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Old 03-21-2009, 11:35 PM   #1
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Default Newbie makes $13,000 this month

I just went to an IM seminar in Auckland. A few big names there but I got talking to a few locals in the crowd.

So this young dude (30) tells me he started in november and made $13,000 this month.
He is with CarbonCopyPro - I had never heard of it before.

He's gone from nothing in november to 7K last month and 13K this month.

They in turn are promoting an expensive program called wealth masters international.

I'm gunna network with this dude.

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Old 03-21-2009, 11:39 PM   #2
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Its doable. I know some newbie who earn almost 6 figure in just 5 months.

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Old 03-21-2009, 11:40 PM   #3
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What the hell is it...and how do i sell it!?!??!

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Old 03-21-2009, 11:42 PM   #4
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I just went to an IM seminar in Auckland. A few big names there but I got talking to a few locals in the crowd.

So this young dude (30) tells me he started in november and made $13,000 this month.
He is with CarbonCopyPro - I had never heard of it before.

He's gone from nothing in november to 7K last month and 13K this month.

They in turn are promoting an expensive program called wealth masters international.

I'm gunna network with this dude.
lol -- interesting definition of young i was thinking 13-14 years old would be 'young'
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Old 03-21-2009, 11:44 PM   #5
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It is definitely possible. Especially if he is selling a high priced item. It would be much better that trying to sell $47 ebooks.

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Old 03-21-2009, 11:53 PM   #6
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Default Re: Newbie makes $13,000 this month

Don't think if it is legit?
Its selling high ticket stuff to others and make them sell to others again?
Kinda MLM.
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Old 03-21-2009, 11:59 PM   #7
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Even Warren Buffet encourages people to start their entrepreneurship journey at a tender young age..
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:00 AM   #8
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It's doable.

Start by picking a niche, a hot Clickbank niche.
It took me about 12 months to reach 5 figures.

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I think Carbon Copy Pro is pretty similar to the Reverse Funnel System, where there's an application fee and then they let you know it's another $3000 to get the full system. People do make money with it though, but it's definitely not for everyone.

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Old 03-22-2009, 12:20 AM   #10
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Default Re: Newbie makes $13,000 this month

its MLM of some sort.

i did a google for Carbon Copy Pro and the word Scam....

try it.

their website copy is phenomenal though! gotta grant them that!

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Old 03-22-2009, 12:54 AM   #11
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I'd never heard of it before today

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Old 03-22-2009, 01:59 AM   #12
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Default Re: Newbie makes $13,000 this month

It's bigger-ticket direct sales. You'll be putting at least
a couple grand into before pulling anything out. There
are monthly fees which add up and it takes some skill
to market this sort of thing effectively.

Basically, if you don't know how to advertise you will
lose money with direct sales programs.

I've made "silly money" with these things myself
(not CCP, but similar things) and discovered a lot
of flaws in the approach mostly taught for marketing
them... leads to a high rate of failure among
distributors. It's a competitive game. Winnable,
but competitive. I was frustrated that I could
sell the things and the people I brought in could
not. I believe the use of replicated sites equals
higher-cost to promote the business for
distributors. There are several reasons. It's
kind of an involved discussion... but basically the
solution is to have your own game and be willing
and able to speak with prospects on the phone.
Other methods may seem easier but the costs
are usually higher to profit and many affiliates
lose their shirts trying to work the margins, wondering
why their marketing isn't making money and often
plunging into deep debt. I've had people in many
different programs who admired my marketing call me
in tears about how much money they lost running
stupid ads driving traffic to ineffective websites.

As I said - the industry is competitive and we can
assume the 80/20 rule applies. 80% or more lose
money due to incompence or innaction. 20% take
all the profits.

I'm currently of the opinion that the front-end required
purchase is a marketing error that discourages
many worthy prospects, so at the very least if you
were to use the CCP marketing system I would advise
you to just run some other lead-generation advertising
that makes no demands for teh front-end product
purchase, call the people who answer, and talk to
them as if it's a normal business conversation.

The front-end "funded proposal" does make distributors
feel they can earn money even if nobody buys the main
program, but when you look at the monthly fees for
some of these things you'll realize that you have to
sell several of the ebooks monthly to break-even on
the fees alone. That doesn't count adwords or other
paid advertising.

So... basically count on having a fair bit of money
go out before you turn a profit. Commitment usually
triumphs however. I'm not of the opinion any more,
from experience, that programs that call your prospects
for you are a good idea - and that is a key selling feature
of some of them out there. Unfortunately that approach
encourages the non-development of prospecting and
closing skill among participants.

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Old 03-22-2009, 03:07 AM   #13
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It's doable.

Start by picking a niche, a hot Clickbank niche.
It took me about 12 months to reach 5 figures.

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What do you do to reach 5 figures per month? affiliate marketing/ own product? a combination?
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Old 05-14-2009, 12:08 AM   #14
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5 figures are very reachable, first thing is your set of mind. You got to threat online biz as real biz. I had hours with 5 figures, on $59.97 item not high ticket. (not in a while thoug :-(

doing market research is most important in my eyes, finding the right niche at the right moment - I test few things at the time as affl and if there is money than consider creating own product and automate it. than move on.
At the same time having too much going on can be a disaster (like in my case :-( )
never loose the focus.

I saw carbon copy and it is not for everyone, there is great amount of time and money needed to start making it back but if done correctly it is worth it. Marketing such items is also more difficult.

If I had had a "exclusive" bullet proof "secret to make ton of money - why would I sell it? Because I am a "good guy" and want to teach others the secret? NO , if that were the case why not teach ppl for free or donate 100% to charity ?

just my two cents

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Old 05-14-2009, 07:05 AM   #15
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Default Re: Newbie makes $13,000 this month

CCP is a direct sales program with all of the followups automated. All you do is pay the money and then advertise and get people on the list.

The sales pages and videos are of high quality.

Anyone can do the same thing with just about any product but you must spend some time setting up your followup emails and your pages.

The "SALES PROCESS" is the key. It's long and detailed. They are selling a high ticket item and without sales, no one makes any money.

I am in the process of setting up a similar system for a $197 product. The setup itself will take me at least the next 2 months. But I figure if I put in the time and tweak everything just right and then test the sales process, it'll show me which improvements need to be made - i.e. - which steps in the sales process need to be tweaked to get the highest continuation percentage.

Then I'll roll it out Jeff Walker style and see what happens. if I can just sell a few thousand (dream dream dream), I'll be a very happy camper.

With higher ticket items, The key is to do ALL of the work BEFORE putting it out there.

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I'll never knock specific programs, but maybe you should ask him how much money he spent to make $13,000. I bet it's somewhere around $9-10k, and possibly as high as $15k and he makes his money on the backend (his downline).

Here's the thing with MLM and Network Marketing: You're selling to people who are absolutely desperate, sometimes taking their last dollar or money they don't even have, so they can have a shot at a dream that only 1-2% achieve.

Is it possible to make lots of money through MLM/Netork Marketing? Absolutely. But you have to learn how to sell to people, and that only comes from experience.

Can you make it in a few months? Absolutely. But you either have to have a big list or lots of money going into it.

It's just like anything else... if you stick to it, chances are you'll be successful. Just be careful... that's a cutthroat industry. It has to be: you're competing with your own downline!
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Paul what exactly did you do to make 5 figures in 12 months?
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:01 AM   #18
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Is "Carbon Copy Pro" and " Carbon Copy Cash" the same thing?
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