FTC Goes After Affiliate / CPA Marketers

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After taking down Copeac the FTC just went after another affiliate / CPA network ads4dough. Story here:

FTC Charges Second "Affiliate Network" of Internet Advertisers with Deceiving Consumers by Using Fake News Sites to Market **** Berry Weight-Loss Products and Colon Cleansers

In short: affiliates sign up and commit fraud by making false claims and using fake news sites. Affiliate disclosures are not made, and affiliates do not disclose merchant practices such as recurring billing.

Instead of pursuing affiliates 1 by 1 and trying to play Whac-a-Mole, the FTC goes after the entire affiliate network and accuses it of failing to monitor affiliate activities and pre-approving their advertising.

Typically, IMHO, an affiliate network is not responsible for monitoring and pre-approving the advertising of affiliates who are independent contractors. But, if you have been reading my posts the last few years you know this is the direction the FTC is trying to force, and the FTC knows it has massive leverage. Even Google has paid out millions.

So what does this all mean?

- Affiliate / CPA networks will demand more identifying information before approving affiliates.

- It will become harder to be approved as an affiliate.

- Affiliate promotions and creative advertising become more limited. Sometimes pre-approval may be required.

- Faster terminations for any rule violation, even minor mistakes.

- Fewer affiliate opportunities for affiliates from certain countries.

- Increased network administrative costs mean reduced affiliate payments.

At the end of the day, the affiliate network will not want to jeopardize its business and relationship with merchants because of affiliates.

Ironically, here is a short interview from 4 years ago by Shoemoney with the owner of ads4dough talking about massive fraud problems with affiliates and network attempts to combat the problem.

Ads4dough - BlackHat SEO To Affiliate Network CEO - Interview With Ads4dough Owner Jason Akatiff - ShoeMoney Internet Marketing Blog

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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    It makes sense. They want to get the big fish and not just the guppies. Then the network has to pay more attention to the quality of its affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author jonj31070
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    After taking down Copeac the FTC just went after another affiliate / CPA network ads4dough. Story here:

    FTC Charges Second "Affiliate Network" of Internet Advertisers with Deceiving Consumers by Using Fake News Sites to Market **** Berry Weight-Loss Products and Colon Cleansers

    In short: affiliates sign up and commit fraud by making false claims and using fake news sites. Affiliate disclosures are not made, and affiliates do not disclose merchant practices such as recurring billing.

    Instead of pursuing affiliates 1 by 1 and trying to play Whac-a-Mole, the FTC goes after the entire affiliate network and accuses it of failing to monitor affiliate activities and pre-approving their advertising.

    Typically, IMHO, an affiliate network is not responsible for monitoring and pre-approving the advertising of affiliates who are independent contractors. But, if you have been reading my posts the last few years you know this is the direction the FTC is trying to force, and the FTC knows it has massive leverage. Even Google has paid out millions.

    So what does this all mean?

    - Affiliate / CPA networks will demand more identifying information before approving affiliates.

    - It will become harder to be approved as an affiliate.

    - Affiliate promotions and creative advertising become more limited. Sometimes pre-approval may be required.

    - Faster terminations for any rule violation, even minor mistakes.

    - Fewer affiliate opportunities for affiliates from certain countries.

    - Increased network administrative costs mean reduced affiliate payments.

    At the end of the day, the affiliate network will not want to jeopardize its business and relationship with merchants because of affiliates.

    Ironically, here is a short interview from 4 years ago by Shoemoney with the owner of ads4dough talking about massive fraud problems with affiliates and network attempts to combat the problem.

    Ads4dough - BlackHat SEO To Affiliate Network CEO - Interview With Ads4dough Owner Jason Akatiff - ShoeMoney Internet Marketing Blog

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    Thank you for the info. I always put a disclosure page on my sites to let everyone know that I am an affiliate for the product. Plus I keep the hype to a minimum. I agree that it is going to be harder for affiliates to get approved in the future. If people would advertise honestly, then these problems wouldn't exist.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Fake news sites were worth silly money like 5 years ago.

