Whats up with Clicksure?

by staxx
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I have noticed quite a few new products out there that I consider promoting and I see that they are using Clicksure. Now I haven't promoted any Clicksure product as of yet and I'm a bit hesitant to do so. I have seen quite a few people saying they are having trouble both on the publisher and affiliate end.

My question is this... Why are people putting their products up on this network when there are other, more established networks already in place?

I'm only asking a question here I'm not trying to berate Clicksure, as I have said I have not used them, but from whats being said I don't understand why someone here in the US would put a product up on a network based overseas that uses payment processing from yet another country. To me it sounds risky. So my real question is what is the benefit that outweighs the risk here?
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  • Profile picture of the author Silentkiller1
    It is free to put a product there,maybe that is the reason....
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    Originally Posted by staxx View Post

    I have noticed quite a few new products out there that I consider promoting and I see that they are using Clicksure. Now I haven't promoted any Clicksure product as of yet and I'm a bit hesitant to do so. I have seen quite a few people saying they are having trouble both on the publisher and affiliate end.

    My question is this... Why are people putting their products up on this network when there are other, more established networks already in place?

    I'm only asking a question here I'm not trying to berate Clicksure, as I have said I have not used them, but from whats being said I don't understand why someone here in the US would put a product up on a network based overseas that uses payment processing from yet another country. To me it sounds risky. So my real question is what is the benefit that outweighs the risk here?
    They are new, and just like all new companies there are going to be growing pains... They probably aren't going to rip you off if that's what you're worried about.

    Also I'm assuming you are talking about IM products you want to promote, right?

    They are "slightly" more lenient about the approval of those types of products that places like clickbank put the hammer down on - like "blind" pitches.
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    • Profile picture of the author staxx
      Thanks guys, have either of you used them ?
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      • Profile picture of the author mbacak
        Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

        They are "slightly" more lenient about the approval of those types of products that places like clickbank put the hammer down on - like "blind" pitches.
        It seems that way. However, I've heard they are getting hard now too.

        Originally Posted by staxx View Post

        have either of you used them ?
        I have been an affiliate on both platforms. I totally understand the payout structure for Clickbank... but the payout structure for Clicksure makes me think I need to be more of a rocket scientist to figure it out.... still scratching my head how the money is released.
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        • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
          Originally Posted by mbacak View Post



          I have been an affiliate on both platforms. I totally understand the payout structure for Clickbank... but the payout structure for Clicksure makes me think I need to be more of a rocket scientist to figure it out.... still scratching my head how the money is released.
          Matt " super launch" Bacak scratches head over Clicksure affiliate payout procedure. That must be a doozy of a document as I am almost positive affiliate marketing has crossed your mind at least once :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author mbacak
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      They are new, and just like all new companies there are going to be growing pains... They probably aren't going to rip you off if that's what you're worried about.
      Looks like they are having growing pains or something cause... rumor has it ...

      Clicksure site has been down pretty much all morning so the aff link is not redirecting people to people's sales sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author JabMonkey
    Clicksure sounds unsure and the clicks likely suffer from insecurity and need a shrink. I've never heard of Clicksure and I'm all over the place, so you must be hanging out in different venues than I am. But I would say forget about Clicksure.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbacak
      Originally Posted by JabMonkey View Post

      Clicksure sounds unsure and the clicks likely suffer from insecurity and need a shrink. I've never heard of Clicksure and I'm all over the place, so you must be hanging out in different venues than I am. But I would say forget about Clicksure.
      Now that your aware... you'll see it a lot more because whether we like it or not it's getting more widely used now.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaghananet
    Clicksure is pretty small and it might just come and go. I wouldn't really trust clicksure because they can just disappear one day, haven't got much of a reputation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nubitol
    If I'm not mistaken, the Morrison's brothers launched their products through Clicksure and so did Keci with her Pinterest product. The funny thing is, all of those products have similar membership layout and similar so-called AAA bonus package (about marketing with G+, YT, FB and Twitter). Perhaps Keci is yet another model used by those people...lol

    Anyway, the good thing about Clicksure (for buyers), is that they won't charge your CC until 5-days of your purchase date to make sure that you're satisfied with the products. During the first 5-days, you can cancel the purchase (with valid reason) and there will be no charge whatsoever in your CC.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbacak
      Originally Posted by Nubitol View Post

      If I'm not mistaken, the Morrison's brothers launched their products through Clicksure and so did Keci with her Pinterest product.
      I think Morrison himself originally launched at CB then moved to Clicksure.
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      • Profile picture of the author filthypunk
        Originally Posted by mbacak View Post

