, but because tehy are supposed to make money.
(Reviews, Ads, CB affiliates....things like that)

Now...i see articles getting pulled (if its an autoblog)...say "the best candida cure".....appearing on my blog. There is only a problem: The article has affiliate links from someone ELSE in it, blatantly asking every reader of the article to click on his link .)

This is pretty much a problem...

Eric Lorence · 03-20-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a-marketing

Learn from your mistakes!

FIRST
Submit your articles to Ezine

Then you can submit it to other directories, but you must always submit it to Ezinearticles first.

Probably not good advice...

Submit to your own site first, why write original content to boost another site like EZA?

Write and work for you own web property, don't work for someone else.

Rus Sells · 03-20-2009, 09:35 PM

I know how you feel, back in 2005 I created a SWEET flier for my salesmen to use. It had such success that I put it on the front page of my web site in bullet form. 2 years later I got a wild hair and did the Google for the title phrase. I found 4 competitors who had copied it and other content from my site!

I made some phone calls and intimidated a couple of them to remove my content and just last week I got word press to completely delete several blog post's after I showed them the archived version of my page from archive.org. At first word press told me that their content was not similar enough to remove it. I had to reply back with several links, content quotes and directions where to find it in the blog post's.

Word Press mailed me back later that day and informed me that they deleted the content and contacted the creator of blog about it! Woot! Vindicated!

IM Headlines · 03-20-2009, 09:47 PM

You are absolutely right!

BUT

If you are going to submit your articles to a directory, you must make sure that you always submit them to ezine first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Lorence

Probably not good advice...

Submit to your own site first, why write original content to boost another site like EZA?

Write and work for you own web property, don't work for someone else.

Daisuke · 03-20-2009, 09:58 PM

You only have 218 sites you'll have to complain to :P

Dan C. Rinnert · 03-20-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

They may not know, Ray. It could have been sold in a PLR package or as a bonus to another product.

You're absolutely right. It was, and still is, sold as PLR. On WF, in fact.

I have sent Raydal a PM with a link to the WSO.

Will Edwards · 03-21-2009, 03:35 AM

Yes - it happens all the time. I have found other people copying my articles without credit and even publishing my newsletters as content on their sites.

If your content is being picked up by RSS, see if you can get your links into your RSS Feed. If it's being copied by people, especially those who know better, they may have fallen foul of buying dubious PLR content.

There was a guy here in the forum (no names etc) who sold a 'PLR' pack of articles which had clearly been written by other authors - some of the articles had resource boxes intact.

Now, he said he had the rights to do that - i.e. to sell them as PLR. And, I am not saying he did anything wrong either, but it made me - personally - question the remaining content. So I immediately deleted it when my suspicions were aroused.

Again, I have no gripes against this fellow. I am merely pointing out that - either by accident or design - some people may not fully understand the concept of PLR; or perhaps do not share the same concept.

There is nothing - except morals and ethics - to stop unscrupulous people grabbing your stuff and marketing it as PLR. Perhaps something similar happened to your article in this case.

It's a problem for all good writers - which we all know you are.

Best wishes,

Will

Jon Alexander · 03-21-2009, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Lorence

Probably not good advice...

Submit to your own site first, why write original content to boost another site like EZA?

Write and work for you own web property, don't work for someone else.

as wagglerheimy just said - beccause it may get stolen, and then ezinearticles wont publish it.

Makabongwe Maseko · 03-21-2009, 05:17 AM

Hi Ray,

What I want to know is that are you still getting traffic from that article you submitted 7 years ago. I sure you must have sites with your original bio.

Thanks.

KentuckyJeff · 03-21-2009, 05:19 AM

I had the same thing happen, but not to that extent.

I'm still pretty new at Internet Marketing and thought articles would be a great (free) way to start. I submitted several articles to EZA, and after a while I did some searching and found one of my articles published on a site. Which looked to be a good, professional looking site, I was actually excited at first, until I saw that it was published without the resource box.