    I stress, SILLY money.

    (I knew people pulling in ungodly quantities of money with fake news sites)

    Not sure how to comment on this, can it really be illegal if you put a large disclaimer at the top "THIS IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT"?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
    Here are some implementations that should be implemented and enforced on popular and familiar affiliate networking sites we are very familiar with ... IMHO

    It would surely improve affiliate quality and there promotion of our products.

    - It should become harder to be approved as an affiliate.

    - Product Creators/Sellers should demand more identifying information before approving affiliates.

    - Product Creators/Sellers should demand affiliates purchase product first before approving and accepting affiliates. (purchase does not guarantee approval)
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Steve Wells View Post

      (purchase does not guarantee approval)
      That'll end well. "Product vendor XYZ scammed me out of my money by denying me as an affiliate!"

      You were doing OK before that though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
        Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

        That'll end well. "Product vendor XYZ scammed me out of my money by denying me as an affiliate!"

        You were doing OK before that though.
        Lol..... Just that part would cause many not to want to promote for sure who are not serious affiliates.

        I have had so many people request to be an affiliate, then once approved they do nothing or drive crap traffic, which lowers the stats on the product. Essentially causing others not to want to promote.

        I would rather have and small handful of above average to great affiliates than an army of average crappy affiliates doing nothing or doing things shady in their promoting.

        I know of MANY high end products which require you to actually own the product first, before you can even apply to be an affiliate.

        Once you purchase your not guaranteed to be accepted as an affiliate, it's up to them.

        These types of products can bring in checks sometimes upwards to $40,000 dollars profit for the affiliate. (not per year )

        These products are high quality, and they do their best to protect the representation of their product.

        I won't mention names of them, don't won't the competition.

        It would work on a smaller scale if the majority did it. Because the affiliates would have no choice, they would have to accept the terms and conditions of the vendors, in order to have a piece of the pie.

        The great thing about this type of system is that you get all the cheapo's out of the way, the ones, that are just spamming the crap out of the affiliate links. Or they are not willing to promote the product in a way that reflects the companies values.

        Usually these type of people are not willing to buy a product that cost upwards of $500.00 in order to become an affiliate. So, you weed them out easily. Even if they do, they (the company/product owner) have the right to monitor where your promoting because they ask you to tell them where and how you will do it, then they monitor your promotions.

        These companies also will ban you as an affiliate if you do things that are unethical or illegal or if you falsely represent their product.

        I know this type of model may not be the best for the WF type of mentality, but I assure you it would definitely improve the quality of affiliates.

        As a product creator, I welcome anything that increases honesty, integrity, quality of those who want to represent and promote my products, etc.... on and on...

        I am a firm believer in do something right, do it honestly, don't cut corners or make shady exceptions for the all mighty dollar.

        I enjoy making money, but do not want to break my moral values in order to do it, and do not want people who have no morals or values promoting for me, even if I would make money from it....
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  • Profile picture of the author bassem
    yes true the FTC is trying to kill all activities online by controling the teh peyment processors TOS and the affiliates network. this is the right time to put the eggs in differents baskets
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    • Profile picture of the author Weblover50
      Originally Posted by bassem View Post

      yes true the FTC is trying to kill all activities online by controling the teh peyment processors TOS and the affiliates network. this is the right time to put the eggs in differents baskets
      Some regulation is not a bad thing to happen, at least with a long term view. When some affiliates use black hat methods / scam / spam / cookie stuffing to sell products, they are also denying opportunity for others or affecting the profitability of the merchant.

      You right spot on about putting eggs in different basket, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    I better hurry up and signup for every affiliate site I can find before..... affiliate Armageddon

    -plays creepy doom music-
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  • Profile picture of the author Green Moon
    Most of the affiliate programs would not have the resources to commit fraud on any grand scale, or even line up enough affiliates, without the resources (and complacency) of the CPA networks. While I hate to see the FTC go after the providers of the infrastructure, the CPA networks should be keeping their own houses clean. The scams and frauds on the internet hurt every honest internet marketer.
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  • Going about making money the wrong way never lasts. Sure you can make it today, but it always ends at some point...and it comes at the worst time.