        I think Morrison himself originally launched at CB then moved to Clicksure.
        Matt, is it true that US credit cards often get declined with ClickSure? If so, how often?
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        • Profile picture of the author mortyfil
          I bought a product from Clicksure. Access to my VISA card was blocked. I called my bank and they called VISA to approve the purchase. My bank says I am not liable for any funds drained from my account. I wish they would use PAYPAL.... I am not keen on using the services until I see more security. ... they are located off shore.....
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          • Profile picture of the author filthypunk
            Originally Posted by mortyfil View Post

            I bought a product from Clicksure. Access to my VISA card was blocked. I called my bank and they called VISA to approve the purchase. My bank says I am not liable for any funds drained from my account. I wish they would use PAYPAL.... I am not keen on using the services until I see more security. ... they are located off shore.....
            Their card processor's offshore location in China is the very reason the US cards often get blocked with them.

            I'm very unsure about ClickSure
            But we have to do our launch for sure
            ClickBank has screwed us so we're not sure
            Whether we'll sure launch on ClickSure

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by staxx View Post

    My question is this... Why are people putting their products up on this network when there are other, more established networks already in place?
    I think it's because other, more established networks are all being forced to tighten up in response to the rapidly changing regulatory and legal climate, and the demands made on them by their upline suppliers (financial institutions).

    PayPal, ClickBank, 2Checkout, Plimus, and some others are commonly declining products and sales pages they would have accepted a year ago. Maybe even 6 months ago.

    Especially e-books to do with "making money online". But IM/MMO products in general, to some extent (I bet you're talking mostly about those, aren't you?).

    And, predictably enough, people tend to blame PayPal, ClickBank, 2Checkout and Plimus for that, completely missing the broader picture of what's going on in the industry.

    It had to happen.

    The survival/security of some of these products/sales pages elsewhere may be open to question, soon enough, too.

    Originally Posted by staxx View Post

    To me it sounds risky. So my real question is what is the benefit that outweighs the risk here?
    I think it's just "easier acceptance" and "less regulation", for the most part. My guess is that a high proportion of the products you're asking about have been declined elsewhere, before being listed with Clicksure.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I think it's because other, more established networks are all being forced to tighten up in response to the rapidly changing regulatory and legal climate, and the demands made on them by their upline suppliers (financial institutions).....
      I think it's just "easier acceptance" and "less regulation", for the most part. My guess is that a high proportion of the products you're asking about have been declined elsewhere, before being listed with Clicksure.
      That's my guess as well. I'll predict as Clicksure is forced to tighten it's acceptance procedure, it will start to fall out of favor with product sellers, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author ron34689
    I just found out about click sure not too long ago and also just got my application approved a day or two ago. I have not heard of click sure up until recently but I did talk with several people from a few different groups I am involved with.

    They tell me that they have been using click sure for the last two years or longer. I trust them because these people have no reason to lie about this to me.

    I have no experience with click sure, but I am about to give them a try on a new site before the end of this year. Will see how that goes soon,I will put it up by the first of next month.
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  • Profile picture of the author Donimo
    In my opinion, as an affiliate there is nothing terribly wrong with ClickSure, however it does have their flaws - for both affiliates, and customers.

    Firstly, they dont accept PayPal, only credit/debit card. This not only makes it more difficult for customers, it ultimately leads to much less sales (from what I've read, studies say around 20-40% less sales), ultimately leading to you making less money.

    Also, they dont have as much of a reputation to customers as what ClickBank has. This may lead to people not buying using their services due to them not trusting them. Ultimately leading to less sales.

    So why does vendors use ClickSure rather than ClickBank? Well, I can't speak for all the vendors obviously, but from what I can see, it's because like on ClickBank, if your product has a high refund rate, and is a pretty low quality product, ClickBank take your product down. This can cause serious problems, especially on big product launches ect. vendors simply don't want to risk it. It's much less likely that your product will get taken down from ClickSure as their policies are not as strict as ClickBank.

    You will find that IF a product is in fact an extremely good product, it wont be on ClickSure - it will be on ClickBank instead. That's just my 2 cents...
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  • Profile picture of the author swaggy2011
    Yeah I had the same thing with my bank wont honour Clicksure any more too, as if and when you do need to get a refund for any reasom the just take so long its not funny and because its offshore your banks dont want to really be bothered chasing them.
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