It was kind of a major let-down, but I guess there's always going to be some people that will do things 'their way.'

One uplifting thing though, I was using a redirect on one of the links in each of those first articles, and I got my first Clickbank sale from one of them. So I looked at it as proof that it is worth writing articles.

I guess you take the good with the bad and hope that there's more good!

It just sucks that it's so easy to rip-off another guy's work. I would imagine at least one of your thieves is reading about him/herself in this thread. If they are - YOU SUCK!!

activetrader · 03-21-2009, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raydal

I just submitted an article to EA which I wrote about 7 years ago.
I had submitted this to an article directory. The article was
rejected by EA because it was already on another site.

So I did a check and found my article on a ton of site with
no author resource box. Even popular marketers who should
know better.

Just do a search for "7 Secrets To Building Your Online Credibility"
and you'll see what I mean. It's a waste of time for me to
contact all these websites--so I really don't know what is the
lesson here ...

Phew!

-Ray Edwards

Getb over it and move on! Big deal! Happens all the time

visitsingapore · 03-21-2009, 05:31 AM

Well..I read about this article when I did a google search, really a lot of similar links and contents are almost like 99% similar it not 100% the same. I am consider new in article writing. i am sorry to learn about Raydal's (Ray L. Edwards case), I saw one website acknowlede the author: Ray Edwards Article for freelancers: 7 Secrets To Building Your Online Credibility
Is this the same person??

Eric Lorence · 03-21-2009, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Alexander

as wagglerheimy just said - beccause it may get stolen, and then ezinearticles wont publish it.

And so what if they don't?

EZA is not the "end all be all" of article marketing- that is a myth.

You don't "need" to be published on EZA to do effective article marketing.

If we have little control over over our content once it's published...

At least it would be indexed first on your own site.

Ross Dalangin · 03-21-2009, 06:05 AM

Welcome to the club! It happens all the time. I think someone submitted it to article directories with oro without your approval before that is why many sites are using it now.

Ross

Mario Brown · 03-21-2009, 07:03 AM

I also think that you should move on and focus on new articles. Happens all the time and it makes no sense to waste time & energy contemplating what to do against it because it will happen again.

Affiliate Marketing isn't a game, it's all about money and therefore it's a Sharks World out there unfortunately. Some (lots) out there will do whatever they can to use cookiestuffing, steal your sale, steal your traffic from hub pages and squidoo lenses, steal your article and use dirtey scripts and what not.

That's just another reason why I completely switched to product creation. Shall others fight this war to rank higher and make more sales.
Now at least they are pushing my product and I get the sale, doesn't matter which affiliate won the fight.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see that everybody out there is nice and playing fair game - but the truth is that this is one of the most competitive markets out there and and it's all about 'eat or get eaten' IMO.

2 cents - mario

John Henderson · 03-21-2009, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Brighton

Either way, take it as a form of flattery...you know that plagiarists cannot keep up with the smart creators, and you're a smart creator.

Let them have it, and secretly create a new killer article that somehow creates a juxtaposition against the original...

...play one off the other.

Nick's absolutely right. In "Liar's Poker", a colleague takes the credit for the author's creation of a financial deal:

Quote:

My degree in art history finally served my career. I knew all about frauds. Ask yourself: What would a painter do if a rival stole his work and put his name on it? He'd paint a replica and issue a challenge for the rival to do the same. And that's what I did. (...) We conceived another deal, similar enough to the first to be unmistakably from the same hand.

So Ray, I'm looking forward to reading "Secrets 8, 9 and 10 to building your online credibility".

gabibeowulf · 03-21-2009, 07:48 AM

Well ... This is really a good thing

) .. I don't know why you're complaining about it ..

You now have the opportunity to contact all the article websites and tell them to post your resource box as you're the original writer and can prove so or be prepared for legal action

Either way, you're still wining something

rapidscc · 03-21-2009, 07:53 AM

Hi Ray,

Well one thing's sure. You are one good writer. Don't cry over spilled milk. It doesn't do any good.