    The best way is to just always operate in honesty and you'll never have to worry about it being taken away from you. No deception is just the way to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author 0oo0
    Dan Kennedy says in his seminar in a box training

    " If something is working well, like REALLY well, it's probably illegal."
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      Not sure how to comment on this, can it really be illegal if you put a large disclaimer at the top "THIS IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT"?
      Putting the large disclaimer clears up the relationship somewhat, but does nothing about false claims and hidden terms.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    I'm amazed at how many people aren't lighting this thread up...

    Someone can post a stupid topic about how they got 100 visitors per day to their hot chick blog from pinterest and it would be on fire.

    Yet when someone posts something that can have a real effect on your business it goes ignored because it doesn't have a hyped up headline.

    It's sad.

    I've seen people post kick ass case studied and other information like in this one (that are truly helpful) that get 10 - 15 responses. But then someone says "how can I make money fast?" It blows up...

    It shows the "mass mindset" of many visitors to this forum... and these are usually the same people that wonder why they're poor and not making any money.

    [Rant over] - I just really wanted to bump this thread because I think it's important.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      I'm amazed at how many people aren't lighting this thread up...

      Someone can post a stupid topic about how they got 100 visitors per day to their hot chick blog from pinterest and it would be on fire.

      Yet when someone posts something that can have a real effect on your business it goes ignored because it doesn't have a hyped up headline.

      It's sad.

      I've seen people post kick ass case studied and other information like in this one (that are truly helpful) that get 10 - 15 responses. But then someone says "how can I make money fast?" It blows up...

      It shows the "mass mindset" of many visitors to this forum... and these are usually the same people that wonder why they're poor and not making any money.

      [Rant over] - I just really wanted to bump this thread because I think it's important.
      My advice to you is.. Take advantage of your knowledge
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      I'm amazed at how many people aren't lighting this thread up...

      Someone can post a stupid topic about how they got 100 visitors per day to their hot chick blog from pinterest and it would be on fire.

      Yet when someone posts something that can have a real effect on your business it goes ignored because it doesn't have a hyped up headline.

      It's sad.
      I find the thread interesting, but I'm not an affiliate marketer with the exception of a rare promo ad for a product created by someone I know. I don't use CPA ads even though I'm an affiliate for a lot of them, so this crackdown doesn't affect everyone, and I personally think the death of those fake news sites, misleading advertising, and forced continuity programs is great.
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      • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        I find the thread interesting, but I'm not an affiliate marketer with the exception of a rare promo ad for a product created by someone I know. I don't use CPA ads even though I'm an affiliate for a lot of them, so this crackdown doesn't affect everyone, and I personally think the death of those fake news sites, misleading advertising, and forced continuity programs is great.
        Same here. Fake news sites rip off logos and brand names constantly. Honestly, I'm surprised they have been getting away with it for this long.
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  • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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    In short: affiliates sign up and commit fraud by making false claims and using fake news sites
    Now if only someone would crack down on "real" news sites making fake news reports, shaping public opinion, influencing elections with BS, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Looks like Dr Oz is making some progress lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Hooper-Kelly
        Product Creators/Sellers should demand affiliates purchase product first before approving and accepting affiliates. (purchase does not guarantee approval)
        If the affiliate purchases the product, it not only removes the tire-kickers, it also makes the affiliate more successful.

        As a successful affiliate, I believe my success largely springs from the fact I always purchase the product, even when it's not a requirement to join the program.

        That means I can speak with greater authority about the product (instead of just scraping snippets from the vendor's sales page, like all my rival affiliates).

        It also means I can make a video walkthrough of the product, which increases my sales even more.

        Warmest regards,

        Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author hwn808
    Hey, does anyone know if we need to put a disclaimer/disclosure in our ads if we do affiliate marketing?
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