Just build, build, build....These things happen to the best of us...

:-)

Omar

ways2earn · 03-21-2009, 07:59 AM

Ray,

this sounds ridiculous all your hardwork's undone by these people. There should be some way to stop these people who just steel the credibility and yet they never confess atleast who the original author was.

dave147 · 03-21-2009, 11:04 AM

I had one of my articles posted on a blog a couple of months ago without my bio ref and ezineartricles wouldn't publish it because it was elsewhere. (should have posted it there first) I made a comment on the blog to remove it or add my bio. Must go back and see did that make a difference.

cmbwealth · 03-21-2009, 11:17 AM

Unfortunately plagerism has been going on for a lot longer than any of us. So, swear a bit, and go back to writing. In the end you will win out.

zerivabella · 03-21-2009, 11:35 AM

Wow Raydal,
that's a bummer. I am not that good a writer but I have my pics and graphics ripped off but it is difficult to tell where they are being used.

Allen Graves · 03-21-2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

You're absolutely right. It was, and still is, sold as PLR. On WF, in fact.

I have sent Raydal a PM with a link to the WSO.

Well isn't THAT great?! Pretty sad - that WSO should be immediately taken down - that is if Ray can prove it was plagiarized.

AL

neddag · 03-21-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Well isn't THAT great?! Pretty sad - that WSO should be immediately taken down - that is if Ray can prove it was plagiarized.

AL

This is very common unfortunately. I recently purchased a huge package of PLR here. I ran a quick check on about 25 of the articles and 10 of them were published at EZA.

Sad really. I don't think the seller knew this (giving the benefit of the doubt), but he simply repackaged all the PLR he had on his hard drive. He probably purchased it as PLR at one time as well. Who knows how far back it got started.

Ned

Dan C. Rinnert · 03-21-2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neddag

This is very common unfortunately. I recently purchased a huge package of PLR here. I ran a quick check on about 25 of the articles and 10 of them were published at EZA.

Sad really. I don't think the seller knew this (giving the benefit of the doubt), but he simply repackaged all the PLR he had on his hard drive. He probably purchased it as PLR at one time as well. Who knows how far back it got started.

I agree with you that the seller probably didn't do it intentionally, and probably got it in a pack that was sold to him as PLR.

This highlights one of the major problems of using PLR. It has been mentioned before, but the threads usually don't get many reads, unfortunately.

As a publisher, you are responsible for what you publish. With PLR, oftentimes, you really don't know the source of it. While, legally, the publisher bears the responsibility, in real world application, both the original author and the publisher are victims. The original author because his work is stolen and claimed by others as their own, and the publisher because they purchased an article they believed they had full rights to label as their own.

If you use PLR, it's best to buy PLR only from the original author, so that you have a greater assurance that what you are buying is really PLR. (Of course, that's not to say that someone couldn't steal articles and pass them off as PLR, but there you can at least track down the article to the original thief.) When PLR gets passed around and around, you really don't know where it came from. And, the liability will fall upon the publisher.

Also, if you buy PLR from the original author, instead of in packs that have gone round and round, you reduce the likelihood of an author one day coming across your site and saying, "Hey, you stole my article!" Which can be embarrassing and difficult to explain to your loyal readers when you have to take down the article or admit you really didn't write it...

raynman · 03-21-2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

p.s. This is why you should get a link in the body of your article along with a text version of the URI.

would you do this in all of your articles?

cballi · 03-21-2009, 12:33 PM

I have bought or rec'd for free a few PLR packs that clearly look to have come from an article directory (keywords, word count, summary). If you submit your content to an article directory, do they now own the article and free to sell it as PLR?

Sounds like this happened here. How does this work?

03-20-2009, 04:44 PM	#1
Raydal Marketing Strategist War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Punta Gorda, FL, USA. Posts: 3,249 Thanks: 150 Thanked 1,132 Times in 502 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I just submitted an article to EA which I wrote about 7 years ago. I had submitted this to an article directory. The article was rejected by EA because it was already on another site. So I did a check and found my article on a ton of site with no author resource box. Even popular marketers who should know better. Just do a search for "7 Secrets To Building Your Online Credibility" and you'll see what I mean. It's a waste of time for me to contact all these websites--so I really don't know what is the lesson here ... Phew! -Ray Edwards
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HQArticleWriting Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: HQArticleWriting.com Posts: 27 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! sorry to hear about that Ray. must be darn good content! Joshua's idea is good if the time is worth it about contacting the larger sites and getting credit (and traffic!) from the site. shoot'em an email, if not give a call.

03-20-2009, 05:11 PM	#10
Raydal Marketing Strategist War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Punta Gorda, FL, USA. Posts: 3,249 Thanks: 150 Thanked 1,132 Times in 502 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! It seems as though a lot of blogs are using it to promote Commission Blue Print. I've seen a few blogs who are using mt article then referring to CB at the end. Just look at this Google results: All lost links and credit for me. -Ray Edwards
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03-20-2009, 05:12 PM	#11
GeorgR. Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 5,952 Blog Entries: 15 Thanks: 72 Thanked 872 Times in 579 Posts Social Networking	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! well, sorry, this is the internet. With all the autoblogs out there (me having a bunch myself)...yes, they go out and get articles...and not ALWAYS is the resource box kept. EZA and all those directories are not without a reason called "article mills"...and yes, their main purpose is to distribute content which is used and re-used all over the web. If you submit an article to any such directory, you must also expect your articles to appear on many, many other sites. I myself am often amazed to see people complain about this. This is as absurd as publishing a RSS feed and wondering why the content appears on some other sites Add: this being said, i am not saying its is legal or ethical to reuse the articles without the resource boxes intact..is just how it is. SOME sites keep them, some just take the content and cut off links and resource boxes. Look at popular plugins like caffeinated content, how they work.
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03-20-2009, 05:17 PM	#12
Nick Brighton Money Grows On Trees... War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: In the trenches... Posts: 2,375 Thanks: 553 Thanked 527 Times in 235 Posts Contact Info	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Hi Ray, How did they get hold of the original? Do you mean you submitted it to a directory 7 years ago and now you're unable to resubmit to EZA? Either way, take it as a form of flattery...you know that plagiarists cannot keep up with the smart creators, and you're a smart creator. Let them have it, and secretly create a new killer article that somehow creates a juxtaposition against the original... ...play one off the other. "Why my article 7 Secrets was a lie..." "Why 7 ways to build online credibility article was missing this crucial truth..." "The real truth about building online credibility and why it takes more than 7..." Etc. Etc.
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03-20-2009, 05:34 PM	#16
jmidas HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 339 Thanks: 41 Thanked 49 Times in 39 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! It is unfortunate, but anyone who writes a lot and writes well is going to face this at some point. People are gonna grab things when it suits them. As crappy as it is, I would just chalk it up to a bad experience and move on before it you lose sleep over it or it takes away from your current productivity.

03-20-2009, 05:39 PM	#17
yesacpow Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Jamaica Posts: 975 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 61 Thanked 343 Times in 120 Posts Social Networking	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I have the same problem with a lot of my articles. Recently I was checking to see where my articles are ranked and to my surpise several blogs and websites had my articles without my resource boxex Awe well just gotta move on
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03-20-2009, 05:40 PM	#18
GeorgR. Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 5,952 Blog Entries: 15 Thanks: 72 Thanked 872 Times in 579 Posts Social Networking	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! articles go viral, its a GOOD thing. Some of them i found actually DO have links still in them..
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03-20-2009, 05:48 PM	#19
Raydal Marketing Strategist War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Punta Gorda, FL, USA. Posts: 3,249 Thanks: 150 Thanked 1,132 Times in 502 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I can 'understand' article scraping and auto-blogging and all that stuff. What I was surprised about was the number of 'respectable' sites where the owners had their name as the author of the article. These are not 'spam blogs' for adsense. These are no 'newbies', these are people who have been marketing for years online. I just thought they should know better. -Ray Edwards
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03-20-2009, 08:59 PM	#22
Bruce NewMedia www.OfflineAdvance.com War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005 Thanks: 1,272 Thanked 573 Times in 314 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! wow Ray, you're right! ... a bunch of folks are claiming authorship of your article. That is not good. Do you suppose you could have thwarted this if you had known about it years ago? I think the problem is you're too good a writer Ray. These fools all like to copy from the best :-) (I read it btw, it's a good article) ...anyway, the idea to write an article about, for instance, HOW 'ARTICLE CHEATERS' ARE RUINING LEGITIMATE AUTHORS is a good one. Thats a way to capitalize on this. It would seem to me every article directory would want to feature an article about that topic. _____ Bruce

03-20-2009, 09:35 PM	#26
Rus Sells CEO War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,364 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 474 Thanked 690 Times in 450 Posts Contact Info	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I know how you feel, back in 2005 I created a SWEET flier for my salesmen to use. It had such success that I put it on the front page of my web site in bullet form. 2 years later I got a wild hair and did the Google for the title phrase. I found 4 competitors who had copied it and other content from my site! I made some phone calls and intimidated a couple of them to remove my content and just last week I got word press to completely delete several blog post's after I showed them the archived version of my page from archive.org. At first word press told me that their content was not similar enough to remove it. I had to reply back with several links, content quotes and directions where to find it in the blog post's. Word Press mailed me back later that day and informed me that they deleted the content and contacted the creator of blog about it! Woot! Vindicated!

03-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#28
Daisuke Follow Me on Twitter Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 89 Thanks: 97 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! You only have 218 sites you'll have to complain to :P

03-21-2009, 03:35 AM	#30
Will Edwards www.whitedovebooks.co.uk War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 3,834 Blog Entries: 28 Thanks: 370 Thanked 722 Times in 297 Posts Social Networking	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Yes - it happens all the time. I have found other people copying my articles without credit and even publishing my newsletters as content on their sites. If your content is being picked up by RSS, see if you can get your links into your RSS Feed. If it's being copied by people, especially those who know better, they may have fallen foul of buying dubious PLR content. There was a guy here in the forum (no names etc) who sold a 'PLR' pack of articles which had clearly been written by other authors - some of the articles had resource boxes intact. Now, he said he had the rights to do that - i.e. to sell them as PLR. And, I am not saying he did anything wrong either, but it made me - personally - question the remaining content. So I immediately deleted it when my suspicions were aroused. Again, I have no gripes against this fellow. I am merely pointing out that - either by accident or design - some people may not fully understand the concept of PLR; or perhaps do not share the same concept. There is nothing - except morals and ethics - to stop unscrupulous people grabbing your stuff and marketing it as PLR. Perhaps something similar happened to your article in this case. It's a problem for all good writers - which we all know you are. Best wishes, Will
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03-21-2009, 05:17 AM	#32
Makabongwe Maseko Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mbabane, Swaziland. Posts: 65 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Hi Ray, What I want to know is that are you still getting traffic from that article you submitted 7 years ago. I sure you must have sites with your original bio. Thanks.

03-21-2009, 05:19 AM	#33
KentuckyJeff Warrior that Shot J.R. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indiana - USA Posts: 67 Thanks: 25 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I had the same thing happen, but not to that extent. I'm still pretty new at Internet Marketing and thought articles would be a great (free) way to start. I submitted several articles to EZA, and after a while I did some searching and found one of my articles published on a site. Which looked to be a good, professional looking site, I was actually excited at first, until I saw that it was published without the resource box. It was kind of a major let-down, but I guess there's always going to be some people that will do things 'their way.' One uplifting thing though, I was using a redirect on one of the links in each of those first articles, and I got my first Clickbank sale from one of them. So I looked at it as proof that it is worth writing articles. I guess you take the good with the bad and hope that there's more good! It just sucks that it's so easy to rip-off another guy's work. I would imagine at least one of your thieves is reading about him/herself in this thread. If they are - YOU SUCK!!
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03-21-2009, 05:31 AM	#35
visitsingapore Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 47 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Well..I read about this article when I did a google search, really a lot of similar links and contents are almost like 99% similar it not 100% the same. I am consider new in article writing. i am sorry to learn about Raydal's (Ray L. Edwards case), I saw one website acknowlede the author: Ray Edwards Article for freelancers: 7 Secrets To Building Your Online Credibility Is this the same person??

03-21-2009, 06:05 AM	#37
Ross Dalangin Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: http://QuickMinisiteBuilder.com Posts: 2,944 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 265 Thanked 168 Times in 119 Posts Social Networking	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Welcome to the club! It happens all the time. I think someone submitted it to article directories with oro without your approval before that is why many sites are using it now. Ross
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03-21-2009, 07:03 AM	#38
Mario Brown No B.S. - That's Me War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Beach, Miami Posts: 884 Thanks: 157 Thanked 799 Times in 121 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I also think that you should move on and focus on new articles. Happens all the time and it makes no sense to waste time & energy contemplating what to do against it because it will happen again. Affiliate Marketing isn't a game, it's all about money and therefore it's a Sharks World out there unfortunately. Some (lots) out there will do whatever they can to use cookiestuffing, steal your sale, steal your traffic from hub pages and squidoo lenses, steal your article and use dirtey scripts and what not. That's just another reason why I completely switched to product creation. Shall others fight this war to rank higher and make more sales. Now at least they are pushing my product and I get the sale, doesn't matter which affiliate won the fight. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see that everybody out there is nice and playing fair game - but the truth is that this is one of the most competitive markets out there and and it's all about 'eat or get eaten' IMO. 2 cents - mario
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03-21-2009, 07:48 AM	#40
gabibeowulf Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 667 Thanks: 152 Thanked 126 Times in 69 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Well ... This is really a good thing ) .. I don't know why you're complaining about it .. You now have the opportunity to contact all the article websites and tell them to post your resource box as you're the original writer and can prove so or be prepared for legal action Either way, you're still wining something

03-21-2009, 07:53 AM	#41
rapidscc Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sunny Philippines Posts: 1,682 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 462 Thanked 213 Times in 164 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Hi Ray, Well one thing's sure. You are one good writer. Don't cry over spilled milk. It doesn't do any good. Just build, build, build....These things happen to the best of us... :-) Omar
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03-21-2009, 07:59 AM	#42
ways2earn Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hyderabad, INDIA Posts: 22 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Ray, this sounds ridiculous all your hardwork's undone by these people. There should be some way to stop these people who just steel the credibility and yet they never confess atleast who the original author was.

03-21-2009, 11:04 AM	#43
dave147 Platinum Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: AU Posts: 2,729 Thanks: 475 Thanked 332 Times in 270 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I had one of my articles posted on a blog a couple of months ago without my bio ref and ezineartricles wouldn't publish it because it was elsewhere. (should have posted it there first) I made a comment on the blog to remove it or add my bio. Must go back and see did that make a difference.
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03-21-2009, 11:17 AM	#44
cmbwealth HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 128 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 28 Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Unfortunately plagerism has been going on for a lot longer than any of us. So, swear a bit, and go back to writing. In the end you will win out.
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03-21-2009, 11:35 AM	#45
zerivabella Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: London Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! Wow Raydal, that's a bummer. I am not that good a writer but I have my pics and graphics ripped off but it is difficult to tell where they are being used.
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03-21-2009, 12:33 PM	#50
cballi Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 99 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: My Most Stolen Article --This is RIDICULOUS!! I have bought or rec'd for free a few PLR packs that clearly look to have come from an article directory (keywords, word count, summary). If you submit your content to an article directory, do they now own the article and free to sell it as PLR? Sounds like this happened here. How does this work?
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